Ranks of the New California Republic Army
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this video, I cover the current lore regarding the ranks of the New California Republic Army and their command structure.
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Crazy to think the Legion spy Curtis raised to a grade just below a major
Isn’t it? Should his plan to frame Davey Crenshaw succeed, he might even be promoted to Major for successfully “finding the leak” lol
The NCR wont go quietly, the Leigon can guarantee that
This just makes the legion look more terrifying
Absolutely. People tend not to realize just how terrifying the Legion truly is until they go down the lore rabbit hole.
@@theneocypher maybe it's the skirts
Probably the skirts lol
@@theneocypher I sorta think the opposite, the only reason the Legion are so threatening to the NCR is because the NCR are actually kinda weak. Like the Legion are no slouches, there's no doubt about that, but against a proper force in a pitched battle, they fall behind. Which is probably why the Frumentarii are so good at their jobs.
Ok but my main point is, the NCR man to man is less capable than a WW1 army. Its not even a numbers thing, the NCR has very few armored units (I guess I could lump power armor with tanks here), they have almost no artillery assets, and almost no air assets. If the NCR had just one those 3 in somewhat available fashion, then I believe they could stomp the legion. The only thing really giving them a leg up is their night vision equipment.
I suppose relatively speaking the Legion are terrifying and that's kinda the point.
@LordHokage26 I think its the football pad body armor
And they still wea.... NOW WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!!
Yes! 😂😂😂 this is the payoff I’ve been waiting for!
@@theneocypher
😂 I legit saw a post from you, clicked on it, and started typing it out before I heard you talking about NCR.
We have an inside joke now 😂
@@theneocypher
Lol, that we do 😂
I was doing an NCR mod Called Bearfire which it extends the NCR Questline massively, one Reoccuring Character is Maser Sergeant Candy, despite her rank this video shows she's acting way more like a Captain then a Sergeant which makes sense. As she leads a Qausi Rogue but loyal Unit from Searchlight. Greenlighting Daring Missions and with help fro the Courier scoring Phat Ws for the NCR.
In general, I find that the NCR did too much copy and paste. The US Army has that many ranks because they were a vast and Bloated organisation that operated across the world. The NCR duplicated this system and suffer the problems the US Did in different countries within the confines of the region next to them. The troopers possess near to no agency of their own, constantly complaining about problems they actually should have clearance to at least address. There seems to be so much red tape, I swear a Fiend could spray paint the McCarren gates and somehow the Troopers would be disabled from doing anything about it.
As an NCR fan, it's one of the most comical consistent things in my play through of me running myself stupid to keep the barely functional military going lol
Is this bearfire mod on nexus mods or some other place as im unable to find it
@@kierankerr5386 Well it's probably gonna remain private use, In order to make it I had to mount a couple of mod resources together and there is very little chance I could get the permission of some of the authors
@@reaverfang377 I'd love it if you could share it privately, maybe uploading it to a Google Drive account or to Mega, as we are allowed to so.
It sounds too interesting to never see the light of day, but of course I respect your decision if you do decide to never publish it.
@@WolfLykaios well I recently completed a milestone quest for it so that may indeed be a possibility one day
i mean the number of ranks doesn't really change that much between armies, most militaries have a similar number of ranks, even the tiny ones like the Latvian or Belgian army or something. Most have maybe 4-5 less ranks enlisted & NCO ranks than the US army but it doesn't change much.
Everyone starts at the very bottom of the hierarchy, no bullshit regarding advance education or special merit. Every trooper started as a recruit and every trooper can become an officer.
Oliver
Fun fact the basic NCR trooper helmet is not made out of Steel butt a mixture of plastic and cork. This is because it is not an actual combat helmet it is a pressed fiber helmet. These were used by the US Military for a long time in Marines still use them
Profligates!
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that.
Handle your skirts and pray to your daddy, very soon you won't be able to.
Ave’ true to Caesar
Ave, true to Caesar!
Thanks, I love these videos. I enjoy the breakdowns on each faction’s heiarchy and what each rank does, adds to immersion.
Keep up the good work my man
Thanks! I’m glad I can make these videos for you!
Finally! I Loved the Legion Ranks explained, and i'm sure i'll love this too! Keep the amazing content up!
The biggest problem for the NCR Military is logistics.
We can tell the logistics are very dire by the limited amount of ammunition, food and lack of pretty much anything.
Patrols and traveling NCR do not have any support or even basic packs. The guys would still need tourniquets and gas masks even with the drugs and stimpacks they have in circulation. Which they do not have. They also lack any basic military structure for the type of military they have. They never have enough guards or duty's. If they did they would never sleep or be able to function if you look at the bases they have. Sure the Brotherhood has the same issue but they have robots that do not need to sleep and choke points at every base so they can deal with the main issue the Brotherhood would have being limited response to an immediate attack. Meanwhile the NCR is getting attacked and slapped around before they can even properly deploy a response if they even know where the threat is. Sorry guys I guess someone just blew up the south wing of the base again and we still only have a handful of bullets and dirt sandwiches to eat Oopsie.
Yea the NCR has put together a decent emulation of a pre-war military, but it's clear they're struggling on the supply front, at least in Mojave. But we also see signs of them addressing it, there's a railroad under construction in part of the map and if they can run it with any degree of efficiency, that alone could address a lot of their problems out there.
Now see, you could see these videos as NCR Slander...but they're also painfully accurate, if just a little mean XD
The NCR, before The Courier shows up, is getting SLAGUHTERED by The Legion and it's own incompetence, has become a faded shadow of the ideals it once stood for and just about scrapes past being the "Lesser Evil."
not sure they were getting "SLAUGHTERED", slowly bled out perhaps but from what i got it was a bloody stalemate
@@Ibrahana. The no mans' land between Nelson and Camp Forlorn Hope only exists because dead sea is ordered not to advance from his position.
We dont talk about Nipton
We dont talk about Searchlight
We dont talk about camp guardian.
If everyone in the NCR was like Colonel Hsu then it would be the best faction without question
@@user-ox3mj2sr8nNah. The House always Wins.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n That’s why House makes sure to stay on the NCR’S good side.
@@user-ox3mj2sr8n Yeah but my point is because of the fact that they have corrupt government which doesn't care about ending other communities and letting their troops die in the cause of that which makes them week when they expand too much, it is hard to decide. And that's why Colonel Hsu is a gigachad because he cares about lives and tries to be deplomatic.
A Corporal is also an NCO.
Jr nco
@@veandreyahuda5333an NCO nonetheless.
I corporal is also usually not a squad leader (unless he goes down in combat)
he the team leader but a sergeant might be that too
We won't go quietly, Bethesda's TV show can count on that.
Recommendations:
1. Create rank of "specialist" comparable to srgnt with no command duties but recognized as equal to in rank to a srg, command chain seems recruit heavy.
2. Remove bg gnr and mj gnral and retain general and lt general, signify higher with 2 large stars. Proposterous for a country of 1 million to say they field a full 4 star general.
3. Work on wood combustion cars and start converting excess dead wood to horsepower.
Is there any lore that explains when and how they reformed the army? And who was responsible for the training? Upgrading a rag tag militia into a functioning modern military is not an easy task afterall. And it seems as though they managed to do it rather quickly. Not as fast as Imperial Japan did in the 19th century but still pretty quick.
ive just recently got into modding NV what mods are you using if you dont mind me asking? it looks very true to the original but with slight tweaks.
Oh man a ton. The big ones are Poco Bueno for textures, fallout character overhaul, Ncr Overhaul, and we are Legion. These are what create 80% of the look
Seems to be a somewhat mix between USMC and US Army ranks. In the marines you go to boot and start as a recruit. pv1 private is E-1 in marines i believe. You mentioned Pv2 i think as pfc. Thats E-2 i think "dont quote me" in the marines. Then theres lance corpral which is E-3 i believe but it seems like they skipped Lance corpral. So they went straight to corpral which is an E-4 in USMC. Note corpral in US Army is interchangeable with with another rank called specialist i think again dont quote me. The E-5 ranks seem like USMC as you mentioned in the video. Sergeant E-5 than Staff Sergeant which I believe is E-6. Than there is Gunny and master sergeants which I dont know which comes first etc. I dont really know much more than that. Correct me if im completely wrong. And of course good video 😊.
You left out a bunch of stuff. The rangers seem to have a loose rank structure, with chief Hanlon as a Chief Warrant Officer of some grade, and different armor grades seeming to denote different levels of authority, with comm officers likely a W1 Warrant Officer.
Think the specialist rank is missing too
And a corporal wouldnt lead a squad in the real world
Also with the technical sergeant in the fallout timeline, I find the differences between the NCR Army and the present US Army very interesting.
Imagine NCR Marines exist.
everyone starts a trooper
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I wouldn't go as far to claim the NCR has "ballistic vests" or an "air force".
We don't know what their vests are made out of, but it appears to either be leather or leather covered metal. Neither would really offer ballistic protection. In addition the Rangers don't have ballistic protection either, but riot armor, meant for bricks and glass, rather than bullets.
We also only see one vertibird, and no one mentions an air force.
Unfortunately, most of the information we can gather in this game is largely speculative.
We do know that the NCR has a few vertibirds at the Long-15, which acts primarily as a military base before it’s obliterated. Furthermore, a single line of dialogue with Daisy Whitman, in context, implies the existence of an NCRA Air Unit of some kind. Other than that, we really have no other evidence to support the Air Force idea and I wouldn’t consider Bear Force One to be sufficient evidence of an Air Force either.
As for the armor, it is by definition a ballistic vest, or “bulletproof” vest. These vests can be made out of anything from hardened cloth (like linothorax), to leather, to metal, to kevlar, etc. In the case of the NCR, I think it’s safe to assume they use metal plates for basic ballistic protection since their armor counts as medium armor, however it also could be leather, or some type of ballistic weave.
Sadly, since neither points are confirmed nor denied in the game itself, this is the best we can infer given the information provided. That is, until a game developer weighs in!
That brings the question, what's Riot armor doing in the Divide, a heavily militerized small town litterally built on Nuclear missiles? And also why does the Riot armor have US Army insignia? And why'd Hopeville need LAPD Riot armor in Nevada?
@@RabdoInternetGuy Well, there were multiple US military bases and nuclear silos in the area. It wasn't just a city with guns. The high grade equipment probably came from the military bases
I would probably say NCR Troopers got Basic Protection up to 9mm and it probably gets shaky by 5.56 and that depends on how well made that trooper's equipment actually is. The NCR in NV likes to cut corners in nearly everything.
Given the state of technology(most weapons and ammo being centuries old), I don't think it's unrealistic to think that armor's relative effectiveness is greater than in real life just because most ammunition will not be as effective. They certain function, but a .22 can kill but also be stopped by pretty minimal armor. NCR has a functioning, to some extent, industrial base, but against tribals and poorly equipped local forces? They may be using ammunition half or less as effective as it's modern equivalents.
So no Commander in Chief rank for the President?
Almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
Me: (Prepares Nuke Launcher with furious intention)
5:22 What about Sergeant first class Astor at Camp Searchlight?
Sergeant Astor is a First Sergeant
@@theneocypher oh, oops sorry about that, poor memory
No worries! 😁
*adjusts mic, fixes stack of paper* "fuck the ncr" thank you
Another great video thank you
Thank you Elder!
I wonder if the NCR had lance criminals
I noticed you never refer to blue tune, only squads I like to to hear a reason why also, I know brigadier in general are both used. Could you provide a source for the rest of the generals rank? Also, you do not mention any of the Ranger ranks.
Technically major and lieutenant generals are never mentioned in game. So, like lieutenant colonel, they may not be used. Brigadier General is mentioned as Cassandra Moore is promoted to this rank in the NCR victory ending and then of course a general is seen in game being General Lee Oliver.
I don’t know that there are any Ranger ranks per se. There are the different uniforms, civilian, patrol and veteran but i don’t think the differences are ever explained anywhere. The only distinct rank is Chief Ranger, held by Hanlon and is just the head of the Ranger Corps.
@@rustyrifleman9042 at the battle of the hoover dam isn't there a ranger commander? also, I just assume it's harder to figure out because they probably have more pride in being a ranger than the minor distinction between rangers because as seen when entering nelson, it appears all rangers are above common troopers which to me means they are all some form of NCO
@@josepigroyper370 The commander of the rangers at the first battle was Chief Hanlon. I would assume the same for the second, assuming he's still alive after Return to Sender. My thought has always been that it's more of a respect thing than actual command over them. Sort of how special forces are viewed in our world.
@@rustyrifleman9042 Hanlon is the chief but at however dam I remember a veteran ranger name Ranger Commander so their is a chain of command and its obvious by the fact that there are specific rangers in charge of stations or the Mohave outpost but new Vegas isn't great with ranks like I know all troopers are privities but they are all labeled trooper so idk whose what in the game
@@josepigroyper370 I would have to look into it some more. I love this niche kind of lore so I will definitely do some digging.
Hold your tongue wastrel
say whats that armor mod for the NCR troops being used? seen it a bit and looks real nice
NCR trooper overhaul. You can find it on Nexus :)
the ncr is kinda cool but i cant stomach them for a whole playthrough
Great channel
Thanks 🙏
I feel bad for the ncr theyre getting the treatment preston gets getting bullyed
Anyone else see the NCR rangers kinda like the USMC
I found one thing odd about the helmets they wear instead of an M1 helmet they wear the UK-made Brodie helmets I thought it would make more sense to wear the M1 or M2 helmets (since weapons like M3 and the M1 Garand rifle are canon) but that is my opinion
since their helmets aren’t steel I feel like it’s more for protection against the sun then protection against shrapnel or bullets
@@Fortmoment549 that makes sense but that is kind of dumb since they are dealing against the legion and the Khan and the kings
And the fiends
They are wearing something akin to the American fiber helmet, which has been in use since 1934. It's most iconic now a days for the USMC, but considering how many former air force bases the NCRA controls, it's not that surprising that it'd be the main "helmet" for desert and tropical warfare to keep the sun off the head. Assuming from Fallout 4 we see that the US Army's uniform fatigue uniform hadn't changed into the 2070s (as well as the US Coast Guard hats still being WW2 flat cap styles), the NCRA is using w/e is cheap and easy to mass produce for a conscript army, while the regulars or long standing guys might be wearing the combat helmets while chasing ghosts in the Baja.
@@danielpalama3700 ok I didn’t know that it just kind of odd to me but thanks for the history lesson I thought it was the Brodie helmet style since you know it is not the first time that other countries have used it like the R91
What overhaul mod is this?
timestamps, what are they?
🫡 Glory to the NCR!
(Ave true to Caesar)
Ave true to caesar
Caesar marks you for death
0:02 If you spam this enough times, you will hear something SUS.
No u won’t
What overhaul mod is this?