Grand Prix Movements by W. Schultheis

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024

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  • @fizzyizzy8261
    @fizzyizzy8261 Před 6 měsíci +16

    Look, Ma, no rolkur!

  • @ceffyngwynstud7138
    @ceffyngwynstud7138 Před 8 měsíci +24

    So soft, never once behind the vertical, all in simple snaffle. A rare sight today!

  • @sandirobinson6966
    @sandirobinson6966 Před 9 měsíci +30

    What a treasure this film is. How it should be done. Rider is completely tuned in, controlled and exquisitely balanced. Horse is beautifully trained, conditioned, relaxed, willing, and all natural, effortless, correct, FORWARD movements. Yes, I was trained in classical dressage as a young person. What has happened in modern dressage we used to call "circus riding".

    • @sandralogue1774
      @sandralogue1774 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Watching this is eye opening for someone who doesn't ride and comparing the two riding styles.
      I have seen this style of riding only a few times out here of maybe 3 pairs...
      Sad indeed

  • @IndianMaidProducts
    @IndianMaidProducts Před 6 měsíci +14

    Magnificent. So fluid. No appearance of driving the horse from the rider's seat. Makes me feel calm to see a horse so relaxed. I taught myself to ride to the Prix de St. George on a Morgan named Frenesee. A visitor saw us enjoying ourselves at that level and called us over. He was stunned when he found out the horse and I had no coach. He offfered me a chance to ride for the USET but I turned it down. Grateful, yes. But I wasn't interested in chasing someone else's dream. Frenners and I did it for FUN.This is how dressage should be. Thanks!

  • @misschieflolz1301
    @misschieflolz1301 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I don't know how this got recommended but those 1- time tempi's were out of this world. Alright, they're not as 'expressive' as seen in modern dressage but they look far more pleasing and literally effortless

  • @Seaspray127
    @Seaspray127 Před 3 lety +34

    Great to see a horse correctly use the hind leg and not be ruined by modern methods. I never saw this horse go behind the bit. The horse looks thoughful instead of stressed.

  • @ImogenC-rt3fm
    @ImogenC-rt3fm Před 8 měsíci +15

    Viewers should also note this is a youngish horse, not more than seven, given how dark his gray. Beautiful. The schwung in the piaffe and passage actually made me weep. No resistance anywhere in his body or mind. This used to be the BEGINNING of horse training, the driving manual, so to speak. Breathtaking. Heartfelt thanks to this poster.

  • @juttareiss7020
    @juttareiss7020 Před 3 lety +28

    Das Genick immer der höchste Punkt,auf Trense ein fein gerittenes Pferd. Nie hinter der Senkrechten. Wunderbar anzusehen. Da sollten sich viele Reiter ein Beispiel dran nehmen.

  • @marionsaalborn4407
    @marionsaalborn4407 Před 5 lety +89

    competitions should come back to this qualty....

    • @kimberlyholloway6888
      @kimberlyholloway6888 Před 4 lety +26

      You need to start with the "judges" and "trainers" in order for that to happen.

    • @TheOldandslow
      @TheOldandslow Před 8 měsíci +12

      Andreas Helgstrand should watch this and learn what dressage is supposed to be like. With a snaffle.

    • @rudigerschmitz1997
      @rudigerschmitz1997 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Most todays judges have unlearnd the true pictures or never seen

    • @Klugschieterin
      @Klugschieterin Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@kimberlyholloway6888it's a need to come back learning by watching first
      We learn by imitation at the best

  • @qossl6727
    @qossl6727 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Wow, what a beautiful trusting horse and an excellent rider

  • @TheLadyOfKerry
    @TheLadyOfKerry Před 7 měsíci +11

    Wonderful footage: no fancy high tech saddle and performed with a simple bridle, he is one with his beautiful mount. Such skill and dual commitment. Wow!

  • @holgerkern3615
    @holgerkern3615 Před rokem +12

    Hochachtung vor dieser reiterlichen Leistung! Und das alles auf Trense geritten!

  • @ktgequestrian4475
    @ktgequestrian4475 Před 8 měsíci +12

    Where did it all go wrong?
    How lovely is this to watch compared to the monstrosity we mostly see today.

    • @astas7364
      @astas7364 Před 11 dny

      It got wrong when the masses where talked into believing modern circus riding is what dressage should look like and when the big money got involved.

  • @blubbl84
    @blubbl84 Před 3 lety +35

    Was für ein tolles Paar!
    Eine tolle Selbsthaltung vom Pferd und weit VOR der Senkrechten👍
    Besonders interessant finde ich die Trabverstärkung, unglaublich, wie die Hinterhand schiebt und das Pferd am Widerrist optisch wächst. Zudem zeigt die Nase, anders als bei den neumodischen, hypermobilen Beinewerfern auf das Fessel- statt auf das Vorderfuß Wurzelgelenk. Bemerkenswert empfinde ich auch die Entwicklung der Piaffe. Bei der ersten dachte ich noch " uiii...dass der die Hinterhand so hängen lässt, hätte ich nicht vermutut" , aber in den darauffolgenden Sequenzen forderte der Reiter mehr Hinterhandaktivität und die folgte prompt. Echt Klasse!
    Generell hatte der Reiter einen stabilen, sehr guten Sitz, der aber im Gegensatz zu vielen heutigen Profis, eine gesunde Körperspannung hatte, ohne zu verkrampfen. Ich musste an die Legerte von Philippe Carl denken. Es sah zwar nicht mühelos, aber dafür harmonisch und motiviert aus. Da können sich Mal ganz viele eine Menge von abschneiden👍

    • @tasjaboes6752_
      @tasjaboes6752_ Před 2 lety

      Genau! Ich habe dort auch geritten, ohne dressurmäßiges reiten geht auch bei einigen Rrnnpferden nichts

  • @traciebolton1951
    @traciebolton1951 Před rokem +23

    Really great horse and Rider and not one single sign of roll cur in the whole exercise. What a joy to see with all of the overflexion and horses being ridden the way they are today by most writers

  • @ezire
    @ezire Před 8 měsíci +9

    Thank you very much dor this video. There are imperfections, sure, but the overall impression is great. There is not a forced movement and the horse is natural, not animated. The body is fluid, the horse is looking upfront. The most telling is the purity of gates. Two-beat trot and a 3-beat canter. So rare to see these days.
    Another interesting point is the riders' seat. The saddle allows movement of his body, which many dressage riders would not be able to withstand without holding on the tight reins as if their life depends on it. This rider does not need to do that. He moves in the saddle, sure, more than what we have been seeing these days, but you can see occassional slack in his reins. He does not hang on it to keep himslelf deadly stoic.

    • @11buleria
      @11buleria Před 8 měsíci +2

      Your observations are so accurate. I don’t watch dressage anymore because it looks painful and forced. Today’s riders and instructors should study classical riders of the past. In this film the rider isn’t stiffly leaning back, but moving his in harmony with the horse. He and the horse are in tune and attentive, but not mechanically manipulated.

    • @margieguild519
      @margieguild519 Před 28 dny

      An absolute joy to watch, both horse and rider

  • @hollyweir7537
    @hollyweir7537 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Wow. Thank you for sharing this beautiful example of correct dressage, truly inspirational for any aspiring to excellance!

  • @stellaswales8625
    @stellaswales8625 Před 7 měsíci +6

    A joy to watch. Virtual perfection. This is dressage as it should be. Not like today's abusive and bullying tactics that the riders and judges seem to enjoy.

  • @ImogenC-rt3fm
    @ImogenC-rt3fm Před 8 měsíci +7

    THIS IS A REAL TREASURE!! THIS IS SO, SO, SO CORRECT. BEAUTIFUL. Thank you!.

  • @gragracias
    @gragracias Před rokem +6

    Genial geritten. Ein Vorbild für unsere heutiges mangelndes Pferdebewusstsein. Die Menschen verstehen so wenig von Pferden wie niemals zuvor.

    • @andreas7937
      @andreas7937 Před rokem +1

      Das stimmt leider. Oft ist auch kein Interesse mehr da. Ulrich Raulff hat es 2015 in seinem Buch "Das letzte Jahrhundert der Pferde. Geschichte einer Trennung" beschrieben.

  • @sophiesaraby1105
    @sophiesaraby1105 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Lovely, how I wish we could see this in competition, how did dressage go so far off course

  • @janmeyer3129
    @janmeyer3129 Před 9 měsíci +5

    So free and cooperative. Equanimity of horse and rider

  • @joelleclaire4903
    @joelleclaire4903 Před 6 lety +21

    Was für eine tolle selbsthaltung. Und das ohrenspiel! Eine wonne, anzusehen!!

  • @kerstin.jitschin5861
    @kerstin.jitschin5861 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Looks so much better than today, head in a perfect position,it’s fun to watch 💯❤️❣️😊

  • @jodymaley3674
    @jodymaley3674 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Modern riders have lots of room to reach for such quality

  • @lottefleck3688
    @lottefleck3688 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What a delight to watch. Should be mandatory viewing for today‘s judges

  • @j.m.8545
    @j.m.8545 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Are you sure this is dressage? Why isn't the horses tongue hanging out? Why isn't he rearing? ;-) Honestly, this is beautiful.

  • @TheFineLine920
    @TheFineLine920 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Great horse! Wonderful video!
    Priceless! ❤

  • @petradietl1568
    @petradietl1568 Před 3 lety +15

    Was mir als Laien sofort auffällt ist, dass die Nase Vor der Senkrechten ist und nicht wie heute, wo die Pferde so zusammen geschraubt sind... Toll!!! Das sollten die Reiter heutzutage vielleicht mal wieder anschauen

  • @heidi2270
    @heidi2270 Před 4 lety +11

    A very very talent horse and rider! Horse moves very easy. Thats wat it could look like!

  • @timothyhaire5741
    @timothyhaire5741 Před 8 lety +18

    Awesome history' at its finest!!!

  • @Pferdecoach
    @Pferdecoach Před 5 lety +14

    timeless !!!

  • @lynneflavell130
    @lynneflavell130 Před 4 lety +10

    Just lovely - thank you

  • @Angelisophie
    @Angelisophie Před 6 měsíci +3

    Warum haben die meisten Reiter die klassische Reiterkunst verlernt. Ein Trauerspiel was in der heutigen Zeit stattdessen passiert.

  • @susantunbridge4612
    @susantunbridge4612 Před rokem +2

    Beautiful horse, gifted rider. I wish it was clearer.

  • @11buleria
    @11buleria Před 8 měsíci +8

    We need to reform modern severe dressage techniques. The riders of the past should be studied and emulated. I no longer enjoy watching modern dressage. It almost looks abusive and forced.

  • @tasjaboes6752_
    @tasjaboes6752_ Před 2 lety +2

    Mega! I hat the honour to ride there!!!

  • @JG-mt3rp
    @JG-mt3rp Před 8 lety +10

    This is great, thanks for sharing!

  • @HorseBodywork
    @HorseBodywork Před 7 měsíci +2

    That piaffe😍

  • @lesleywilbourne7823
    @lesleywilbourne7823 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Beautiful x

  • @today7518
    @today7518 Před 8 měsíci +5

    More enjoyable experience than the cruel, nut-job, abusive practices pushed by today's corrupt and soulless horse world. Don't see foaming and drooling tortured horses with blue tongues hanging out...and heads and mouths pulled back so tight horses' eyes are completely disassociated and tormented. Movements are much more balanced and humane. How did modern dressage become a massive abusive and ugly show of cruel riders and tormented horses?

  • @Jannacatha
    @Jannacatha Před 7 měsíci

    Very interesting, thanks for posting 👍👍👍

  • @valcurley5010
    @valcurley5010 Před 3 lety +14

    OMG, this can’t be dressage without Rolkeur, and in a snaffle bridle! 🙄…

    • @tasjaboes6752_
      @tasjaboes6752_ Před 2 lety

      ??? How old are you?

    • @valcurley5010
      @valcurley5010 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tasjaboes6752_ Why?

    • @nmd3132
      @nmd3132 Před rokem +3

      if you can't ride the horse in a snaffle you shouldn't be on him. modern riders are an abomination.

    • @valcurley5010
      @valcurley5010 Před rokem +1

      @@nmd3132 If you absolutely want to ride absolutely correctly, Jean Luc Cornille of Science of Motion breaks everything down according to current science. He's brilliant.

    • @nmd3132
      @nmd3132 Před rokem

      @@valcurley5010 thanks. my fav will always be Klimke tho, LOL.

  • @Roman-ey1bn
    @Roman-ey1bn Před 5 lety +4

    super!

  • @morganellius6191
    @morganellius6191 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Proof that dressage can be done, without the horse being btv, or with painful bits.

  • @sandrajenkins6822
    @sandrajenkins6822 Před 8 měsíci +3

    no rolkur!!!

  • @cocolallaradikal
    @cocolallaradikal Před 8 lety +4

    when was this filmed?

  • @cindym.1618
    @cindym.1618 Před 5 měsíci

    Look how high the poll is. Are dressage horses no longer bred with this type of conformation?

  • @lauralauren6432
    @lauralauren6432 Před 7 měsíci

    Today we are Not allowed to tighten the noseband so hard

    • @goettling
      @goettling Před 6 měsíci

      This a dropped noseband.

    • @lauralauren6432
      @lauralauren6432 Před 6 měsíci

      @@goettling They have names. This is Remont band. The most common today is Aachen band. 2

  • @SoozUK
    @SoozUK Před 7 měsíci

    Are the people commenting about how wonderful this is even watching the video? In the changes the horse is WAY behind the vertical. By your standards you should be livid haha.

    • @goettling
      @goettling Před 6 měsíci +1

      The horse is never behind the vertical. Don't know what you are looking at

    • @lottefleck3688
      @lottefleck3688 Před 4 měsíci

      Not much clue about anything? :)

    • @JackOllie4
      @JackOllie4 Před měsícem

      Oh, here you are again. Maybe you're the one laughing at the horse's torment in that Dujardin video?

  • @MrQuabbi
    @MrQuabbi Před 3 lety +2

    how old is this video?

  • @caciliawhy5195
    @caciliawhy5195 Před rokem

    And look at the saddle. I think he had his own saddle and it was flat. None of the padding today that helps you stay in the better. On the other hand, horses today, do have more movement.

    • @user-fe7mg5ot9z
      @user-fe7mg5ot9z Před 9 měsíci +4

      More movement but at what price? Less free, more stressed, tight, unpleasant to watch. Is more movement really worth the price the horses pay? The movement is all in the front end, little hind end engagement. Hollow backs. Goes against everything dressage is supposed to be about.

  • @charlottebonnie5320
    @charlottebonnie5320 Před 3 lety +2

    Grand Prix W. Schultheiss/17th Dec. 2020: W. Sch. sometimes leans back and is behind the vertical line. While the horse is in extended trot or in passage he seems to have difficulties to stay close to the saddle as Joef Neckermann. you can see this very clearly because of the the slow motion - a difficulty for the judges or not?!

    • @DowntownChris
      @DowntownChris Před 3 lety +2

      @@ohjeh7388 Neckermann is not nearly as rythmic. Schultheiss was an artist, Neckermann a technician.

    • @AscendingOne7
      @AscendingOne7 Před 3 lety +1

      How well someone sits has to do with their personal anatomy as well or whether they have back problems or stiffness somewhere.

  • @mikeutube123
    @mikeutube123 Před měsícem +1

    I'm going to get killed for this but I've got to call it the way I see it. I'm very disappointed in this video. I first got involved in dressage a bit over half a century ago and Shulties was considered one of the Gods then. Had I seen that video then at one of our Saturday night potluck dinner and film festivals (Hi PRRC if any are left) I would have made essentially the same comments that I'm reading here now. And, just like the present day comments I read here, they would have been correct - as far as they go.
    The problem is the horse is not raising or bending his back at all. In a phrase, he's a leg mover. Making things worse, or probably making things the way they are, Willy is pounding the poop out of that poor horse's back with his seat.
    Please don't take these remarks as disrespectful of the great Shulties. I would like to imagine that if I should find myself magically standing next to him watching the best of today's best, I would have the good sense to whisper in his ear, “We stand on the stage you built for us."

  • @user-ii7dc7cb9l
    @user-ii7dc7cb9l Před 6 měsíci +1

    Still some roklur but nearly as bad as today

    • @goettling
      @goettling Před 6 měsíci +2

      The word is "rollkur" and is nowhere to be found here. Willi Schultheiss is a master!

  • @jonjonwp
    @jonjonwp Před rokem

    He sits like a sack of potatoes and really that poor horse. Mouth open all the time. Just awful to watch.