The Phantom Pharaoh
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Dead... and yet, not dead.
Thumbnail art by Ida (x.com/ncdraw?s=20)
Sesostris art by Duc de Vinny (x.com/DucDeVinny?s=20)
Original music by Ryan Probert ( / @probecomposer )
Citations
Alan Lloyd (30 August 2007). "Book II". In Moreno, Alfonso; Murray, Oswyn; Brosius, Maria (eds.). A Commentary on Herodotus Books I-IV. OUP Oxford.
Hawkins, J. D. (1998). Tarkasnawa King of mira ‘tarkondemos’, Boǧazköy Sealings and Karabel. Anatolian Studies, 48, 1-32. doi.org/10.2307/3643046
Herodotus. (2015). The Histories: (Penguin Classics Deluxe Edition). (T. Holland, Trans.). Penguin Books.
How, W. W., & Wells, J. (1989). A Commentary on Herodotus. Oxford University press.
Strupler, N. (2023). ‘Vandalizing’ Father hittite. Karabel, Orientalism and Historiographies. Cambridge Archaeological Journal, 33(3), 477-497. doi.org/10.1017/s095977432200... - Věda a technologie
*edit, I realize I pronounced Sesostris wrong. I only realized it after the fact. I’m dyslexic and will be kicking myself over it for the rest of time. I tried very hard on this video and I’ll do better next time. Thanks.
The next video should be my 1 million subscriber special...so stay tuned!!
Special thanks to:
Thumbnail art by Ida (x.com/ncdraw?s=20)
Sesostris art by Duc de Vinny (x.com/DucDeVinny?s=20)
Original music by Ryan Probert (www.youtube.com/@ProbeComposer)
Btw where’s your ”realistic aliens” video?:(
What there's some undiscovered animals that look like dinosaurs. Or living dinosaur that aren't recognized
That civil war time pterodactyl photo has feather's witch is a recent discovery
The Arizona pterodactyl photo has feather's on it
@@cactilainen4301 it might be copyright claimed. I’m not sure. I’ll have to check.
I ain't gonna lie, "The Phantom Pharaoh" sounds like a Scooby Doo special
I was not expecting you to be here.
My buddy Miles helped me with the title lol
Also sounds like it could be a pretty sick Egypt themed Prince of Persia-like game
I would watch it
@@Gogurtbumptss, assassins creed origins. Don't tell anybody
The fact that medieval scribes wrote fanfiction about their favourite conquerors and passed it as fact is amazing
Imagine having a favourite conquerer.
Anti-imperialism gang represent
@@jacobscrackers98 Modern day morals.
@@Based_Gigachad_001 yea I'm sure the people who got conquered were happy with it actually
@@jacobscrackers98
Imagine not having a favorite one
“Don’t judge the past by present day morals” gang
@@Dell-ol6hb
It doesn’t matters at all
It was them or it was you, conquer or be conquered, and honestly, the average person didn’t really cared that much, it was the nobles
It's interesting seeing how a large portion of ancient Egyptian history was already mythological and obscure by the time of Herodotus
We're closer in time to Herodotus than Herodotus was to Khufu, the builder of the Great Pyramide ˆˆ
Hahaha this idiot thinks ONE carving found equates to the name of the pharaoh.
You do know the timeline for the “Khufu” pyramid is based on ONE carving with that name, right? Riiiight?
@@krankarvolund7771 Between us and Herodotus is about ~2500 years. Between Herodotus and Khufu is ~2100 years. So no. Herodotus isn't closer to us and Khufu.
@@justastamasevicius414but we are closer to trex than trex was to stegosaurus. At least
@@TheHortomantrex was pretty cool
"It was meant to be a truthful account of the life of Alexander" "They fight a giant crab"
God I love medieval historians
"Battles from actual history" "Here's this giant enemy crab".
@@NovaSaber
Giant crabs improve everything.
@@alanpennie boys we found the fromsoft employee
but did they attack its weak point for massive damage?
@@Sintoolkicks They didn't even record what loot it dropped smh
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." - Herodotus
1st rule of politics
"The Persians suck" -Also Herodotus
"Gottem'"
-Herodotus the troll
"4 Score and 2,000 years ago I made a lot of shit up and fooled literally everyone." -Herodotus
@@marcelszpak1460 czcams.com/users/shortsTzILk8LlDns
29:30 This is actually a huge problem in Turkey. There are lots of Turkish "treasure hunters" pillaging undocumented or obscure medieval and ancient sites in search of gold and riches. A common myth is that somehow Armenians who once lived in Turkey (don't ask the treasure hunters why they don't anymore) hid huge hordes of treasure in their abandoned churches and homes. You can guess what happens next.
"don't ask the treasure hunters why they don't anymore" lol
@@Game_Hero
Anyone who's read that very strange story, The Road to Endor (which Neil Gaiman has been trying to turn into film for many years) will know that hunting for treasure buried by Armenians was a popular hobby immediately after the genocide.
Don’t ask Turkey about the Armenian Genocide that didn’t happen.
@@LieutenantDangleBerries Nothing happened in Ba Sing Se.
"Nothing happened to the Armenians, and if it did they deserved it"
-turkish treasure hunter probably
God, it was devastating to hear invaluable artifacts were destroyed to make way for a fucking road.
People of a certain religious following do it to this day, to destroy a false idol; Afghanistan blew up those several thousand year old Buddhist statues in what, 2005? The 1980s is way too late in history to be so ignorantly disrespectful to such artifacts, but it's in Turkey. It's how the Spinx lost its nose; they strapped explosives to its face. If it didn't bring in such revenue I'm sure they'd hammer the rest of it to dust, in between bowing towards Mecca.
...to be conveniently sold?
The professor of my Middle Eastern studies class in college said Herodotus wrote some of the first written historical records but to what he says with a grain of salt, like saying he saw giant ants the size of foxes who would dig up gold dust-- he's actually described Himalayan marmots, who sometimes get coated in gold dust as they dig through the soil.
Giant spiders in the size of foxes in the desert 😂
Not to mention the flying snakes which he stated crossed the Egyptian Desert every year- he even claimed to have seen piles of their dead bodies while on tour in the region!
Also the gold guarding griffons and the one eyed Arimaspians. But Abaris traveling around the world with an arrow and never eating was apparently too much for him to consider discussing.
first hystorian?
more like the first author of magical realism
García Márquez be dammed
@@matheussanthiago9685your spaniard is a nobody, fool
I think it's important to point out that Herodotus most likely was not a liar or a buffoon, as some people make him out to be. I think he was, as most people were back then, deeply superstitious- who believed in the ancient myths of demi gods and monsters. And so when someone from a faraway land tells him that there are ants the size of dogs that dig up gold, and there's no way to fact-check these claims, he probably believed it- probably because the person telling him the tale also believed it, as he was likely also deeply superstitious.
When the idea of a god holding the sky seems obvious, giant ants is honestly not that weird
Are we going to call the monks who wrote about naval battles liars for saying that it was god who gave the winds in favor and not mention the climate cycle?
Id like to believe that some of the people he met just genuinely fucked with him just cause he was a tourist
It seems to me like many of the strange claims he made are because he’s not trying to investigate or fact check things like more modern historians, but instead is simply documenting as much as he can. It’s not that he’s necessarily taking things at face value, more that he’s writing down the stories as told to him. The stranger things like giant ants seem like he’s trying to describe how things *appear*, not what they *are*.
He was just a little stitious. Mostly just gullible. Oh gawd. Herodotus is the Michael Scott of historians.
He was what the modern day vloggers are
“Kinda right but also mostly wrong” is a great way to summarize Herodotus.
It was an honor to be a part of the video and do all those doodles
The honor was all mine! Thank you so much :)
They're hilarious. Chad Sesostris gave me a giggle.
Great work, truly! I've missed that sort of style and I'm glad to see it done well by an independent artist.
how is the comment 20h older than the vid
@@ollie96310 Trey let them see the video before we did, duh.
Imagine a future archaeologist finding recent superhero film memorabilia in a collection millennia from now and believing that Superman or Iron Man were actual living persons of our age.
it pains me so much to see the ending, what a tragedy. It just makes me wonder how many more historical pieces we've lost to vandalism over the centuries. Great video Trey!
True. They dont even know what theyre destroying, and all we could learn from it.
sometimes it was a new ruler wanting to retcon history a little by making themselves seem better.
some people are just assholes
Iconoclasm really needs to be recognized as the crime it is. I reckon it to be just as bad as murder or rape, probably even worse.
"As soon as he learns the hour of his death, from that moment on, he is as good as dead"
I love this so much and I can't really explain why..
herodotus really do be like "it might have been fake, but the fact that i thought it was true says a lot about our society"
Minor correction: Luwian was not the Hittite language. The Hittites (or at least their ruling class and priests) spoke their own language, Hittitic, written in cuneiform. Luwian, written in Anatolian hieroglyphs, was a related language spoken by many people in the Hittite Empire and their vassal kingdoms (alongside Hattic and Hurrian), but only became the lingua franca towards the end of the empire‘s life.
He said "Luwian Hieroglyphics," so presumably he's using an alternate name for Anatolian Hieroglyphics
@@waspsandwich6548 I‘m referring to another point in the video where he refers to Luwian as the Hittite language
@@manospondylus4896 Do you have a timestamp? Not that I don't believe you, I just want to hear it myself XD
Making me hyped for my linguistic anthropology course next semester
In my mind, Sesostris is either a garbled account the the myth of the god Osiris, who was depicted as a litteral god king who ruled over the entire earth in the distant past, or, ironically, of the Persian Emperor Xerxes, whos name was pronounced in Egyptian as Kheshayarusha. Osiris in particular was similar in many ways with Greek god Dionysus, who was also depicted as great conquerer who travelled as far a India.
Judging from the accounts, the only way I could see this Pharoah existing would be if he was an explorer who just happened to visit these places/potentially claiming some small settlements under his domain which later got exaggerated
That makes sense to me, as his citizens how would you know he’s lying. The guy goes around literally villains his enemies pussies
Was a joy to work with you on this awesome video Trey!
Aww likewise, Ryan! Thank you so much for providing me with some amazing tracks ;)
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, that's my name. That's it. It's my name."
literally all I could think of throughout the video
I was half-expecting Trey to mention it
the other half thought it was a low hanging fruit
The fate of all conquerors and rulers who fancy themselves """great""". In the end they and all they wrought are naught, no matter how much loot home they brought, or how viciously they fought, in order to get the power they sought, which to lack they ought.
@@matheussanthiago9685
I dunno why Shelley would have invented a not - very - Egyptian royal name when Sesostris would have fitted the poem perfectly well.
@@jacobscrackers98where is that poem from?
Sesostris's empire reminds me of how in Geoffrey of Monmouth's story of King Arthur, King Arthur not only rules Britain and repels the Saxons, but also conquers all of northern Europe and Gaul and was about to take over the Roman Empire before Mordred's seizing of his throne back in Britain prevents him.
A Stefan Milo video and a Trey The Explainer video drop within fifteen minutes of each other? Oh the universe smiled on us today
Bwhahaha I saw that too😭😭
Men or Menes, the supposed "first king" of Egypt is likely a mythical figure as well. He's credited with uniting the land of Egypt but that achievement is also claimed by the pharaoh Narmer (who's palette is in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo). Men or Menes was given as a name likely because Narmer's name had been lost since it means "he who endures" and was probably a placeholder name.
Also, nitpick, but the name is pronounced ses-sos-tris
Congrats on your 1 million subscribers as well! I can't wait to see what you do for the special!
Great comment, thanks for adding all of this this information. Much appreciated.
Also, re your “nitpick”, I too was wondering about the pronunciation and the extra “issss” sound at the end 🤣
Nah he was real
It is also very possible that Menes was another name for Narmer, it wasn't unusual for Pharaohs to have several names. It do seems a bit odd that they have forgotten the first Pharaoh of a unified Egypt but remembered several far less prominent members of the first dynasty.
However, Menes does only appear in the New kingdom's lists which do make the placeholder name more likely... Another possibility is that Menes was the name of the Pharaoh we call "Scorpion II" which seems to have been Narmer's dad or possibly older brother.
We still have a lot of gaps in our knowledge of the pre dynastic and first dynasty so we can't be sure if Menes existed, if his name was another name for a pharaoh we know about or if he did exist but we still haven't found any evidence of him. All 3 are plausible.
@@loke6664 World of Antiquity has a video on this subject!
@@imppro If he was real then why has there been no archaeological evidence for him or his reign but there has been evidence for other kings of the 1st dynasty none of whom are named Menes. Why also does the name only start appearing in New Kingdom king lists 1000 years after he's supposed to have reigned.
Sometimes I randomly think about the guides that traveled with Erodotus and completely made up things probably laughing while he wrote it.
You are one of the few guys on CZcams who makes such consistently fantastic videos, I'm looking forward to your next things, thank you so much
My take is that Sesostris was a folk memory of Thutmose III, but because of the 18th Dynasty being under the shadow of the Amarna Period, they used instead another name, Sesostris/Senusret, instead.
Would love to see a video about the mythology of Scotia, the Egyptian princess who moved to Scotland and gave the country its name.
Everything leads back to Alexander.. if they didn’t have his fathers bones and tomb of his family with his likeness found in the tomb you could make a strong argument Alexander was just as fictional as our Sisitrisis..
When the world needed him most
He returned
Always love me some Herodotus. He’s such a silly guy.
TIL Middle Ages writers made up their own anime arc for Alexander the Great
Our imaginary ruler could beat up your imaginary ruler: Egyptian Edition.
These last few years your videos have been such high quality, I feel really thankful and fortunate! Your work is valuable
Hadn't the Hittites largely been forgotten by the time of Herodotus? So Sesostris might have also been a way to explain the remains of the Hittite empire found in Anatolia, which to the untrained eye definitely did look Egyptian. And like once we get past Anatolia and the Hittites all the other regions except Ethiopia would have just been considered unimportant hinterlands by most people at the time so it was easy to believe that Egypt could have ruled them.
I also found the exclusion of Greece very interesting, I'm betting that the Egyptian guides deliberately left that out to not offend their gullible tourists but when talking to tourists from elsewhere Greek was probably part of his conquests. Especially since that'd definitely be the way to make Sesostris seem grander than the Persian empire.
The Hittites are mentioned in the Bible so they likely weren't forgotten but just very obscure
“Babe wake up. Trey the Explainer uploaded.”
Damn, the ending really made me sad. I was so hype to learn about Sesostris only to learn about the destruction of Tarkasnawa... 😢
Trey called them treasure hunters, but considering the region, it's more likely some people with too much "righteous fury" decided to destroy some idols to prove their dedication to their sky-daddy. So much of history and priceless archeological pieces are destroyed because of things like this, it's not even funny.
@@Horvath_GaborI know. 😭 Knowing that gave me such weird colonialism feels when I went to the British Museum.
nah people in Smirne aren't that fundamentalist, they were most likely treasure hunters.@@Horvath_Gabor
"Look upon my works ye mighty and despair"
Herodotus is my favorite ancient. And he's a goldmine for fun videos like this.
Is Sesostris real?
It's amazing the influence that myth, propaganda, and legend have on history and archeology. Kudos to those professionals for their ability to separate fact from fiction. Thanks for the work you put in to presenting this knowledge.
Yeah. Most of the world doesn't even know the truth of what happened in WW2, just about 80 years ago. Imagine how much the waters are muddied down over millennia of history
It's sad that king tarkasnawa will always be outshined by a non existent king , despite having aided us in understanding his language and it's world trough centuries
I love it that tourists back in the day were getting trolled by locals. It reminds me of the people who get Chinese or Japanese character tattoos that totally do NOT say "enlightenment" or whatever bullshit they got told that it meant. More translation mixups!
An extremely good video. Trey out here dropping top tier content as always.
i love you trey, been a fan since like, god middle school i think and now i’m graduating college soon, i love you man, got me into jojo and paleontology and speculative biology, i love whenever i see a notification of a new vid :) congrats on 1000000 you’ve earned it
Our boy Gigastris conquering everything he pointed at.
This was an awesome and poignant video, great work!
IT WAS UPON MY SHOULDERS THAT THE WINNINGS OF THIS LAND WAS BORNE.
I love how you narrate your videos. Even when you talk about our loss of history it doesn't feel quite like the end of the world. The destruction (and creation) of history isn't just an ongoing process, but history in and on itself. Reminds me of when I attended an archaeology 101 class and the teacher started with the nuance that comes with this field of study.
Welp, I didn't expect to get emotional but I literally cried at the end. Your videos are pure poetry!
Bro had me legit tearing up when Alexander and Sesostrisus were having their dialogue in Heaven
The prophecy is fulfilled! Trey returns!
The name shown at ~9:51 and ~10:34 isn't the Egyptian spelling of Senusret, those Hieroglyphs spell out xpr-k3-r' or "Kheperkare," a different Egyptian name.
SesostrEYESis? It's pronunced seh-SUH-striss...
This is my new favorite series, please make this a regular thing!!
The extra syllable you inserted into Sesostris is driving me nuts
sorry
@@TREYtheExplainer Omg I can't believe you replied to this, don't feel bad it was still a great video lol
I'm like who the heck is sesostrisis?? Its Sez-oz-tris. I've heard all good stories from Egypt except this one but then I realized you were saying the name wrong or maybe not wrong but different to what I have heard. Sesostris is the story of a badass and you're prolly right, Herodotus was gullible
Ah yes, my favourite Pharaoh, "A".
Always a pleasure to see you upload, Trey
I really enjoyed this video but I was quite confused why you read Sesostris as Sesostrisis
yeah fucking hell doesnt he have like two degrees? xd
@@czechplay100and also dyslexia, he already made a comment about it
Thank god I am not the only one hearing it.
Please consider doing a video on the mythology, superstitions, and stereotypes of redheads!!
i.e a video about ireland
So a video about Irish history?
@@matheussanthiago9685 red heads started in Central Asia and then went to Ireland
As a history teacher I love these videos and hope you continue doing a series on Herodotus and his crazy stories, they’re great and it’s funny how much the “father of history” just misunderstood or made up entirely.
mans was the original "source: me"
I'm not sure why people have such beef with Herodotus. It feels quite pompous and elitist to sit two thousand years later and laugh and mock one of the first people to try to scientifically study history for being wrong.
Very happy to see the channel has 1M ... It deserves several more. Been great seeing it grow over the years and consistently entertain and fascinate
Is it Sesostris or Sesostrises or am I reading it wrong?
I’m always happy how much hard work you put into your video! Thank you!
I love this channel been watching since the Mississippi Delta trip. Thanks for all the great informative videos.
If it’s true that ancient Egypt really had its own Alexander or Genghis Khan that would be really epic.
Sometimes I wonder why they didn't.
@@Based_Gigachad_001 They did, his name was Ramesses II, perhaps the breadth of his kingdom wasn't as grand or as vast as Alexandros' or Temujin's but it was grand in it's own right, especially in the context of it's own time.
Thutmose III was the real deal.
@@Murphio25 I love Ramesses II but he would pale in comparison with Thutmose III, he is the first Emperor and Egypt became a true empire that was unstoppable for hundreds of years.. he won over 80+ battles conquered 50 cities defeated 250 kings and princes, 24 of these battles are well recorded Megido is one of them which is the first battle recorded in history. He conquered Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Sudan, Cyprus, Sicily, Syria, Anatolia then western Persia..
@@ashiinsane90and then sudan
Your videos are fantastic and I love hearing your soothing voice while you describe obscure and fascinating element of history
I've been binging your content lately and I cannot explain just how much joy they bring me! Thank you for your efforts and expertise!
your videos are just so wonderfully written and researched.
im so obsessed with all the art you put in your videos -- they are so descriptive and funny!
This is just what I needed right now. Also,please make a video about debunking conspiracy theories. Like you did with Reptilians.
Bro you're literally Molech lmao
@@iwannabethekid34xc I am?
Or maybe Herodotus just got trolled by the egyptians, giggling. But hadn't caught on, because he never bothered to open his duolingo app and learn some egyptian.
The story of the phantom pharaoh should insipire all of us to learn more languages
Love this type of videos, it’s good to see the claims of Herodotus’ be a little contested anyways as he really was a massive gossip. As an Egyptologist I love the amount of work put into them and how accurate they are, very exciting way to introduce others to archaeology and the like.
Baby, wake up! New TREY the Explainer dropped!!!
Oh the greatest pharoah: A
And his son, B
this was awesome! your videos are so cool, and informative, and fun to watch! I love it when you cover history, especially antiquity😊
Keep up the great content! I like this pace
6:50 Plimpton 322. Pythagorean triples were known in Babylon roughly 1200 years before Pythagoras. I know the point of that quote/subsequent joke is to point out how suspect the claim is, but it's worth remembering that mathematical knowledge developed centuries before it was written down. It is not entirely out of the question that ancient Egyptians had some ideas about land area to do taxes.
The name is Sesostris but, in the video you pronounce it like «se-so-stri-sis». Is there a good reason for that?
Bothered me :D
"Ses-os-tris" is not that hard to pronounce, why add the extra "is"?
He seems to like adding letters to some words, deciding that is the proper pronunciation and never questioning it. Like how he adds an extra t to the middle of 'genitals' saying "gen-ti-tals"
greek is a funny language
@@matheussanthiago9685 Nah, I think he's just got a batch of the 'lexias.
iirc he has dyslexia
All of your videos are so good. Thank you for your work
Thank you for continuing to be one of my favourite CZcamsrs whose videos are endlessly rewatchable
I just want to say that this was a truly amazing video. It is sad to see how some people today totally disregard and disrespect history and historical monuments. But i guess there will always be people like this.
I love the mix of silliness and genuinely interesting history in this vid.
your videos have gotten me super into anthropology lately :,) ive been watching your stuff since like ~2017 or so, and found you through paleontology stuff. i never thought id be so invested in anthropology and history ever, im pleasantly surprised!
Your videos are always so interesting. I just know, regardless of the topic you choose to talk about, that I'll find it super interesting.
Love it when you publish fresh, new content
this was such an interesting journey, this has been a rad little series so far
Thank you so much for you research, your effort, and dedication to your content. I’ve grown up with your videos the last 9 years and forever will be your fan. Thank you
Those priest guiding Herodotus around 'hey who wants to start betting on how absurd of a story we can tell this dude before he calls bullshit on us itll be funny'
Sometimes I can't watch a Trey video right away. You gotta give yourself the right kind of atmosphere, y'know? But I click on it and like it anyway. I know he'll have earned it by the end.
Thank you for the awesome content and great videos!!!
I love your work. Thanks a lot for another great video! :D
greatest video I've ever seen
Never have I ever been here so early for a new video, this is pretty exciting! 🎉
phenomenal work as always. captivated the entire time
Just want you to know that I love your videos. They are educational and funny.Hope you keep doing them!
I'm always glad to watch a Trey video, keep it up man love your vids
When I saw the supposed carving in Aeagean region I immediately thought of Karabel Relief. Wasn't suprised to see it has nothing to do with Egyptians. As noted before, the language is Luwian and Luwian was the common language in the area. The Mira Land is thought to be a small region but the bigger kingdom in the region was Arzawa. Also Apasa is directly linked with Arzawa not Mira Kingdom since Apasa is thought to be an older name for Ephesus.
I am so interested in the Bronze Age Aegean since so little is known and so little is excavated because major sites are all classical and lays upon the bronze age material.
I always enjoy your lectures! Keep up the good work!
Another Absolute BANGER of a video!
Just some absolutely stunning storytelling by Trey here. We aren’t worthy