MacBook Pro 16” 2019 Teardown-A Better Keyboard Can't Fix This Thing
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2019
- Apple has made a few tweaks to their MacBook Pro formula, bringing us the most exciting hardware upgrade we’ve seen in years: the promise of a working keyboard. Not only did they finally replace the butterfly keyboard with a reinvented scissor keyboard, they also added a slightly larger display and a physical escape key! Such upgrade!
Apple says this updated Mac is all about listening to the customer. And guess what? We're a customer-we bought this MacBook Pro! Have they listened to us and updated its repairability? Well... probably not. But you better believe that we tore it down anyway to find out.
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Wow, you can replace the fans.. Revolutionary!!
Dana Adalaide That’s what I said. Pfft!
Courage
"The replacement process works like magic" -Ghost of Steve Jobs, November 2019
cant tell if thats sarcasm
@@TheJosiahTurner It is
You forgot to tell us about the screen
Pausing the video and looking at the top of the motherboard appears to show only ribbon-type connectors. I'd wager little to no change.
The new macbooks with the T2 chips also have the screen tied to the motherboard / logic board. I'm unsure if it's all of the new ones. But you can't replace them on your own.
Flexgate issue
@Saucy Fox And If the display cable broken you still replace the whole screen
@Saucy Fox Hi! Do you have an article about that? I'd love to know too
"Making upgrades impossible"
Let me introduce you to a friend named Strange Parts.
Stranger Parts: "Hello there"
if software lock even change a battery is impossible
Upgrade the solid state drive -> Maybe
Upgrade the RAM is the real big deal
How many modern laptops are repairable?
Jelano Philli
Short and to the point! Great Video Thanks!
That moment when a updated keyboard is just an older model that was way better than the shitty previous butterfly switch.
Next thing they'll bring back the headphone jack
Chief Denis i doubt that...the problem with butterfly-keyboard that cost apple tons of money so they have to replace it. When headphones jack is on other hand, people get use to wireless and typec headphones already so i don’t see why they would bring it back.
And they give it old new name
Chief Denis the Mac has a headphone jack... it always has...
Wesselv97 ikr
Can confirm my 16 inch 2020 MacBook Pro had an angle sensor failure as well as display cable cracked and they replaced the whole display assembly for me. Before I sent it to them, I told them I also was having problems with it overheating and the fans spinning max speed from just medium use tasks. They said that's just how the 16 inch was and I asked if it could just be checked out while they had it. Since I got it back, the fans have NOT had the need to spin up to max speed, and the laptop has stayed a ridiculous amount cooler, and it ended up being that they replaced most of the internals on my laptop, but would nit tell me what for. They sent a sheet back with it explaining what they replaced and it was much more than just the screen and lid angle sensor. Is clear they are having problems, so if you have one would suggest just sending to them to check on it and you will get a whole new laptop back. It really is an awesome laptop now that the fans cant be heard over my music at last!
Thank you!
What about the screen? Have they changed the connectors at all?
Man it was years ago, the new MacBooks even 2018 don’t have that problem any more ;/
Sami Cenkci Good to know.
Thanks for the video... Grinches of Tech
only a problem with 2016 models (2015 also for the 12 inch)
ricky v you’re everywhere. I saw your reply to a comment in the 2020 WWDC MAC Rumors Video
Score of 1 on 10.... The design team gets a huge bonus - in the meanwhile at Apple office!
2:09 tearing down new 16" 2019 MacBook Pro while using 2010 model on the right 😂
Model you mean the girl right? Sheesh she's beautiful, so is the video presenter.
who says that its a 2010 model??
honestly, the older one is a far better computer. imo apple hasn't made a decent macbook pro since 2015 and even that one kinda sucked compared to older models...
@@lenshibo that is ur personal view. for me i like the new 16 inch mbp. also the old butterfly not maked any issue for me but it feels better to type on the new keyboard
Optical drive on MacBook
Thanks for the video Grinches of tech
It’s so hilarious and tragic at the same time that Apple has us so wrapped around their finger we’re ecstatic they fixed a f*ucking KEYBOARD! 😂
Thanks, can we have 2020 Pro 13 Inch Disassemble too?
This is why I stick with my 2011 MBP
Liquid metal recommended?
Ifixit, Did apple fix the LCD flexgate issues,Apple T2 chip bridge os errors????? Please let me know. Thank you.
Your voice is too good and I can listen to you as much as you can speak.
WOW! SO GOOD 👍👍👍
Woah, Keyboard is Quieter.. INNOVATION!
Fans and ports were replaceable before but yeah
Does Apple make them hard to repair so you have to go them for new parts or a new computer?
Which Mac book can we buy in 2020,plz suggest
I will stick with my 17" MBP that's still running fine with Catalina installed, upgraded the memory and fitted an SSD, and it's easy to upgrade.
Me too, at least until the gpu fails again...
im curious where you will fit RAM slots and sockets in this thin chassis
Is the battery replaceable?
Still T2, soldered SSD without an emergency recovery port, no TouchBar-free option, same old LVDS flex instead of normal cable, no SD reader.
Only the keyboard was fixed. Isn't that too few improvements?
screen got better and bigger aswell as the speakers. I think you have better thermals and battery. and they charge the same money as before for a better product so why shouldn't they give people this update? don't nit pick only for the sake of nit picking
@Steve1963 D :D
Yeah, but obsolence will make 2012 mac old anyway pretty soon(
Id like to be able to upgrade the ram, but I guess Im stuck without it.
I'm OK with soldered RAM. The real problem is Apple asking $$$$$$$ for RAM upgrading.
A physical escape key? ****WOW!****
Just bought a 15" 2015 mbp for 850 bucks last month..i upgraded with a 980 GB Transcend SSD (bought at only 150 bucks, like new but at half the price) and now its a bomb. I invested only 1000 $ to get a machine that is better than the 3.000$ brand new one...so happy 😁👍
Where can I find the Thunderbolt ports?
Ifixit does it have issues with lcd screen flexgate. Does it fix the constant Apple T2 chip crashes with bridge is errors?????
is it possible to replace the trackpad from this macbook model?
Display cable !?
Can you make a video of how to replace the HDD in a EVOO Windows 10 32 GB?
If it's modular as phone cameras it can be easily replaced, but a problem is where to find spare parts in Mechagon. Major of town came to me and showed me a place.
Magic keyboard - A keyboard that doesn't suck and hopefully doesn't fail. That would indeed be magic.
the ssd looks so tiny 🤩
Great review! Since the drive is soldered unto the board, my worry is data retrieval in case of a major failure. Like the 2016/2017 models, is there a dedicated port of some sort on the mother board to retrieve data from the ssd?
No. Always backup your data.
the storage size WOW
Is it possible to replace the logic board?
I never minded the butterfly switches. I thought they were pleasurable to type on. I've got the 2018 i9 macbook and it has served me well thus far. However, apple needs to realize, if something is faulty, it needs to be a free repair since I paid $3500 for your piece of aluminum.
Same here all around. Good to read someone else enjoys them for once.
would like to have these fans on the older MacBook pros
Ohh! Is it!?!?
Waiting on the 13 inch version
Love the MacBook Pro
Apple will always primarily choose to listen to investors prior to consumers. Yes, consumers DO shape the product lines down the pipeline of development, but internal design changes reflect Apple's goal to please investors: By ensuring they control the majority of their Part Repair Market Share.
So long as Apple sells the product, their control on it's long-term maintenance ensures maximum profit is extracted both during, after, and post-mortem per product sold. It's madness. Monopolized Madness. But that's one of the many reasons for their High Value...
yet they continue enjoying record sales... if customers were so disappointed they'd stop buying apple which is not at all what's happening, you're divorced from reality and can't see past your own biases and ego
Actually they didn't state anything that negates what you said, they simply pointed out what they pointed out.
It's most likely your bias and ego you should be looking at.
You have my respect. Because you understand business. ;)
As an investor, I like the strategy. And it's not a monopoly, you can buy computers, monitors, tables, phones from anyone you please. Apple's model does not fit the definition of a monopoly.
You are giving Apple too much credit in terms of them actually listening to anyone's opinion. Truth is Apple don't really care what anyone thinks - including investors. They've always been like this in the entirety of its 40+ year history. They create a product to follow their own industrial design vision. They kind of operate more like an architectural firm - design vision and realization of that vision is more important than any profit nor popular opinion.
That is why Apple creates plenty of duds, but they also create a bunch of classics along the way. When they have a hit, they get so profitable that nothing will hurt them. If they create a dud, they scrap it and do it over again.
Reality is Apple just don't care about what you nor what everyone else think. Because they think they know you more than you know yourself. History shows that they are right, more times than not.
Glass scratch at level 6 and deeper grooves at level 7
I love mine but just can’t see paying $3000, so I waited and found a nice used on (still under AppleCare+!) for $1000 off…
Not a problem, the i9 screams and it runs MacOS and Windows like a dream.
Please help me, where can i find those rubber pieces on 1:18? I have to replace mine... For a 15 inch macbook pro from 2018. Thanks.
wait, this doesnt turn on without a fingerprint?BTW is there no way to upgrade cooling in this other than fans?
Why CZcams still doesn't have brightness settings ?
I gave my 16 inch macbook pro for speaker replacement today (distorted/dead within 3months of purchase) and guess what. They said they have to order for the whole top panel (aluminium body) which includes trackpad, keyboard, touchbar, (everything except logic board) because apparently the speakers and the these things are glued on to the body. Now it's covered under warranty, can't even imagine keeping this laptop post warranty!
Geez...the left speaker on my 2019 16" just blew out and it's starting to look like I can't just order a new speaker and simply replace it myself. So frustrating! I got this one refurbbed through the Apple store in September of 2020, so a warranty repair isn't in the cards for me. Crap.
Hi Sir/Madam... me and my team want to make a review video about macbook pro 16, when we want to talk about battery can i use your video footage to showing the battery ?
well you can see on left side there is storage upgrade just need some reballing :D
Everyone mentions that the trackpad can be removed / replaced with little to no drama. But nowhere explains how to remove it, can you please provide any information on how to do so. Thank you
yes
Glad that Apple finally brought back the scissors keyboard. Hope there will no complain about the keyboard anymore.
At least now is easier to change the thermal paste no?
You have a wonderful voice, thank you
I know it’s not OK that the Butterfly keys failed but it is so much better to type on. I loved the click, how quick it was between keys and just the overall premium feel of the keys. I also do believe that there were lots of people who loved the keys - though the fact that it failed caused a PR nightmare.
I loved it too, the clicks were awesome. It’s a shame it was a fragile design though
They took the easy way with a cheap solution instead of improving the desing. Typing on an unbroken butterfly Mac right now and I really like it. @@BlueRockEye
0:01
Me using 2019 macbook with blocked space after 2 weeks...
Is the WiFi card removable or Soldered ?
its funny to hear that“Apple listens to costumers”
If they didn’t listen to customers the new iPhones would still be stuck with that big ass iPhone 8 notch
I would leave part upgrade fun to desktop.
So basically get the RAM that you need right at the order screen because won't be able to change that after you get it.
Omg psyhical ESC key REVOLUTION ¨!!!!!!
Okay...here is a dumb question , can I use keycaps from the 2015 and under MacBooks? I ask because those big keys really screw up my typing Rhythm...
If I buy a 256GB Macbook Pro 2020, can I upgrade it’s storage ?
Doesn't anyone hold circuit boards by the edge anymore? No good reason to hold on to the logic board by the IO board connector
No bluetooth heatsinks, so at least that's nice.
It would have been nice if at least the SSD was proprietary (upgradable) like older retina MacBook Pros. The word proprietary itself does not mean upgradable, it means the type of socket it’s in, and that socket is removable, so it is upgradable.
I think with the T2 chip it’s impossible to have an upgradable SSD even if they wanted to add it
keco185 true, but maybe they could have partnered with a flash storage manufacturer to make a chip on the SSDs that would talk to the T2 processor and tell them it was OK. idk, they’re Apple, they could figure it out if they wanted to.
keco185 the T2 chip is a small squared chip, but how would that effect the SSD?
"proprietary"?
Juksemakeren it means removable
I’m sure apple was happy with the score
That voice............. That's why I subscribe this channel
there is something wrong with the ssd place
512GB SSD should be above the T2 chip
what? so the speaker grills are totally fake? or at least speakers aren't under them?
OOO A FEKING PHYSICAL ESCAPE KEY!!!!!!!!
What is that a12 chip doing on the motherboard ? 🙄
How to upgrade Storage 512 to 1TB in 16" i7 mackbook pro 🤔
They have the courage to make it non-upgradable landfill fodder. ALL PRAISE THE MIGHTY T2 CHIP! BESTOW YOUR BLESSINGS UPON THEE.
XeonProductions wish ppl protested like the Mac Pro and made it customizable.
They should make a scissor-switch replacement for people who are suffering from broken butterfly switches.
If they made it more modular it would need to be 0.5mm thicker which is unacceptable.
You do realize it’s thicker than last years model, Apple is willing to make it thicker but no modularity yet if ever.
Name a laptop with a removable cpu thats as portable as the macbook.
Spyridon N there’s some Lenovo ones with removable CPU’s, I forget what model but it was I think a 13” and wasn’t too much thicker than the MacBook
Some people want more than just function. Why don’t you just carry around a huge power supply hooked to battery powering a desktop motherboard with a beast of a CPU and some GPUs to boot? Then slap that to the back of a monitor! Boom! Now you have a portable computer! You could possibly have the most portable modular system ever conceived.....
Form and Function MUST work together. I hate bad designs no matter how well they “perform”. I believe you have shrink the boundaries to push the boundaries.
bro ive seen tablets more modular and thinner than the new macbook.
The bgm sounds like static
ok should I be worried I cant upgrade my ram my gpu or ssd?
I’m running OpenEmu on my MacBook Pro 13 2019 And I’m playing need for speed underground 2 I’m wondering if it’s putting to much stress on it please let me know
Why not just buy a 400-500 Euro Windows laptop and play the game? Those Windows laptops in general have 4-6x more FPS in games than a loaded MBP 13 2020 (which is faster than your 2019 model). Just make sure the Windows laptop has an Nvidia (MX230 or higher) or AMD graphics card (Vega 8 or higher).
If you’re emulating, please run Windows as it’s drivers are better optimized for things like that.
Video was nice and short as well as being to the point. Confirming that Apple take the Mic!........ not allowing self-upgrades on their latest 16 inch models. :-(
I liked the butterfly keyboard, I dunno what people were moaning about lol
Just got my Space Gray 32GB ram 2TB SSD 8GB ram. The new keyboard is heavenly.
And is it still going strong? Did you had any problems like flexgate or something else?
To be clear: I assume the battery has 6 components, not just the 2 big ones in the middle?
Another question: if you spill water on the speaker grills, will it damage anything?
I don't know. But for sure it will damage the warranty.
99% of laptop don’t have removable cpu and gpu ..
But you can upgrade or replace ram and ssds
Many have removable ssd's and RAM, so that when/if those components fail, they are replaceable. But you know that I bet.
@@RadiationNetwork what kind of computers do you have? I built several pics and upgrades several laptops, and not one have I encountered unseating issues like you said. Plus if your ram or SSD fails, you can easily replace it and upgrade, but good luck doing so with newer macbooks.
Plus soldering everything also makes them suspectible to thermal expansion, corrosion,... anyway, the only difference is it will be directly between the chip and motherboard, which is even more of a pain to fix
@@RadiationNetwork I didn't ask for anything, just pointing out the disadvantages of the Apple way.
Plus for the RAM and SSD, it's just some more slots, not even ribbons or what ever you mentioned. But you seems a bit too pent up to realize that bro.
@@RadiationNetwork are you joking. unless you bring around your desktop in car. a possible.
Ok now I can upgrade the fan 🙁
No heat pipe, uh? I was wondering why there was a thermal issue 🤦♂️
everything is soldered to the logic board and yet its still a pain in the ass to replace the battery, lol :)
Don't worry, next time they'll figure out how to fuse the battery directly into the mainboard.
Lol
@@DumahBrazorf don't give them ideas 😂
Why not 17 inch?
original switches from 2012
only thing I will say for apple is that the insides of their laptops look nicer than other laptops I've seen.
Is that a battery or batteries?
Idon'twannaFixit :D
A laptop for that price shouldn’t have any problems at all.
Got Game Powerful PC notebooks of good quality are not that much cheaper.. yes its an Apple pricing. Its a premium priced customer product.
stupid comment...
Dennis Schulz I this is correct. Though you do pay roughly 10-15% more than an equivalent (specs wise) product from a premium maker like Lenovo. The problem with MacBooks IMO is they force you into making several upgrades because a) the MacBook is not upgradable, b) not friendly with dual booting Linux and c) does not offer much in the terms of ports to a comparable Lenovo.
The net result is that you end up having to spend 30% more to buy a Mac that will give you what you need to work as a developer that develops for Linux at least part of the time.
This was not the situation before 2016... where a 2015 MacBook would be an awesome tool for most any kind of developer that needed to develop for Linux (at least some of the time)
@@Pluto1010 a good gaming laptop will be around $1500. The base price for the 16 inch Macbook Pro is what? $2300?
🤣
Bru it’s good to know I can’t change ram🙃 I’ll have to buy that 32 gigs
@@brandonchutt312 Save 4k Euro and grab a Windows machine IF you do not use Final Cut Pro. Adobe is the best imho.
Nice and small video review. Seems like I will pass. (dives back into the old 2011 mbp with changed spare parts) :(
0:55 what’s these on the left which looks almost identical to the ssd on the right?
it's a space for other chips for SSD, because 8TB is pretty big
MAXXmarketing GmbH I see, make sense but this one is 512gb so what is it on the left? Or it is sad too but they use less storage per chip while retain same 4 chips? So each chip for this model is 128gb?