Van Lathan on Confronting Kanye Over "Slavery was a Choice" Statement at TMZ Offices (Part 8)

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    In the latest clip, Van Lathan reflected on his decision to verbally confront Kanye West over his views on slavery. He explained that he wasn't going to say anything until Kanye challenged the room at TMZ's offices. Even though Van understood what Kanye was trying to say with his "slavery was a choice" remarks, he still felt the rapper viewed slaves as weak while he viewed them as signs of strength. He revealed that he spoke to Kanye after their verbal exchange and Kanye even invited him to his home to continue their discussion. Took a look above to hear why Van Lathan rejected the invite and why he wishes he hadn't.
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  • @vladtv
    @vladtv  Před 2 lety +33

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  • @masonldn8647
    @masonldn8647 Před 2 lety +495

    TMZ didn't want this brother to grow beyond their bubble .

    • @1990758
      @1990758 Před 2 lety +1

      That's a supposition

    • @ishmael802
      @ishmael802 Před 2 lety +11

      I think TMZ just wants TMZ to be the star and the not the employees.

    • @masonldn8647
      @masonldn8647 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ishmael802 100%

    • @kacthinkforyourself6968
      @kacthinkforyourself6968 Před 2 lety +8

      💯🤘🏾👑 I'm glad Van left and expanded his portfolio of work. I wish him well

    • @SamanthaBaker71
      @SamanthaBaker71 Před 2 lety +5

      Say It for what it really is, Harvey Levin don’t want anyone including Van Lathan to grow beyond their bubble….

  • @detroitisback8021
    @detroitisback8021 Před 2 lety +405

    Respect to van. He's a extremely talented individual. Van has a voice that's stronger than I think he even realizes

    • @MichaelLee-pl4sh
      @MichaelLee-pl4sh Před 2 lety +2

      Just commenting because I like your user name! Dope!

    • @averyshenandoah1637
      @averyshenandoah1637 Před rokem

      Who cares what he thinks? The fact is most people didn’t even realize he was gone lmao y’all hate racist so much unless it’s a black one lol he argued with a man who is mentally Ill and y’all clapped like seals

  • @Convo_starters
    @Convo_starters Před 2 lety +137

    “I can’t have my ancestors be the mascot for that” beautifully said

    • @animeactivated
      @animeactivated Před rokem

      Well our ancestors were selling us to white Men . Sorry you been fooled. Black sold blacks to Europeans

    • @Jaoquim-dq1ui
      @Jaoquim-dq1ui Před rokem

      Lmfao Ye didn't even say that. Bet yall weirdos didn't even get it.
      400 years sound like a choice. They put it in the school books, and you didn't even think or question it.
      Just like their white Jesus and Christopher Colombus "discovering" America. White people writing History and feed it to your children. The man is too ahead.

    • @manuelmarquez2514
      @manuelmarquez2514 Před rokem

      Exactly. That’s why to me fuck Kanye west forever

  • @MillerfromManila
    @MillerfromManila Před 2 lety +154

    When Van said "My ancestors our sacred to me." 😭 Respect!

  • @DrCareyYazeedTV
    @DrCareyYazeedTV Před 2 lety +269

    This brother is phenomenal! I don’t think Van realizes how powerful his voice is and how essential it will be in the future of Blacks progressing in this country. I’m glad he realized he was worth more than TMZ and found his own voice and space to create.

    • @zargrza
      @zargrza Před 2 lety +5

      Y’all are 🐑. He went from working from one white man to another white man who is probably more racist. Bill Simmons literally gets paid for Van to speak. How is that powerful?

    • @just2fresh814
      @just2fresh814 Před 2 lety +1

      He's a certified clown

    • @pauloskidane2819
      @pauloskidane2819 Před 2 lety +1

      @@zargrza thank u

    • @2516562101
      @2516562101 Před rokem +1

      Please stop saying blacks lol

    • @bakslayer3032
      @bakslayer3032 Před rokem

      Dr. Racist here... lol

  • @wisemenproduction4772
    @wisemenproduction4772 Před 2 lety +221

    Even to this day I’m glad you put principles over a celebrity moment. You did right by not going

    • @officialconsciouscommunity
      @officialconsciouscommunity Před 2 lety +1

      which he also regrets..

    • @Kim-427
      @Kim-427 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree he did do the right thing. He didn’t let Kanye control/spin the situation. It went the way it was suppose to.

    • @Kim-427
      @Kim-427 Před 2 lety

      Okay

    • @Cocochantelle
      @Cocochantelle Před 2 lety +8

      I think he was saying it could’ve stimulated a larger conversation beyond just those two, that could’ve been beneficial to society, had he gone. But there’s no way Kanye and the Kardashians would’ve let that happen; it would’ve just been damage control for them.

    • @ishmael802
      @ishmael802 Před 2 lety +2

      That took stones.

  • @beachgrl1365
    @beachgrl1365 Před 2 lety +30

    I love how Van responded to Kanye. You were honest and sincere. You backed up what you said , you explained it to him intelligently, without belittling him.

  • @carlcwms
    @carlcwms Před 2 lety +145

    I have nothing but respect for Van! He said what so many others should have said to Kanye’s face.

    • @nlee4566
      @nlee4566 Před 2 lety +7

      I believe some people did. Kanye don't listen to nobody unless they got a money making platform.

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +3

      Kanye was right though… 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Maybe you should go back and watch the full interview and listen to what Kanye actually sad!!!

    • @ONETAKEBKLYN
      @ONETAKEBKLYN Před 2 lety +2

      @@mosthighlawson3872 I agree , it was maybe the choice of words and how it was delivered and I feel what he was saying..

    • @Shutup-hk7pb
      @Shutup-hk7pb Před 2 lety +1

      @@ONETAKEBKLYN Fr Kanye has a tendency to use analogies and with the slavery choice thing I think he was tryna say that he thinks they had the wrong mindset and kinda chose to withstand the harsh consequences unfairly given to them because of the color of their skin and not everyone able to dig deep enough into what he said cuz everyone sees him as a crazy dude now and as a villain and like makin him look bad for speaking his truth regardless what people have to say Kanye’s gonna be Kanye

    • @32tolife38
      @32tolife38 Před 2 lety

      @@Shutup-hk7pb I agree with Kanye as in the mindset of now. I don't think anyone chose slavery all those years ago but people are still in mentality of being slaves when it just isn't true today. They play the victim is what I believe he meant today when everyone has the same opportunity as anyone else in America. Sure, there are individual racist of ever race but you can still do what you want and no one is being held as a slave against their will. We wouldn't have any black celebrities or rich, successful ones if that was the case but we do.

  • @dro408sj4
    @dro408sj4 Před 2 lety +67

    This response is the best response I have ever heard. He touched on the past and present and the physical and mental and how it affects everyone differently. Genius!

    • @avon_mack
      @avon_mack Před 2 lety

      If I could give a billion likes for this

  • @leewilson5151
    @leewilson5151 Před 2 lety +145

    Hearing Vlad recite What Van said to Kanye at TMZ just shows Van's intelligence and mental capacity. I would not have been able to string a response that on point and in such short amount time with the same effectiveness.

    • @zargrza
      @zargrza Před 2 lety +1

      Wtf you talking about. Listen to Vlad recite what Kanye said. He literally said mentally.

  • @DWeb0414
    @DWeb0414 Před 2 lety +104

    Van will forever be remembered for the Kanye Rant Priceless Didn't bite his tongue let him know how he Truely felt The look on Ye face.

    • @breezonbrown4412
      @breezonbrown4412 Před 2 lety +14

      And Kanye was right at the end 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @RADIOACTIVEYOUTH
      @RADIOACTIVEYOUTH Před 2 lety +3

      Kanye wasn’t wrong though. In fact Kanye been proven right over and over again over the past couple years

    • @ItzKhalifa310
      @ItzKhalifa310 Před 2 lety +6

      @@breezonbrown4412 facts.. the only thing I disagree with Kanye is where he said it..

    • @cpasse15
      @cpasse15 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ItzKhalifa310 exactly

    • @DWeb0414
      @DWeb0414 Před 2 lety

      @@breezonbrown4412 I'm wit you on that don't get me wrong but that was some great tv nevertheless.

  • @Ana-bf4sp
    @Ana-bf4sp Před 2 lety +28

    As native to NZ I feel this brother spoke for all indigenous around the world. ✊ Thank you for speaking when majority of us can't.

  • @davidlowery2162
    @davidlowery2162 Před 2 lety +186

    This guy is a lot more introspective and intelligent than I assumed just from seeing him on TMZ. I hope he gets his own vehicle from these and other interviews. He has some great points.

    • @lindy8077
      @lindy8077 Před 2 lety +8

      Don't hold your breath. Haven't seen his BETA ass on anything worthy since. I just feel bad for the future offsprings that come through these weak men. They ain't going to even have a fighting chance in America. They'll most likely make the choice to be victims.

    • @mornediablo7819
      @mornediablo7819 Před 2 lety +26

      @@lindy8077 lol the things you folks say . Just say that you hate when blk ppl talk about how bad slavery was , just say that punk. Who's being the beta now

    • @ZabDevin
      @ZabDevin Před 2 lety +12

      @@lindy8077 Slavery was a choice, too, right? You sound like a white suprematist.

    • @bigj-dubb4068
      @bigj-dubb4068 Před 2 lety +18

      He has a popular podcast called Higher Learning. He's a smart, funny guy. Check it out.

    • @dta1329
      @dta1329 Před 2 lety +12

      He won an Oscar last year

  • @latishabrooks9046
    @latishabrooks9046 Před 2 lety +112

    I respect Van for the way he explains what his response was and why he said it . Very intelligent man .

    • @thebagnchannel
      @thebagnchannel Před 2 lety +1

      He's one of the reasons I'm here watching Vlad and someone I've studied prior to creating my own VLOG and Podcast.

    • @Beetwate305
      @Beetwate305 Před 2 lety +1

      I wish he would take on Candace Owens

  • @jhezzy
    @jhezzy Před 2 lety +243

    Nothing but respect for Van. Love the truth, honesty and self reflection. And the missed opportunity will come back around, and it will be when you most need it and can most appreciate it.

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent Před 2 lety +3

      He's a clown

    • @luchalerae7687
      @luchalerae7687 Před 2 lety +1

      To hell w/You and him

    • @mornediablo7819
      @mornediablo7819 Před 2 lety +2

      @@arizonaFIREent you white boys live kanye now huh, I wonder why 🤔

    • @WildindianTv
      @WildindianTv Před 2 lety +2

      Slavery was taught to us in reverse our ancestors weren’t slaves. Slaves meant servant of your family or anyone else. We were called slaves when our Indian ancestors entered the corporation on their own rather than being with the tribe. They killed a lot of our warriors and chiefs and women and kids. We experienced a Holocaust fuck slavery we were done wrong on our own lands by black and white Europeans moors and other traitors!

    • @jhezzy
      @jhezzy Před 2 lety +1

      @@luchalerae7687 right back at chu! Oh, and you really hurt my feelings with your words 🤣🤣🤣

  • @donny357tx
    @donny357tx Před 2 lety +164

    Man i laugh so hard at kanye during that interview😂😂😂😂but respect to Van he was on kanye...nothing but respect homie..wish you the success

  • @gigglemaniarunninwild2207
    @gigglemaniarunninwild2207 Před 2 lety +127

    This guy is winning me over, that was well said

    • @1990758
      @1990758 Před 2 lety +1

      So without him you were lost

    • @gigglemaniarunninwild2207
      @gigglemaniarunninwild2207 Před 2 lety

      @@1990758 no i just always heard such a ridiculous hyperbole take from the likes of conartists like sharpton

    • @1990758
      @1990758 Před 2 lety

      @@gigglemaniarunninwild2207 The bottom line is this guy's telling us what we want to hear. No celebrity of any color. Is no athlete of any color or personality person can teach me anything about life.

  • @themainecr
    @themainecr Před 2 lety +61

    That was so beautiful what he said and I’m paraphrasing can not let my ancestors be seen as a symbol of weakness when they are not image of strength. Most powerful thing I have heard someone say on any vladtv interview. I hope this brother has much success.

  • @Antknee30
    @Antknee30 Před 2 lety +211

    I really respect the way Van Lathan stood strong on his words and convictions on checking Kanye. It took some integrity to refuse to go along to get along.

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +15

      He didn’t check Kanye!!! Kanye stood on what he said… maybe you should go watch the whole interview… and 400 years of slavery was a choice!!!

    • @DaCoachcancoach
      @DaCoachcancoach Před 2 lety +7

      You’re a go along get along type of person because , you don’t think for yourself and integrity comes from standing up for yourself vs going with the crowd. Your statement is that of sheep.

    • @rationalsportsfanatic7416
      @rationalsportsfanatic7416 Před 2 lety +15

      @@mosthighlawson3872 Instead of "was a choice", it should be said, "is a choice" since the slavery Kanye was talking about is the mental slavery that we are currently under and have been under since the ending of chattel slavery in 1865. The mere fact that he said 400 years explains this bc chattel slavery only lasted around 245 years (1619-1865). So Kanye wasn't saying that our ancestors 400 years ago chose to be slaves. Anyone regurgitating that lie is operating from a place of ignorance. He was saying us continuing to be slaves TODAY, is a choice.

    • @versatillion15
      @versatillion15 Před 2 lety

      It’s not hard to stand on a scripted statement

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +5

      @@rationalsportsfanatic7416 I agree with you… it’s funny how he makes slave clothes and shoes and we buy it up… we can’t get rid of that mindset… he was saying we need to think free feel free and be free!!! It’s a choice to remain in this position…

  • @Currygoatpapi
    @Currygoatpapi Před 2 lety +62

    At first i thought he didn’t understand what Kanye was saying; after hearing this I rock with him 100% u can’t dismiss our Ancestors and the pain they had to endure for us to reach this point of questioning their Morality

    • @mearllee3511
      @mearllee3511 Před 2 lety +5

      Naw…that just means U & Van still don’t understand what Kanye meant by what he said.

    • @Shutup-hk7pb
      @Shutup-hk7pb Před 2 lety

      @@mearllee3511 I think what Kanye meant was similar to like manifestation and like the mindset people have on certain situations and that the slaves had the wrong mindset idk if that’s right but lmk

  • @meandthemoon2154
    @meandthemoon2154 Před 2 lety +27

    I respect him on such a high level. Thank you Van!!

  • @DecaturQue
    @DecaturQue Před 2 lety +152

    Glad he explained this. I always wondered what his full thoughts were.

    • @DaddyLogic
      @DaddyLogic Před 2 lety +18

      He didn't explain it bruh. He gave his version which is incorrect.
      Kanye meant "How could we stay slaves when it was more of us than the whites? We should of been killing them and slowly taking them over"
      Think about the movies, it was only a slave master with all the slaves lined up. All they had to do was kill the master and any whites that showed up.
      Put it like this, if a dude comes up with a gun and it's 10 of us, we could all rush him because he can't kill 10 of us at the same time (Proof, soldiers in the middle east that get captured by terriost because they run up and aren't scared of the gun)
      The fact you couldn't understand Kanye without Van smearing him is amazing to me. Critical thinking has been lost.

    • @jordanholland7304
      @jordanholland7304 Před 2 lety +6

      Crypto a lot of people will miss what you just said, I agree with you

    • @TC-vc7oe
      @TC-vc7oe Před 2 lety +19

      @@DaddyLogic Their bullets outnumbered us and never in the history of man has 100% of any huge group of people agreed on everything. Many Many, MANY revolts were snuffed out by ONE SNITCH. Kanye is an ...... (Not good noun)

    • @TC-vc7oe
      @TC-vc7oe Před 2 lety +30

      @@DaddyLogic Kanye's lunatic rant made it seem as if our ancestors as a whole just accepted slavery. Ignoring that 300 warriors can get undercut and destroyed because of ONE coward. Anyone who thinks we "chose" to be in that situation is THE FARTHEST THING from a critical thinker. Look at the Nat Turner revolt, thwarted by a snitch...

    • @eternalflames2162
      @eternalflames2162 Před 2 lety +16

      @@DaddyLogic u need to do more research. In America enslaved Africans we're never the majority of the population. U talking about some shit u seen a movie lol. That ain't facts.

  • @beyondbeleef1013
    @beyondbeleef1013 Před 2 lety +86

    Well put by Van. He put Kanye in his place and articulated it so well there was literally no comeback possible

  • @deelightt9
    @deelightt9 Před 2 lety +35

    He did the right thing! You go Van

  • @hanielnasheed7189
    @hanielnasheed7189 Před 2 lety +12

    The jewel here is, standing strong on what you say, doesn’t mean you turn your back on the conversation!

  • @johngalt1967
    @johngalt1967 Před 2 lety +17

    Harriett Tubman said it was a choice! Our generation is so ignorant, just because you don't like the alternative, doesn't mean that you didn't have a choice!

    • @dolobrolic6066
      @dolobrolic6066 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly.........👍🏾

    • @kkw-pal1178
      @kkw-pal1178 Před 2 lety +1

      Choice? We're still in it boo. Ha! He dogged Harriet out! F Kanye crazy arse!

    • @D1Snr
      @D1Snr Před 2 lety +1

      Google what he said about Harriett Tubman

  • @crystalriley9671
    @crystalriley9671 Před 2 lety +17

    Our Ancestors thank you, Van. To this day, he is the only one that confronted that clown" Ye" and put him in his place about this crap. You are the true dream realized! Much love brotha!

  • @BuiltLegendzTV
    @BuiltLegendzTV Před 2 lety +173

    I’m glad you made that decision Van cause I definitely would’ve felt like you sold out if you took that picture the next day. I remember watching that clip and feeling like man, somebody stood up to this clown. I gained so much respect for you then and even now I have a new found respect for you my brother. Keep being a revolutionary and changing the world 1 step at a time. ✊🏾

    • @chuck5436
      @chuck5436 Před 2 lety +6

      Listen to "Saint Pablo" by Kanye. He's talked about "slavery's a choice" for a long time. He's an inarticulate guy and he's much better at expressing himself in music. If you listen to the song you'd know exactly what he was trying to say. So called "fans" canceling Kanye were never even fans in the first place or they would have heard "Saint Pablo" before.

    • @BwoodsGod27
      @BwoodsGod27 Před 2 lety +7

      But slavery was a choice tho….Kanye said nothin false with that statement.. fight or b held captive. What would u choose?

    • @eon001
      @eon001 Před 2 lety +6

      BuiltLegendzTV
      Yea I would have hated to see Van break bread with Kanye after that moment. Kanye deserved to stew for a bit. He doesn't get to flex his celebrity and make things alright again. Ef that.

    • @ChristopherX30
      @ChristopherX30 Před 2 lety +7

      @@BwoodsGod27 If you fight, lose, and then become enslaved anyway, what then? The Africans were literally overpowered, physically and mentally. They were broken.
      If you're looking at it like, "I could remain here, or I could hold my breathe until my brain stops working," and the person didn't choose to hold their breathe until they're life expired, I guess I see your point.

    • @demontreten
      @demontreten Před 2 lety +6

      @@ChristopherX30 what then? You keep fighting. Either you die for a cause or live for someone else. Ye had a point. As a matter of fact slaves didnt become free bc they fought their enemy, they were let go. Their enemy found a better way to make a profit off of them and thats exactly what happen then and whats happening now. The only reason we focus more on white folks owning slaves over everybody else who was doing it at the time is bc white folks benefited the most from it. But this is where Ye was wrong, the slaves that were born into slavery were doomed from birth bc that was life to them. The 1st batch of slaves shouldve fought way b4 white folks got their hands on them bc what most ppl dont know is that those slaves were slaves in africa 1st. Thats how white folks got their hands on them bc they were for sell by other africans, who saw them as outsiders, criminals etc.

  • @pr3tyrocx441
    @pr3tyrocx441 Před rokem +4

    I don't know if Van will ever see this but this man is such an inspiration to always speak up for what you believe in. So much respect.

  • @CryptoDun
    @CryptoDun Před 2 lety +92

    Dope I’m glad he challenged Kanye in that moment, he’s absolutely right. Some of these celebrities sometimes feel they can say or doing anything because of their talent people just going to go along with it. Well not this brother

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +9

      Did you watch the whole interview??? 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Kanye also sad you should be able to say what you feel rather it’s viewed as positive or negative… but to think free feel free and be free!!! We still in slavery!!!

    • @CarlosHernandez-rl2wg
      @CarlosHernandez-rl2wg Před 2 lety +14

      Kanye is a fool that thrives in these weirdo times. He needs to be checked.

    • @CryptoDun
      @CryptoDun Před 2 lety +15

      @@mosthighlawson3872 what slave has a thousand dollar phone and can watch & comment on these videos without getting whipped or hanged. So your no slave, and I damn sure ain’t. So cut it out. Comparing yourself or as you said all of us as slaves is completely disrespectful to real slaves

    • @CryptoDun
      @CryptoDun Před 2 lety +10

      Kanye want to talk about “slavery was a choice” well those Asians who makes his Yeezy sneakers don’t have much of a choice at higher wages now do they. Why don’t he demand Adidas Gap and all the other fashion brands he works with or wear to pay those factory workers more so they don’t have to live like slaves. But that would affect profit margins and he probably would have never made it to Billionaire status 🤔think about it

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +4

      @@CryptoDun he said media controls people and is a big problem… young dolph has an album called RICH SLAVE!!! It’s a mindset…

  • @fudgematthew33
    @fudgematthew33 Před rokem +4

    Kanye's a dangerous dude because of the influence his words and actions have. Respect to Van for checking him on the spot.

  • @kevin084life
    @kevin084life Před 2 lety +30

    The part we’ve all been waiting for 🍿

  • @TheBbod156
    @TheBbod156 Před 2 lety +5

    The way he chose his words to respond to Kanye were PERFECT!!

  • @Supahmusic_
    @Supahmusic_ Před 2 lety +80

    The black man fought back, by literally getting hung. And killed for their family. I’m sure many men died so their family could be left alone. Those incredible, unbelievable, photos of white men of all ages in one photo while one black man is hung from a tree where his feet could nearly touch the ground. have you seen it? this was a great convo. Feel bad as a non black man for Kanye, but idk, it was a statement that was so dry and unexplained, and improperly explained by all the confusion it left people. But ya man. “The mental slavery. Is harder to escape than the physical slavery” that was 💯

    • @nlee4566
      @nlee4566 Před 2 lety

      Preach!!!

    • @ChristopherX30
      @ChristopherX30 Před 2 lety +3

      If you ever run into Kanye, please explain this to him.

    • @Qleverett
      @Qleverett Před 2 lety +1

      That’s not what he said

    • @mosthighlawson3872
      @mosthighlawson3872 Před 2 lety +1

      He actually explained himself… even apologized to Van and blacks who feeling he hurt… but he stood at n his believes…

    • @cherylcollette6736
      @cherylcollette6736 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mosthighlawson3872 blacks...... haven't heard blacks refer to themselves as that....ha!

  • @jasonmitchell8883
    @jasonmitchell8883 Před rokem +2

    I can appreciate how well spoken as well as articulate Van is, by far 1 of the best things TMZ lost letting him go or him going to leave anyway, or whatever the case is.

  • @LaCokaNostra81
    @LaCokaNostra81 Před 2 lety +107

    I'm willing to bet the same people who hated what Kanye said cheered when Killmonger said, "Just bury me in the ocean with my ancestors that jumped from the ships because they knew death was better than bondage."

    • @smileykid18
      @smileykid18 Před 2 lety +11

      Huh

    • @mitersangeeta2576
      @mitersangeeta2576 Před 2 lety +9

      Yawn 🥱

    • @breeze5763
      @breeze5763 Před 2 lety +47

      U just said something but they not gone pay attention cause they hate it 🥴💯

    • @Thizlamic
      @Thizlamic Před 2 lety +38

      Niggas need to stop hanging on Kanye every word. AND STOP QUOTING THEM GODDAMN MARVEL MOVIES LIKE THEY GOSPEL. Corny AF

    • @smileykid18
      @smileykid18 Před 2 lety +2

      @Khalim Hannah please elaborate

  • @tayeeddings7501
    @tayeeddings7501 Před 2 lety +13

    I was happy and proud u said what u said to him big salute brotha

  • @YngfamK9
    @YngfamK9 Před 2 lety +13

    Van said it perfectly

  • @latricetaylor7928
    @latricetaylor7928 Před 2 lety

    I’ve been waiting for this part!

  • @heididobson5582
    @heididobson5582 Před 2 lety +13

    I watched that whole situation on TMZ and that was one off the most powerful moment I’ve ever seen on T.V. He’s brilliant with his words, thank you Van.❤️

  • @SAMZIRRA
    @SAMZIRRA Před 2 lety +24

    This man is brilliant. I love listening to him talk.

  • @hcopop
    @hcopop Před 2 lety +2

    "You can't have them be your example of weakness bc their my example of strength..." 🙌🏾

  • @koffiged
    @koffiged Před 2 lety +15

    That Van moment was so brilliant he sounded like he was practicing that speech for about a week.

    • @kaws3076
      @kaws3076 Před 2 lety

      Kanye was speaking about mental slavery. Which van is a liberal who clearly is still mentally enslaved. Always crying about something

    • @koffiged
      @koffiged Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, i know. That was a poor choice of words. But Van's rebuttal was iconic

  • @Lola-di8fq
    @Lola-di8fq Před 2 lety +14

    Van is the truth.....much love ❤

  • @dreglover9385
    @dreglover9385 Před 2 lety +4

    Van is so well spoken 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @beatsbydizzy8932
    @beatsbydizzy8932 Před 2 lety +8

    LOVE VAN, THAT WAS A GREAT INTERVIEW.

  • @CliffBoothMarley
    @CliffBoothMarley Před 2 lety +30

    When he said that to Kanye I applauded this man

  • @benjaminharris80
    @benjaminharris80 Před 2 lety +26

    Respect to Van for calling out Kanye on the b.s he says

  • @rationalsportsfanatic7416
    @rationalsportsfanatic7416 Před 2 lety +39

    Kanye wasn't challenging or criticizing our ancestors, by saying, "that sounds like a choice." He was challenging you and I to break free from the mental slavery that we are currently under.

    • @Lex-hm9xg
      @Lex-hm9xg Před 2 lety +1

      Did you listen to the interview?

    • @rationalsportsfanatic7416
      @rationalsportsfanatic7416 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Lex-hm9xg Yes, I did. Why do you ask?

    • @Lex-hm9xg
      @Lex-hm9xg Před 2 lety +1

      @@rationalsportsfanatic7416 because he acknowledged your comment in it; and explained his stance

    • @rationalsportsfanatic7416
      @rationalsportsfanatic7416 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Lex-hm9xg No he didn’t. He acknowledged that Kanye was referencing mental slavery as well as the physical aspect of it, but he still said that Kanye was attacking/challenging our ancestors with his comments, and that’s just not the case. He claims to be upset bc Kanye disrespected our ancestors, well if it’s revealed that Kanye wasn’t addressing our ancestors, but rather he was talking to us (telling us to break free from mental slavery) then there’s no reason for Van to be upset with him then, right?

    • @rationalsportsfanatic7416
      @rationalsportsfanatic7416 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Lex-hm9xg and just bc a person is talking about something, doesn’t mean they’re addressing it. They could be talking around it. They could be lying about it. They could be talking on it from an ignorant perspective. Or they could just be saying a bunch of nothing that just sounds good/smart/articulate.

  • @c.nadams6899
    @c.nadams6899 Před 2 lety +21

    Facts Van!!! Learn your history our people come from a brilliant, strong tribe and we should always be proud of them and honor them always🙏🏽

  • @veronicamcdaniels9968

    Well said!!!

  • @lenevee4925
    @lenevee4925 Před 2 lety +7

    Van was larger than TMZ and they knew it. His on the spot response to Kayne was well said.

  • @richardwilliams5842
    @richardwilliams5842 Před 2 lety +6

    If more people would put Ye in his place he wouldn't be the maniac he is today SMH

  • @MrPOPICHILO
    @MrPOPICHILO Před 2 lety

    Appreciate this interview and that moment. I was even enlightened on a few things.....1~Luv

  • @cpcbanks
    @cpcbanks Před rokem +1

    Thank you Van

  • @connieanderson591
    @connieanderson591 Před 2 lety +3

    I love you Van. I haven't watched TMz since you left.

  • @TheCde59
    @TheCde59 Před 2 lety +5

    That boy preaching 🙏🏾

  • @Hakeem597
    @Hakeem597 Před rokem +1

    This right here is GOLD!!!

  • @albertenema7937
    @albertenema7937 Před rokem

    Hey it's Van!! Im a huge fan of the midnight boys podcast. Big ups man

  • @deathdefying111
    @deathdefying111 Před 2 lety +16

    “If you don’t remember what you said ima just read what you said ” this dude vlad man😂😂

  • @johndavid5883
    @johndavid5883 Před 2 lety +10

    Even though I always and will despise TMZ, this man is a solide dude, respect.

  • @eye4talentnyc
    @eye4talentnyc Před rokem

    Thank you Van.

  • @therealsockesh1872
    @therealsockesh1872 Před 2 lety

    It’s time to have that meet-up Van!!! Now more than ever!!

  • @Tomorrison28
    @Tomorrison28 Před 2 lety +17

    "I freed hundreds I could have freed thousands, if only they knew they were slaves" - Harriet Tubman. Basically the same thing Kanye said. He was correct. The Haitians made a choice to NOT be slaves at all cost.

    • @ibervillezee9142
      @ibervillezee9142 Před 2 lety +1

      And look at them now.

    • @drasticneshon1418
      @drasticneshon1418 Před 2 lety

      Free will God gave it to us , not man

    • @Tomorrison28
      @Tomorrison28 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ibervillezee9142 Haiti is in a bad place but it's not because they freed themselves from slavery

    • @steffon563
      @steffon563 Před 2 lety

      @@ibervillezee9142 that's not the point. They couldn't predict what the future would hold. France made Haiti suffer for their choice and the world watched. There is so much evil being allowed to happen in this world.

    • @ariefraiser140
      @ariefraiser140 Před 2 lety +2

      You also forgot to mention that Haitian slaves vastly outnumbered their slave owners on a small colonial Island. While the slaves in the US were out numbered in a country vastly bigger than Haiti.
      You seem to be doing the same thing Kanye did. Speaking on history without, purposefully or not, putting the historical situations you refer to in proper context.

  • @laurastrait7439
    @laurastrait7439 Před 2 lety +37

    VAN,,,, WE LOVE YOU ,,, AND WE ARE HERE FOR YOU 💯💯💯 ,,,,LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT AND WE SALUTE TO YOU SIR ,,,FOR STANDING UP FOR US PERIOD SO KEEP ON PREACHING GENERAL THE REAL........ FROM DETROIT SIR VAN WE SALUTE TO YOU.....❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤

  • @HuemorDGAP
    @HuemorDGAP Před 2 lety

    Beautifully said, Van!!!

  • @siranaba4273
    @siranaba4273 Před 2 lety +18

    Van gives in depth responses and reads history but folks who thought Kanye really said something only like sound bites and tweets and don’t like to read books

  • @dididiallo7778
    @dididiallo7778 Před 2 lety +7

    Big up Van for this empowered words about our ancestors.🙌🏿 Love and light ✨

  • @jonathanbonds3906
    @jonathanbonds3906 Před 2 lety +2

    Seeing two strong strong minded black men expresses how they feel to each other without it being super intense or any violent acts happening is amazing to see.

  • @brandyvaughn1
    @brandyvaughn1 Před rokem

    Amen finally a real article smart brother

  • @cvmxo
    @cvmxo Před 2 lety +55

    At the time I tried to follow Kanyes train of thought but soon I had doubts as well and i remember when he asked the room their opinion, I was thinking, "if no one says anything then I'm going to be worried." It's hard to say so easily that slavery was a choice because instinctively we are hard wired to survive and will navigate our environment to do that. Except for those enslaved, those environments were extremely limited. Our capacity to think was limited and most of our knowledge came from the experiences of those that came before you.

    • @DaddyLogic
      @DaddyLogic Před 2 lety +2

      That's the problem. You left one slave master just to be programmed by another (Kanye Train) you must be a weak person to "Follow a train". Do you like trains? It sounds like you like trains. Bend over train boi 😂😂😂😂

    • @RobinXlone
      @RobinXlone Před 2 lety +2

      nah theres nations that fought out of worse slavery. usa slavery was for the most part cool

    • @HitmanAvery
      @HitmanAvery Před 2 lety +7

      Slavery was definitely a choice if you think Ye was crazy, it’s shows how “Misinformed” we as African Americans are with our history. To honestly say with all your feelings and emotions behind saying “slavery wasn’t a choice is just as crazy as calling Kanye crazy.” Our African ancestors that came off the boat FOUGHT their way out of slavery for US TO BE HERE. Honestly Ye needs an apologies from all the miseducated African Americans but they obviously never paid attention to
      -3 Fingered Jack - Leader of Jamaican Maroons of the freed Blackmen of 18th century
      -Nat Turner - if you seen birth of a nation i shouldn’t have to say anything about Nat Turner
      -Boukman - educated the slaves on the plantation while leading the Haitian Revolution
      There’s plenty of more but the point is that OUR AFRICAN ANCESTORS FOUGHT our way out. The colonizer didn’t just wake up one day and had a change of heart. Africans would die at the stake if they didn’t comply which feared the majority to be decile during the slave trade, they knew the consequences of their actions, which was death so “THEY CHOSE” to be in captivity for survival. Most of us African Americans were MISEDUCATED on that because it always looked like we had no willpower since our history books starts the African at slavery. These slave rebellions were Africans PILLAGING white folks for our freedom, WE CHOSE FREEDOM.

    • @DaddyLogic
      @DaddyLogic Před 2 lety +1

      @@HitmanAvery Goat Post

    • @cvmxo
      @cvmxo Před 2 lety +5

      @@HitmanAvery I get what you mean. But when someone says that slavery was a choice, it feels as though they are saying that we just all decided to get on the boat willingly, without putting up any opposition, and allowed for slavery to exist; When in reality, the bodies of slaves were under complete physical, mental, and psychological control. There are doctrines that you can actually view online that explains the process of brainwashing slaves to keep control which when you read it, sounds similar to instructions on how to control large herds of cattle. The only difference is that psychological control was the main mechanism that was used to limit our ability to see outside the lines of slavery. Of course there were revolts and this was a choice; but being taken from your family and forced into work with no pay or guarantee of a solidified future was not a choice. It was necessary for survival. For 400 years we were culturally destroyed and the lingering damage of that cultural destruction still exists today. They even went as far as to put other blacks in specific rankings where the high ranking blacks would then control other blacks which caused division and hatred towards one another. For 400 years, the psychological, physical, and mental control was fine tuned similar to how a programmer fine tunes a software program. To say this was a choice, for me at least, quickly bypasses the cruel reality which these slaves endured and perpetuates the idea that these psychological limitations did not exist which is not true. I'd ask you to read about a man named William lynch, a man who mastered the ability to control the perception and attitudes of his slaves by creating division and hatred towards
      owns self and others. A lot of Williams philosophies are still used today in corporate America to keep their employees happy while at the same time maximizing productivity.

  • @RonnieRapGame
    @RonnieRapGame Před 2 lety +16

    Much love from Baton Rouge . I fuck with Van, dude always speaking facts in the most articulate way possible. You can tell he really put thought into all his plays. 💯

  • @DRACOFURY
    @DRACOFURY Před 2 lety

    *We Love You For That*
    ✊🏿

  • @jaye5926
    @jaye5926 Před 2 lety

    good conversation...

  • @machomusprime50
    @machomusprime50 Před 2 lety +18

    It was awesome when he checked Kanye on that. Most folks would bow down to a celebrity the status of Kanye.

  • @kiwij7705
    @kiwij7705 Před 2 lety +4

    Saying slavery was a choice is like saying any other genocide in history was a choice. He was so disrespectful for that no matter how he meant it. Like van said don’t try to make them an example of mental weakness. Kanye be having breakdowns over bandaid colors

    • @donaldjones318
      @donaldjones318 Před rokem

      It was a choice hence some slave masters weren’t successful at bringing would be slaves to America

  • @g.m.prince7052
    @g.m.prince7052 Před 2 lety

    Excellent interview. Van makes perfect sense.

  • @jeffreybordeaux6055
    @jeffreybordeaux6055 Před 2 lety

    Spot on

  • @ttbaby1342
    @ttbaby1342 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm so proud of VAN he explain Da whole situation!! About slavery!!🎯🎯♥️. I love me some Van!! Watch him everyday on TMZ!!♥️🎯

  • @andresc1143
    @andresc1143 Před 2 lety +66

    The fact y’all still riding with Kanye after he said what he said proves how slavery was in place for so long. A real life Stephen.

    • @joeblack2809
      @joeblack2809 Před 2 lety +24

      The fact you’re still living in America after all that’s been proves how much of a slave you are in today’s day and time

    • @andresc1143
      @andresc1143 Před 2 lety +6

      @@joeblack2809 bruh wtf are you talking about now🥴 lol

    • @JokermanUno
      @JokermanUno Před 2 lety +16

      @@andresc1143 if this OP is shaming folks for “still rocking with Kanye” after he said intangible things that ultimately effects no one’s lives, then what is your excuse for still “rocking with America” which tangibly effects the community every day with its laws, corrupt politics, police, etc.

    • @joeblack2809
      @joeblack2809 Před 2 lety +16

      @@andresc1143 👆🏾 👆🏾 👆🏾
      My comment must’ve clearly flown straight over your head cuz this man explained what I said fucking flawlessly.

    • @joeblack2809
      @joeblack2809 Před 2 lety +5

      @OrbitingDoom I’m not acting bad I’m just proving a point thanks for showing that you missed the point too.

  • @ranman7176
    @ranman7176 Před 2 lety

    Right on Brother 👍🏾

  • @henryhernan9574
    @henryhernan9574 Před 2 lety

    Dam Van we need a real one like you running shit. I hope you have a inspiration for politics.

  • @Andrew-nb9ng
    @Andrew-nb9ng Před 2 lety +10

    Very great response both in the moment and after the fact via the interview. Kanye was wildin and its obvious that no one has ever really checked him in such a manner before. I'm glad that Lathan never validated Kanye and his opinions by going to his house to converse with him on the subject

  • @ashenone3427
    @ashenone3427 Před 2 lety +20

    People still choose to ignore what Kanye said even after Vlad was reading his exact words. Ye said "That sounds like a choice." What he said was how come we didn't fight then for our freedom if it was more of us vs one slave owner. Ye stands on the freedom of our people. Please wake up and see the deep meaning of what he was trying to say. The intentions means more than the wording. He's passionate about our people and freedom for all races as well. But, it's 2021 now and he's growing as a person. Love you all! Ye loves you as well. Peace and keep God with you 24/7!

    • @DRS506
      @DRS506 Před 2 lety +2

      I hear ya, but some stuff you should just leave alone honestly. That statement definitely could have been omitted. If you want to talk about modern times, cool, but we can’t be diggin up shit like slavery and assume shit when none of us who inhabit this technological world we live in now we’re never there. Tf

    • @ashenone3427
      @ashenone3427 Před 2 lety +3

      @@DRS506 i feel u and ur right. we have evolved. thats like us criticizing cave men for staying cold when they got fire wood. i just wish people would see a person's true intentions.

    • @nastystew6942
      @nastystew6942 Před 2 lety

      Only 10 percent of whites owned slaves

    • @DRS506
      @DRS506 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ashenone3427 some intentions just cause for universal understanding and being clear and concise. If it’s hard to understand or correlate, the message will never be heard. Ye just has/had to understand that

    • @DRS506
      @DRS506 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nastystew6942 *in my Big Worm voice “what the “fonk” that got to do with anything

  • @Vic-cj1gs
    @Vic-cj1gs Před 2 lety +1

    Wow this man speaks powerful 💯💚💯💚

  • @soysauce6550
    @soysauce6550 Před 2 lety +1

    Yo, I miss Van on TMZ. Happy Holidays 🎇

  • @JokermanUno
    @JokermanUno Před 2 lety +15

    I swear y’all still acting like he wasn’t talking about mental shackles of today…prolly cause y’all living it.

    • @johnyboss3266
      @johnyboss3266 Před 2 lety +7

      They love the narrative and the struggle

    • @Butterfly22593
      @Butterfly22593 Před 2 lety

      Of course people are living in it. The point is it's not a choice and what you said is stupid

  • @LIBryda
    @LIBryda Před 2 lety +21

    Ye said "400 years of slavery SOUNDS like a choice." When certain black ppl hear the word slavery everything else goes out the window. Van even just acknowledged he understood what Kanye was tryna say, but he acted like he didn't at TMZ in front of the white man and the camera.

    • @AccentBwoy
      @AccentBwoy Před 2 lety

      So they mis judge kanye comment ?

    • @shakespeare1280
      @shakespeare1280 Před 2 lety +2

      VAN been sold out and got his card revoked

    • @bradlee5874
      @bradlee5874 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah even I understood what Kanye meant, but on a national platform such as TMZ, that would have caused even more hellfire if Kanye wasn't checked for that. Of course, they get Van to do it because other races of people in that room may not go against that statement. I'm sure there were many, many slaves that chose to be on the plantation than to rather run away back then; but 400 years though? Bruh.

    • @yvy6269
      @yvy6269 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bradlee5874 many didn't even leave after they were freed. They had to be paid and they couldn't be held against their will, but they stayed working for the same masters.

  • @landojr2235
    @landojr2235 Před 2 lety +1

    You Did Right Brother 📿💯

  • @yallisitme7292
    @yallisitme7292 Před 2 lety +1

    Powerful

  • @masonldn8647
    @masonldn8647 Před 2 lety +12

    How Ye still gets a pass from black people is beyond me . If a Jewish guy was to say Holocaust was a choice, his own community will cancel him

    • @GraveDiggerPop718
      @GraveDiggerPop718 Před 2 lety +3

      Cause of the music and shoes sad to say

    • @misschoklate2012
      @misschoklate2012 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly . I’m not a fan of him at all because he says crazy things and really believed it . To me the media beefs him up and to me he is not anymore intelligent than us but a brilliant business man . That’s the facts . Van told the truth .

    • @bushwxcker540
      @bushwxcker540 Před 2 lety

      The Holocaust only lasted like 7 years and it was also the entire German military with a shit ton of machine guns vs a minority population that were taken from their homes with nothing lmao. Kanye makes a good point but no one has an open enough mind to just think about it and not get angry

    • @shantoniosavage4052
      @shantoniosavage4052 Před 2 lety

      Rember the original jews were black not white

    • @masonldn8647
      @masonldn8647 Před 2 lety

      @@bushwxcker540 Kanye is generally a shit person ... Example : Slavery was a choice ,. I don't care how many big words or turns and turns you can have to clarify this one ,it was purely idiotic

  • @aleiterful
    @aleiterful Před 2 lety +5

    “Most known for his argument with Kanye” lol that’s disrespectful to his career

  • @kingdoutrive776
    @kingdoutrive776 Před 2 lety

    THANK YOU VAN

  • @Iselassiei782
    @Iselassiei782 Před 2 lety

    Mad love and Respect to you Brother Van!!! ✊🏿

  • @logicalblackman8228
    @logicalblackman8228 Před 2 lety +3

    This man needs to have his own podcast, if he doesn’t have one already.

  • @Beckonor
    @Beckonor Před 2 lety +3

    Slavery was a choice. There were a few hundreds of whites that got off that ship when it docked in Africa, confronting a few thousand sub-Saharan Africans. We as blacks had every opportunity bumrush the slave handlers for 400 hundred years, a few times we did start an uprising and failed but at least we tried.

    • @blacgod4550
      @blacgod4550 Před 2 lety

      Bumrush the slave handlers with guns?you see yo Top warrior get smoke in front you thats gon slow you down make u 💡Special when u have no guns to fight with

    • @Beckonor
      @Beckonor Před 2 lety +1

      @@blacgod4550 They had muskets that take 60 minutes to reload gun powder after every shot. Blacks had the chance to either bumrush them or chuck spears at them. Shaka Zulu would die trying.

    • @blacgod4550
      @blacgod4550 Před 2 lety

      @@Beckonor you just missed the point

  • @Gio-yo8nt
    @Gio-yo8nt Před 2 lety +1

    I never knew that much about Van but after this interview I got the up most respect for this guy

  • @chaostheory2219
    @chaostheory2219 Před 2 lety

    Grateful that Van stood up and wasn't afraid to stand up.

  • @montanadash20
    @montanadash20 Před 2 lety +3

    Damn his explanation was almost as dope as the statement itself lol 🔥