Moram priznati da si i ti na neki način "krivac" za ovaj video. :-) Dosta ljudi je tražilo da obradim kompresor, a tvoj komentar na videu Master EQ je bio okidač da to i učinim. Kada spominjem "probijenu minutažu" onda ne mislim samo na trajanje videa, nego i na količinu informacija koje se nalaze u njemu. Ovaj je video kratak za nekoga poput tebe jer pratiš temu sa zanimanjem i koncentracijom. Ali moraš uzeti u obzir da postoje i oni drugi koji nakon treće minute očekuju "odgovor" na sva pitanja koja ih muče. Zato pokušavam pronaći sredinu, to je po mom mišljenju 10tak minuta.
Casper, danke für das Video. Da ich auch mit Cubase arbeite, sind all diese Begriffe nichts neues. Umso mehr begeistert bin ich, was man alles bearbeiten kann, bevor man seine Songs als Audio aufnehmen kann. Danke dafür. Es würde mich noch interessieren, ob du an einem Beispiel Song zeigen kannst, welche Instrumente eine sinnvolle EQ bräuchten. Praktisch, ein Vorher/nachher Vergleich. Würde mich sehr interessieren. Nochmals danke, du erklärst prima, wenn selbst ich alles verstehe 😂
Thanks for the good reviews. The use of EQ in audio processing is a very important part. there are many instructions for using the DAW, so I didn't go into that part. I'm more oriented towards working with the keyboard. Here I explained how eq works in the keyboard. czcams.com/video/vPzkYHt80jQ/video.html To use EQ in audio processing, you will have to look for another channel.
Danke, immer wieder interessant. Es gibt so unendlich viele Einstellungen, dass viele sich nur noch damit beschäftigen und die eigentliche Musik vergessen. Gucke mir fast alle Videos zu diesem Thema an. Aber zum Ende sagt dann doch jeder "Das eigene Gehör muss entscheiden". Trotzdem freue ich mich über jeden Tipp. Aber, ich bin Komponist und muss eine Idee sofort umsetzen, da kann ich mich gar nicht mit allen Einstellungen auseinandersetzen. Ich muss sofort was spontan einspielen, sonst ist die musikalische Idee weg. Das hat dann den Nachteil, dass ich hinterher alles verbessern muss. Trotzdem, danke für alle Tipps.
Solche Verfahren stehen in engem Zusammenhang mit der Klangverarbeitung und erfordern viel Wissen und Erfahrung. Wer sich mit Komponieren beschäftigt oder fleißig das Spielen auf einem Instrument übt, hat keine Zeit, sich mit solchen Dingen zu befassen. Schalten Sie einfach ein paar Werkseinstellungen ein und das reicht für einen guten Klang völlig aus.
But I did spend a lot of time when I first got my SX-900, to setup the Master Compressor. It was by "trial and error", and "by ear". However, I did notice something that helped a lot, and that was watching the Yamaha demonstrators like Gabriel Aldort, and Peter Baartmans. If you watch and look very carefully at their videos, they sometimes show a very brief screen shot of their Master Compressor, while they are playing. I noticed that they had the Compression set all the way up to 100, and low values for the Texture setting. Somewhere, I read a comment that said Yamaha is using only "Moderate" compression on the Master, and 100 is not doing anything severe! so, on the Texture setting -- I personally have the impression that it has an effect on which frequencies get compressed. Low values seem to affect the low frequencies, high values have more of an effect on high frequencies. That's just my impression, from my hearing! So initially, I used a value of 50, right in the middle. But after experimenting, I chose the value 16, and overall, it sounds very good to me. Compression = 100, Texture = 16, and then adjust the Output for a good recording level. Thanks again for all of your valuable information! Jerry
Hi Jerry. Thanks for the advice and for the Master Compressor settings. I will try a little more to try out your settings. The Tyros and PSR S series have a different type of compressor installed. If set too aggressively, the main signal would sometimes be reduced, attenuated. This created confusion among the players as they felt that the keyboard was not correct. I think that’s the main reason why Yamaha put a parallel compressor on the main L / R.
@@CasperVideo Very interesting, I'm glad the SX-900 has the parallel compressor. It brings out a lot of nuances in all the Styles, just need to adjust track volumes and panning if needed. Sure, give those settings a try, and please let me know what you think. It was trial and error, just experimenting! You've given us the best explanation for the compressor, better than Yamaha!! LOL
Casper, my comments were cut off when I posted! I have seen this before, the problem occurs whenever I right click on comments, and "Translate to English" LOL I have to remember to first refresh the screen, then make my comments!! LOL Jerry
Poštovani gospodine Casper ne znam koga da pitam. Zanima me koji mi je software potreban za sempliranje zvuka i odakle krenuti. Znam da je to širok pojam ali htio bih snimiti svoju scandalli harmoniku po registrima. Dobro bi došla i neka literatura jer ne znam odakle da krenem. Hvala na svemu. Pozdrav!
Nije toliko bitan software koji koristiš, bitni su uvjeti i oprema kojom snimaš. Dobar mikrofon ili dva komada, akustički dobra soba, kvalitetna zvučna kartica ... Pored ovoga treba iskustvo u metodama snimanja od postavljanja mikrofona pa do pravilno odsviranih tonova. Tehnički to izgleda ovako. Snimiš svaki ton jednog registra s barem dvije različite glasnoće. Znači, za jednu oktavu registra imaš 24 uzroka, što više oktava, više uzoraka. Pa drugi registar, pa treći .... Ovo je opis za gitaru ali sve vrlo slično i za harmoniku. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-sampling-acoustic-guitar-taught-us Kada imaš potreban broj uzoraka kreće dugotajan posao slaganja istih u jedan sound. Za to koristiš neki od programa poput Awave Studio, Robot Sampler ... www.sweetwater.com/c848--Sampling_Software Zaključno, za izradu dobrog sampla su potrebni uvijeti ali isto tako i iskustvo. I mnogo vremena, pitanje je da li se to uopće isplati. Možeš pokušati ali prvi rezultati sigurno neće biti zadovoljavajući. Možda si čuo da je netko samplirao zvuk harmonike s neke klavijature. Ili, samplirao bubanj s Korga da prebaci na Yamahu ili obratno ... To je sve jalov posao jer su rezultati u pravilu lošiji od tvorničkog zvuka klavijature u koju se sample ubacuje.
@@CasperVideo Hvala puno na opsežnom odgovoru. Shvatio sam da je to ogroman posao dosta već imam pa ču probat najteži mi je sam početak kako sam spomenuo . Bit ču strpljiv . Hvala i pozdrav !
@@ivanloncaric7925 Za početak kreni s poslom kao malo testiranje. Uzmi "običan" mikrofon, snimi uzorke harmonike, ne moraš svaki ton (može svaki 3-4), ne moraš dva layera (tiši - glasniji) i onda to posloži u nekom programu. Samo za test, da osjetiš kako ide i da uđeš u štos. Ako ti se dopadne, pristupiš ozbiljnije, s više layera, više uzoraka ...
Dear Casper, thanks for a very informative tutorial, as usual. I have a question regarding recording a MIDI song, as I feel that it involves some compression (it happened in my old PSR 2100, in my Tyros4 and it happens in my new Genos as well). Each time I record a new MIDI song, then when I hear the recorded song, the volume of at least the solo instrument is automatically slightly reduced (some instruments sound with lower volume, especially the Solo instrument). I have to say that I have not set any overall compression. - If I did then I always had to hear it, not only during MIDI recording. It forces me to drastically increase the volume of that instrument in order for me to re-record it and then hear it better (and stronger) than the rest of the background instruments. For example, you can hear it significantly when you record many instruments (big orchestra) and you want that solo piano (main solo instrument) will sound stronger than the rest of the orchestra (in other words, you want that the piano will sound as a solo instrument should sound when you play a whole orchestra). I compare it to songs I play in real time and record it directly to a digital recorder. - In this case the song sounds exactly as I want it to be with the original volumes that are absolutely great and the solo piano (as an example) is strong as I want it to be. So, it feels that the MIDI recording uses some kind of compression. Have you faced this problem? Is it possible to cancel this phenomenon that automatically reduces the volume?
The problem is in the strength of the signal you are recording. It should be set so that it does not exceed 0db and then the recording should be fine. To be able to answer more accurately, I need to know which method you use to record MIDI. Do you do this on an internal recorder on the keyboard or do you use the audio interface to record on a computer?
Dear Casper, yes, I use the standard internal recording of the Genos. You can significantly notice this phenomenon when you record a whole orchestra and you want your solo instrument, let's say, a piano, to be heard much stronger then the rest of the orchestra. I use the standard volume of the style (100). I have not changed any original settings. I guess that if it is a compressor problem, then it would have effect the overall sound. So, what I usually do is I set the volume of the solo instrument much higher than when I play in real time. This helps, but still always leaves the problem. It is funny to say, but I save a registration-set for a real-time performance and a separate registration-set for this same song recording. When I record a real-time performance directly into an external recorder, I obviously hear it as I play it in real time. When I record it using the Genos recorder it strangely lowers those volume levels, as there is a kind of compressor.
@@LahavZur I think you will solve the problem if you adjust the recording level on the Monitor slider. It is set to 90 by default but from my experience it should be between 65-70. It is important that the LEDs do not enter the red area. As you may have noticed, the problem only occurs when multiple channels are playing at the same time. All their signals add up and together they are too strong. Not a problem to the compressor. Attenuation occurs because the recorder has a built-in limiter that prevents distortion during a strong signal. Try and let us know how it worked.
Dear Casper, thanks for your kind reply. I might miss here something. What do you mean by "Monitor"? I don't use an Audio-Recording. I use Genos standard Multi recording method. The volume level I use for the style is the normal (preset automatic) level of 100. Is that what you mean that I have to lower to 65-70?
@@LahavZur I seem to have misunderstood you. I thinked you’re recording in Audio Mode. There is a Monitor slider and it determines the level of the recording signal. If I understood correctly, you are using MIDI multirecording Mode. Record one part in it first and then record a new instrument that should be louder (SOLO) afterwards. And there is a atenuation in it that creates a problem. I didn’t notice it happening to me. This phenomenon could be related to the setting of the master compressor. But you say don't use it. Is he completely off? How do you listen to recorded MIDI? Headphones, external speakers via MAIN or original speakers from Genos?
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Herzlichen Dank Caspar. Du hast das sehr gut erklärt
Ne brinite za "probijenu minutažu" - svaki Vaš video je interesantan i koristan od početka do kraja. Hvala! ;-)
Moram priznati da si i ti na neki način "krivac" za ovaj video. :-) Dosta ljudi je tražilo da obradim kompresor, a tvoj komentar na videu Master EQ je bio okidač da to i učinim. Kada spominjem "probijenu minutažu" onda ne mislim samo na trajanje videa, nego i na količinu informacija koje se nalaze u njemu. Ovaj je video kratak za nekoga poput tebe jer pratiš temu sa zanimanjem i koncentracijom. Ali moraš uzeti u obzir da postoje i oni drugi koji nakon treće minute očekuju "odgovor" na sva pitanja koja ih muče. Zato pokušavam pronaći sredinu, to je po mom mišljenju 10tak minuta.
Great job. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Casper, another outstanding video.
My pleasure!
Casper, danke für das Video. Da ich auch mit Cubase arbeite, sind all diese Begriffe nichts neues. Umso mehr begeistert bin ich, was man alles bearbeiten kann, bevor man seine Songs als Audio aufnehmen kann.
Danke dafür. Es würde mich noch interessieren, ob du an einem Beispiel Song zeigen kannst, welche Instrumente eine sinnvolle EQ bräuchten. Praktisch, ein Vorher/nachher Vergleich. Würde mich sehr interessieren.
Nochmals danke, du erklärst prima, wenn selbst ich alles verstehe 😂
Thanks for the good reviews.
The use of EQ in audio processing is a very important part. there are many instructions for using the DAW, so I didn't go into that part. I'm more oriented towards working with the keyboard. Here I explained how eq works in the keyboard.
czcams.com/video/vPzkYHt80jQ/video.html
To use EQ in audio processing, you will have to look for another channel.
Bravo, Casper. Hvala!
Wow this video helped alot. I plan to get a psr sx700 one day is there any limits on using insertion effects on the sx700 vs the sx900
Danke, immer wieder interessant. Es gibt so unendlich viele Einstellungen, dass viele sich nur noch damit beschäftigen und die eigentliche Musik vergessen. Gucke mir fast alle Videos zu diesem Thema an. Aber zum Ende sagt dann doch jeder "Das eigene Gehör muss entscheiden". Trotzdem freue ich mich über jeden Tipp.
Aber, ich bin Komponist und muss eine Idee sofort umsetzen, da kann ich mich gar nicht mit allen Einstellungen auseinandersetzen. Ich muss sofort was spontan einspielen, sonst ist die musikalische Idee weg. Das hat dann den Nachteil, dass ich hinterher alles verbessern muss.
Trotzdem, danke für alle Tipps.
Solche Verfahren stehen in engem Zusammenhang mit der Klangverarbeitung und erfordern viel Wissen und Erfahrung. Wer sich mit Komponieren beschäftigt oder fleißig das Spielen auf einem Instrument übt, hat keine Zeit, sich mit solchen Dingen zu befassen. Schalten Sie einfach ein paar Werkseinstellungen ein und das reicht für einen guten Klang völlig aus.
@@CasperVideo Danke, komme gut klar und habe mich intensiv mit dem Sequenzer beschäftigt. Trotzdem freue ich mich über jeden Tipp von Dir.
But I did spend a lot of time when I first got my SX-900, to setup the Master Compressor. It was by "trial and error", and "by ear". However, I did notice something that helped a lot, and that was watching the Yamaha demonstrators like Gabriel Aldort, and Peter Baartmans. If you watch and look very carefully at their videos, they sometimes show a very brief screen shot of their Master Compressor, while they are playing. I noticed that they had the Compression set all the way up to 100, and low values for the Texture setting. Somewhere, I read a comment that said Yamaha is using only "Moderate" compression on the Master, and 100 is not doing anything severe!
so, on the Texture setting -- I personally have the impression that it has an effect on which frequencies get compressed. Low values seem to affect the low frequencies, high values have more of an effect on high frequencies. That's just my impression, from my hearing! So initially, I used a value of 50, right in the middle. But after experimenting, I chose the value 16, and overall, it sounds very good to me. Compression = 100, Texture = 16, and then adjust the Output for a good recording level.
Thanks again for all of your valuable information! Jerry
Hi Jerry. Thanks for the advice and for the Master Compressor settings. I will try a little more to try out your settings.
The Tyros and PSR S series have a different type of compressor installed. If set too aggressively, the main signal would sometimes be reduced, attenuated. This created confusion among the players as they felt that the keyboard was not correct. I think that’s the main reason why Yamaha put a parallel compressor on the main L / R.
@@CasperVideo Very interesting, I'm glad the SX-900 has the parallel compressor. It brings out a lot of nuances in all the Styles, just need to adjust track volumes and panning if needed. Sure, give those settings a try, and please let me know what you think. It was trial and error, just experimenting! You've given us the best explanation for the compressor, better than Yamaha!! LOL
Casper, my comments were cut off when I posted! I have seen this before, the problem occurs whenever I right click on comments, and "Translate to English" LOL I have to remember to first refresh the screen, then make my comments!! LOL Jerry
Poštovani gospodine Casper ne znam koga da pitam. Zanima me koji mi je software potreban za sempliranje zvuka i odakle krenuti. Znam da je to širok pojam ali htio bih snimiti svoju scandalli harmoniku po registrima. Dobro bi došla i neka literatura jer ne znam odakle da krenem. Hvala na svemu. Pozdrav!
Nije toliko bitan software koji koristiš, bitni su uvjeti i oprema kojom snimaš. Dobar mikrofon ili dva komada, akustički dobra soba, kvalitetna zvučna kartica ... Pored ovoga treba iskustvo u metodama snimanja od postavljanja mikrofona pa do pravilno odsviranih tonova. Tehnički to izgleda ovako. Snimiš svaki ton jednog registra s barem dvije različite glasnoće. Znači, za jednu oktavu registra imaš 24 uzroka, što više oktava, više uzoraka. Pa drugi registar, pa treći .... Ovo je opis za gitaru ali sve vrlo slično i za harmoniku.
www.soundonsound.com/techniques/what-sampling-acoustic-guitar-taught-us
Kada imaš potreban broj uzoraka kreće dugotajan posao slaganja istih u jedan sound.
Za to koristiš neki od programa poput Awave Studio, Robot Sampler ...
www.sweetwater.com/c848--Sampling_Software
Zaključno, za izradu dobrog sampla su potrebni uvijeti ali isto tako i iskustvo. I mnogo vremena, pitanje je da li se to uopće isplati. Možeš pokušati ali prvi rezultati sigurno neće biti zadovoljavajući.
Možda si čuo da je netko samplirao zvuk harmonike s neke klavijature. Ili, samplirao bubanj s Korga da prebaci na Yamahu ili obratno ... To je sve jalov posao jer su rezultati u pravilu lošiji od tvorničkog zvuka klavijature u koju se sample ubacuje.
@@CasperVideo Hvala puno na opsežnom odgovoru. Shvatio sam da je to ogroman posao dosta već imam pa ču probat najteži mi je sam početak kako sam spomenuo . Bit ču strpljiv . Hvala i pozdrav !
@@ivanloncaric7925 Za početak kreni s poslom kao malo testiranje. Uzmi "običan" mikrofon, snimi uzorke harmonike, ne moraš svaki ton (može svaki 3-4), ne moraš dva layera (tiši - glasniji) i onda to posloži u nekom programu. Samo za test, da osjetiš kako ide i da uđeš u štos. Ako ti se dopadne, pristupiš ozbiljnije, s više layera, više uzoraka ...
Merci bien
🍀🙏❤
Dear Casper, thanks for a very informative tutorial, as usual. I have a question regarding recording a MIDI song, as I feel that it involves some compression (it happened in my old PSR 2100, in my Tyros4 and it happens in my new Genos as well).
Each time I record a new MIDI song, then when I hear the recorded song, the volume of at least the solo instrument is automatically slightly reduced (some instruments sound with lower volume, especially the Solo instrument).
I have to say that I have not set any overall compression. - If I did then I always had to hear it, not only during MIDI recording.
It forces me to drastically increase the volume of that instrument in order for me to re-record it and then hear it better (and stronger) than the rest of the background instruments.
For example, you can hear it significantly when you record many instruments (big orchestra) and you want that solo piano (main solo instrument) will sound stronger than the rest of the orchestra (in other words, you want that the piano will sound as a solo instrument should sound when you play a whole orchestra).
I compare it to songs I play in real time and record it directly to a digital recorder. - In this case the song sounds exactly as I want it to be with the original volumes that are absolutely great and the solo piano (as an example) is strong as I want it to be.
So, it feels that the MIDI recording uses some kind of compression. Have you faced this problem? Is it possible to cancel this phenomenon that automatically reduces the volume?
The problem is in the strength of the signal you are recording. It should be set so that it does not exceed 0db and then the recording should be fine. To be able to answer more accurately, I need to know which method you use to record MIDI. Do you do this on an internal recorder on the keyboard or do you use the audio interface to record on a computer?
Dear Casper, yes, I use the standard internal recording of the Genos.
You can significantly notice this phenomenon when you record a whole orchestra and you want your solo instrument, let's say, a piano, to be heard much stronger then the rest of the orchestra.
I use the standard volume of the style (100).
I have not changed any original settings. I guess that if it is a compressor problem, then it would have effect the overall sound.
So, what I usually do is I set the volume of the solo instrument much higher than when I play in real time. This helps, but still always leaves the problem. It is funny to say, but I save a registration-set for a real-time performance and a separate registration-set for this same song recording. When I record a real-time performance directly into an external recorder, I obviously hear it as I play it in real time. When I record it using the Genos recorder it strangely lowers those volume levels, as there is a kind of compressor.
@@LahavZur I think you will solve the problem if you adjust the recording level on the Monitor slider. It is set to 90 by default but from my experience it should be between 65-70. It is important that the LEDs do not enter the red area. As you may have noticed, the problem only occurs when multiple channels are playing at the same time. All their signals add up and together they are too strong.
Not a problem to the compressor. Attenuation occurs because the recorder has a built-in limiter that prevents distortion during a strong signal.
Try and let us know how it worked.
Dear Casper, thanks for your kind reply. I might miss here something. What do you mean by "Monitor"? I don't use an Audio-Recording. I use Genos standard Multi recording method. The volume level I use for the style is the normal (preset automatic) level of 100. Is that what you mean that I have to lower to 65-70?
@@LahavZur I seem to have misunderstood you. I thinked you’re recording in Audio Mode. There is a Monitor slider and it determines the level of the recording signal.
If I understood correctly, you are using MIDI multirecording Mode. Record one part in it first and then record a new instrument that should be louder (SOLO) afterwards. And there is a atenuation in it that creates a problem.
I didn’t notice it happening to me. This phenomenon could be related to the setting of the master compressor. But you say don't use it. Is he completely off?
How do you listen to recorded MIDI? Headphones, external speakers via MAIN or original speakers from Genos?
How can we get sidechain effect in style creator
A side chain can be used, look at the four knobs on the right. 12:12
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