How to build a base for a shed without concrete - Easy to build gravel base for Suncast shed
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- This gravel shed base is easy and cheap to build without the need to pour concrete slab. It's great for a plastic resin shed like the Suncast shed or wood shed. This DIY shed platform will help protect your shed from rotting and give it a stable based that will not crack.
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Nice work. As a project construction manager for over 35 yrs, I would like to advise you to never cut in the position you were in while cutting the 4x4. A kick back by the circular saw and you will slice your leg open. I have seen it 7x in my line of work. Always leave a clearance for kick back. Good luck.
Thanks for looking out
Great advice. Should be pinned!
OMG!! 😁👍🏼
It happens lightning fast.
Same here . My friend got 35 stitches !
Just some quick info and tips. That's not really for a weed barrier, it's to prevent the stone from sinking into the dirt. Secondly, if you have a groundhog problem put down some chainlink fence or chicken wire over the fabric, if prevents them from burrowing. They love to dig under sheds. Also let your pressure treated lumber dry out a bit before you paint them. Otherwise a good build.
Great advice about the groundhog burrowing issue. Where I live in the Southwest, it is a mama squirrel issue and for the second year in a row, she has burrowed under the shed that was incorrectly installed over bare dirt by the previous homeowner, my uncle, who should have known better. I will now have to wait for mama's babies to leave the underground nest a couple of months from now and then figure out what I will do to try to solve the problem.
Was thinking the same thing but instead of on TOP of the weed barrier putting it down first. In my mind, putting the weed barrier down first means those critters will try to get under it and destroy the barrier in the first place? IDK much about this stuff, so I could be wrong.
why don't we use 2x2 concrete blocks ? It is 5bucks each and much cheaper and easier to setup underlayment for shed. We can recycle when it moved to another location with shed. Anyway I liked watching you working with your dad. Father is always supportive. nice work
Thank you, 4x4 lasts longer as I dont plan on moving it. Better base with 4x4.
Great idea for my green house. Good job you two. Angel from The Bay
Good job
I like the application of the rebar spikes.
I see you used a small hand tamper but I would recommend using a gas powered plate compactor with smaller material to get a solid cement like base. My local rental place only charged $63.00 per day.
Instead of painting the PT wood black, you can char the wood with a propane torch. Darkens the wood and charring protects the wood as well , up to 100 years.
That's correct and an alternative to what I did. Thanks for the great comment.
Nice job, sir! In case people think of avoiding the weedblock cuz a shed will be on top, I'll point out that landscape fabric - or poly sheeting with holes poked for drainage - is there to prevent your nice gravel from sinking into muddy dirt. Depends on the type of soil, amount of rain and freeze/thaw cycles in one's particular area, but it's much easier to lay a barrier in the beginning of your stone project instead of a couple years later. Ask me how I know, LOL! Also, field cuts of PT lumber -- especially ground contact ones -- should be coated with preservative that soaks into the wood, such as CopperCoat. In my area Ace sells it but the big box stores don't.
Thanks for this.
Thanks! I'm putting up a shed for my mom soon and this was a great help for a proper foundation for it.
Thanks for leaving the great comment. I hope your mom likes it.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!!
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I like it. I recently did a similar base. I used pressure treated 2x4s instead of 4x4s and I didn't put down a weed barrier (maybe I should have). I put down a 2+ inch layer of sand and compacted that and then used pea gravel to fill it to the top of the frame. I was told, by my favorite gawkers, that it was over kill but I like a level shed with working doors.
Working doors are important, what you can also do is set some pavers under the door so it's square. This is what I did. You can see the pavers near the door, looks good, it's better on the feet, wheel barrel and squares the door.
Very interesting. Glad you gave the old guy, who's about my age, the smaller wheelbarrow 🤓
;) indeed but hes still pretty strong for 73.
Thank you. Well thought out.
Thank you for the info. Very helpful
This is great! can probably use this for a greenhouse as well. Thank you!
absolutely
Beautiful job done there. Well done to you and, I think your Dad.
Correct, thank you.
Nice job. Thanks for the VIDEO.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Great job thank you. I would have benefitted from some instructions along the way cause I’m a total amateur. But I like silent movies. Hope to attempt this venture in summer.
It's so easy it doesn't require much instructions, feel free to ask question on the comment section. Good luck!
Rocking out to the Hey Bear, thanks for the video my guy
Great idea !
Good job. Did basically the same thing for a friend last summer. Hope your shed fairs better. She called this fall because the doors were warping. I would have gone with wood personally but bit my tongue. She had her mind made up.
So far its holding up great, we will see
Resin sheds are known for warped doors and walls along with UV rays making them look faded over time. Also, high winds can move them around if they are not anchored down.
Great job💯❤
Thank you for the video. I really didn't want to use concrete and have lots of gravel to repurpose!
it works great!
Thanks fellas, good job...
thanks for the comment!!
Nice idea!! I've been thinking about putting up a more stable shed then the one I have now but didn't want to pay for concrete as it's expensive as hell. Thank you thank you thank you for this idea and I'm gona try once it warms up here in NC. Have a great day! :)
good luck, thanks for the comment.
A concrete Base would be cheaper.
Great video thank you!
Thanks for taking the time to comment
Very nice job!!!!!
thanks!!
Nice build
Thank you
A beautiful and well made base. Saved it for future construction of my own. Thanks for making this video.
thank you!
Nice job, bro.
Thank you
Thanks!
nice job
thanks!
I put 5" cedar fence slats at the bottom covering the siding to help with water splash against the bottom. They're cheap and great against rhe elements. Then applied silicone at all the edges where the cedar meets the siding.
Im sure there are better more expensive solutions but for me it fit my budget.
as long as it works
Foi bastante trabalho mas esta muito bom ❤❤
Great job guys, now you can come over and do mine. Lol😅❤
;)
I'm building a concrete block foundation and footer with the same gravel floor you have in this video.
Yes the gravel is indeed used to build concrete foundations. They way I did it bypasses the extra step, although some applications require a concrete pad, a small shed is not one of them.
Cheers.
Nice work, probably too nice for a suncast shed
The shed has been great so far. Thanks for the comment
So you anchored the wood frame but not the shed? I thought you wanted to place the shed on top of the wood frame and that is why you were leveling it precisely. The 4/4 acts as your mini retaining wall.
Exactly what I'm looking for. Did you end up posting a video on how to anchor the shed to this? Assuming just rebar?
Not yet, soon I'll post it
Awsome 👍✌️🤞👌🇺🇸🤩
You should start editing your movies more plus the speed factor. It was like watching paint dry. Especially when there were no information given orally
The problem is, I need the tools to build the shed, but I need the shed to store the tools.
That's a dilemma.
Put them in the garage. If no garage the back patio. If no patio... the living room or your wife's office.
😂😂😂 3:00 happens to the best of us
That was so awesome!!
I love it so much
I bought a kit to install a shed in my back yard
But I wasn’t that happy at the very end
I thought the shed would’ve been sitting and bolted on the posts
beautiful teamwork. What did you use to put the lines in the concrete ramp?
Thabks, I had an old bbq grill top that I used to make those lines.
U need to put some dampproof caurse under bottom 4x4 agaist soil grass edge stop damp
Great base.. did u use pre fab concrete blocks for the slope? I was thinking about doing the same and drive rebar down like u showed.. nice base
ended up mixing a couple of bags of concrete on the slope beneath the pressure treated post.
Great video. What measurement of lumber used please ?
4x4 posts
How many yards of gravel did you use????
Roughly how much does the shed weigh?
What flooring did you use? Did that come with the shed or did you buy that separately? Thanks!
It came with the shed, the shed has a plastic type flooring. I added plywood on top and anchored it. Subscribe to see more videos on that.
Nice job, two questions:
1. Turns out there are lots of gravel types and sizes. What did you use?
2. What is the black spray you used on the 4x4s? (I paused the video, but couldn't make it out.)
Is it something special for pressure treated wood?
Thanks
Just regular spray paint with primer to further protect the PT wood and make it look good.. I used the common gravel you can buy from and outdoor place. It's called 3/4 gravel or bluestone.
Without concrete… but finally with concrete!
What size drill bit did you use for the rebar? And what did you spray the PT post with?
The drill bit was 1/2 I believe. The main reason I sprayed the PT was to make it look better and protect it little more. I didn't want it to get the old grey color as the PT ages. The spray paint should also help water from penetrating the PT just like any other paint protects the wood.
The paint looks nice but it does not last long in the sun. I have painted with spray paint on exterior wood before and it fades very quickly. The real protection is from the wood being pressure treated. If you’re looking to skip a step this would be it.
Looks nice, but I'm wondering why you kept the string in place. Seemed unnecessary once you spray painted the edges & dug out for the 4 x 4's - Especially after tripping over it.
I could of just used the string but then I decided to just spray paint the outline and remove the string which I decide not too just to make sure my spray paint out line was correct and I could continue to measure the string diagonals. With that being said I probably should of just remove the string earlier than I did, it was there to ensure the box was squared and I could measure the diagonal. Obviously I did this live and looking back I could of removed it sooner. Btw another important thing is to measure the diagonal on the posts to make sure that is square which means that just digging a foot more on all directions than setting the posts down checking for square without using the strings is an option, but I like to make sure its square right off the bat and use the strings to do that. It's all a matter if preference.
I have a few questions.
Where did you buy the gravel and about how much did you need to buy for this project? My Shed is 10x16.
I'm def nervous about the slope part.
Going to try this next week. Fingers Crossed.
Bought at an outdoor living place, where they sell pavers, sand etc. To calculate the gravel needed for for cubic yards formula, basically length x width x depth. Good luck an consider subscribing for more videos.
Hey, great work! I want to build one similar. That looks to be about 84sqft. How many cubic yards of gravel did you need for this?
I believe a little less than 2.5.
@@daP.ADid you lay the treated lumber on a couple inches layer of gravel or straight on the fabric (bit of gravel at the edges), and how long do you expect the treated lumber to last (in-spite of the coating spray painted - what paint is that?)? I am debating between 4x4 or 6x6 posts..
Did you end up posting how you anchored the shed? I want to do a gravel pad also but don't know how to anchor it. 😊
I'm looking for the same
Thanks for sharing. How much rock did you have to use ?
I think 2.5 yards. Width x height × length then convert from cubic feet to yards
If your saw kicked back, how would you get your knee out of the way? I'm referring to minute 6:00. Otherwise, awesome job!
Good point, if you notice my knee closest to the saw is back more. I was aware that could happen but should of taken better precaution. Thanks.
Im un decided what base i should yse for a new shed. I dont want water to hold and rot the base of the new shed. Aby ideas?? I want to use slabs thou
This method no water will ever collect on the surface.
Is it necessary to dig out the grass and put weed barrier down?
Yes, very important for stability etc.
I'm doing an 8x12 foundation, but my shed is 6x4 how do I anchor down the shed on top of the gravel.
I will be making a video on this soon, basically the weight you have inside should help. If your in a really high wind area you might need to take some other steps. One way is to anchor it on the 4x4 posts.
You have no moisture barrier between the concrete and the wood?
Its sitting on a layer of stone that allows for drainage.
Thought the black paint a nice touch
Absolutely
6:25 Is cutting without glasses acceptable?
Is trolling through peoples hard work to nit pick acceptable?
Use the gravel grid system - way better and so much easier
Going for cheap and reliable. The underlayment will help with stability. So far after intense rain and wine we had had zero issues
How many bags of stone was that. My bags are about 5.50 ish and for a 10x10 and 3-4 inches deep it’s be a crap ton of money
I didn't buy bags, got the stone from an outdoor material place, way cheaper.
I just completed my gravel base and for 2 tons of rock delivered to fill a 136sq ft area 4in deep it cost $175 delivered to my driveway. Priced out with bags from Home Depot it would have been $2500
How many yards of stone did you use?
About 1.5 yards I believe
You said 4-6 of gravel... Is that cubic yards? Bags?
4-6 inches deep of gravel, don't forget to compact it.
its nice to watch amatures playing in the sunshine 🤣
*amateurs
ironic ...i blame auto correct 🤣@@brianyhearne
wouldn't the wood eventually rot or decay overtime?
Its pressure treated. Its going to last a long time. It's also sitting on top of the stones for drainage. You can use cinder blocks as an alternative .
4 yrs would be extreme/min. 8-10 yrs is maybe average for cheap home depot lumber. if it was quality, or actually sealed/not just spray painted, maybe 20 yrs. Also probably matters if the slope has water sitting against the wood, or how much moisture/exposure those 4x4 experience.
THIS WOULDVE BEEN GREAT KNOWLEDGE TO HAVE BEFORE! I got my SHED ..and a few Constructive Comments, BEEEEEFORE CHUCKY MOVED IN UNDER MY SHED on that FRIDAY( THURSDAY WAS CLEAR) BECAUSE now I’ve armed myself with wood Chuck knowledge-(like they have 5 Entryways to there 25 foot long Solitary DEN,( which has its OWN BATHROOM CHAMBER & when it’s full he(?) Carves another-& most importantly! THEY CAN DIG 35 feet in 5minutes‼️ SO WE WIL BE CO HABITING MY YARD-better the shed than the house. \\\Anyway it looks like your Dad? CEMENTED OVER THE BASE 4x4 instead of the 4x4 on the blocks on gravel on fabric holding the gravel above soil( That’s what I do in other projects). Question-are your Fence posts Cemented in? It looks like you’ve slipped some PVC over the poles for function or looks or Both? Did you dig them in or rent a Pounder? Are there round clamps that would allow me to hang a Different Wire pence from( like Cowfencing from the to pole
Good luck with chucky.
How did the concrete magically appeared under the wood base?
We mix concrete and applied it under it, it's in the video. There's no magic.
No compacting?
I showed that on the video
Concrete is faster and and easier, Frame in the morning pour by afternoon.
More work, more money for concrete and you need to know how to work it. This method is very effective for the price.
@@daP.A u dont really need a dam under tool shed, thin crust of concrete on gravel bed with rebar nets will do the job and will be prolly cheaper than those beams
In my hometown it would cost $1500-1800 Canadian dollars to builda 10x10 concrete foundation.
Maybe a sod cutter would save you some work
You are using the skill saw in a dangerous way. Stand with legs to one side , or one to each side.
My shed doesn’t have concrete base and it’s started to mold ….i suggest concrete pad …I have to replace mine …
There will be a high moisture level in that shed.
It has constantly rained for weeks with no issues, with rain or water. No moisture at all, the gravel is doing its job and the base is solid.
How many bodies could a guy fit under that shed size? Asking for a friend...
Intact or puréed?
it will smell, in this case u will need to dig lil deeper, thicker concrete and thicker rebars above body so the tractor mower will not sink in
Really appreciate all the constructive suggestion guys, nice job. But digging deeper plus more materials will surely blow my budget, and all that messy purée might void my really awesome KitchenAid's warranty, you know, with the bones and all. I'm kind of leaning toward a "drill n fill" vertical stacking strategy, unless you guys see some flaw in my logic. I'm open to more suggestions...
Chains yes or no?
in my neighbourhood, 3 months later they'll be 3 rats nests dug under each 4x4..
You should move or make sure the neighborhood is cleaned. No issues here with rats.
forgive me being blunt but it's silly to say move & imply that your world is superior. It's all well & good until they come & reality is rodents are already wherever we are. 100% perfect environment for nesting, dry, easy burrow material, covered & no access for predators like cats. Easily reduce the odds with at least 18" depth of cage wire or rodent mesh all round inside the 4x4 (so 14 to 16 inch buried) assuming shed founded right up to 4x4. In the video example the exposed gravel area needs special measures - no problem, low expense use cage wire. Writing from very bitter experience my own & various neighbours' projects in the 4th least disadvantaged district in my country. Excellent video by the way, am inspired do similar good work..
you DO NOT have a video showing how to tie down the shed as promised at the end of the video
It's coming
Came out nice. But you guys worked more than you had to.
You need hard work for things to turn out nice.
Good except Always wear safety glasses 🥽
For all that work and expense you could have just ordered a truck with a couple yards of cement
In most areas you need a permit since is a permanent foundation. This method also is cheaper than concrete and its actually lo ess work. With concrete you still need to set forms and actually know how to work the concrete. Its method us cheaper, less work with way better drainage. It's also much simpler for the DIYers.
This will NOT meet Code in Florida!
Subscribe to see how I anchored it. Obviously when building anything check code but with the crazy wind in FL it might not meet code, then again its not a permanent structure. Can a table be lect outside in FL. Regardless check codes to see if foundation is appropriate. Where I live its accepted since there's no permanent foundation. It has survived gusts of 60 mph winds with no issues, didn't even budge.
You did a great job. But it looks like a hard job, not easy. I'd rather pay $2200 to a cement contractor to have a pad installed.
With hard work comes reward, but I understand your point. 2200 vs around 400.00 is a bug difference though.
@@daP.A Yes, and doing it yourself brings a great feeling of satisfaction.
You should always pre drill first, that will minimize PT from cracking...im done with CZcams
no
they should make environmentally friendly paint that you can spray onto grass and the ground without contaminating the Earth. People might say... "it's a small amount" but... 1,000,000 sheds x 1 million people spraying all sorts of chemicals into the Earth = a lot of contamination... :) LOL!
Sorry, Waste of time and money. Put portable barns on concrete blocks per the engineer drawings. That’s only if you buy a portable barn that’s engineer certified.
Too slow. Dnt u know about speed up camera work. So slow its boring. No wonder u oldies trip over 😂
$250 -- The platform costs 50% of what the shed costs
That base costs more than a thousand bucks.
The base was cheap, around 350/400. 3/4 blue stone and PT wood does not cost 1000. It was about 200 for the stone and another 150 or so for the wood and other material. This is one of the cheapest bases you can get.
Why the red spray? you already got the strings in place. It seems a waste of time, money and you are polluting the soil
Doing toooooooooooo much for a shed
its called doing it right!
@@daP.A many ways to do it right
EASY? LOL