Victim Narcissist Lures Sons to Fiery Death with Model Train Set | Darren Sykes Case Analysis

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Komentáře • 602

  • @Jimschrbr
    @Jimschrbr Před 28 dny +333

    Apparently her first instincts about this guy were right all along. Always trust your gut, no matter how many flowers someone sends you.

    • @deanpd3402
      @deanpd3402 Před 28 dny +18

      Uneducated empaths are often taken in by the charm of narcs. Sadly, people often only find out the very hard way.

    • @polarvortex3294
      @polarvortex3294 Před 28 dny +11

      ​@@cherieodell9048 I'd say that an added danger of gifts from narcs is that, while they can be charming and truly generous at times, when their thoughts turn dark they review in their minds all the gifts they've given & they feel that you really owe them. I mean, in their minds just being around them is an honor, a gift in it's own way. And of course they minimize all the things you've done, and all the pain they've caused. They actually feel there's been an imbalance in the relationship -- that they've been cheated! And this is true whether you asked for the gifts or not.
      This feeling that you owe them also contributes to their post-breakup rage. And if you start turning down their gifts while still around them, they feel insulted and angry too. You really can't win with them... It's so much better to dodge them early before getting mixed up with them!

    • @Calligraphybooster
      @Calligraphybooster Před 27 dny +6

      @@polarvortex3294
      This is spot on.
      This is btw also the way narcissistic parents remind their children of ‘everything they have done for them’.

    • @RobertEsparza-zc2ou
      @RobertEsparza-zc2ou Před 27 dny

    • @meowmirrr
      @meowmirrr Před 27 dny +8

      @@deanpd3402 Empaths are not a real thing. Empaths are actually codependents who had a traumatic childhood of always having to be hyperaware of their caregivers' emotions. Empaths need healing as much as eveyrone else. It is not a good thing to be.

  • @larsattack
    @larsattack Před 28 dny +591

    Take care of yourself dr grande. These stories are hard to listen to. I can’t imagine deep diving into all of them.

    • @Rebecca-hc5ju
      @Rebecca-hc5ju Před 28 dny +19

      Truth!

    • @rickyspanish6261
      @rickyspanish6261 Před 28 dny +14

      Yes, for real. No joke

    • @sage1682
      @sage1682 Před 28 dny +34

      Well diving into them makes him thousands of dollars, I'd watch cartel videos for free let alone for money😂😂

    • @Average_Internet_DMC_420
      @Average_Internet_DMC_420 Před 28 dny +26

      Dr Grande has probably been studying human pathology for most of his life so I'm sure he just sees these interesting stories as business/work tasks

    • @bloodlove93
      @bloodlove93 Před 28 dny +4

      i can, but I'm a nihilist who scores over halfway on the psychopath test, I've long gazed dispassionately upon this world and watched it without emotional ties,so I'm fine with far worse than this, I've seen the worst this world has to offer,and i applauded it's absurdity and laughed at the ludicrousnesss of society, i see all as ephemeral, vapid,and meaningless lest we give it meaning,i refuse to give value to what doesn't give me value.
      I'll do now as i have for decades, watch and listen, as the world bleeds,burns,and breaks,I'll observe, so dance,die,live, struggle, succeed, suffer...do as you will, i shall do the same in turn.
      I'll watch and remember it all,this brilliant flash of life, before if vanishes I'll accept it all, the love,the hate,the murder,the tragedy, everything life has...I'll take it for myself, not because i deserve it,not because others don't... just because i can and i decided i want to, i want to view everything and decide what i see as worth my time and effort, regardless of others opinions against me, i will live life as naught but a path unto death.
      why say this? why not? I'm bored,not like it matters, words are meaningless more often than not, am i even serious or just spinning a story? answer: it doesn't matter because eventually it can't so therefore why try to force it, holding on tighter just makes it hurt more when it's torn away, in such a fragile and delicate world, why hold on so desperately to what breaks so easily.

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal Před 28 dny +409

    What kind of utterly soulless monster do you have to be, to kill your children to spite your ex?

    • @kyleboulanger170
      @kyleboulanger170 Před 28 dny

      There was a woman named Debra Green who murdered 2 of her 3 children to spite her cheating husband Michael Farrar.

    • @Grawlix_Jungle
      @Grawlix_Jungle Před 28 dny +23

      Many such cases. John Battaglia, famously. Joshua Powell. Recently, Chad Doerman

    • @jasonnikolic
      @jasonnikolic Před 28 dny +25

      Last time it was a mother who did this and all the comments were blaming mental illness. Funny how that's not the case for men.

    • @wrosebrock
      @wrosebrock Před 28 dny +1

      ​@@summrflowers7253 bruh every day ? Lol

    • @littlewingmyoho
      @littlewingmyoho Před 28 dny +10

      ​@@jasonnikolicbut it is mosty mental illness in both and we need more research 😢

  • @laynecurry7960
    @laynecurry7960 Před 28 dny +345

    Darren was dangerous from the beginning, and Claire, Paul and Jack deserved so much better. Tricking those boys to an agonizing death by luring them with a fun gift like a train set is sadistic.

    • @julien3238
      @julien3238 Před 28 dny +19

      So true. The fact that he sent her flowers for three weeks when he was rejected is VERY telling of what kind of man he was

    • @bluejay9890
      @bluejay9890 Před 27 dny +11

      @@julien3238 Yes. I have a friend who fell for a man who courted her very aggressivly and she interpreted his behavior as very romantic. A few months into their courtship she realized he was very controlling and abusive when he didn't get his way. Fortunately she was able to get away from him, but it wasn't easy. Some women are just so flattered by all the attention they fail to see it as a red flag.

    • @BirdyMum
      @BirdyMum Před 27 dny +7

      ​@bluejay9890 it's classic Lovebombing, thankfully people are more aware of the tactic now. My first husband was a very dangerous narcissist who started off as Prince charming and became my worst nightmare. People don't expect an abuser to start off as overwhelmingly loving and attentive.

    • @paulaunger3061
      @paulaunger3061 Před 27 dny +1

      Problem is, there's almost nothing she could have done about it. He wouldn't take no for an answer - and back then, the convention was that you should get married, that men behaving like this was romance - and there was absolutely nobody she could have gone to make him stop. I can see how she eventually got worn down. Things aren't perfect now, but they're a lot better than they were.

    • @ellyjett
      @ellyjett Před 15 dny

      Well, she could have still kept saying no, and for goodness sake not marry the man. Instead he broke her down, and even wanting to leave wouldn’t because thinking another baby will surly fix an abusive man right? Thousands of red flags but she married and had kids by him than keep rejecting. And sure, maybe he would’ve hurt her for continuing to reject, that’s always the gamble women take by saying no, but then there’d probably wouldn’t be two dead kids at the end of this story.
      I just wish more women were taught the abuse cycle, and what to watch for, and there’s resources and help out there to break out of it. Praying and hoping your man will change won’t stop him from using you as a punching bag, or killing your pets/kids/family/yourself.

  • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
    @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Před 28 dny +231

    As a mother who lost her children, 2 sons (leukemia, auto crash), I'm sickened. Losing a child is the most god-awful pain imaginable. Poor Mom didn't know he'd kill her babies. Love & healing to her♡

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken Před 28 dny +18

      Sorry for your loss. Controlling the narrative & seeking revenge towards the good parent are sadly more important to a narcissist to them being civil & nurturing to their offspring & ex.
      Narcissists have the primitive mind of a 5 year old.

    • @CherishDakota
      @CherishDakota Před 28 dny +16

      @@carpathianken Actually, that's doing the 5 year olds a disservice! My 4 year old is more competent.

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken Před 28 dny +11

      @@CherishDakota You're right. I've already been warned that my comments offend all the 5 year old children. If I don't change my ways I fear they'll start showing up on my doorstep, unsupervised by their parents with torches & pitchforks wanting to run me out of town. Thanks for the reminder.

    • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
      @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Před 28 dny +13

      ​@@carpathiankenTy♡ Yes. I'm related to a malignant narcissist. He's a conniving weasel. I'm no psych professional, but this guy seems sociopathic. My ♡ breaks for the mom.

    • @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
      @Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Před 28 dny +4

      @@carpathianken 😨Uh-oh! The mean group of boys in The Lord of the Flies & all those kids in Children of the Corn are coming for ya ... Run! 😄😉

  • @c.r.k.7162
    @c.r.k.7162 Před 28 dny +66

    This is a great example of why I find pushy men revolting. It doesn't matter what their positive traits are. Not respecting boundaries is an immediate deal breaker.

    • @EXROBOWIDOW
      @EXROBOWIDOW Před 27 dny +15

      When I was much younger, there was this guy who kept inviting me to go sailing with him. He even came to my house. My dad stated that he thought he was a nice guy. But there was something "off" about him, something about his eyes. Riding in a car on a first date with a man is risky enough. Remember the old "dime in the shoe" trick so a young lady could call home if things went bad? But what woman in her right mind would allow herself to be trapped on a boat on the water with a man she barely knows?? I did not listen to my dad. I said No to the guy.

    • @c.r.k.7162
      @c.r.k.7162 Před 27 dny +10

      @@EXROBOWIDOW before I was married, using a dating app I would insist on meeting a man in a public place when he asked me out. One guy refused and kept pressuring me to let him pick me up in his car from my apartment! I refused and thankfully we never met. He must have had horrible intentions not being willing to meet in public. Your sailing story reminds me of Kim Wall, the Swedish journalist who got murdered in a submarine by her interviewee.

    • @LegendaryTony.
      @LegendaryTony. Před 26 dny +6

      @@c.r.k.7162 Likewise, I was also reminded of Kim's tragic outcome, as well as an older incident from the late 80's. A farmer's wife named Jo Rodgers and her two daughters were vacationing in Florida when they accepted a stranger's invitation to go on a boat ride. This stranger was a seemingly kind man who had written directions that helped Jo find a hotel after she had become lost. Sadly, Jo and her daughters never returned from the boat ride alive. All 3 were murdered by the stranger who turned out to be a serial killer.

    • @EXROBOWIDOW
      @EXROBOWIDOW Před 25 dny +1

      ​@@c.r.k.7162 In a submarine?? Yikes!!! I hadn't heard about that one.

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 Před 13 dny +2

      Women will post this sort of thing after breaking up with the third felon she had kids with.

  • @ferdiecassel3697
    @ferdiecassel3697 Před 28 dny +97

    ...She warned authorities that he was dangerous, but they did not listen to her, despite clear warning signs; a common theme in these types of stories. Sad. Condolences to the bereaved.

    • @david-dj8or
      @david-dj8or Před 28 dny +2

      Very rare, but sometimes women lie about their husband.

    • @tessaducek5601
      @tessaducek5601 Před 28 dny

      UK is the worst.

    • @kingcosworth2643
      @kingcosworth2643 Před 27 dny +1

      @@david-dj8or Not that rare

    • @DivineBanana
      @DivineBanana Před 25 dny +2

      ​@@david-dj8orit's not that hard to tell who is genuine and who is full of shit with just a modicum of social awareness and asking a few follow-up questions. They could atleast try to distinguish the difference instead of just ignoring it all.

  • @johnbauman4005
    @johnbauman4005 Před 28 dny +195

    5:24: Totally incompetent social worker. Find a new job.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 28 dny +20

      They should NEVER say someone is not dangerous! This is a value judgement too far. Everyone if pushed too far ( at least in their mind!) can be. Social work is such a delicate balance between protecting the children and helping the parents.

    • @awomanmotherw2kids393
      @awomanmotherw2kids393 Před 28 dny +18

      That social worker should be brought up on charges. She knew he had a bad temper and was violent with his sons, never should have been allowed with the boys alone should have been with another adult!

    • @cowoverthemoo
      @cowoverthemoo Před 28 dny +9

      They ask if u are a danger to yourself and others, if u say no, they can only take your word for it. They can not assume either way they just hope u tell them the truth.

    • @cowoverthemoo
      @cowoverthemoo Před 28 dny +1

      ​@@awomanmotherw2kids393was he charged with violence towards his sons?.

    • @daisy4750
      @daisy4750 Před 28 dny +6

      Social workers need to study the many personality disorders. In fact if a parent wants custody or partial custody they should take a test for these disorders.

  • @SVIIVII
    @SVIIVII Před 27 dny +56

    The system failed those poor boys. What kind of idiot judge allows unsupervised visits with a physically abusive parent?

    • @mch2359
      @mch2359 Před 23 dny

      A system that Dr. Grande perpetuates, this is why Grande devices the public by not honestly reporting the names of the Judges and Social Workers.

    • @GhostofMrsMuir1443
      @GhostofMrsMuir1443 Před 16 dny +4

      The kind of judge who thinks that keeping the family together is the most important thing. In other words, an idiot.

    • @Ghost80
      @Ghost80 Před 14 dny +3

      That information was incorrect. I’m from England and I know this case. The visits were supervised. The supervisor took the children to his house. He pulled the children in and slammed the door in her face. She wasted time knocking on his door for five minutes and then calling her boss to ask him what to do. The gasoline had already been poured around the house. As soon as the kids were in the attic, he locked it and started the fire. By the time the supervisor saw the smoke and called the fire service, the house was already burning so hard, there was no chance. It wasn’t completely the supervisors fault. No one saw this coming. It’s only been in the past few years that the police have started looking into the psychological part of domestic violence. They are now understanding that an abuser will do anything to not only be in control until the very end but, will punish those who dare stand up to them. He did this to punish his wife. His children were just objects he owned and to use as a weapon. He took himself because he knew he would be punished in prison and as always, bullies can give but they can’t take.

    • @SVIIVII
      @SVIIVII Před 11 dny +2

      @@Ghost80 those poor babies must’ve been so terrified and confused. Thank you for the clarification.

  • @64HomeMade
    @64HomeMade Před 28 dny +60

    My mother always said if a man hits you once he'll do it again and again.

  • @mrazik131
    @mrazik131 Před 28 dny +65

    It’s portrayed so romantic a rose each day… big gestures. Man that can’t take no for an answer is dangerous and stubborn.

  • @kathybuttsarnold3534
    @kathybuttsarnold3534 Před 28 dny +54

    Reminds me of Susan Cox Powell in the States. Her husband allegedly murdered her to retain custody of his sons, but when custody was awarded to their maternal grandparents, he bludgeoned them with a hatchet and set fire to the house with explosive material. So unbelievably wicked.

  • @pocho689
    @pocho689 Před 28 dny +78

    What is wrong with the authorities!?! Unsupervised visits! Charge the social worker with negligence!

    • @MegaLivingIt
      @MegaLivingIt Před 28 dny +10

      This happens all the time with social workers who claim heavy case loads, etc. What is effective though is having a tough male relative or friend in the picture because these wife/child beaters are usually afraid of other men and will back off. Seriously. 🚫

    • @niva-vm3vy
      @niva-vm3vy Před 27 dny +1

      They go by the right of children to have contact with both parents ignoring the must important and fundamental right : A LIVE FREE OF VUOLENCE

    • @BlueKungFu
      @BlueKungFu Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@MegaLivingIt Your point about having a tough male relative or friend around is so true. A friend of mine was stalked by this creepy guy when she was younger. Authorities were utterly useless in helping her. The creep was a nineteen year old & the police viewed him as harmless, even though she was really scared of him. They just viewed him as a love struck kid with some mental health issues & basically did nothing. One night, creep decided to break into her home. Her Dad, who was ex military, heard the break in. He found the kid & shoved a gun in his mouth & told him in no uncertain terms that if he ever saw him again, he'd blow his brains out. Well wouldn't you know it, the stalking stopped! They never heard from him again! Sometimes a nice clear message is all someone needs to stop their behaviour. Wife/child beaters, stalkers, creeps.....these types prey on those weaker than themselves. The minute they're faced with someone bigger/stronger they crumple.

  • @Lauren-bd2fr
    @Lauren-bd2fr Před 28 dny +128

    The mother looks heartbroken. This is so painfully sad

  • @SugarTide935
    @SugarTide935 Před 28 dny +127

    My heart breaks for this mother…. HOW do you go on after something like this ???

    • @Kari.F.
      @Kari.F. Před 28 dny +11

      I have often wondered that myself. I can't even imagine the strength it must take to continue existing after something that is this irreparably devastating.

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 Před 28 dny +83

    As someone who actually likes model trains, I find what this person did to be particularly deplorable.

    • @barneyronnie
      @barneyronnie Před 27 dny +3

      Be careful.

    • @robertgantry2118
      @robertgantry2118 Před 26 dny

      Well yeah, but the destruction of that model train is unforgivable. (just a joke)

  • @flioink
    @flioink Před 28 dny +158

    Doctor Grande never sleeps - he keeps staring into the void for our entertainment.

  • @marciabradley7660
    @marciabradley7660 Před 28 dny +69

    Just say NO to a new person and pay attention to how they accept that boundary. Their response will be a clue.

  • @WillowT442
    @WillowT442 Před 28 dny +44

    Narcissistic men ( in my experience) will punish their wives for loving their kids like kids need to be loved. They are jealous of their children. My ex, during our divorce, paid more attention to his mistress than his children. Then when it came down to the divorce being finalized, he suddenly had an interest in our children again. Because he knew how much I loved our children he would tell the kids things about me to try and alienate them from me. We had 50/50 custody. I cannot even imagine what he would have done if I had tried for more custody like my lawyer suggested. He didn’t want me anymore but he could not just let me be. He was always trying to pick a fight with me and did not get the hint when I would not engage. He would try to escalate things by saying he was going to take me to court. He then wanted to do mediation. I tried that. He tried to manipulate the mediator with his charm. I stood my ground with him and promised myself I would never be in the same room as this man again. Narcissists are not good people. The courts just don’t see it. Luckily my kids have seem to have been able to grow to adulthood without too much trauma. But usually trauma doesn’t always surface right away

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 Před 28 dny +10

      Narcissistic women can be the same. My (now ex) partner openly said she was jealous of the positive interaction I had with her youngest child. At one point she said she hated the sound of me reading to her 4 year old!

  • @oceanstaiga5928
    @oceanstaiga5928 Před 28 dny +40

    He never loved his kids. If he can kill them just to spite his ex and show off his aggression to try and be dominant then he never loved them to begin with, no father would do that, he can’t be called that title. The boys deserved someone who cared for them as a father.

    • @micheleshively8557
      @micheleshively8557 Před 28 dny +1

      Narcissistic people can't love. They hate themselves so much. They can only blame everyone else for their problems and a lot of them have no feelings at all

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Před 28 dny +109

    This case had me in tears😪 Those poor boys🧑‍🤝‍🧑What a narcissistic monster. Claire was failed by the law & social workers. Excellent analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊💚💛

    • @passwordsuggestion5336
      @passwordsuggestion5336 Před 28 dny +4

      Me as well. So sad. Totally avoidable. But the system in place is filled with incompetence.

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 Před 28 dny

      @@passwordsuggestion5336 Very true and its hard to catch or predict these horrible people...

    • @barneyronnie
      @barneyronnie Před 27 dny +1

      Social workers aren't qualified to evaluate whether or not someone is a danger to others.

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 Před 27 dny

      @@barneyronnie Depends on person or interaction. Psychologists don't do much better. Any person who feels someone is a danger should investigate/report/delve into it more esp if they possess weapons or are going thru situations.

  • @carriefawcett9990
    @carriefawcett9990 Před 28 dny +80

    I feel so angry at that social worker! They have blood on their hands!

    • @mennoknight78
      @mennoknight78 Před 28 dny +17

      I can understand why, but it's not really fair to blame her. Mr. Sykes was a calculating guy; I doubt he went into her office screaming about death and destruction. Undoubtedly the social worker feels terrible about the whole ordeal.

    • @keithb6717
      @keithb6717 Před 28 dny +13

      @@mennoknight78
      It escalated it and they did nothing

    • @bullwinkle69
      @bullwinkle69 Před 28 dny

      @@mennoknight78I hope they do, they totally failed these boys, as a social worker, you must have the victims best interests in mind, the boys told them they were scared of their father, if that is not a red flag to them, the social worker needs to find a new career.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 Před 28 dny +31

    Pregnancy, and Leaving are Extremely Dangerous for Victims..

  • @camellia8625
    @camellia8625 Před 28 dny +37

    What an unspeakably evil father

  • @natural3362
    @natural3362 Před 27 dny +21

    He killed himself to avoid shame and accountability. Narcissist will rather kill themselves to punish people and be the victim rather than take accountability

  • @marisaera2353
    @marisaera2353 Před 28 dny +19

    Why does nobody listen to these poor women that sound the alarm about these freaks?

  • @QuantumStellar
    @QuantumStellar Před 28 dny +21

    Trust your internal evil meter. When you first get the feeling something is not right, but cannot put your finger on it.....walk away. She might have been Childless without this man, but now shes Childless just the same.

  • @Grawlix_Jungle
    @Grawlix_Jungle Před 28 dny +18

    I know that there's folly in indulging into much armchair psychiatry, but the Victim/Vulnerable Narcissist has to be one of the most contemptible personality disorders out there when you consider the amount of psychic and emotional - to say nothing of physical - damage they can inflict on those close to them. Domestic violence, stalking, etc. Oftentimes family annihilators seem to fall into this profile. Just absolutely malignant behavior

  • @georgeoh-well8116
    @georgeoh-well8116 Před 28 dny +40

    Claire regretted not walking away at the first signs that she was dealing with a narcissist.
    " Too good to be true "

  • @lenasamzelius5530
    @lenasamzelius5530 Před 28 dny +32

    Poor, poor Claire. I hope she will heal as well as possible. She looks so happy and beautiful in the photos with her sweet children.
    My heart breaks for her and her sons. Good luck, Claire, and Rest in Peace, Paul and Jack. ❤

  • @jademoon5103
    @jademoon5103 Před 28 dny +21

    The courts need to get tougher on these fathers and recognize what they’re capable of when awarding custody

  • @deborahblackvideoediting8697

    This might be the saddest case you've reported. I couldn't help but cry when you said Claire's final words to her boys.

  • @jenanne31
    @jenanne31 Před 28 dny +62

    What an horrific case. Poor Claire. This is a great reminder of how dangerous a victim narcissist can be. Thanks for the analysis, Dr. Grande!

  • @sparkplugpeggy4910
    @sparkplugpeggy4910 Před 28 dny +79

    Totally unrelated story: i had a coworker who lost a baby brother in the 1930s. Their mom was washing clothes on the porch and the lil brother accidentally rode his tricycle off of the porch and into a scalding hot tub of water. he went in head first and was completely submerged for several seconds. He died the next day. My coworker said her mother never forgave herself and even decades later she could not even mention his name without crying😢

    • @mothercabbagepatch3344
      @mothercabbagepatch3344 Před 28 dny +20

      That is so sad. Poor woman.

    • @willthebeast8002
      @willthebeast8002 Před 28 dny +8

      Thanks, now I feel worse.

    • @carpathianken
      @carpathianken Před 28 dny +10

      Trauma haunts us. My teenage uncle had a seizure in the bath & drowned. The paramedics raced there to try to save him but he died. Now, everytime my grandmother hears the sound of emergency vehicle sirens it gives her P.T.S.D flashbacks.

    • @dontblockthebox
      @dontblockthebox Před 28 dny +7

      I lost my brother to gun violence at the end of 2018 I couldn’t think about guns without crying, and same with his name.

    • @renee1961
      @renee1961 Před 28 dny +6

      I can't imagine her Agony. 🕊🕊🕊🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔

  • @christinejones1721
    @christinejones1721 Před 28 dny +42

    It’s shocking how often this happens.

  • @user-st6nt4ou6f
    @user-st6nt4ou6f Před 28 dny +39

    Typical action- a narcissist wears down the residtance, then shows their real self.

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson Před 28 dny +56

    The comic relief is always absent when the case is truly tragic.

  • @audreycasassa1683
    @audreycasassa1683 Před 28 dny +24

    Beautiful young boys, rest in peace! Claire my heart is broken for you💔💔💔

  • @barrythomas2357
    @barrythomas2357 Před 28 dny +22

    OMG ! I watch Dr Grande every day and I have to say that this truly shocked me and deeply saddened me too. DS murders his sons to hurt their mother !
    'Don't leave me Paul , don't leave me , I love you' - 'Jack , be at peace , i love you.'
    MY HEART IS BREAKING...

  • @AliOmar-mb8pu
    @AliOmar-mb8pu Před 28 dny +11

    It is one thing to hate your ex and quite another to harm your own children..SICK

  • @noway-uf7pe
    @noway-uf7pe Před 28 dny +15

    The courage of that burned child to speak the truth to authorities despite probably knowing he was dying. Also, tried to rescue his brother. A better person than their father, by far. Darren didn't deserve his sons.

  • @SaigonBaby100
    @SaigonBaby100 Před 28 dny +18

    the "father" said his death would bring him peace..
    but he's finding no peace in hell

  • @katisugarbaker7349
    @katisugarbaker7349 Před 28 dny +50

    Smart women will refuse indulgent gifts because of men like him. If someone gives you an expensive gift, they always think you owe them whatever they are seeking from you. It is a total manipulation. It is best to know what it is, know what he is, and stay as far away as possible from him.

    • @yarnpower
      @yarnpower Před 28 dny +4

      I agree except your characterization that ‘smart women’ would turn away a narcissist. A person can be smart but trusting.

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 Před 27 dny +1

      Some predators are very hard to see, not all narcissists will give you expensive gifts they will not act like you think they will a lot of people don't think that they'll be caught in a relationship but a lot do and it's sad

  • @CristinaF210
    @CristinaF210 Před 28 dny +16

    well to be clear Claire TRIED to say no many times his advances
    that says a lot about him, what a psycho
    her pain is unimaginable

  • @michellesartori6695
    @michellesartori6695 Před 28 dny +22

    Oh, the poor mother and children! It always gets to me when the children are hurt and killed by parents who want to take out their rage on their spouse or ex spouse. Those poor boys should be adults now, and Paul is only days younger than my grandson. They should be enjoying their lives, but they lay in a casket or in an urn somewhere. I am SO sorry for their mother, who has had her entire lifetime changed by the actions of an evil man who thought of no one but himself as narcissists are want to do. Thank you Dr Grande for another fine analysis of a case, a very sad one!

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette Před 28 dny +1

      It always gets to me when people don't use proper punctuation.

  • @bunberrier
    @bunberrier Před 28 dny +21

    This is one of the saddest DG's Ive ever watched.

  • @snappybean
    @snappybean Před 28 dny +21

    Those poor kids.

  • @mydailyangel
    @mydailyangel Před 28 dny +15

    10:03 Dr. Grande threw the entire adjective dictionary at him! GO DOC!

  • @turtlejeepjen314
    @turtlejeepjen314 Před 28 dny +30

    as the survivor of an abusive marriage, it is virtually impossible to leave (with 2 children) if you are financially dependent…. unless you have someone who can take you in. I was blessed in that my mom was grateful to take us in because I had ZERO dollars, & that also means there is no way to get a divorce lawyer by yourself unless someone helps you pay for it.
    BUT, plot twist, a year later, my MOM is now trying to be controlling… but thankfully not as much as exhusband!😭😭
    I love ALL of Dr. Grande’s videos…. it’s like a therapy session!!💚💚

    • @barneyronnie
      @barneyronnie Před 27 dny +1

      When you're living for free under Mom's roof, she naturally expects to have a bit of input into the situation.

    • @klz9500
      @klz9500 Před 27 dny +1

      There are often low income lawyers or a program for legal help for victims of domestic violence. Check in with your state government for resources.
      The other thing is, you can file without a lawyer as well. It's not easy and depends on how much of a fight they put up but it's not impossible.

    • @barb7124
      @barb7124 Před 21 dnem

      Your situation sounds like mine

  • @uggggggghhhhh
    @uggggggghhhhh Před 28 dny +25

    How awful. I teared up thinking about Claire holding her sons as they passed away. I cant imagine the agony she has to live with. I would not be able to do it.

  • @GgMeir
    @GgMeir Před 28 dny +7

    I usually don’t gravitate to these types of videos but I am glad that I started following Dr. Grande. He has given valuable, informative insights that I am passing onto my children so they can be aware of criminal traits of others.

  • @1mimarin
    @1mimarin Před 27 dny +4

    I remember this case, so unbelievably sad. I loathe people who view children as property

  • @ArtU4All
    @ArtU4All Před 28 dny +6

    Horrific
    Just horrific and evil beyond comprehension
    What use are the social work safety nets if they are indifferent and incompetent ?
    Why are we paying their wages?
    Unsupervised visits for someone like that???????

  • @phoenixrises1311
    @phoenixrises1311 Před 28 dny +18

    She waited way too long... Ya gotta run after the first slap

  • @onecleanfinger
    @onecleanfinger Před 28 dny +32

    These behaviors never get better, believe me!

  • @meeperbird
    @meeperbird Před 28 dny +34

    Narcs always go for the tires…

    • @meeperbird
      @meeperbird Před 28 dny +3

      I mean, tires first, kids last.

    • @daynasafranek7807
      @daynasafranek7807 Před 28 dny +2

      He was a narc as well? Crazy!

    • @iamamaniaint
      @iamamaniaint Před 28 dny

      What does this mean?

    • @meeperbird
      @meeperbird Před 28 dny

      @@iamamaniaint A narcissist will often slash your tires and your friends tires if you try to leave them.

    • @Timesend
      @Timesend Před 26 dny

      @@meeperbirdI thought you meant fed 😂

  • @RichardPonsford-kv2uy
    @RichardPonsford-kv2uy Před 28 dny +10

    Jesus! What a sadistic narcissist.

  • @micheleshively8557
    @micheleshively8557 Před 28 dny +5

    The victims of narcissistic abuse have so much guilt and shame from it. I know because unfortunately I spent my entire life with two different people who were. Twenty years with the first then twenty years with the second. Just got away from this two years ago because he passed away. I'm still learning how to love myself again and rid that shame blame and forgive myself for staying with them.
    The only advice I can give to anyone who wants it is. Run as far as you can! There is no happiness with these soulless people 😢 such a tragic case. Thank you Dr Grande for this heartbreaking one

  • @paulaholte6735
    @paulaholte6735 Před 28 dny +5

    this brought tears to my eyes 😞these poor innocent children and horrible for their mother to have to endure it all

  • @Zeepjeliefs
    @Zeepjeliefs Před 28 dny +5

    Dr Grande could you maybe make more videos about parents with narcissism and give examples on how to interact with them?

  • @siobhonc
    @siobhonc Před 27 dny +3

    No words. No words.

  • @rickyspanish6261
    @rickyspanish6261 Před 28 dny +6

    People need to start paying attention to their surroundings again. We need to stop letting evil sh*" %$&#s do shit like this. There were many signs that others ignored, even against Clairs attempts to tell others how dangerous he was.

  • @nopereradicator
    @nopereradicator Před 28 dny +26

    Eff social workers. Useless.

    • @hi-et1oq
      @hi-et1oq Před 28 dny +1

      They are like nurses they're just there for the pay check

    • @stancexpunks
      @stancexpunks Před 27 dny +1

      💯

    • @stancexpunks
      @stancexpunks Před 27 dny

      @@hi-et1oq some nurses are actually good, caring, and go the extra mile for you, at least in the US where healthcare privatized. I had the best nurses when I was in labour. But yes, a lot of nurses are mediocre, particularly the ones brought over from the Philippines (we have nursing shortage here so we bring nurses in from there). The diff between the Filipino nurses and the American ones during my time in hospital was like night and day

  • @susie1370
    @susie1370 Před 28 dny +6

    The show " Evil lives here" did a documentary about this , Claire was interviewed in the case !
    So heartbreaking hearing ber tell her story 😭

  • @maryannebphillips9124
    @maryannebphillips9124 Před 28 dny +7

    A 6 year old was returned to her druggie parents an away from a couple who loved her.
    The other children had high level of meth and the little girl's body was never found. All against the observances of the social worker.
    The judge did not leave the bench and investigate the true nature of the parents and tge home provided.
    That judge should be charged and disbarred.

  • @marlaroberts2087
    @marlaroberts2087 Před 28 dny +7

    It’s too bad prospective couples, character traits, can’t be sized up by Dr. Grande before “tying the knot”! Another case of authorities letting children down! Such a tragedy!!

    • @EXROBOWIDOW
      @EXROBOWIDOW Před 27 dny

      A lot of marriage counselors actually try to dissuade the couple during premarital counseling. Of course, this is primarily to test their commitment, and may not shatter the "love is blind" thing. At my church, the pastors counsel with the objective of lowering expectations down to reality. And they advise everyone to "marry well." But how many people listen to advice?

  • @mbrown5494
    @mbrown5494 Před 28 dny +7

    Wow! THAT was a fcking monster of a "human" . She will never get over the pain of her loss of her kids. I just hope she doesn't try to blame herself for this. Oh yeah, nice job you incompetent social worker(s).WTF

  • @adriengadson3544
    @adriengadson3544 Před 28 dny +6

    This is sadly happening a few times for the past months in my state. The latest just a week ago with the Dad killing 3 kids in his car then himself. This while his wife was giving birth at the Hospital. These men are garbage and controlling monsters. Women when you start a relationship if anything is aggressive or off or to controlling GET OUT! You will never change that man or be safe...rip to those boys.

  • @M-yb1cc
    @M-yb1cc Před 28 dny +4

    So sad. Best to avoid arrogant men!

  • @christiandenault7606
    @christiandenault7606 Před 28 dny +6

    Reminds me of the Josh Powell case. So sad. 😔

  • @sweetsharie66
    @sweetsharie66 Před 28 dny +5

    Im mad and sad at the same time. My condolences to you Clare. 🙏🏾💗

  • @deanpd3402
    @deanpd3402 Před 28 dny +4

    Family law courts keep getting it wrong.

  • @Jag...
    @Jag... Před 27 dny +3

    We had a similar case here in Sweden 2013. The dad Jonas Olsson burned down his cabin on Dalarö with his 3 kids inside. He made one attempt to set the fire and texted the mom "tehe revenge is sweet, you dumb B!" Then he noticed that the fire didn't take so he turned his car around and made sure the fire was set. He had barricaded the door maybe even the windows (dont remember 100). The daughter made it out alive but the two sons didn't make it.
    Absolutely horrific.

  • @suzannewhitaker3507
    @suzannewhitaker3507 Před 28 dny +9

    it was love bombing at first, a red flag.

    • @marysanders9461
      @marysanders9461 Před 5 dny

      Wish I had known that when my relationship with my eventual first husband (died recently of an illness at 71) started out. My mother, also very much a narcissist, had despised my existence since my conception and made sure I knew it even though she was not physically abusive, so I think I grew up with a warped view of what love was that didn't get straightened out for many years.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 Před 28 dny +4

    My heart goes out to Claire! I'm a Survivor of DV. Praying for her.💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @DonPeyote420
    @DonPeyote420 Před 28 dny +5

    what a monster

  • @calvertschmued2920
    @calvertschmued2920 Před 27 dny +2

    Thank you for handling this case with respect and empathy for the boys and their mom.

  • @oakwestplayer
    @oakwestplayer Před 27 dny +2

    My father was like this. Glad I made it out.

  • @-10
    @-10 Před 28 dny +5

    Visitor time given to a convincted violent man whose own children say they're afraid of...

  • @katep23
    @katep23 Před 28 dny +19

    terrible controlling bully. Thanks for covering a British event for a change.

  • @lucastaneda2335
    @lucastaneda2335 Před 28 dny +4

    I wish Dr. Grande had the balls to diagnose someone in these videos for a change

  • @alm8bob
    @alm8bob Před 27 dny +3

    After knowing how malignant narcissists operate from personal experience, it didn’t surprise me how this sad horror story ended. I wish people could learn from early age the signs that they are dealing with a narcissist. Love bombing is one of them and a very powerful manipulative tactic. Tricking their victim into conceiving a child or more is another manipulative technique. The possibility of harming the children become their primary weapon. Pitty play or playing the victim, another powerful manipulative technique.
    Keep your eyes open specially if you have low self esteem and if you are too empathetic.

  • @angelagreen3642
    @angelagreen3642 Před 28 dny +2

    Thank you Dr. Grande for your analysis and kindness. 💔

  • @martist911wasits-not-real4

    Whew makes me glad my dad took the train set I got for Christmas back the day after.

  • @johnfox9169
    @johnfox9169 Před 28 dny +3

    Terribly tragic case. Didn't anyone heed her complaints about this creep?

  • @marabethbutton3660
    @marabethbutton3660 Před 12 dny

    This is one of the saddest stories I have heard you cover Dr. Grande. Hearing the mothers last words to her sons made me cry. I sincerely hope she has been able to find a way to rebuild her life after this. I just can’t imagine the level of despair she felt in losing both her sons to this monster.

  • @jasonnikolic
    @jasonnikolic Před 28 dny +8

    Last time it was a mother who did this and all the comments were blaming mental illness. Funny how that's not the case for men.

    • @stancexpunks
      @stancexpunks Před 27 dny

      Dunno which case you’re referring to but they were prob referring to postpartum depression/ psychosis when saying the woman had mental illness… men can’t get that. Plus the father has a violent history. That’s who he is. It wasn’t a sudden out of the blue episode with seemingly no motive. He had said and done a lot of things over several years / more than a decade to make the mom believe he’s dangerous. He has no history of mental illness. He was feuding with the mother over custody. He planned it in advance. It is clear why he did what he did.

    • @thomasdemoor874
      @thomasdemoor874 Před 27 dny

      @@stancexpunks Funny how you wrote all of that and still didn't refute his point.
      It's always the same pattern:
      female murderer: "Clearly she was mentally ill from whatever disorder they've added this week."
      male murderer: "This man was the devil and a disgusting individual."

    • @LifeisaHorrorMovie
      @LifeisaHorrorMovie Před 27 dny

      What are you saying... Everyone's blaming mental illness here too.. NPD is a personality disorder and narcissistic traits are linked to psychological issues. Stop your "women have it better" campaign. You're acting like a victim narcissist yourself.

  • @Awake129
    @Awake129 Před 27 dny +1

    Wow. Those poor boys, that brave brother who tried to save the other. This story brought me to tears. What a monster.

  • @bannedforlife9742
    @bannedforlife9742 Před 28 dny +3

    Dr.Grande has wrecked model trains for me officially. Everyone shall be punished. That's sad as hell.

  • @bold810
    @bold810 Před 28 dny +5

    Good afternoon, Dr. Grande. Happy Weekend and such.

  • @phylliswurm9473
    @phylliswurm9473 Před 28 dny +6

    You can date but give more time to accept marriage. Especially when kids from previous relationship are around. Terrible outcome.

  • @harryb2545
    @harryb2545 Před 28 dny +2

    This was a tough one Dr. Grande. I struggled hard to reconcile what unimaginable pain, sadness, suffering and anger Claire, the beautiful boys mother must be living with every single day. How is this possible for humans to comprehend. Then, I remembered the victim impact statement made in 1992 from Isabell Darren. Isabell’s little brother was a horrific victim of Jeffrey Dahmer. If you aren’t familiar with Isabell’s emotional and traumatic courtroom outburst during Dahmer’s sentencing, please watch. I now know the life sentence of emotional purgatory Claire must live. God speed to you Claire and may your little buddies rest in eternal peace.

  • @patrickoguinn4553
    @patrickoguinn4553 Před 28 dny +2

    This one made me cry. 😢

  • @nyreekrikorian
    @nyreekrikorian Před 27 dny +3

    What beautiful boys! I am in tears. Such a horrible tragrdy!! I hope the mom finds peace.

  • @earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero

    Dr. Grande da 👑.

  • @megatherion2695
    @megatherion2695 Před 28 dny +4

    As always, thanks, Doc! 👍

  • @vickythefist7062
    @vickythefist7062 Před 23 dny +1

    This happened 5 miles from where i live . The mother went on to have another child a few years after this tradgedy. He was a monster

  • @wildmountainthyme4123
    @wildmountainthyme4123 Před 27 dny +1

    I feel heartbroken for Claire. My prayers and condolences are with her.

  • @nopereradicator
    @nopereradicator Před 28 dny

    Excellent analysis Dr. Grande!

  • @lysawoolley2113
    @lysawoolley2113 Před 28 dny +4

    Heartbreaking 💔