GREATEST PLAYERS never to win a ring | Choosing the Starting Five

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Komentáře • 78

  • @HiNRGboy
    @HiNRGboy Před měsícem +5

    Small Forward position is stacked: Bernard King, Dominique Wilkins, Adrian Dantley, Alex English, Elgin Baylor...
    Shooting Guard: George Gervin is an obvious one, and David Thompson
    I'd probably go Baylor and Gervin for those positions

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +2

      Facts! That's a tuff one

    • @HiNRGboy
      @HiNRGboy Před měsícem +2

      @@Mandownsports love these discussions btw, just recently found ya'll, good stuff!

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar Před měsícem +1

      Good call adding Adrian Dantley.

    • @visage03
      @visage03 Před měsícem +1

      @HiNRGboy Adrian Dantley, from my rival high school and trainer to my buddy who played ball in France. I never thought to put him in my list.

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      @@visage03 Dantley was like that

  • @rdogletree4543
    @rdogletree4543 Před měsícem +3

    Very surprised that no one said John Stockton, all-time leader in assist and steals. They made finals back to back years and came the closest to pushing MJ to a game 7 in 1998.

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      @@rdogletree4543 yeah Stockton definitely has an argument

  • @5SK.RoyaltyTV
    @5SK.RoyaltyTV Před měsícem +2

    1. PG - Tim Hardaway
    2. SG- Tracy Mcgrady
    3. SF- Carmelo Anthony
    4. PF- Karl Malone
    5. C- Patrick Ewing

  • @HughJorgan09
    @HughJorgan09 Před měsícem +3

    I'm thinking that Sprewell shoulda at least been in the discussion.
    And, I'm not really sure where any uncertainty about Sabonis' defense would come from...he was damn near the best defensive big man in the league, fundamentally, even though, the refs kept allowing Shaq to lead with the strategically-placed elbow to the face, never calling the charge And, THAT was an older Sabonis, because, he had a full career BEFORE he even came to the U.S. to play ball. I remember him being the U.S. team's biggest concern, when they would face Russia in the Olympics. By the time he came to the NBA, he was no longer mobile enough to be any type of offensive threat, but, his defensive positioning & footwork was unquestionably elite.

  • @tylercanton3836
    @tylercanton3836 Před měsícem +3

    Starting 5
    PG: Penny Hardaway
    SG: Allen Iverson
    SF: Carmelo Anthony
    PF: Charles Barkley
    C: Patrick Ewing
    2nd team
    PG: John Stockton
    SG: Reggie Miller
    SF: Dominique Wilkins
    PF: Karl Malone
    C: Yao Ming

    • @crharper25
      @crharper25 Před měsícem

      I like this...I'd do a mixture of Penny, Bernard King, TMac, Barkley, Yao.

  • @archieleonard4299
    @archieleonard4299 Před měsícem +3

    1-5 no ring pick
    Starters bench
    P Ewing D Mutombo
    C Barkley S Kemp
    D. Wilkins. T. Mac
    O Robinson A I
    Jn Stockton P Maravich
    I think they win so my greats to choose from.

  • @Fixundfertig1
    @Fixundfertig1 Před měsícem +7

    Well, when it comes to starting 5 almost no one is necessary. Stockton, Iverson, Baylor, Barkley and Ewing could be a legit 5, but I wouldn't be mad if you remove any of them for Karl Malone either.

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +2

      @@Fixundfertig1 this was an interesting conversation/debate for sure

  • @user-pj2wy7ww7y
    @user-pj2wy7ww7y Před měsícem +5

    He was flipping plays at 8 of course he was getting paid in middle school

  • @visage03
    @visage03 Před měsícem +2

    Derrick Rose 1 AI 2 Dominique Wilkins3 Charles Barkley4 Patrick Ewing5 (1 layup away from the Finals)

  • @andrewmcfarlane4724
    @andrewmcfarlane4724 Před měsícem +2

    If Stockton outplayed MVP MJ, I'm sure Malone would've won like when Kyrie outplayed MVP Curry

  • @Poky-65
    @Poky-65 Před měsícem +2

    Great segment, thank god because I have alot of great players to choose from here is my picks. David Thompson, Gervin, Barkley, Baylor and Ewing.

  • @JonathanAnderson-qk8ce
    @JonathanAnderson-qk8ce Před měsícem +2

    Backup cp3, vince carter, carmelo anthony, sir charles, Ewing

  • @koolcaz7778
    @koolcaz7778 Před měsícem +3

    Dominique is ruthless ❤😅😂🤣

  • @manimal9871
    @manimal9871 Před měsícem +3

    Stockton
    AI
    Dominique
    Barkley
    Ewing

  • @killerman9309
    @killerman9309 Před měsícem +2

    (1)Penny,(2)Bubba chuck,(3)Elgin Baylor (4) Chuck,(5)Ewing, ---my bench is. (1)Cris Paul ,(2)T-Mac , (3)Reggie miller,(4) webber (5)mutumbo

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem

      Good list but give me Stockton over CP3 maybe

  • @jaydot4956
    @jaydot4956 Před měsícem +6

    John Stockton, AI, Melo, Malone, Ewing

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před měsícem

      No cp3 is wild and cough baylor

  • @MAJESTIC-ODDBALL
    @MAJESTIC-ODDBALL Před měsícem +1

    I like Penny and Rose at the 1 and even CP3 but what about Stockton? I did hear one of the ladies mention him, but you got admit 20 years and all time assists and steals leader and no ring is kind of heart breaking.

  • @deandregriffin9552
    @deandregriffin9552 Před měsícem +1

    I’m here for the hoop talk and Dominique

  • @crharper25
    @crharper25 Před měsícem +2

    I'm going Penny, Bernard King, TMac, Barkley, Yao. Bench....Rose, Baylor, Wilkins, Malone, Ewing.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Před měsícem

      ewing better than Yao by a lot., Stockton the best pg after Magic.

    • @crharper25
      @crharper25 Před měsícem

      @@soramirez5473 that's beautiful...& not true....Stockton is top 5 PG...But not 2nd. 2nd would be Isiah or Oscar. & Penny offers more variety than John...he can score at a high clip, rebound, assist & defend. Penny was pretty much the second coming of Magic.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Před měsícem

      @@crharper25 Isiah and Oscar dont have the assists or steals numbers that stockton has. I'll go by stats. you go by whatever criteria you choose. I guess cuz Penny just "looks" cooler.. Stockton better at facilitating and playing the passing lanes. bottom line.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Před měsícem

      @@crharper25 it is beautiful. stats show production. facts are beautiful I agree.

    • @crharper25
      @crharper25 Před měsícem

      @@soramirez5473 Yes Stockton has the stats he played longer....but he's definitely not a better hooper than Penny. Penny is 6'7, better handle, better shooter & a better defender. Stockton has more assist because they pretty much ran the same pick/role play.

  • @terrence946
    @terrence946 Před měsícem +2

    Did they over look T-Mac???

  • @HopeandPeace4
    @HopeandPeace4 Před měsícem +2

    Great show

  • @soramirez5473
    @soramirez5473 Před měsícem +1

    Stockton, Miller, Barkley, Malone, Ewing. that squad GOTTA win a ring right? AI and Melo off the bench.

  • @davidangeron3365
    @davidangeron3365 Před měsícem +2

    I STAYED IN SCHOOL!!! And, damn proud of the fact!!!

  • @fullmetal1766
    @fullmetal1766 Před měsícem +2

    Stockton Iverson Baylor Malone Ewing

  • @DarricSmith-vt1ci
    @DarricSmith-vt1ci Před měsícem +2

    They have to at least made it to the NBA finals.

  • @nostalgicgamer1363
    @nostalgicgamer1363 Před měsícem +2

    Tnac a 3 right

  • @HopeandPeace4
    @HopeandPeace4 Před měsícem +2

    Greats NBA Players with no rings: from every era in my opinion: They only need 3 years together.
    S.G: George Gervin/ P.G: Earl Monroe/ SF: John Drew/ P.F: Maurice L./ C: Nate Thurmond: (74-77)
    S.G: Reggie Miller/P. G John Stockton/ S.F: Dominique Wilkens/ P.F: Karl Malone / C: Patrick Ewing; (92-95).
    S.G: Allen I/ P.G: Steve Nash/ S.F: Tracy McGrady/ P.F: Shawn K./ C: Mutombo: (98-01).
    S.G: Anthony E./ P.G: Luka Doncic/ S.F. Tyrese H. /P. F: Bam / C: Joel Embiid: (2021-2024).
    Karl Malone: 2x MVP/2x All-Time Star MVP/3x All Def. 1st Team/ Scoring Prowess- Top 5 all-time/and more: did way more than Chuck.

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      @@HopeandPeace4 dope list and concept 👌

    • @HopeandPeace4
      @HopeandPeace4 Před měsícem +1

      @@Mandownsports I thought about Penny Hardaway too/ between Reggie and Dominique it was a hard decision there.

    • @OlJackBurton
      @OlJackBurton Před měsícem

      Gervin and Baylor didn't play in the same era. the SG should be Lenny Wilkins or Jerry Sloan.
      Gervin should be on the same team with Pete Maravich/Sidney Moncrief/Michael Ray Richardson, Walter Davis, Bernard King/Adrian Dantley/Alex English/Marques Johnson (SF was absolutely loaded in the late 70s and 80s), Terry Cummings/Tom Chambers, Artis Gilmore/Bob Lanier
      also
      Rose/Dame/Westbrook, Harden, Melo/George, Blake Griffin and Cousins

    • @HopeandPeace4
      @HopeandPeace4 Před měsícem

      ​​​​@@OlJackBurtonMy S.G should not be Lenny Wilkins or Jerry Sloan because they are not the only SG without rings in Baylor Era, in my 1st line era. / Gervin do not have to be on the team that you listed from your SF. list

    • @OlJackBurton
      @OlJackBurton Před měsícem

      ​@@HopeandPeace4 Gervin didn't play in the ABA until 1973 and didn't play in the NBA until 1976. he never played with Gus Johnson or Elgin, only the very last year of Thurmond and only caught the last 2 years of Bing. Gervin was the oddball in that group so that's why i suggested Lenny or Sloan to replace Gervin and gave George a completely different team (Moncrief, King, Cummings and Gilmore and others). replacing Elgin with Thompson still makes the starting unit with Gervin a historical unit that never played against each other at the same time, at least near their primes...

  • @felixdiaz1773
    @felixdiaz1773 Před měsícem +2

    Good morning Dominique

  • @razkable
    @razkable Před měsícem +2

    The starting 5 is cp3 harden baylor although they gave him a ring otherwise give me gervin at the sf and malone at the pf and ewing at center but barkley and malone deserve to be on the list over ewing so just have them both no ewing

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      @@razkable I can dig it. That Harden pick is tuff though

  • @ReddWolf31
    @ReddWolf31 Před měsícem +3

    I'm late but in the building big dog lol...

    • @ReddWolf31
      @ReddWolf31 Před měsícem

      AI, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, Barkley...throw Penny, Tmac, Vince Carter, C Webb, Yau Ming in there too

    • @ReddWolf31
      @ReddWolf31 Před měsícem +1

      Is so many bro, Reg Miller, Nash in there too

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem

      It's definitely alot

  • @JonathanAnderson-qk8ce
    @JonathanAnderson-qk8ce Před měsícem +2

    Penny, t Mac, grant hill, karl malone, Dwight howard

  • @ronduece9066
    @ronduece9066 Před měsícem +2

    This is my first time watching this pod. Watching this episode is like drinking E & J. Y'all act like Stockton never played

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      Stockton gets all my respect for sure but...... Penny

    • @crharper25
      @crharper25 Před měsícem

      ​@@Mandownsports facts....Stockton is great....but we aint running 700 pick/roles the whole damn game. 😂😂

    • @ronduece9066
      @ronduece9066 Před měsícem

      @@crharper25 niggas be mad at non flashy wypepo. 😭 Pick n roll is the main play in 2024. Plus he all time in steals 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @ronduece9066
      @ronduece9066 Před měsícem

      @@Mandownsports ain't mad @ Penny. Potential 🐐

  • @georgetheturthurts
    @georgetheturthurts Před měsícem +2

    How are u all leaving out Derrick rose

    • @Mandownsports
      @Mandownsports  Před měsícem +1

      @@georgetheturthurts D Rose is definitely a monster

  • @davidangeron3365
    @davidangeron3365 Před měsícem +2

    Hello to dearest #Dominique!!!

  • @Radamesprimez
    @Radamesprimez Před měsícem +2

    This the shit the crazy dude was talking about when taking shots about lebron family. I know he going crazy right
    Now😂😂😂😂she corny AF