Why is Mandarin declining in the West even as China rises?
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Learning of the Chinese language is falling in the West, but appears to be picking up in Southeast Asia and the Middle East.
CNA's East Asia Tonight dives deep into the reasons behind the waning interest for the Chinese language in some countries.
Maybe Mandarin studying dropped 50% in schools but increased 500% on internet as a self learning
You're right
Have a citation? The only thing I found was that online has grown 3x what in-person has, but as in-person is slowing, this means little.
Hi! I'm an online Chinese learner! Many of my friends have never attended actual classes, we have moved to the digital space and Chinese is still alive and well
There are free lessons in CZcams, why do it in University?
@@daveg5088 Why would he have a citation? He never made a claim, he said MAYBE. Maybe always also means maybe not.
Don't let the news media think for you, think for yourself.
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How do you know your thinking hasn’t already been shipped by the media and other constructs?
@@jeffcastaneda7010 coz they usually provide us with a tracking number.
CNA is a U$ sponsored prop channel based in Singapore!
Yeah you can believe whatever fairytales you want in your mind while believing free press is all a lie haha
I am Filipino and I want to learn Mandarin since I was a child. Just a personal interest, not political.
I'm from UK and also do the same, theres plenty of apps now to help
@@havencat9337 can you recommend some for me, please? I had tried Duolingo before, but I didn't like it
Pretty biased reporting. Enrollment in all “foreign” languages has gone down in all the traditionally English-speaking countries, not just Chinese.
Spanish learning has always been strong. And gaining popularity in the non-Anglosphere.
@@user-84-rg9-8n2Spanish language based country is not that rich area in business & employment section. Most of the people of the world don't settle that much in Latin America, Central America at all.
Hmmm according to Media Bias / Fact Check, CNA is rated: Factual Reporting: HIGH, MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY, Failed Fact Checks - None in the Last 5 years
What’s your source?
@@jeffcastaneda7010 he or she is just a typical low confident Chinese trying to argue his or her way out with ridiculous data plucked from the sky thats all. He or she is just talking nonsense here, just trying to save his or her Chinese Emperor face. can ignore.
大家好！我是墨西哥人，我从去年二月到现在都在学中文，我学习中文因为我想去中国旅游。 😊
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Now there is direct flight from Mexico to China
China has a lot to offer. As a Chinese myself; even I haven't been to all the places in China. It's huge. You will like Chinese food and architecture.
好的.
如果您环遊世界，您也需要学每个国家的语言吗？you don’t have to learn the language to travel. It’s too tired and idol way
West, or English speaking nations?
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u need to account European countries in which English not their first language
they think they represent the west . And the west thinks represent the world
Poorly researched and misleading report. NZ alone does not represent the West.
Where is this not true then? It's true in the US. I looked at the available classes and enrollment at my large public state college and it's less than half what it was when I was in the classes ten years ago. My 5th year Chinese class no longer exists, only goes up to 4th year now. Between professors and TAs, there used to be around 10 and now there's 3 or 4. Enrollment in the remaining classes is maybe 1/3 what it was.
@@conchobar0928 many european countries are making mandarin compulsory. while US is just one of those fringe crazy country that make something as basic as abortion into a national debate... it's hardly the norm.
@@conchobar0928 Again, if you want to make a sweeping conclusion on this subject you need to back up with more than just one set or one source of data. Going to university or college to learn a foreign language is less effective nowadays compared to many other avenues including online.
But this channel's reports are primarily written for Singaporean audiences.
@@awnv You claimed the news report was inaccurate, so it's actually on *you* to provide sources showing why. The news is just one source but you have provided 0 sources. This news report lines up with others I have seen from other countries' reporting as well, and lines up with my own first-hand experience. So, if you have data showing any of this to be wrong, we'd love to see it. If you don't have any sources to cite, well then....
Just like when Japan or Germany were the bigger economies. The whole world didn't learn these languages.
Japan had the best education at the time. The number of Chinese speaking Japanese increased because of the decline of the Qing dynasty and the rise of civil war. There was no future in China at that time if you learned Mandarin. Everyone including Chiang Kai-shek went to study abroad.
Japan is the 4th largest economy and Germany the 3rd largest economy. Both languages are very popular. What are you talking about?
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Both German and Japanese languages are not the most spoken languages in the world.
@@wangchung7599 Take away that 1.4B native speaker, how many in the world wanted to learn (such a low class language like) chinese? But tell me, how many non-natives would learn Japanese or German?
@@user-jj8kg5ef2t What is the reason for describing Chinese as a low-level language? Is it because of your hostility towards China? I noticed that your profile picture uses the Chinese word "extinction." Are you an anti-China troll from the so-called Greater China region outside of mainland China?
Refer to what happened in Japan and how Korean language studies are increasing
I learned Japanese by chatting to Japanese friends and learning the grammar in the library (there wasn't much stuff on the internet back then); now I am learning Korean on CZcams and also by chatting to Korean friends. I've NEVER studied a language at school as a subject. In my opinion, that's not where you should learn how to speak a language.
Mandarin will not decline. It is just that Singaporeans failed to master the language well because they overlooked the education in Chinese language. A lot of the top Chinese tech companies use Mandarin for daily communication and management even in their overseas offices in US, Europe, Singapore, etc. Singaporeans are struggling in these companies because they cannot get used to their way of communication.
Remember on the other side in China, more people can speak ENG too
@@perrylim9728 Exactly. Singaporeans thought they have the advantage of being multilingual. But not any more. The younger generation of Chinese were trained much better in both English and Mandarin. Their talents have also gone through a much tougher training process to stand out from their huge population. Like that how can Singaporeans keep the competitiveness on the international stage?
Originally the Chinese in Singapore spoke mostly Hokkien before PAP launched "Speak Mandarin Campaign".
@@banjiu10got Singaporean left ? Since so many china man immigrate here ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. And china man already give up their citizenship
Too many cultures in Singapore and Chinese is really hard. They focused on keeping the country afloat with international services. And they did well so. I personally study Mandarin, though. I am already bilingual.
Only overseas Chinese are interested in learning Chinese
Speak for yourself. I am not Chinese and I am learning Chinese, there are lots of groups and pages on Facebook where foreigners are learning Chinese.
The video only said the west, saudi arabia made it mandatory
Because it’s too hard. You can learn 10 languages in the same time you need to learn just mandarin.
Chinese characters are the problem. Even you learn them, you forget them quickly. I lived in China/Taiwan for 3 years and speak fluent Mandarin but after returning the North America for 5 years I can only read and no longer write nor remember most Characters.
@@GarrusVakarian-to2uhYeah! I can say 500 chinese words, read 300, and write 50 😂
Chinese grammar on the other hand is quite easy. You can avoid complicating conjugations like in the European languages. It hinders me being able to translate my Spanish into portuguese/italian and french.
@@TimLimDimSims that's why english and malay have prevailed as lingua francas. Simplicity always wins.
Not really. If you focus mostly in the characters, then it's going to take a long time to learn the language. But if you focus mostly in speaking and understanding, it'll be quiet fast
It's way too difficult a language for anybody with a European language background. You could learn French, Spanish and German in the time it takes to master Chinese.
This is not the reason.The only one reason is just that your motivation is not strong enough,that’s it. The same situation could happen to the Chinese people ,but they still try to learn English and never give up.
@@taiwan4563 No, that is a reason. yes it can be overcome with lots of motivation, but it's a very tough language for a European to learn. In the time it takes to learn Chinese one can learn English, French, Spanish and German.
For a European, no, it isn't too hard.. The spoken language definately is not so hard. There are not many good Chinese teachers so we learn online.
@@katharinabecker752 it's hard, and saying otherwise just makes you look silly. Look it's not just my opinion. The US government publishes the hours it takes to reach a B2 level for a native English speaker
French, Spanish 600-750 hours.
German 900 hours
Chinese 2200 hours
You can learn French, Spanish AND German in the same time to learn Chinese.
Actually, when America was rising, the majority of Americans didn't speak Navajo and many other Native American languages either.
English has always been the primary language in the US not Navajo
Yet English was never the official language of the country.
White Europeans are responsible for making America the most powerful country in the world as it is today. Not Indians. Bye..
That's a completely non connected analogy.
越来越多的中国人能说流利的英语。所以，新西兰人不需要学习普通话就能与中国人民交流。
Japanese and Korean are in the same difficultly category as Mandarin for Westerners, those countries have greater popular culture soft power. People can imagine holidaying in or being posted to these countries for work. Not the same with China.
Right, very few foreigners learn Chinese due to personal appeal. It's basically limited to those with family heritage or direct business interests.
I've found Korean and Japanese are equally powerful to Mandarin as a lingua franca around the world. That's how weak the media and soft power of modern China is globally.
Please tell me how an ordinary person can learn this extremely difficult language? Talking is hard enough writing it is near impossible
It’s actually easy!!
Nonsense, that's because the number of Chinese international students has significantly decreased. Previously, many Chinese students in universities took Chinese language courses to easily earn credits
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It is bacaues all languages can be learned from Al.
you don't learn well until full physical immersion into a culture. But you can learn a lot of grammar and hanzi with AI
Every language can be learnt from AI except for Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, and Lao
@@thorstenmarquardt7274 Yeah I am studying Chinese and needs real world immersion
I was lured in by the title, "Why is Mandarin declining in the West even as China rises?" and instead got a story on why learning Chinese is great for Indonesians.
English continues to thrive as the lingua franca of the world, and it is rated as easier to learn than the Chinese language.
Because China lacks attractive soft power. The reason I can speak a little Korean is not because I studied it, but because I love KPOP and watch videos every day.
even korean is easier than mandarin
Agree about the soft power. Young people aren’t going gaga over Kia and Hyundai (no offense meant to those automakers). They’re going gaga over the likes of BTS, Blackpink, NewJeans, etc.
Although Japan’s economy is not as robust as it was when I started studying Japanese more than 30 years ago, anime and Hatsune Miku have picked up the slack.
@@rollinghippo2940100% agree here. I don’t have to fumble with the pronunciation of a character because Hangeul is an alphabet.
Same with Portugues. Brazil is full of crime and poverty, but carnival is lit
this is the real answer.
Tbh, you should learn a language because you may have a connection(emotional) with the country or countries. I wouldn’t recommend to learn any languages at all if the language is just useful when you have little interest to it, because the time and investment are too high and when you’re not fluent, the language skill cannot accumulate on its own, you’ll easily forget it, so it will be a complete waste of time. Might as well invest time in something more useful and interesting to you personally. There is however a cheat to overcome the boredom setback, that is find content that are interesting in your target language, to make it more interesting.
You sound like lingosteve! BTW, that is meant as a compliment. He also instructs us to study content we find interesting.😀
@@chrisbunkaYeah! I mainly started learning Mandarin because it is the most spoken language with almost 1.5 billion speakers. I decided since Mandarin is standard Chinese, I would be able to communicate with a lot of people, unlike Arabic and Spanish with lots of dialects
The reason why i learned chinese before is because I want to marry chinese people. Since, I got married few years ago with indonesian woman, then I don't need to learn chinese anymore.
because they are learning on Duolingo for free😞
english is the mainstream language and other languages are dying or diminish from the scene. mandarin will stay in asia due to china's population size and china's economy.
The only way to make mandarin a global language like English and Spanish is with 2 changes:
1. Replace characters with Pīnyīn
2. Simplify the tonal system to make it accessible to people who don’t have the time to become professional opera singers just to learn one language
the tones are essential to know the meaning.
@@JalomMatia tones have been changed many times.
The full 3rd tone can be abolished. Making the language significantly easier.
@@thorstenmarquardt7274 the tones are not difficult to learn. and even if you abolished the characters and used pinyin, it would only work with having the tones, as there are too many words with the same spelling. the tones differentiate them. it's would be like having the words: cat, dog, sun, house, big, tall in the English language and they all have 4 or 5 different meanings. the language only works with tones, OR by adding thousands of new words.
@@JalomMatia tones are extremely hard for most people and they could easily be simplified.
The long form of the 3rd tone could be abolished so that the short form can be used every time.
The longer 4th could be less strict and just having a falling tone at any pitch should be enough.
The first tone should be any flat tone from mid to high as long as it’s flat.
What is the advantage of learning mandarin over spanish or french or german or other scandinavian languages?
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I'm not sure if this is accurate news. For example, I am currently learning German, Spanish and Hawaiian (ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi, NOT Hawaiian Pidgin English) but I'm learning that self-paced and on the Internet at the comfort of my home. Since I'm learning those languages based on personal interest and personal reasons, why spend time traveling to/from school and pay expensive tuition when I can accomplish the same thing while enjoying the comfort of my home? I don't report my language learning time to statistics and I don't mind being uncounted among the population of students learning a non-native language. Maybe a lot more people are learning Mandarin online on their own time versus enrolling in school to learn Mandarin and personal online learners like me are invisible to the statistics in question.
I feel it's become less necessary. Unlike Japanese, most Chinese who I've met overseas can speak acceptable level of English. And in the case you do come across a Chinese person who cant speak any English, there are plenty of Chinese anywhere who can act as an interpreter.
Mandarin online enrollment has increased
Also most people you meet in China can’t speak fluent English (google the stats if you don’t believe me) - which is fine as they live in China. Not to mention some Chinese people might take it the wrong way when you show up in China and start speaking English like a colonizer lol
This. Most Chinese/Korean people speak way better English than Japanese people
Thank you for that compliment ❤
Koreans basic english level is higher than japan.
and who will make more money? the one who speak only 1 language or 2? just because other can do it does not mean it is not important to know.
I agree. Californian here. 我有中国的老婆。
Vienna university used to enroll 100 students but 7~800 applied each year back even only five years ago, and now less than 100 apply.
The youth believes, English is enough. Of course that's not true. Concerning Chinese and Russian, there is a low level but constant propaganda against these countries in mass medias and in the social medias. (in case of Russia since decades, in case of China since a few years)
Chinese language speaking is also dropped in Singapore. English speaking person is increasing up to 70%. I felt is the cause of education policy. Likewise America abolished Chinese Confucius institutions to minimum.
I found that english is spoken less and less in HK..I just came back and hardly find anyone spoke English..
@@cashmerecat9269 Another 50 years from now, there won't be native Hong Kongers spoken English.
@@themiddlekingdom9121 They probably won't speak cantonese either.
There is a sense that locals tend to speak mandarin with a mixture of English. This is unacceptable to a chinese company interviewing a local chinese with just a basic grasp of the language.
You’re too politics
An Indonesian here passionately learning Mandarin. Well, you cannot rule out China from discussion when it comes to the language, but it's not exclusively about China either. There are Taiwan and sizable mandarin-speaking communities in Southeast Asia. And even if you see China as your adversary, learning the nation's language still matters, just like the US promoted Russian language during the Cold War.
but most of them can't speak mandarin hayaaa only old generation know how to speak dialect hokkien, teochew, hakka etc but few of them, a lot my friends doesn't even know basic mandarin
Also more productive to learn Traditional script, since that's the character set that the largely pre-Communist diaspora read and write with.
I find it easier to figure out Simplified later when I'm already familiar with the Traditional characters they simplified; the other way is noticeably more difficult.
不爱学就别学呗，白人不学好像不是什么大事情。爱咋咋地
If china wants to trade with the world, they should learn english. Even in singapore. I made the decision for my daughter to learn bahasa in pri school instead of chinese. Easier to score too hehe
How do you write Laogai in Mandarin ?
Dream on, CNA!
There will always be intelligent and knowledgeable elite Westerners who choose to study Chinese, and fewer Westerners learning this language demonstrate the precious of those learners.
Because the language is so damn complicated and difficult to learn!
It's actually easier than many.
Also you have to remember you have to take 4 semesters of a foreign language in american universities. The options are Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, Latin, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, German, and French. Pretty sure Japanese has absorbed most of the Chinese learners. I know this is in New Zealand but probably is true for the US as well.
Maybe it’s because the wildly use of the language learning APPs such as duolingo etc.
Not declining. Just not as mainstream curriculum. Two very different meanings, the former was worded in sensational narrative.. Culture should not be used as a tool of sensatiosm journalism. In Multipolar world.
Sounds like a very copium way to agree it's declining...
@@GaiusCaesar_ well you can go to McDonald's and you would never find Dim.Sums. You and Taiwanese alike and the media don't have to compete in Copiumist Culture.
@@ssuwandi3240 Why cope so hard? What's wrong with admitting it's declining in popularity?
How many people eat Dim Sum in the U.S? It might be popular in a specific niche, but that by definition means it's not popular...it's niche.
For a while, Chinese language interest was rising in popularity, but that isnt the case anymore. That's why they used the term 'declining.'
From my own anecdote, my CHIN 102 class was 3 students total & I live in an area with a large Asian population.
@@GaiusCaesar_ Dim Sums have been thriving in many China Town in metro cities.. if you're ever once in US, that area is popular go to list for tourists, and therefore not worthy the accusation!! But I heard McD failed in Vietnam so American burger seems to show a sign of declining Copium meal in Vietnam. That's 2 very different contexts that MSM seem to often get lost in translation. Click bait title. Sorry am not a Consultant to advise what's wrong with your class. Very likely Joeflation.
It's obvious that this channel censored a LOT, am not sure the point of arguing. Din Sums are popular American meals, everywhere in metro cities. if you offer a free immersive class am sure that soon will be in the mainstream. Thanks to Bidenomics and ALL supporters voted for the circus
A specific case of (Mandopop) Mandarin disappearing: KPop group TWICE has 5 members born in Korea who produce music products in Korean language; TWICE has 2 members born in Japan who produce music products in Japanese; TWICE has 1 member born in San Antonio, Texas, who produces music products in Anglo-American English; TWICE has 1 member born on Beautiful Sweet Potato Island .BUT. she does NOT produce music products in Mandopop Mandarin (e.g. the Taipei Golden Melody Awards). At least 3 members studied Mandarin as trainees, but I have never seen Ms Sally Tzuyu Chou engaged in Mandarin conversation with one of these students. JYPE has done Mandopop Mandarin on stage: A LITTLE HAPPINESS was performed by Got7 (Jackson Wang and Mark Tuan), also by MiChaeng (NOT Tzuyu).
yeah we're learning Japanese and Korean
It's not declining. I'm learning it! But it's super annoying that they teach you simplified characters at so many places. Time to end that crap and return to traditional in the Mainland.
In russia it has been booming for a few years already. We have even made it compulsory in elementaty schoolf on a Far Eastern district.
People have problems finding tutors online as well as offline, there is just too much demand at the moment.
makes perfect sense as its not an easy language to learn
The #1 reason， Girls！！！ I started learning chinese 8 months ago and it has really opened up my dating market. I think those learning to make professional advancement will always be small. Not many will be in international business or move to china. The vast majority will learn it as a hobby and their love and curiosity of the culture. Its a good way to make friends. This CNA interview is very last century as it seem to focus on the professional reasons. Today, when you can learn a new language, you can hop into a low cost budget plane and visit the country of that language. You can also make friends before you go. The dating opportunities are enormous! With the lost cost airlines, making a trip to your target language once a month is even possible! It opens up everything. Not everything has to be connected to a professional pursuit. It can be personal. A girlfriend, a friend, explore new places etc. etc.
Well, China does have a surplus of leftover women so it is easier to find one if you are of European, Australian, or American.
10 years ago a bunch of international students from China would take mandarin as easy credit courses in university - now there aren't as many of these international students
Some of my theories:
• Majority of the West views language learning as a nuisance compared to other non-Western countries. "They should speak English" mentality breeds this so language learning becomes more of a hobby for them as opposed to a necessity.
• With the advancement of A.I, people are just waiting for the day that we have headphones that can automatically translate between languages instantaneously.
• Learning Mandarin is hard and most people quit after the initial stages.
• In class teaching styles are outdated. Most engaging content can be studied and learned from online teachers more effectively than the classroom. It's not that classroom teachers are bad, it's that those teachers have to adhere to a curriculum that they have no control over.
Context: I'm an Asian American living in China and I meet a lot of foreigners that have lived here for 5+ years and can't speak a lick of Mandarin because of the above reasons.
most westerners (non-americans) actually enjoy learning languages for fun, but tones and memorising characters are in fact a nuissance. because its just inefficient.
Life is too short to memorise thousands of little images
Your post is a long guess.
No, it is because Because Chinese Mandarin it is a SYMBOL OF individual oppression. Boring and lacking unity as and pure power. Whereas Irish and Italian are infinite omens of individual power, unity, national strength with the generosity of everyone helping everyone together under a supreme leader.
@@thorstenmarquardt7274I actually only started learning Mandarin because they have almost 1.5 billion speakers. Other than that, I actually don't really like China at all. I have been learning for 3 years now but when people talk to me, I can't understand what they are saying. Many chinese people actually change the tones of words because their native language is not mandarin.
@@DinoBryce to be fair, it’s the same in Britain. I was able to communicate in English all over the world without any problems, but when I came to the UK, I couldn’t understand a word.
I learnt Chinese so that I can travel to Taiwan, not China. 🤗
I love TAiwan shows.
There are many Australians willing to learn Mandarin. The government encourages students to learn a foreign language and mandarin is taught in many high schools in Victoria.
CNA has forgotten about India. You could do another video with this headline
Why is Hindi language isn't been mentioned more often in most countries even as India rises?
Probably because of the way English is used in India. Pretty much any Indian person in a position to interact with the outside world would have some command of English.
@@zolandia5262 Agree and aware of their high proficiency in English. Still, Indian people do consider Hindi as their official language. Without learning Hindi, outsiders don't fully understand India in many aspects, just the same as outsiders don't filly understand China.
Because English is the most widely spoken language in India, and is growing every day. Not all of India is Hindi-speaking, especially in the south and north-east where English is more common.
@@shaungordon9737 Agree. That doesn't explain the lack of interest to talk about Hindi, as another language to learn. And, there are lots of Indians who are born in the west and countries that isn't India too. Would the frequency of mentioning about Mandarin decline if more Chinese in China speak more English? I doubt it will be. It is just that China is often seem more relevant than India to everyone.
@@zolandia5262 Indian don't speak English.
As my friend has said to me.
Indian speaks Inglish. They do not speak proper English. See the difference.
Mandarin is tough to learn.
After all, the Chinese are learning English.
Ang moh power
More like the Chinese have higher IQ to learn so many languages.
It's not though, russian, even spanish are harder, I speak all of them. Any language is hard, not to mention english, one of the hardest languages, with no good teaching system, because the natives don't get the problems.
The rest of the world are learning English as well.
@@oreradovanovi5204Is your native language English?
It's basically impossible to learn for most people. I speak 4 languages but Mandarin is out of my reach.
It’s because the West did not teach traditional Mandarin, but teach CCP’s simplified Mandarin instead
Ya it seems super challenging cause it’s so different from English and so many people speak English already
@@lazyjaney28it's not CCPs Mandarin, you sound like the typical western, CIA indoctrinated 🤡
I strongly disagree. The characters, pronunciation, and all other aspects of Mandarin which people consider to be difficult are made trivially easy by the use of technology (WeChat Audiobooks with transcripts, Hanping Chinese Dictionary/Popup, other popup dictionary browser extensions etc)
@@lazyjaney28you acting smart for a dumb person
It is not declining.. It is just ONLY Singapore declining and become Banana state.... They Singaporean adopt more USA values and forgot Chinese values.
Which is very good
You mean like in Xina?
Where Chinese values were eradicated by the CPC???
Well done sg
@@holliskwan533 Good, western values are rotten..God don't bless the Western but bless the Asian as they hold the values of God.. Look at at the world population based on Race and which God bless as numerous as the sand on the shore?
Don't kid yourself, China is becoming less and less popular internationally. They shot themselves in the foot with wolf warrior diplomacy.
I wish more people learned their own mother tongues like Cantonese, Hokkien, Shanghainese, Teochew, Hainanese, Teochew, Sandungese, ...
I know we still need to learn Mandarin but it doesn’t mean we have to abandon our own languages, right everyone?!
Pff.. its this generation. They don’t want to learn anything. They can’t even drive 10 miles without using their phone gps instead of learning a map.
‘Its this generation,’ you sound like a disgruntled old fart.
But all the Chinese billionaires sending the children's to the States 😂😂😂
that tide will turn
That is for making connections. Not to practice the philosophy nor learn things that are unknown in China.
That's cos those kids cannot compete in China so they go to easier universities.
@@shineluvslambiel really? i only know most trillionaires of china had officially migrated out of china. And high to middle income chinese all struggling to migrate to foreign countries, thousands even sneak into America as illegal migrants to seek freedom! its all over the internet of Chinese leaving in hundred of thousands, so please find the evidence your self if you are not blind.
Then return to their country, most of.
Aren't there different variations of Chinese language? There's simplified Mandarin used in mainland and traditional Mandarin in Taiwan. There is also the Cantonese language which also uses traditional writing and this is the culture the world is more familiar with and uses similar writing as Japanese. Then there's the Japanese, a very very old type of Chinese language derived from the Tang era and it has no similarity with Mandarin. Vietnam and South Korea abolished Chinese. I think the reason why Chinese is not popular is because of how fast it is spoken. You can fit a whole entire essay into a paragraph length. If you were to make a Matrix movie in Chinese, it would be like a 1 hour running time.
Japanese did not originate in Tang Dynasty China. In fact, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese have nothing to do with Chinese, they just borrowed Chinese words and characters. They have language logic that is different from Chinese, just as Spanish is different from Latin. The Japanese claim of a common cultural background with China is also a lie, they never had any influence on China in ancient times, it just better imitated the Chinese.
@@cowholy3031 True Japanese did developed its own language so yes it can be classified as a separate entity. However I believe the core culture the rule of law with the moral code, and many cultural aspects such as architect, technology and agriculture were influenced from the ancient culture of China. The problem is that this old culture doesn't exist anymore on the mainland. So I wouldn't really interpret as imitation. It's more like cultural preservation.
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 Rome no longer exists, but its relationship to Italy today cannot be denied. Like biological evolution, ancient creatures don't exist today, but that doesn't mean they haven't survived until today, and they have produced offspring. Of course, Japan has developed its own culture, but it cannot be seen as inheriting it from China, it just imitated it. Just as the Germans imitated the Romans, but the two were not directly related, the Germans only accepted the influence and rule of the Romans, but cannot be regarded as the inheritance of the Romans. Can the Spaniards be considered part of Arab culture because they were under Arab rule and cultural influence? The same applies to the Japanese.
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 The Italians know how to preserve the cultural heritage of their ancestors, and so do the Chinese. In the process of inheriting ancient Chinese culture, the Japanese do not have to do anything. In fact, the Japanese did a lot of damage to China's cultural heritage during WWII. Chinese artifacts were snatched and never returned. The Germans are imitating Rome, the Japanese are imitating China, too.
If you ask the Chinese if they see Japanese culture as part of their culture, you'll get an absolute no.
The geographical proximity of Japan and China should not be seen as belonging to the same cultural sphere. Anyone who says Turkey belongs to the Western cultural sphere is sure to be treated as a lunatic in Europe.
@@cowholy3031 That's the problem with Chinese academics. History is very complicated because it ruled over by different dynasties and culture. Tang is an extinct culture in China. A lot of the modern corrupt teachings was inherited from the Manchus. They were never called Chinese. That's why the average Chinese is poorer than the Japanese since the Qing dynasty. That's why you're inserting in WWII stories that has nothing to do with my comment. I'm done with Fei Hua.
meanwhile Korean language is rising in the West. You can attribute it to k-pop, k-dramas, k-beauty and k-films.
This is very likely part of the reason and unsurprising they didn't mention it.
I would say Korean is on the same level as Japanese in the West. I'm from Germany and we have plenty japanese classes and courses, more as korean language classes, but they are equal in interest, when it comes to people who want to learn those languages in school. Chinese and also Vietnamese are very rare, which is a problem, cause Germany has the biggest Vietnamese working force in Europe, but few people can speak or understand this language. It would be good if more people spoke Vietnamese in Germany, because that would help uncover the human trafficking in Germany that is carried out with Vietnamese workers. The language barrier is often a problem in social work or with the authorities. Japanese and Koreans in Germany mostly come from wealthy families, which is why there are no problems with them and they don't attract attention.
Now a lot of Chinese in China jobless, you think you can learn Chinese to work in China?
A lot of foreign investment already left China.
Because its TOO DIFFICULT!
Maybe because it's logographic writing? It can be so hard to remember so much character just to express something simple. It's not so hard in English with only 26 characters
Not English, but example Spanish or Italian
The company ( it a massive company) I used to work for has an unofficial policy where if the CV of an applicant shows that they can speak mandarin then it automatically goes to the trash can as it is believed that the applicant could be there to steal technology.
According to your sentence meaning. 1. You said that the management of a large company is extremely failed and that core documents can be easily stolen. This reflects the company's backward management philosophy and the lax behavior of managers.
2. The company believes that people who speak Mandarin will steal technology, so in turn, can it be understood that people who speak English will use barbaric behavior to obtain profits? Such as robbery, killing, spreading rumors and cheating, selling slaves, and forcing women to sell their bodies?
Wow, racism on display
@@luceafarul579how
Because it's useless now. 💯💯💯💯🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Fei Hua is the first Chinese word I learned because the average Chinese like to discuss so much Fei Hua that it makes the language less interesting and less engaging. They make you waste your time just so you can go around and do the same thing to others. Even Neo realized this was all bullshit and completely got over it within a minute. I know Fei Hua!
Im from iran and mandarin became one of the foreign languages you can pickup beside english and spanish but i didn't see anybody wants to learn Mandarin. You may ask why?? Because it was forced upon education system by the government and specially supreme leader. Why?? Because learning english means you can connect to the west and libertarian and democratic ideas and values especially U.S.A which the current goverment dislikes so much but by learning mandarin there is no threatening ideas against the GOV, there is no free thinking and democratic values in chinese GOV so no threat against current goverment
The Ayatollah is an assahola.
Chinese is a tougher sell than in 2010 when the world was more open. Another era of optimism is needed.
What was that interview with the Indonesian guy lol?
He gave some really poor reasons for why translation software could not replace human translators, and then when giving examples in Mandarin specifically, it took him like 30 seconds to then just give an example that anyone who has taken like 3 Mandarin classes could give you.
Many African people learning Chinese language for easier conversation with their China business partner
6:30 a lot of word are very similar….. yea… that is why you need more that 4 tones….
Maybe because they are being demonised so much?? Learning a language teaches CULTURE, and if you do business in a country, CULTURE is important...
I'm from UK and currently learning, theres plenty of apps now to help with learning - maybe thats why enrolment its down? so many good apps
有没有具体数字和幅度啊
Because of anti china propaganda only propaganda agents in anglo nations wish to learn mandarin
probably switching to Korean or Japanese, China has a soft power problem
*How many Westerners study the World’s 3rd, 6th & 10th largest languages?*
🇮🇳 Hindi - हिन्दी
🇧🇩 Bengali - বাংলা
🇵🇰 Urdu - اُرْدُوِ
Most thought learning mandarin proved you were smart or it’s a sexy language.. too many caught on that engish won 🏆
Next. Arabic and French is going to make a come back
Arabic maybe. French is a dying language and useless to learn.
I did HSK 5 and studied in China, but foreigners don't really have long term future in China, for instance it's almost impossible to get any kind of PR status there and build your life. Now I live and work in SEA country, and have gotten PR here and settled. Chinese hasn't really benefitted me at all tbh, it has more like been a personal curiosity. It's good to know if you travel in China or Taiwan, will make life much easier, but I would learn Japanese or even something completely different if I had to pick again. For the record, I am from northern europe
Simple conclusion
Recruiting native Mandarin speakers is better in terms of cost performance. Why do we need someone speak Mandarin as a non native.
Language is a tool. Not the income resource. If u wanna get decent venue, concentrate on learning technological fields
as a people was born around 1985, we start learning English from grade 7, and most of students have learned English for 6 years before getting to university. but just a very few people can use the English to speak and understand the speakers. i think the method of English education is really very bad.
Recently we saw in national media that Hungary and Serbia have Chinese schools. So has been up tick of Chinese school students in many countries as growing Chinese businesses and tourists around the world. 1.4 billion Chinese market is huge especially with growing young middle class.
Learning language at university is huge waste of money when you can learn it way cheaper on App.
This channel day by day has become more of a mouth piece of the UXA. Please don't call yourself as channel news Asia, cause you don't fit to represent Asia.
u r simply sick to think that Asia belongs to China? sorry, Most asian countries consist mostly of Malays, Indonesian, and Vietnamese, Chinese are minority, and it had nothing to do with China. So please get the fxck out of here k?
CNA is a subsidiary of CNN, a sarong party Girl Media in which the reporters always try to speak English with an American accent. Singapore education only produces people like Jocelyn that are proud to mock Malaysians but dare not criticize the Jews .
Learn Canto, it's more fun, and it doesn't hurt your jaws as much as learning Pu Tung Hwa.
The decline is due to the fact Chinese is hard to learn. It's tonal sounds and very complex alphabet.
I just started to learn mandarin😂
Same lol XD
I love it
This report focuses on western part of the world where the chinese influence are being crippled by the trade war.
Learning mandarin is still a very good thing for us who lives in the east, where the chinese influence are getting stronger, not just mainland china, taiwan and hongkong as well.
I may personally benefit a lot from this mandarin decline in the west, as the job demand for multi linguist like me somehow only grows.
Its called sinophobia, they will not bow down
More like Sino-indifference. Media produced in modern China lacks emotional appeal compared to Japan (via anime) and now South Korea (via K-pop).
@@doujinflip So the Chinese are a bit of the Germans of Asia?
Actually, we Indonesians are more familiar with Hokkien than Mandarin. Thanks to Chin Yung drama on national TV during 2000s till 2010s. Sin Tiauw Enghiong, Sin Tiauw Hiaplu and To Liong To drama are very popular...
I don't know what happened, but the names of the main characters in Chin Yung's drama in CZcams have changed recently... I dunno whether the Chinese change their national language or not... The examples are:
1. Thio Sam Hong became Zhang Sanfeng
2. Thio Bu Ki became Zhang Wuji
3. Yo Ko became Yang Guo
4. Kwee Ceng became Guo Jing
5. Kwee Siang became Guo Xiang
6. And many more...
As someone who reliably speaks one foreign language other than Spanish, with two others at a beginning level, there's a lot to consider with Mandarin. A big part of me would consider taking on Mandarin as an adventure. In many ways it could be a lot of fun. But, there's a lot of factors at work. I have seen too many foreign language learning disappointments for second language Mandarin learners- if they are not White, they are instantly disrespected by the vast majority of Chinese out there. Then, on top of that, Chinese people seem to love to belittle and tease foreigners when they try to speak Mandarin. After having gone through that before, I don't have the patience to go through it again with a different language. Chinese people also seem to love to belittle foreigners for any trivial reason they can think of- if you are even slightly over weight, for example. Too many anecdotal tales like this exist out there for me to spend my time learning Chinese.
This is true because Chinese consume Western news outlet so they consume the negative that US portrays of their minorities and surrounding countries. Younger Chinese in the present have been Americanized but it is true that they would only befriend or treat respectably a white European or American male than any other nationality because the worldview is essentially that you are second class citizens in US. A lot of Chinese are forgetting their past history and have become too materialistic and arrogant. This is true of East Asian countries, they also look down upon Southeast Asian countries.
New Zealand is a small country. Does it represent the West?
New Zealand is an Eastern Country, an Asian Country.
@@carlosmante New Zealand is a western colonialist outpost so does not count as an independent Eastern Country.
@@ensteffo True.
@@ensteffoerhm no?
@@ensteffono more Chinese women , why learn mandarin.
Love singapore, love china. Only 5% of china can supposedly understand english, compared to 30% malaysia.
I am from Hong Kong and don't like Mandarin. Will never learn it.
I doubt about survey. Just because schools cut the program is not the same as declining. You don’t need to go to school to learn languages.
The commentors on this channel are delusional. China is getting less and less popular internationally. People can also see that China probably isn't the future anymore.
Because I do not have the courage. I'm learning a bit of Russian, and it's quite intimidating. Cannot imagine learning Mandarin, which is at least twice as difficult as Russian for a Dutch speaker.
I lived in China in 2016-no thanks! I learned Spanish and I am now learning Turkish. If I never see China again-that would be great!
Why what's wrong?
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 I kept getting food poisoning-no matter where I went. The Internet was restricted-though fortunately I did have a VPN. The weather was rainy and humid. People were nice, but very difficult to read.
@@Alexander44665 Haha man which city were you in?
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Wuxi
@@Alexander44665 Ah that sucks - shame you had such a bad time.