How can Disney prove you’re lying about getting a DAS pass?
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- The Disney DAS pass at Disney world and Disneyland has a lot of people upset. Disney said that they will ban anyone who lies about there condition in order to obtain a Disability pass (DAS pass). But, can they prove you’re lying. What happens when you get a lifetime ban?
My friend is legally blind (less than 10%vision) and uses her white cane at Disney World and always has someone escorting her. She has had the disability pass 10-14 years. Recently she was DENIED the DAS. She was told she can go sit and wait while her escort goes through the line and when escort gets to front, she can rejoin escort. HOW can she rejoin her escort if escort can not get out of line to get her??? The doctors say she is disabled but unqualified Disney interviewer says she does not qualify anymore. Oh, and the online interview you have to sign you will not participate in class action suit if you are denied pass. Of course you say ok because you know there is a REAL disability and no need to sue, then, BAM!!! Denied by WDW interviewer.
The change to DAS for those who legitimately need it is sad. I have Ulcerated Colitis, and my daughter Lupus. Long waits in sun is dangerous for my daughter and risky for me without giving out TMI. And their answer to not come on a sunny day or to get out of line to run to the restroom is not practical for those who have mobility issues.
I just dont care about Disney anymore. The magic has left and I will not return until it does.
My biggest issue and concern I have with this new DAS is that Disney makes a profit and benefits from promoting they support our military and our veterans. In fact Disney has posted new photos in promotion of Tiana's Bayou Adventure showing her dad in a military uniform. People are absolutely loving it!! Cheering Disney on for supporting our troops. What does Disney do? DENY VETERANS AND COMBAT VETERANS ALIKE. who have lPTSD, Mental Health issues, and other combat related injuries and disabilities they have obtained thru their time in service. Disney is telling veterans, families of children with Autism, Down syndrome and other disabilities to practice waiting in line, and to not come to the park when it's hot. THIS IS OUTRAGEOS, and what's even worse is all the people online that are targeting disabled body people. Something needs to change, and I feel if Disney is exposed for discriminating against people with disabilities simply to make money off of their Genie+ program could be a serious allegation and lawsuit against Disney.
Lol..WTF is WRONG with you? Let us know when you LEAVE FANTASY LAND
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If more people thought like you about things like this at Disney then there would have probably been no need for Disney to changes things even as far as services for guests with disabilities period from the get go. I will say that anything that is not behind a paywall at Disney like the DAS Pass is not a money maker for Disney.
With that I will say to make a long story short that as a Disney Fan myself, it gives me a breath of fresh air to see a vlogger at Disney informing the public and who encourages proper prospective on things. Thank you so much for that and keep doing what you are doing.
You are the man and a true Disney Fan.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your feedback.
As a disabled person this makes me mad
Disney has always threatened bans for abuse of DAS. The only way they can really prove it is for the people who publicly brag about it. The best way to avoid it is just not to be a terrible person and not abuse it, it ruins it for the people that actually need it.
I agree, the new DAS system is terrible and a lot of my friends got denied,they used it before without a problem ,same with me. I’ve used the system because of my medical condition and I’ve never had a problem renewing it. I haven’t tried out the new system. Hopefully, I get approved. But I also agree that if they go back to the three free fast pass system, they wouldn’t have this problem.
Great video, Jason. I appreciate that you and Melody are addressing and tackling the hard, important topics because if we don't talk about it, it never gets better. Can't wait for next video.
I appreciate that!
Half the people online say they have extreme anxiety. Good luck, Disney. I think you’re right, it should require a doctor’s note.
DAS being so open and easy to get from the onset was a bad decision; the number of social media personalities I've seen in the past encouraging people to abuse the old DAS was sickening. Seen so many people now posting they can no longer get it that need it and really should have access to it. I'm right there with you on it, should've required a physician's input from the onset and would've avoided this issue.
My daughter used to livestream at Disney and she wouldn’t dare use the DAS as she is thankful to be blessed with good health. But her viewers used to tell her to say she has anxiety to get it so she wouldn’t have to wait in line during her livestreams. Just awful!
But this new version is too much in my opinion, and is borderline ignoring ADA
@@iloveowls90 actually it is does not interfere with ADA compliance. It has always been a courtesy, not a requirement.
@@iloveowls90 I sure their lawyers went over the rules very carefully as what is allowed.Problem is you are making the decision for anything and they are following the ada rules
I think the real issue is how the DAS pass works. For instance of someone without any problem gets a pass then they get to ride twice the rides or more.
You put in the app to wait for say a 2hr long line for a big ride. Then you go wait in another line and ride rides until the 2 hr wait is over and repeat over and over.
If Disney reformed this to have a nice waiting area near the ride with access to water, shade or AC, food, and bathrooms and you had to wait there for the 2hrs or however long the wait is, no on would abuse it.
You get to ride the same number of rides as everyone else, yyiu have access to anything you need such as food or bathrooms, water fountains for taking meds etc.
If the only benefit is sitting comfortablely rather than standing in line and for some rides standing in the heat and sun. Then people wont really try to get the pass.
Seems the the most fair and simple thing to fix the problem.
The pass has been abused for years, if you have genuine disabilities you should have to apply with a doctors certificate before you travel, otherwise you queue like everyone else has to do.
Honesty, Its not Disney Fault for making this change. All the past people who actually lied, cheated and got away with it done this.
How many of you can actually not say, you stood in line and suddenly a group of 6 people in those motorized scooters zip past you, running your toes over and get in line ahead of you, along with 8 of there family members.
only then when the scooter people, Leave!! but the family members stay.
This was pretty well done! I definitely see this, and you put forward some good points. Disney does probably have points with some policies, but they should be turning to *legal* or *profesional* definitions of disability rather than just their perception. Big lawsuit material right there.
I think people who lie about their condition or exaggerate them just to get the DAS pass, yes, they should be banned. People with disabilities already have enough challenges, to see some services be removed because able-people are taking advantage of it is just nasty
We normally would have a doctor wrote a letter stating my daughter’s limitations and reasoning for the DAS pass.
I have a question, if they are those with mobility issues to wait in line. What if you have mobility issues? How are they accommodating those who need extra time to get on a ride or can't go on the stairs on the rides where there are stairs ?
Went to Disneyland in 1966. My dad all crippled up from arthritis... the cast members were the best !!! Now he couldnt ride the matterhorn .. but yes we waited in line when my dad didnt ride ... he loved the jungle cruise .. and yes they helped him on and off ... thosevwere the best days
My wife has had 5 foot surgeries 6 coming up we have always got a scooter there but never the das pass, her medical file is over 2500 pages and counting we will try to get that das pass next time we go, we have medical documentation,we surely do not want to be trespassed for any reason
Well, I’m not really worried. Me and my family are POSSIBLY going to park-hop next year in April. We actually leave any park WAY before it closes.
SeaWorld and Busch Gardens has a Ride Accessibility Program that works like a virtual queue. You get a return time equal to the standby wait. When the time is right you get to go through the quick que line, but you already waited the regular wait.
Yeah… you just explained DAS.
This was the last freaking straw for me. I held out hope for years Disney would get better and my family is fortunate enough to have money to go to Disney, but now that they’re stooping to charging disabled people for basic accommodations there’s no way I’m supporting their decaying parks. I myself am a physically disabled person and I know lots of disabled people who will be negatively impacted by this change. Yet when I raise my voice I’ve been attacked by other Disney fans telling me I should stop whining or just buy genie plus. It’s utterly repulsive especially when Universal has shown they have a disability service that works, but Disney won’t do it cause it takes time and money to get certified and they wouldn’t be able to charge disabled people for genie plus. Screw you disney you soulless beast of capitalism.
Great content brother
They cant ask medical records so how else can they prove it.
I have mutltiple medical and nuro issues and now I'm super stressed out about these das changes. I hate that they won't let us just submit paperwork to prove it.
Video only has 94 views as I write this but it deserves way more, keep making good videos and you'll make some nice money man
Working on it! Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
WTF? NO it DOESN'T
I would rather sue The Walt Disney Company
@@toddcribbs6844 waste of money and likely case dismissed
This is deeply unfortunate, I was looking forward to being able to get myself and my dada dass pass for Disney because of our conditions, my dad being wheelchair bound after a car accident and myself being born flat footed with my tibia and fibia shattered in an accident I too can't walk nor stand for more then 5 minutes without my feet swelling up and I became bed bound for 1-3 days depending on the severity of the agony and swelling, so to avoid it i also use a wheelchair, , so the fact that they are rejecting dass passes for people with down syndrome (please correct me if I sprlt thst wrong I'll fix it) is deeply concerning and upsetting that people who trulyly need it are bring rejected.
I have 3 grandkids that need das pass we've never had problems with getting them. They all have issues and there is no way they can stAnd in line. I really makes me mad if people aren't disabled and try to get them
I have not ridden Tower of Terror- too chicken- but I do not know how anyone can release themselves during the ride. Everyone who has been on a Disney ride knows the routine . They ask you to pull on the famous yellow strap hanging from the seatbelt to prove that you are strapped in. Also, anyone who has tried to release themselves at the end of the ride but before before the CM says to do it finds out- the seat belt will not release until the CM releases it and allows you to unbuckle yourself.
Too chicken? Lol..
This is not new. In the past I was given an official formal to read. What actually read: Due to abuse and exploitation, we are forced to apply strict rules. With sick and handicapt. This is from 10/ 15yrs back or so.
I have disabilities I have seizures I would rather sue the Walt Disney Company instead of buying an annual pass
Why waste your time and theirs.Go somewhere else
@@ronaldeaton652 yeah, who cares about fighting for what’s right?
Good luck. You will be buried in legal paperwork for decades. Disney has a team of fierce lawyers who know what they are doing. Trust me, they have already covered their based before implementing this.
You only have seizures when you stand in lines?
And waste your time the parks,time and the courts time
It is sad that people would lie, but I think they have made a poor choice and it is motivated by money. My child would no longer qualify and unfortunately we have a non refundable DVC rental for our next trip which could be our last. I would be happy to provide a basic note from their pedi but as of now that won't help. I still intend to speak with pedi at the next visit in case they move to a system where a doc note will work. Our trip is not until March 2025 so hoping things will change. We are a family of 5 (3 minors) and I feel like they are trying to punish larger families with party size restrictions- i have seen reports of people being told they can leave kids in standby line over the age of 7 and the DAS holder and parent can go thru LL- these are self reported and we know people like to exaggerate, but that is not ok with me. And why is autism/developmental issues more an issue than a kid that has medical issues. It seems highly specific and discriminatory. I have all my notes about they whys and what happens to my child but at this point with all the hate out there and the stress of it I'm not sure I want to be questioned in a way that makes me feel like I am doing something wrong. In the end I think it just comes down to money- people hate Genie + and this is their way to force them into purchasing.
They should just require the disabled parking placard registration and the license/ID to match
I am sure the proof is a message to the vloggers and livestreamers who have been taking advantage for years - even when we had free fast passes. Their deeds are out there for all to see.
Bring your papers. I use the DAS for my son.. The first time I went I actually brought the papers to Disneyland. If you have Nothing to hide who cares. But that's just me I guess
So does that mean, since I have ADHD and Autism that I’d qualify for a disability pass? I mean, I have documentation from numerous Drs if they need to see it. I can pull up my patient portal on my phone. Sorry, I’m not fully clear on the whole disability services thing and what qualifies and what doesn’t.
You don’t need medical records but be prepared to explain specific symptoms that make it hard/impossible to wait in line.
@@lauramontgomery4674 Good to know. This actually gave me an idea. I’m having spinal surgery this week so, when I am clear to travel again, I can just say I had spinal surgery and can’t stand for long periods. Thanks!!
No. Just because you have that diagnosis doesn't mean you qualify. You have to be able to explain why you cannot wait in a traditional queue with everyone else and why you'd need to wait in a non-traditional way, in a quiet area or outside the line. It's not a way to skip the line. You still have to wait, you just wait outside of the regular line to help accommodate specific needs. You have to explain how that works for you, you can't compare yourself to others or try to use generic symptoms. NOt everyone with the same diagnosis has the same symptoms or needs. FOr example, my goddaughter has Autism. She struggles with a lot of things, but oddly enough, she LOVES lines at Disney. She loves the pre-show experience and absorbs all of the trivia and decorations. She has developed a deep trove of Disney trivia that she loves to discuss with anyone and everyone in those lines -- to the point that she will often annoy people. LOL. When they try to utilize DAS with an attraction that she likes, she goes nuts and demands to go in the "real" line. She qualifies for DAS because she has been known to cause disruptions in lines by being too friendly. Heh. That's not typical, of course. That's how it presents with her. She's the kind that fixates on topics and can become an expert quickly.
Point being, everyone is different and DAS is case by case. It's been abused lately by people who were using fairly controlled medical isues as a reason to avoid the lines --- conditions that, IMO, were total BS. I know a woman who has Crohns/IBS. She also has a colostomy bag. She and her family used that as a reason to get DAS because they thought it was a way to skip lines. That's how they treated it. Fact is, her condition was well controlled and she could wait in lines just fine. She hasn't had any major issues with her conidtion for years. She's otherwise quite healthy, is into running and yoga. She was totally abusing the system, but because she claimed to have a disability that prevented her from waiting in lines, which she does, they gave it to her. She didn't need it, but she claimed she did just in case she had to run to the restroom in an emergency. She ran (like RAN) in the January 5k at Disneyland this past January. I guess she didn't think Disney would notice. When her DAS expired and she tried to apply again in February, she was denied immediately. They had video and photos (that she saved to her Disney account) of her in the big crowd and of her running the whole way.
SHe was furious and claimed she was being discriminated against. LOL. She actually went to three different attorneys who all told her she was lucky they didn't issue her a ban or trespass warning. All the did was permanently revoke her ability to obtain or use DAS, either for herself or connected to another DAS user. Fact is, she was absolutely abusing the system by asking for accommodations she didn't need. There is no blanket accommodation for every disabled person, or even groups of people under any specific diagnosis.
Disney is trying to accommodate each person based on their needs. Or so they say... I could write a book of issues with their system as a disabled person myself. Things most able bodied an neurotypical people don't even think about.
@@valn0726 That isn't necessarily going to work, citing what I have been reading. You are more likely going to be told to rent a mobility device.
That’s a good point. I didn’t realize that. I can walk. I just need breaks and can’t stand for more than 15 minutes. They don’t give you a come back time anymore? Someone told me they did that but, again, this was pre-covid.
0:21 Yeah right. Just a imagine Lazy people taking away services from people that are truly disabled that actually need the additional help.
I Never saw that happen before in America 🙄
Easy, they can prove. Let’s say you go up and say your child is autistic. You get a DAS. You then go and ride after ride after ride is an E ride. You get an autistic child on 24 E rides a day, how do they know, your on DAS, your DAS is connected to your MDE. A child who now qualifies for a DAS has to have specific symptoms. If you have a ND or autism diagnosis, you have sensitivity to lights, loud noises, confusion situations, a lot of sensory overload. Most children who would need a DAS are saying they can’t stand in lines, they can’t stay in the parks for 12 or 14 hours without complete meltdown downs. So if you say all this get a DAS, and use it for your trip, Disney can pull up the DAS pass and see you did 14 E rides for 7 days I. A row from morning to night, and now 1220 or 180 days later your asking again, they are going to question how much you really need it. It is hard for Disney to look it up, not they can not look up almost anything, your reservations, if you have a das, how often you used that das, what rides you used it on, and if it makes no sense to them, they will question you, they may not tell you and give you a pass again and then call security and say go and watch, they have a DAS at this ride at this time, what does it look like, is the child having melt downs, can the child walk, is the child moving about as “normal” or as disabled. Is (sorry can’t say because it’s one,of the symptoms) remember there is now only a few symptoms they allow for DAS, yeah maybe not at every ride you may not see it, but if the child who is way over stimulated does not show those signs within a few day every, you lied and they will have video, first hand reports from security and evidence. They don’t have to catch everyone, they only have to catch one or two people, to send a clear message, that we are done allowing people to lie about disabilities.
That’s not how the DAS works. With some rides being listed as over an hour, there isn’t enough time to go on 24 rides in a single day.
If you have the DAS, like I did, you wait the full amount of time quoted for the Standby lines, then the amount of time in the Lightning Lanes. You just wait somewhere else. Overall, you end up waiting longer than anyone in the Standby queue because Disney inflates their wait times by approximately 20-25 minutes for their “E Ticket” attractions.
I think disney is right. It's ridiculous how many Americans think they are "entitled" been to Paris Disney,Tokyo Disney, and several times to the US parks. You don't see more than 1 scooter at the foreign parks. Get up and walk and stand in line. If you are so sick, maybe you shouldn't be at a theme park. Can't believe what has happened to our country.
That’s very short sited of you. You have no idea what’s going on with peoples health. I have leukemia and don’t know how long I have to live. So by your stance, I should sit at home doing nothing until I die. I’m just as entitled as you to try an enjoy what’s left of my life. To look at me you would judge me as a fat person to lazy to walk but the truth is I’m gained 75 pounds from meds I had to take, my legs are to weak to walk very far and I have a type of exhaustion you couldn’t imagine. All I’m saying is you shouldn’t judge others when you don’t know their story. I’m not entitled, I just want to live every moment to the fullest without judgement!
@raleighrobinson6399 sorry to hear that, but if they made those allowances then the lightning lane will be longer than the regular lane because of all the health issues out there. I haven't seen these issues at the foreign dusney parks.
I'm not sure what this has to do with people feeling "entitled," but it does have a lot to do with people being physically able to enjoy the parks. So, sorry Make-a-Wish kids...Jim doesn't want you at the Disney parks.
@@SchaffnerMatt make a wish kids automatically get the assistance as they should. Otherwise, if you are only in your 40's and are too fat to want to lose weight so you think you need a scooter, you are the problem. You don't find this in France or Japan.
@@jimandcheritravels So, sick and injured kids should all get the DAS pass, right? What about adults? Veterans? What do age and weight have to do with individuals who have trouble queueing because of illness or injury?
Not high functioning does not mean you can't stand online like everybody else let's get real now.
And how would you know, pal? Don't be rude.
I don't know about standing online, but the issue is standing in a line.
There property their rules
Not when they’ve violated the ADA.