Weird Coffee Science: The Hard Bloom

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2019
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Komentáře • 632

  • @bfuller628
    @bfuller628 Před 5 lety +1847

    A month ago I was going along happily just brewing my coffee. Now, since I stumbled across your channel, I am sitting here looking up how to test the hardness of my water, running triangle taste tests, measuring the consistency of my grinds, and even home cupping. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?

    • @patrickmcmullen1467
      @patrickmcmullen1467 Před 4 lety +15

      hurdlingelephants I think he might call it education! 🧐

    • @naturligfunktion4232
      @naturligfunktion4232 Před 4 lety +22

      Relate to this so much 😂

    • @LuisAlonzoRivero
      @LuisAlonzoRivero Před 4 lety +65

      Same here. God I miss those times where I could enjoy every kind of coffee, even instant coffee. Ignorance is bliss.

    • @jewi7478
      @jewi7478 Před 3 lety +27

      Same buddy, he fucked my life up. But I still love him and his videos :D

    • @allieflounder5764
      @allieflounder5764 Před 3 lety +11

      I agree with this comment. Now I am never happy with my coffee ☕️. Bailey’s seems to balance it out though no matter how hard or soft my water is.

  • @EliasDaniMusic
    @EliasDaniMusic Před 5 lety +2296

    Making my morning coffee looks more like I'm cooking meth now

    • @itchykami
      @itchykami Před 5 lety +202

      @Sam 2018 Ever try making meth in a french press? It's the worst.

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss Před 5 lety +73

      Haha. Breaking Bad's sequel, "Breaking Crust".

    • @darkpatches
      @darkpatches Před 5 lety +12

      James' Baby Blue Mountain coffee is 99.1% pure. Fun fact: He makes his coffee and these videos wearing only tighty-whities.

    • @jarnozondag694
      @jarnozondag694 Před 5 lety +3

      @@ericpmoss Breaking Crust: Smells great

    • @mark-davidchandler5895
      @mark-davidchandler5895 Před 5 lety +19

      atleast you didn't say "my meth cooking looks more like i'm brewing coffee now"

  • @tauronmaikar
    @tauronmaikar Před 4 lety +304

    Hello James,
    I think you have a very interesting experiment here. I am glad that at least some coffee experts are willing to test assumptions and shake (or break) old ideas!
    I believe the hard water bloom you observed has more to do with the pH of water than it’s hardness. This would be an easy one to experiment with, but first let me explain how I reached this conclusion.
    I am a chemical engineer and I have spent a considerable amount of time developing a process to convert biomass, such as wood, corn stover or bagasse, into more useful materials. Coffee (green, roasted, whole bean, ground, etc) is biomass too. All biomass contains basically the same stuff: cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin. There are other things in it, and to be sure in the case of coffee these other things are what makes coffee distinct and so flavorful. Yet, one-fifth of the mass of coffee bean is lignin.
    I did a series of filter-extraction experiments on lignin, which I had previously purified from woody biomass. It was clear that using water that was more alkaline in the extraction caused a dramatic blooming effect (swelling of grounds). In fact, a small increase in pH caused filtration to nearly stop (lignin became impermeable). On the other hand, neutral or slightly acidic water filtered through ground lignin without a problem.
    Lignin is a complex material that gives plant life its structural rigidity and protects it from the elements. I believe alkaline water makes lignin partially ionic, completely altering its filtration properties. Water hardness is not the same as water pH, but it is correlated, with harder water being more alkaline (higher pH). I would speculate that extracting coffee with hard water seems to increase blooming not because more CO2 is being pushed out of grounds, but merely because hard water affects the physical properties of coffee that have little to do with flavor. Indirectly, hard water makes filtration slower, which could lower the quality of the resulting cup of coffee.
    Cheers, love your videos!

    • @gyozakeynsianism
      @gyozakeynsianism Před 2 lety +11

      Excellent comment! Thank you!

    • @missamy3727
      @missamy3727 Před 2 lety +7

      Thank you for sharing with us your experience and professionality. It always feels exhilarating to be able to explain what you observe with scientific experiments.

    • @Mickeyella123
      @Mickeyella123 Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for your comment!

    • @drummeruptheirons
      @drummeruptheirons Před rokem +2

      Why would there be no difference then in the experiment with an extra 100ppm of bicarbonate? Would that not have a dramatic effect on the pH therefore causing more bloom in the 250ppm test?

    • @michaelsmith8954
      @michaelsmith8954 Před rokem

      Awesome comments and response!!! Your scientific insight not only reveals what is taking place in this experiment, but also how our human misconceptions can take us in seriously wrong directions.

  • @philipg8283
    @philipg8283 Před 5 lety +445

    Laying in bed about to go to sleep but wishing I could just stay up and experiment with coffee all day.

  • @lillyreid6525
    @lillyreid6525 Před 3 lety +76

    Noticed James hiding his bandaged finger and now I can’t unsee just how well he hides it throughout the entire video. What a man!

  • @halt.halt.halt.
    @halt.halt.halt. Před 5 lety +257

    '...the next video on the channel will be the V60 video' *screams in disbelief*

    • @Thebular.
      @Thebular. Před 5 lety +14

      Right??? I'm so excited for this, I've been waiting for it for so long!!!

    • @halt.halt.halt.
      @halt.halt.halt. Před 5 lety +7

      Thebular1337 I‘m not even in need for a pour over tutorial, but I‘m still hyped up thinking about the release given that we‘ve all been waiting for half an eternity. I guess Jim must be about to break CZcams with that 😂

    • @allenbercero3661
      @allenbercero3661 Před 5 lety

      TETSU KASUYA IS KING!

    • @fabduck9275
      @fabduck9275 Před 5 lety

      To be honest it turned me on as James held the kettle ....

    • @jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567
      @jamesb.ofdesertdistrict567 Před 4 lety

      *screams with pleasure*

  • @nichj487
    @nichj487 Před 5 lety +154

    James, the way you “set up” the brew during your ad was pretty cute. I would’ve enjoyed a bit more spoon sorcery, but this vid was still rad.

    • @snoober6690
      @snoober6690 Před 5 lety +8

      Call me a conspiracist but I'm beginning to think that James' spoon conjuration was just a big hoax.

    • @ScottPihl
      @ScottPihl Před 5 lety

      Definitely more spoon sorcery needed

  • @brandonbeardsley4684
    @brandonbeardsley4684 Před 5 lety +17

    This is definitely one of your best uploads. The editing was superb, the soundtrack was beautiful, and the way how you threw in your ad in the "setup" process was genius. Proud to be a patron James, keep up the great work!

  • @jamesrourke-dunkley8759
    @jamesrourke-dunkley8759 Před 5 lety +168

    A fairly sciency answer could be ionic strength I.e. in hard water there are generally more ions.
    My correlative hypothesis. During the blooming process some CO2 release from grounds becomes dissolved in the water prior to off gassing and some CO2 remains dissolved. The presence of other ions in the hard water cannot be displaced to gas and inhibit CO2 solubility making it off gas faster I.e bigger bloom.
    This could potentially explain the acidity change as well less dissolved CO2 could result in less formation of carbonic acid.

    • @johnpaubsanon1185
      @johnpaubsanon1185 Před 5 lety +9

      Thank you for the information, i tried both the procedure with my Bedhatu Ethiopia, and with hard water bloom it mutes some of the acidity and also the texture and gives me a lower tds compare to the soft water brew.

    • @BenJamin-en3jb
      @BenJamin-en3jb Před 4 lety +5

      @Parker Lindsey Interesting. I thought the water hardness wouldn't affect the gassing off of CO2, but instead helped form a more stable foam. I wouldn't worry about the purified water; the osmotic effect is not nearly as dangerous as the popular stories say.

    • @BrianBirdy
      @BrianBirdy Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the insightful comment !

    • @supernate223
      @supernate223 Před 4 lety +2

      This thread is great.

    • @taka8108
      @taka8108 Před 4 lety +2

      Maybe a bit outdated thread... But I find this theory quite convincing. I specifically think that the concentration of carbonate ion is determining.
      When CO2 dissolves in water, it forms carbonic acid, which (in my view) is one source of acidic taste in the coffee.
      H2O + CO2 H2CO3
      However, as hard water already contains a greater amount of carbonates than soft water, the equilibrium of this reaction is shifted more to the left side of the equation. That is, CO2 released from the coffee cannot dissolve in hard water to form carbonic acid.
      Regarding the experiment at 2:00, I guess150 ppm of bicarbonate was already enough to massively shift the equilibrium to the left. According to one paper, the solubility of CO2 in distilled water at a room temperature is about 77 ppm, when the gas contains 5% of CO2 (which is much much greater than in the air!). The solubility of a gas generally declines with increasing temperature, so I believe that the actual solubility of CO2 under the coffee blooming conditions is much lower than that.

  • @allkive
    @allkive Před 5 lety +7

    I liked this video for two main reasons, 1 - your style and apresentation are very pleasing to watch, good identity I always come back to the channel. 2 - When you apply the cientific thinking into the everyday situation you are making science at its finest, good job.

  • @Hooptniet
    @Hooptniet Před 5 lety +132

    As a control specifically for the bloom with harder water, you could bloom with softer water, and add the volume of harder water immediately after the bloom. Extraction between the two brews, and acidity of the total volume of water should be comparable, so then it's just the bloom.

  • @swamp-yankee
    @swamp-yankee Před 2 lety +12

    My old man worked in marketing for a coffee company in San Francisco in the late 60s right out of collage. They were making canned ground blended coffee, but the executives enjoyed drinking fresh ground single source coffee and blends to experiment with the flavors. My dad suggested they try selling little one pound bags of fresh roasted whole bean coffee so that customers could enjoy the same quality they drank in the office and he got laughed at. They told him the unwashed masses weren't sophisticated enough to appreciate coffee in that way. Now look how we buy coffee.... True story.

  • @patmisc
    @patmisc Před 5 lety +8

    Love the concept! This is like a deeper dive into coffee. I do know that type of water we use could affect brewing that is it. Heard of soft and hard water ('coz I purchased your book, haha) but never really understood it thoroughly. Looking forward to the next episode as always! 😊

  • @andres.napuri
    @andres.napuri Před 5 lety +18

    I started following your videos after you confirmed my position against swirling espressos. I am learning a lot with your work and curiosity. For the last three weeks, I watch one of your videos while I brew a pour over for breakfast. Thank you!

    • @rbmanb
      @rbmanb Před 3 lety +1

      What's that about not swirling espressos?
      Care to share?

    • @JensThestrupToft
      @JensThestrupToft Před 2 lety +1

      @@rbmanb Swirling doesn't mix the espresso as well as stirring with a spoon, and it makes a mess. That's the gist of it.

  • @geekbaristas2666
    @geekbaristas2666 Před 5 lety

    Oh wow, we need more of this stuff. We have a lot of pieces of information that we kinda have to put together to see what REALLY makes difference in coffee brewing and other areas in general. So, thank you James! Keep it up

  • @sonny9390
    @sonny9390 Před 5 lety +4

    I feel like James Hoffman fills his videos with as much cinematic shots as possible and I love them

  • @Riccardo_can
    @Riccardo_can Před 5 lety +5

    Love this, can't wait to see more. The one feedback, i'd love to see them longer!

  • @dirtychabely
    @dirtychabely Před 5 lety +4

    Love the intro of this new series! Our roastery is in a area of surprisingly hard water (for Dutch standards), but it is coming from high quality reserves of ground water. We filter (and soften) the water going to our espresso machine, but for pourovers, I have mixed feelings. Not all our origins necessarily benefit from using filtered water. But in our case we guess that the filtering is removing "nice" minerals and perhaps flattening out some coffees... but my guess is that we are fortunate and our tap water is high in magnesium and other minerals, but not in bicarbonates. Coming back to your experiment, as a business serving V-60's, we go frequently through the process of blooming and brewing with different waters due to logistics and rush periods. Mostly we refill the kettle with the 95C tap that goes through the filter, sometimes I fill it from the normal tap and let my bonavita do the heating (it doesnt fill nicely under the other tap ;-)). When doing multiples pourovers, I sometimes run out of water after rinsing filters and blooming (with hard water), and I quickly refill a kettle from the filtered tap. Even then, I personally dont notice an improvement. For delicate teas that's another story altogether and we only use filtered water.

  • @Tahn2035
    @Tahn2035 Před 5 lety +7

    all the science and theories aside, brewing part of the video was so beautifully done. really enjoyed it :)

  • @dyershov
    @dyershov Před 5 lety +1

    Love it. Everything: intro video, hypothesis, experiment, conclusions, the grand question "what if?". Thanks!

  • @krishdhruve1403
    @krishdhruve1403 Před 5 lety +63

    Another video with dope music from James the Demystifier

  • @exkonos32
    @exkonos32 Před 5 lety

    So happy to have read the description. Been waiting quietly and patiently for a V60 video for years!!

  • @twistedtenderness
    @twistedtenderness Před 5 lety +5

    Love the nerdiness, love the imagery. Oh, and you should consider doing voice work, audio books, etc.

  • @brightvalve
    @brightvalve Před 5 lety +6

    I love all the old footage at the start of this video

  • @brekkoh
    @brekkoh Před 4 lety +4

    "Let's uhhh let's do that then" this is the English delivery that keeps me coming back every vid.

  • @accesser
    @accesser Před 5 lety

    Fantastic production quality, love watching your videos during my lunch-break

  • @ej9806
    @ej9806 Před 5 lety

    YES! I have been waiting for a pour over tutorial from you for so long

  • @InsomniaticVampire
    @InsomniaticVampire Před 4 lety

    Im not even that interested in coffee, but hearing you talk about it makes it seem like the most interesting thing in the world. Love your enthusiasm.

  • @madras-ponnu
    @madras-ponnu Před 5 lety +3

    LOVE LOVE LOVE this series!!!

  • @jonathanhillis638
    @jonathanhillis638 Před 5 lety

    Love it. Thanks for starting this series!

  • @QawiemJamil
    @QawiemJamil Před 5 lety

    This. I like this. Absolutely brilliant idea for a series and also community-involved activity.

  • @kennyh1529
    @kennyh1529 Před 5 lety

    I think doing videos like this is a great new direction for you channel. Very interested to see what you come up with next!

  • @rbmanb
    @rbmanb Před 3 lety

    I love the intro.
    Also the beautiful close up shots during the pour over, although I have to say, interfering with the blooming phase by swirling ruined what could have been such a beautiful sight.

  • @petershirreffs6927
    @petershirreffs6927 Před 5 lety +3

    Very excited to see where this series goes, and a super interesting start. Can't wait to go through the comments and see others experiment, will join in on the action soon!

  • @nicolasfortin4216
    @nicolasfortin4216 Před 5 lety

    Excellent idea (and vid)
    That is exactly (idea behind the vid) why I've been following you since 2007.
    Cheers and keep thoses ideas and reflexion on coffee coming 😃

  • @allenbercero3661
    @allenbercero3661 Před 5 lety +1

    Now this is the type of content I've been looking for, will run some experiments!

  • @iREPda609
    @iREPda609 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm going to love this series

  • @benjaminbrew2911
    @benjaminbrew2911 Před 5 lety

    A great experiment and one that I’ve been wrestling with in rural Missouri in the states. I’ve noticed that I prefer my personal well water over the city water. So I experimented with distilled, Third Wave, City water, and Well Water. Now I water to do the same test while examining the bloom.

  • @suedfrucht44
    @suedfrucht44 Před 5 lety

    Great video! And I love the intro - brave new coffee science 🙌

  • @itchykami
    @itchykami Před 5 lety

    Good video, hope your finger heals nicely! I will never have the patience to make ideal coffee with the level of detail that you are using, but this is all very interesting.

  • @cassia_cries
    @cassia_cries Před 5 lety +30

    almost relieved to hear after many years brewing with soft Edinburgh water and being vaguely concerned it never seemed to bloom like the youtube videos 😂
    ... Great intro btw 👍

  • @mrdunu7340
    @mrdunu7340 Před 5 lety

    Interesting series and video! Would love a comparison video between updosing vs grinding finer, keeping time constant in both espresso and filter coffee. Keep up the good work James! :)

  • @evanbrorby
    @evanbrorby Před 5 lety +3

    I am so excited for the v60 video!!!!

  • @CannedLaughter00
    @CannedLaughter00 Před 5 lety

    Simply amazing watching your thoughts and experiments

  •  Před 5 lety +3

    Hi James, awesome idea for a series. As a chemical engineer doing his PhD on delicate chemistry this series certainly blends my passion for coffee with my curiosity to discover the chemistry behind it. This particular video touches upon an issue I had while brewing. I live in Portugal in a region with typically softer water, but have been living for the last few months abroad in a region with clearly harder water. Although I didn't notice the difference in bloom volume, I did notice that brewing with harder water does tend to overextract and, additionally, mask the finer aromas of a particular batch of coffee. What is your opinion on this? Your brewing experiment here was certainly interesting, but what about adding a third brew with just hard water and compare the results? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Keep up the great work!

  • @mondoc7976
    @mondoc7976 Před 5 lety +13

    right off the bat James, hard water is going to affect PH which in return affects acidity, so there's part of the answer as to why one had more "acidic bite" over the other.

    • @spencersherman4763
      @spencersherman4763 Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely a possibility but not a certainty. Hard water doesn't automatically mean pH greater than 7. You can have a fair amount of dissolved Calcium in water with a pH of 5 or 9. If the calcium in his hard water source is from dissolved Calcium Carbonate, then that would indeed increase the pH and reduce the acidity. He should do some analysis on the water to see what's actually in it instead of just saying "hard water"

  • @sirsergio1989
    @sirsergio1989 Před rokem

    I love your videos! Professional, lovely and practical! You are my coffee guru!

  • @billybobbobilly100
    @billybobbobilly100 Před 5 lety

    I LOVE THIS KEEP THIS SERIES GOING

  • @TheSpeedracer1982
    @TheSpeedracer1982 Před 3 lety +1

    I don’t know what a bloom is, so thanks for starting with that.

  • @MegaEagleHeart
    @MegaEagleHeart Před 5 lety +1

    Hi, James! I tried to set up your experiment, but with one more cup: mix together hard and soft water. Same amounts like in cup with hard water bloom.
    Taste quite similar to cup with hard water bloom.

  • @Klektic
    @Klektic Před 5 lety +6

    Could dump the bloom water before brewing the rest.
    Really interesting video. I'd never thought about this. :)

    • @TheoSmith249
      @TheoSmith249 Před 3 lety

      That's what I do. LOL!! I definitely notice a diff.

  • @busydadscooking001
    @busydadscooking001 Před 4 lety +3

    I love the "nuclear physics" type opening. I like to think at this stage I have at least an OK grasp of cooking, yet making consistently good coffee in small batches continues to be a daily struggle :D

  • @errgo2713
    @errgo2713 Před 5 lety

    I love this series already.

  • @alecbailey7235
    @alecbailey7235 Před 5 lety

    Love this new series!

  • @falableenglishacademy3903

    Love the concept ! 😍

  • @jamadio
    @jamadio Před 5 lety

    Great video and great idea! I hope to see many more of these weird science videos.
    I noticed the lighting has changed. I thought it was a little too harsh on this video and that the softer lighting is better. Just my two cents.

  • @tristansmith3731
    @tristansmith3731 Před 5 lety

    Love watching your videos as I'm brewing coffee

  • @halvorseneirik
    @halvorseneirik Před 5 lety +1

    I definitely noticed bigger bloom/co2 with harder water. For example when I travel to USA there are very hard water in some states. Sometimes I have to downscale the amount of coffee I make in my Aeropress because it "blooms over".
    Inverted method: 16g coffee and 240g water works fine until the water is hard and I spill all over the kitchen counter...

  • @paranoidbeing1191
    @paranoidbeing1191 Před 4 lety

    Love this concept! Super interesting stuff.

  • @hillary7261
    @hillary7261 Před 5 lety

    This is very interesting. I will have to consider the idea on my next pour over.

  • @kamohelothateng6079
    @kamohelothateng6079 Před 5 lety +1

    A collab between James Hoffmann and Peter McKinnon would be fire🔥🔥🔥
    Both of you share the same love for coffee yet you both are so different.

  • @wm.jordandent9242
    @wm.jordandent9242 Před 5 lety +11

    James - there's a cool phenomena you might want to unfold. Dripping a little cold water in, towards the end of a Greek coffee brew, produces a tasty white crema. I could never understand why. The same effect is also achieved through lightly flicking a spoon around the edges, at the end of the brew. Wish we could chat all day about Greek coffee prep but for now I think this may be a cool angle for your science series.

  • @JoelRosenfeld
    @JoelRosenfeld Před rokem

    I love the cuts in the sponsor messages, where you add a new component for coffee brewing each time. Very cute and subtle.

  • @frogjunk
    @frogjunk Před 5 lety +1

    Hey James, your videos are great!! I love coffee, and your videos are very informative, I watched your videos on blooming and decided I should give that a try with my percolator drip coffee and turns out it makes your coffee way better from a percolator dip style coffee maker. You should talk about that! Just interrupt the brew after just submerging the beans in hot water then let it bloom and continue your drip.

    • @dreamervanroom
      @dreamervanroom Před 4 lety

      @This'n that I'm a little confused as to what you mean What is a percolator drio?
      How do you submerge the beans?
      How is this But you described different from a pour over method?
      My inquiring mind would like to know.

    • @frogjunk
      @frogjunk Před 4 lety

      @@dreamervanroom some coffees taste better when allowed to bloom in an electric drip percolator. Not all.

  • @MrRockso99
    @MrRockso99 Před 5 lety

    James, I’ve seen what is a perfectly good recipe for brewing in a Chemex at my home in Cincinnati (hard water) literally fail (clogged up the filter) at my parents house in Michigan where they have soft water. only time I’ve ever seen that, but this video reminded me of that experience.

  • @gooforscience4714
    @gooforscience4714 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a great science outreach video!

  • @alfonsocuiti
    @alfonsocuiti Před 5 lety

    I hope this series goes on! Very interesting

  • @benjamincarter6095
    @benjamincarter6095 Před 4 lety

    This was fascinating. More experiments please.

  • @phyllisriley1013
    @phyllisriley1013 Před 3 lety

    Can’t wait for more!!!

  • @gustavodinosaurio
    @gustavodinosaurio Před 5 lety +22

    Everyone: Please pour over video.
    James: ok, ok, pour over basics: Bloom... Oh boy...

  • @Omkarah
    @Omkarah Před 5 lety +4

    James, I think you should start with distilled water and add minerals to it creating some very hard water. Then mix that water with distilled water to achieve any ppm level you wish. Then you can test many different levels of hardness and compare. I use the following recipe:
    Potassium Bicarbonate @ 0.1g per 300 grams Distilled Water
    Magnesium Chloride @ 0.5g per 300 grams Distilled Water
    Calcium Sulfate @ 0.4g per 300 grams Distilled Water
    To just say use soft or hard water doesn't work for me, as there are too many variables. I have been using between 100 ppm and 150 ppm water to make espresso, using my Flair Espresso Maker and Kinu M47 hand grinder, and am pleased with the result. I find it amazing what one can feel when using all manual devices, as you don't get the feedback when using powered machines. I roast my own coffee, and even find differences in the espresso making experience because of the roast level or the coffee seeds themselves! With my tools I can dial it in very nicely, but there are still differences even when trying to do everything the same.

    • @KuniNishimura
      @KuniNishimura Před 5 lety +2

      This sounds like the more scientifically sound procedure to carrying out this experiment. To have evidence of sufficiency and necessity, you'd need to have trials adding and subtracting minerals.

  • @jakubchwieduk8775
    @jakubchwieduk8775 Před 5 lety

    Great video. From my experience relation between amount of bicarbonate/calcium/magnesium is really complex and hard to work out due to coffee degassing and slowly loosing it's ability to lower pH of the slurry.

  • @TripleDDDD
    @TripleDDDD Před 5 lety +4

    So we go even more geeky now?
    Love it!

    • @sriwahyanibudianingsih1534
      @sriwahyanibudianingsih1534 Před 5 lety +1

      We have to! That's why we watch James' videos in the first place, right? As well as watching Rao's and Perger's

  • @ericburnett8163
    @ericburnett8163 Před 5 lety +5

    I am all for this series! Love this idea, thanks for the hard work!

  • @antiwhatever5391
    @antiwhatever5391 Před 5 lety

    It would be pretty cool to see you “roast” beans in the Novu...lol just to get your thoughts! Love the videos awesome stuff!

  • @TricksArForKids
    @TricksArForKids Před 4 lety

    How does this channel not have at least 1mm subscribers? James is a legend.

  • @EldritchSleepMachine
    @EldritchSleepMachine Před 5 lety +5

    I tested this, James, and each time I scoured my press pot with metal cleaner so it was pristine without any oil residue, used separate clean metal filters + paper filters (I use paper as well as metal as the inclusion of paper cuts down on coffee "silt" and makes the cup more delicate to me), same extraction times, and the same bloom time. Hard water for the initial bloom makes a noticable difference, and as I don't like really acidic coffee, proved good to me. Also, bloom time matters a great deal...started out at 20 seconds...wasn't enough. Increased to 30, as well as stirring later on.

  • @LadyTigerLily
    @LadyTigerLily Před 5 lety +1

    A fascinating premise, James. I look forward to making some interesting observations, if not strictly "good science" tests next time I do a V60. ...Shh... do you hear that...?
    *Ground rumbles as the Socratic Coffee folks come stampeding in*

  • @matiasadrianmahler322
    @matiasadrianmahler322 Před 4 lety

    Nice audio design. And the editing is pretty good too :)

  • @Sartasm
    @Sartasm Před 5 lety +1

    A shop where I worked made cortado-size espresso drink where the shot was floated over cold milk and simple syrup.
    The espresso floated in different ways across the many dairy and non dairy milks and milk temperature also played a role. I think it's probably a sort of basic matter of density and maybe fat content but I'd love to see you lay it out in this kind of video

  • @explordition
    @explordition Před 5 lety

    This really shows the genius of the espresso machine: soft water, with the degassing taking place during extraction, but overcome by pressure to force the water close to the particle to extract a well rounded shot. It's like realizing that someone long ago ate the first artichoke and discovered the delicious heart, but you're still trying to figure out how to get all that hairy crap off of it first.

  • @weeliano
    @weeliano Před 5 lety

    Very interesting! I live in Singapore and we don't have hard water here, so I guess I'll never know the difference. I do roast my own green beans though. Maybe do a piece on coffee roasting? Enjoyed your most excellent videos!

  • @Coffeehome
    @Coffeehome Před 5 lety

    This is very interesting! I am starting from tommorrow!

  • @jrhxr7392
    @jrhxr7392 Před 5 lety

    I live in an area with really hard water and I mainly brew french press and AeroPress, I’ve noticed that it generally depends on how grind the coffee ☕️

  • @GaryMcGimp
    @GaryMcGimp Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! It would make sense to taste the coffee blind though, to remove the possibility of unconscious bias.

  • @alexkaplan6653
    @alexkaplan6653 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi James, really enjoyed this video but I have one major request for future experiments: please taste them blind!
    I cringed a bit when you explained the effect that the hard water was having and how it aligned with our preconceived notions of hard water brewing. In the future, if you were to taste the coffees without knowing which one was which, your stated results may be more indicative of the coffees' differences rather than our preconceptions.
    Thanks a lot and I'm looking forward to more of these in the future!

  • @DanMars27
    @DanMars27 Před 5 lety +4

    I love how you hid a V60 tutorial in here ... swirling the bloom, eh? ... you must have the older V60 papers ... you do! ... the fluff on those grinds is incredible

  • @StuziCamis
    @StuziCamis Před 5 lety +9

    Here's an idea! One of these episodes could be a collaboration with Cody's Lab or NileRed or someone of that nature, that would be awesome!
    Also...you might get a load of new subs, the amateur scientists who watch those video, I can guarantee, are avid coffee drinkers ;)

  • @zakariyyagardee8934
    @zakariyyagardee8934 Před 5 lety +3

    Finally get to see you doing a pourover. I have a no coffee from the late afternoon onwards rule, and those stunning visuals have me eager to run back to my V60 and brew a cup up. Thanks James.

  • @bradzune
    @bradzune Před 5 lety +1

    Actually did this type of experiment a while back. I use tap water typically, its a little hard but the TDS and mineral content is very good. I also purchased some of the third wave water stuff to try, out of curiosity. While the water did taste softer and a little tastier in my opinion and taste, it actually flattened out the coffee quite a bit, almost made it duller. It had a little bit of the prickly acidity that you mentioned with the soft water only brew but beyond that it just didn't taste as full. Course I could be just conditioned for the harder water at this point. The hard water just tasted fuller and had a larger range of notes. I will have to try the blooming with hard water and brewing with soft water some time. My real question is does it matter all that much the size of bloom when brewing?

  • @geremyuscamayta3793
    @geremyuscamayta3793 Před 5 lety

    This blew my mind because a few weeks ago I was experimenting a bit with my Aeropress and noticed that it was better to start the bloom with hotter water and then continue brewing with a less hot water. 😅

  • @onlybythecross1841
    @onlybythecross1841 Před 4 lety

    Love your back ground instrumentals James

  • @jayjackson597
    @jayjackson597 Před rokem +1

    I primarily use coffee as a companion to certain things I like to eat with it, breakfast, pastry, etc. I use tap water with drip and our hard water does fine for that, I use a refillable Keurig cup when I need speed, and I have to use bottled water for that, so the latter for just drinking unless I'm pressed for time for using with food

    • @jayjackson597
      @jayjackson597 Před rokem +1

      so now I have the hard bloom to play around with, I'm retired so what better to do with my time?❤

  • @tpowfjb
    @tpowfjb Před rokem

    Nicely done!

  • @jovanbergh33
    @jovanbergh33 Před 4 lety +10

    This makes sense because the acidity in coffee is probably reacting with whatever pH buffers that are contributing to the hardness of the water.
    Edit: Lack of acidity confirms my suspicions, the extra bloom is more than likely a byproduct of the acid-base reaction that is taking place with the coffee and buffer.

  • @muhammadrizkyanugraha
    @muhammadrizkyanugraha Před 5 lety

    It's always a pleasure to watch your video

  • @peepeepoopoo3324
    @peepeepoopoo3324 Před 5 lety

    I love James Hoffman so much

  • @alexi8052
    @alexi8052 Před 5 lety

    The intro is amazing!

  • @ngkasp
    @ngkasp Před 5 lety +34

    The coffee industry in 2030: all espresso machines have two water lines and shots are pulled using "hardness profiles"

    • @tikibont
      @tikibont Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah and you can choose your water from the menu/counter

  • @mrtiger1833
    @mrtiger1833 Před 5 lety +1

    I love this idea! Ordering my graduated cylinder now.