Why is Crash Bandicoot More Popular Than Spyro the Dragon?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- It's not secret that Crash Bandicoot has had the spotlight over the past couple of years, and Spyro only had his time to shine in 2018. So, today we ask the question, Why is Crash Bandicoot More Popular Than Spyro the Dragon? Well, history seems to show a hint towards the answer.
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I think Japan should give Spyro another shot and not change anything about a future game. And maybe try to attract players who don’t have “3D sickness”.
I made a long post about it, but the short version is if Activision can't market Spyro to Japan, they could spread it via word of mouth. Give a copy to a select group of streamers or Vtubers to play it. The Vtuber scene is big over there so having one of them play Spyro could rouse some attention, much similar to what happened with games like Jump King or Vampire Survivor. I'm not a marketing expert, but it is one way to do it without spending so much on advertisements.
Spyro 3 japanese cut
Hola Senior Travis! Como estas?
I agree, give Spyro one last chance Japan!!!
*It's truly an irony that the continent Asia ,specifically Japan, the land where dragons is a huge significannce part of their culture and iconography, harshly reject and critique Spyro the Dragon in the video game industry!* 😅☺ *But if Crash Bandicoot can win the hearts in a multicultural and multilayered way throughout the decades in his video game franchise , maybe Spyro the Dragon can get his chance of redemption in the 2020s!* ;D 😇🌌❣🎮
I think it has to do with the dilution of Spyro's brand. Regardless of the "quality" of Crash's post-Naughty Dog games, he still remained prominent in them. Spyro, on the other hand, went through multiple reboots until he was used to market Skylanders, which sidelined Spyro as the franchise went on.
Crash of the titans & Mind over Mutant could be could be considered reboots & Crash went completely dark afterwards from Mind over Mutant until the N-sane trilogy. Skylanders at least kept Spyro's IP active in a sense.
The fact they sidelined Spyro is why I dislike Skylanders deeply. Not to hate the franchise itself just that fact in particular.
@@ivanspyro I agree. Skylanders shouldn't have completely replaced Spyro for 7 years. It's also a money sink.
*You gotta admit, Crash Bandicoot definitely has more innovation, inventive creativity, versatility ,popularity, relatability lovability ,replayability and of course durability in his video game franchise than Spyro! Don't worry, Spyro! Maybe Crash Bandicoot can help you get you out of the dump and back in action in the video game franchise world again in some way, shape or form!* ;D🎮
And that's why I can't forgive Skylanders.
It honestly makes me so sad how Spyro has been treated. I’ve always preferred Spyro to Crash. Those first three games bring me so much joy. I’ve beaten them so many times both on the original PS1 and then again in the Reignited Trilogy and they never get old to me. It’s such a shame how the franchise never got a proper treatment.
I was hoping Reignited would spark more interest and then Spyro 4 would get Spyro to where he deserves, but my hopes for Spyro 4 are fading.
Yea, chances of 4 are really low. I think me may see him in crossovers as a cameo but besides that nothing for a lloooooong time
I think you can blame Activision partially for at least some of Spyro’s lack of attention. There are rumors even now that a Spyro 4 game was in the works, but Activision decided to have the people in charge of the reignited trilogy to help make call of duty games. Unsure if they might’ve been allowed back on the project after the Microsoft buyout
@tiggy wiggo *I guess with the exception of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, I guess sapient reptilian hero/heroine characters don't get much glory than archetypal sapient anthropomorphic mammalian hero/heroine characters in nerd pop culture, especially in video games!* XD 😆 ☺🤗
I like em' both.
@tiggy wiggo Dragon Spirit and Freedom Planet are some examples in which you can play as a Dragon
Japan: Spyro plays "too fast" let's slow him down and fix the camera
Also Japan: makes Sonic the hedgehog and a bunch of other fast paced 3d games.
What we're they smoking?
I mean comparing cameras from the PS1 and Dreamcast isnt really that fair. If anything, the cancelled Sonic Xtreme was made when the tech was similar to the PS1 and it looked like it would give someone major motion sickness
Sonic is surprisingly not to popular in Japan.
Um Sonic was made but Japan but it was exclusively made with western audiences in mind. And besides, Sonic is not as popular in Japan as it is in the US.
@@BowserandLover1
I'm a big fan of The Sonic Series and The Spyro Series.
@@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 thats great why did you say that
Spyro is like the little brother to Crash that doesn't get enough love or attention. I love them both, but I loved Spyro more because I played him more back in the 90s up til now. But Spyro does deserve just as much spotlight as Crash does imo.
Yes
It even kinda works into their collaborations, with Crash always giving his little brother cameos in his stuff to keep his career going.
Skylanders can be considered Spyro returning the favour during Crash's own low point.
They both share our friendship from start but blame Sony and Act because they sold out crash and spyro
@@princessrosalina5442 cringe take+who asked?
I remember in Crash 2, you could enter a code in the main menu, to access a demo of Spyro the Dragon. It is kind of interesting that NG helped IG's mascot with his career. Like brothers helping each other.
Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the dragon are tied at being my most favorite video game protagonists.
I really hope Spyro gets new games. I really don't want him to be out of the spotlight that Crash is in.
My guess prior to watching this video is that the gameplay of these games played a role.
Crash had a much more linear "get to the end of the level" approach whole Spyro had more of an open ended collecathon approach. This meant that Crash would also be more approachable for more people. You could pick up a Crash game and instantly get into it while Spyro needed a lot more setup. Typically the more approachable and accessible something is, the more likely its going to stick.
My second prediction was the marketing. If I recall correctly, Crash was both a launch title for the PS1 and marketed as the PS mascot from day 1. While Spyro launched a few years later and was pushed a lot less in comparison because Crash was already the established draw.
I guess these are the main reasons for the discrepancies?
Edit: eh, I was half correct
Poor Spyro was neglected for the past 4 years while Crash got most of the attention.
The big difference is that Spyro was doing what Mario did whereas Crash was always about maintaining the linear design of 2D and translating it to 3D. Spyro had competition from Super Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot could be appreciated by an audience that wanted a challenge and knew they weren’t getting it from 3D platformers
As you touched on, I think the mascot factor has played a fairly big role. Crash essentially got to be the Playstation's Mario during the first generation. Mario had Mario Kart, Crash had Crash Team Racing. Mario had Mario Party, Crash had Crash Bash. I didn't even play the core Crash games, but the character was prominent enough that I had some exposure through Crash Bash.
crash is just a better game and character
crash has also allot of cool villians and bosses, spyro doesn't
Having played both franchises, I definitely have more nostalgic memories and love for the Spyro series. I hope one day our purple boy gets the redemption he deserves (no hate to Crash Bandicoot, I do like the games, I'm just a casual player)
Here’s one of the reasons why Crash Bandicoot became so popular in the 90s:
1. Crash Bandicoot did something a little different than other platformer games. Crash uses his spin attack to break crates and send enemies flying out of the level. Its platform is mechanics went to a 3D platformer game compared to Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog.
2. Sony needed a mascot for PlayStation to compete with Nintendo’s Mario and Sega’s Sonic.
3. Crash Bandicoot was a well established franchise. People really recognized Crash Bandicoot as a gaming character. They wanted Crash to appear in Smash Bros, but Crash didn’t made it in. If it weren’t for Crash Bandicoot, we would not have PlayStation today.
As for Spyro, it started as a 3D platformer on PlayStation. The first game had a demo included in Crash Bandicoot Warped and in one of the demo disc of the PS1. Both franchises when downhill after Sony finishes its deal with Universal Studios. Both Crash and Spyro came back as a remaster versions of the original classic games. No matter how popular Crash and Spyro is, always remember that Crash and Spyro here for all of us weather if it is a new game or not. We have mods that made modded levels of Crash Bandicoot and Spyro the Dragon. There is a community of Crash and Spyro just like Pokémon. Crash and Spyro was released on the same year as Pokémon. The only difference is that Crash Bandicoot was released on the same year that Pokémon started in Japan and Spyro the Dragon was released on the same year as Pokémon releases on other countries such as the US, Canada, and Europe.
It is completely unfair that Spyro is being left behind, only being given cameo appearances in Crash games after Spyro Reignited
I love both characters but Spyro should get as much attention as Crash
It's as if Activision thought that Skylanders was enough for "modern" Spyro and move on to Crash
You should be grateful for what you got. And considering how bad Activision is as a Company. It’s for the better. And what do you mean by the skylanders comparison?
@@nitrozeus6393 Basically from 2011/2012-2017 Skylanders was the main reboot of Spyro, and after Reignited in 2018, Activision kept on focusing more on Crash Bandicoot (besides Spyro having references and guest appearances in Crash games)
To me, it feels like Activision thinks/thought that fans shouldn't be demanding for more Spyro games because the Skylanders franchise was supposed to be their fill. It's as of Activision's been thinking "Why the demand for more Spyro games? Wasn't the Skylanders franchise enough?"
@@VersatileElement ok one. They never said once that skylanders was a reboot to spyro.
2. Crash being prioritized over Spyro was because crash is Just a more popular ip and like it or not. Companies are going to prioritize their more popular ips.
@@nitrozeus6393 Skylanders is pretty much a reboot of Spyro, just like the Legend of Spyro trilogy. It's just that Spyro's name was featured only in the title of the first game.
While it's true that Crash is more popular and more recognizable overall than Spyro, the purple dragons still has a more than devout fan base demanding for his share of newer games including a Spyro 4 in particular. It's not like Spyro Reignited Trilogy was a complete failure. Activision's been seemingly ignoring the Spyro demand as if there's little of it
Don't also forget that Spyro and Crash are sibling franchises that have shared a close relationship since their beginnings on the original PlayStation. Both shared the same publisher before Activision, and Spyro games used to follow up after every Crash game and vice versa... even Crash eventually joined Skylanders/Skylanders Academy. Then all of a sudden after NST and Reignited, Spyro's been left in the dust while Crash keeps getting new games
It sucks that Japan didn't give Spyro the same opportunity as Crash in terms of marketing... I don't get how game testers thought Spyro was too fast when Sonic games exist and Sonic 3D is still faster than NA/PAL version of Spyro's charge lol
It must've been a sabotage.
I've always liked Spyro more, even though Crash was also one of my first and favorite PS1 games, but the thing is that I loved exploring the open world, gliding and finding secret stuff, I also enjoyed the new things they added in the second and third games. Crash is fantastic, but it feels more linear and sometimes frustrating while dying and having to repeat the exact same thing over and over.
The expansive openness of Spyro levels were a technical marvel on the PS1 -- Insomniac swung for the fences and really knocked it out of the park.
As someone who remembers (or considers) Crash Bandicoot Warped to be their first game, my heart honestly is just tied to the Bandicoot, but as you gave your reasons, mine are more like yours, sentimental. My sister is the Spyro fan of my family, but we both love each franchise, I do wish Spyro got some more attention though. While I don't expect anything from Spyro for now, I DO expect something at least by 2024 like you said in one of your Spyro evidence videos. Although MY reason is because the reignited Year of the Dragon's platinum trophy literally says "Party like it's 2024!", which I know ties to the next Chinese year of the dragon, but also to me, was a direct sign of when to expect more Spyro content the moment I saw the Trophy pop.
Good review and to be honest, they’re both great mascots in general despite Crash having more games and Spyro has less games. Also, we all didn’t expect that your next video this week would involve Crash aside from Spyro.
The reason spyro has less games is cause spyro is on all fours which limits what he can do
@@renamon5658 perhaps….
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Which is stupid because I always prefer Spyro over Crash.
I think it's because crash took more risks than spyro and while not all of them stuck the landing it didn't lead to burnout through using the exact same formula. Even wrath of cortex despite its reputation gave a lot variety with its multiple game play styles
I agree
wut? Spyro was literally turned into an hack-n-slash with the rebooted trilogy. If anything, as the video above literally states in the last minute, the problem is Activision did too much random sh!t with Spyro, rather than stick to an overall baseline like they did with Crash (a.k.a. keep it a bloody platforming game).
@@gmilh yeah spyro in skylanders just seemed weird I agree they should have stuck with the original 3D platformer style that was so popular, it shows that with crash 4 a brand new modern entry in the series with the same classic 3D crash platforming with new additions will still be extremely popular with fans who grew up with the series like me
@@therunawaykid6523
I would love to see Spyro get remastered versions of Spyro Enter The Dragonfly Spyro A Hero's Tail and Spyro Shadow Legacy and then continue where Shadow Legacy left off.
I have to replay your opening credit multiple times before even watching the rest of the video. That opening animation was so cool, especially the Spyro breathing fire while Crash doing a wicked pose :)
I was thinking and typing about this topic. Thanks for this video, man. 😄 I appreciate your content!
7:14 " there's a cafe theme in Saudi Arabia "
Me who lives in Saudi Arabia: " Wait Wut?! How come i didn't know about this?! "
My god... Spyro looks exhausted in the thumbnail ! He look like he's going to scrumble if Crash doesn't hold him. What happened to wear him out like that ? Great video btw.
Interesting. It seems like Crash is to Spyro as Mario is to Sonic. Crash and Mario both stayed mostly consistent while Spyro and Sonic both got drastically altered multiple times and got treated significantly worse. I think what I love about Sonic specifically is the potential it *could* have realized had things gone better for it. I suppose you could say the same for Spyro, although to a somewhat lesser extent.
It's also kind of interesting how the primary color of the main character in each is only slightly different from the earlier generation counterparts I'm using for comparison, ie Mario = Red, Crash = Orange, while Sonic = Blue, Spyro = Purple; Yellow added to Red makes Orange, Red added to Blue makes Purple, which also even means equal rotationary direction along the color wheel for both changes).
I think the thing always holding Sonic back ironically was his speed. It's easy to pull off in 2d but more difficult in 3d which is probably why Mario ditched it for more explorable places. Sonic adventures tried doing a hub world but it was ruined on account of how fast sonic would move around.
@@siresorb1419 I think it's another bigger problem that the nature of Sonic games as we know them divided the fanbase a lot, resulting in a lot of backlash no matter what they tried (except less so for Sonic Mania, which was made by fans of course), and instead of fixing good ideas that weren't executed well, they have the devs try something different from everything before, hence why they never went back to the Adventure formula after 06 failed (due to no fault of the devs themselves; that game had a hellishly messy dev process). Creating a vicious cycle.
Sega could do better with Sonic even despite his speed making it harder to problem solve for these kinds of things, but they haven't done very well as of yet. I think Sonic Unleashed (on the more powerful PS3/360 consoles) did the best job implementing a hub world in Sonic games.
@@mikeexits
I like both Sonic and Spyro they're cooler.
I've always hated this. As someone who doesn't even like Crash at all, but is an avid Spyro fan, this is especially frustrating.
Spyro needs to stop getting treated like the redheaded step child.
Spyro is like some of Nintendo's properties that aren't mario or zelda
Starfox, F-zero and a few more haven't been made in such a long time
Glad that you're sharing this video because I was also wondering the same thing
I always feel so bad when I hear people say Crash is better then Spyro, and when a new Crash game comes out my heart always sink in sadness. I'm not mad at Crash but the fact people praise him more just bad... Spyro is a 3D adventure platformer with was landscapes, exploration is key and he is a dragon! What else do you need? I just hope for a new Spro game, I really wish for a new one.
If I got a chance to reboot it, I would do it either alone or with people who are like me, fans of it and want to continue the story, but I would want help from the original creators for that, and if that license go to me, I will protect his image with all I can from "others".
NGL, that thumbnail art that Travis drew gives me Robots vibes. And *I love it,* a lot. XD
In short as Crash was treated with marketing, devs stumped how Spyro flopped throwing him the grinder (several times)
You damn right Crash has massive appeal in Brazil! I can confirm that! With the popularity of PS1 growing, the gray market also grew. We haven't original PS1 games back then, so it was pretty easy to get your hands in the 3 games for less than 10$. I still remember buying like 4 copies of CTR because I would play the hell out of it until the disc stop working. I believe this helped Crash become what it is today. EVERYONE owned the game here.
Wow~😄 And here I thought It was Very Popular in Japan and Japan helped with it's Popularity Growth. Great to know. Also I hear Friday Night Funkin is real Popular there as well. I have a Brazilian Friend on Twitter that mentioned to me that FNF is Very Popular in Brazil. I know off Topic but just wanted to point that out.
@@joshuastephens66 Yes it is! FNAF and Free Fire also has a huge popularity here, FNAF oddly mostly with children, we think of it as a "horror game for kids". Don't ask me why xD
*Wow! ;D Crash Bandicoot and his video game franchise as well as the Fandom are truly multi-cultural as well as multi-layered!* *That's awesome!* ;D ^-^
Funny you should say that because I now own 3 copies of CTR. Owned 2 as a kid (my original and the one my aunt gave me after my disc stopped working) and one I bought a year or two ago. It was supposed to be the original release (not greatest hits) because I wanted to have the cool color disc but they said the disc was too damaged and gave me a different disc so I now have 3 greatest hits copies of CTR lol
Spyro was my second console game. My first was Bugs Life for the Ps1. That is such an underrated game.
Also the way they remade the dragons in the re ignited trilogy was nothing short of a masterpiece.
Love the editing!
Also, I’m a bit surprised you didn’t mention the other issues you unearthed while streaming the Japanese version of Spyro 2, like the underwater charge being nerfed into a single boost
That 3D sickness thing is sooo real lol. I could never play Spyro for more than a few minutes. I thought it was just me all this time
eh doesn't mean you should completely fuck the game for the amount of people that do, never been a problem for me at lest
For me only the first game did that. Was that the case for you too?
I am still waiting for spyro 4. My hope doesnt die.
We have until the end of 2024 to hear an announcement because 2024 is gonna be the year of the dragon. if they’re planning a sequel at all they will announce it before the end of that year, though my money is on some kind of announcement coming this Saturday because Spyro‘s anniversary is this Saturday
Because Crash didn't get rebooted twice
I don't how big of a thing this would be, but I believe it's also worth mentioning that Spyro's games are more complicated to be made on a technical point. Crash has linear paths and levels, which are simpler than a semi open area like Spyro, both in construction and testing. Making a Spyro game takes longer than a Crash game
Spyro New Creativity In His Gameplay in Spyro’s New Games
Great video as always 👌
crash is much more tight, sharp and detailed. the whole time youre navigating tight jumps, stopping and going and later on doing flashy moves. in spyro youre either walking or running with very sparsely placed one-dimensional enemies and collecting gems placed here and there.
the exact reason why i still play super mario 3 and world every year a couple of times but i havent touched super mario 64 or sunshine in a decade. the first experience of those was fun but longevity just isnt there
Glad Im not the only one who just doesnt like Collect-a-thons. They just get in the way of the pacing and forcing you to replay a level instead of insentivising you of out enjoyment
@@hwanniggles187 ok now i need to say i "like" them and i dont want spyro to turn into linear corridor platformer. games too often get a habit of jumping into the popular bandwagon. spyro has its place but its way less intense and "wow did you just do that?". i also rarely play epic rpgs again even though the first time is awesome.
I feel bad for Spyro! As a Spyro fan, I can’t help but feel like we are being done dirty with no new Spyro games!
I'm sick of waiting for Activision to say something, but I'm still confident in Spyro 4's existence because it wouldn't have been teased otherwise. Any leakers claiming that it doesn't or was cancelled are just theorizing like the rest of us or raining on our parade by pretending to have information.
There was also a fan organized Spyro [online] community day on June 4th that TFB & The Spyro Twitter account both acknowledged & the fact that merch companies are still creating merch that the Spyro Twitter was promoting. think the merch is still being made to keep hype at a low, but present level until we get some kind of announcement.
I believe that Spyro 4 has been in development in some form since March 2020 at the latest due to the dating of the Twitter leak I mentioned & the Crash 4 artbook tease.
I suspect that Spyro’s redesign in Crash On the Run is hinting at Spyro 4 otherwise why would King bother to redesign him for a mobile game as opposed to just using a lower resolution version of his Reignited model?
I still believe the March 2020 TheGamingRevolution Tweet [since deleted through an account suspension] that "a new Spyro game is in the works "and to "expect more info in the coming months" because I believe said leaker has a perfect [or at least very accurate] track record. The reason we don't have any info on the game 26 months later is because of the market chaos, delays & electronics shortages [especially the PS5 situation] caused by the pandemic that nobody could’ve predicted the specifics of.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Actvision-Blizzard lawsuits have delayed the game even further due to the company’s resources being redirected to deal with them.
Who knows how long the Microsoft buyout had been planned for prior to its announcement? It may've already been considered with regard to Wumpa League & Spyro 4, which could be a contributing factor as to why they haven’t been announced.
Spyro is a PS mascot, so he'd be more heavily affected by the PS5 situation; I wouldn't be surprised if whoever's making Spyro 4 has been forced to create a PS4/ previous gen version as well. That would explain why we haven’t seen the trailer yet.
I'm under the impression that the PS5 is more heavily affected then the other 2 consoles, which is why I mentioned it specifically. Just to clarify, I doubt TfB is making Spyro 4 & I didn't think they were in the 1st place; If they are, then It'll end up delayed even more due to the CoD fiasco. If I had to guess who's developing it, I'm guessing it's Beenox.
While I don't think TfB is the studio making Spyro 4, the art book tease & the fact that they acknowledged the Spyro community day leads me to believe that they have [or at least had] intel on it.
Canadian Guy Eh determined that the activity patten of the Spyro trademarks also closely resembles what was happening in the leadup to the release of Crash 4. Why would Activision waste money extending new Spyro trademarks If they weren’t going to use them?
I don't care if Spyro 4 comes later. I'll just be happy whenever the trailer drops. The longer until Spyro 4 releases, the longer it has been in development & the better it'll likely be because of that.
Spyro 4 is real and it's Cynder's ticket back into the main franchise! It would take a counterclaim from a verified Activison account to convince me otherwise!
Spyro 4 could also be more ambitious than we think & Wumpa League is being teased to buy it more dev time.
I haven't doubted Spyro 4's existence since we got that artbook tease. It'd only take a single Tweet for ActiBlizz to disconfirm it, but they haven't.
If Spyro 4 doesn't show up by 2023 for instance, all that would indicate is that it would be in development for at least 3 years at that point.
I'm confused as well. the devs know we want Spyro 4 & its existence 1st got leaked 26 months ago. Hopefully we're going to get 4-5 years worth of nonstop Spyro games like we did with Crash. Either that or they're going for quality over quantity. I.e something that makes Crash 4 look like ETD in terms of quality by comparison.
it's also possible that the long dev time of Spyro 4 is because it could be something so unexpected, ambitious & unbelievable [eg a BOTW style open world game and/or a TLOS remake/4th entry] that Activison doesn't want any info given away too early.
Stewart Copeland announced on Twitter that the Spyro Soundtrack release was delayed to May 4th for a reason he isn't telling us. It's real & the magnitude of the delay combined with the lack of clarification indicates he most likely knows something about Spyro 4. Time has shown that it wasn't an April fools prank, although it was daft to make the original soundtrack release date April 1st .
@@maxkozak9702
Yeah and I always prefer Spyro since I like Dragons.
Spyro was light years more popular during the whole Skylander series. Spyro had his sun shining moment. Albeit not a real Spyro game he was still a household name
This might be a personal take, but Spyro's control could be a another factor. Spyro is much harder to pick up because of a lot of factors and because of how spyro feels and plays. Trying to introduce a title with a control scheme that almost makes Sonic riders blush is really difficult.
@@gircakes His glide and weight doesn't feel right to me, and trying to manage the camera whilst trying to get used to certain mechanics such as charging towards certain enemies or even flying, I just wasn't having any of it
bruh, Spyro was the first game I have ever finished and I still couldn't hold a knife to cut food, and the second game i have ever finished was Medievil, whose control is even more slippery. it's not that big of a deal
@@GigaLem Im sorry but you are talking some kind of nonsesne. Spyro has easy and intuitive control scheme. Mario games are bloated messes in comparsion.
@@GigaLem maybe you're just bad at the game lol
I wonder how interesting it would be if they did something different for Spyro? I'm not talking like Sky Landers (which was a waste for someone like Sypro). I was thinking if they could make a comics series or a show for Sypro of having him going on adventures like what he did in the classic and legends trilogy games. But different by having references from both game trilogies that have several story arcs as the story goes on while having the main villains be a lot more challenging than in the games, having new antagonist, and more character developments and background from everyone.
I love your SPICY video, CGE. It was well made and I see now the history of Spyro better because I'll be honest yes. Crash Bandicoot has a special place in my heart, as Crash 3 Warped is one of my first PS1 games I ever played and the OG CTR made it so much better. I remember when I was a young kid and I would play hours and upon hours with my brother or sister in a multiplayer of CTR, we had made a lot of memories and until to this day, despite they both have work and own families now. They still remember Crash even decades later.
That's how important Crash Bandicoot is to my family. Also I will be honest, while I may not know Spyro that much compare to the Orange Boy, I still love the series I mean heck, it looks pretty cool and the characters are totally amazing. Yes I wish Spyro can have more love like Crash but I can't deny that both series are fantastic ^^
I miss your old intro. Rewatching this and it brings me back.
It always seemed to me that while Crash is more popular with general gaming audiences, Spyro has a more dedicated and active fanbase. Spyro fans are PASSIONATE. Art, animations, fan games. You just don't see it on the same scale with Crash fans. Spyro left more of an impact on the people that grew up with it. I had and played both series growing up and Spyro always stuck with me and remained one of my favourite series ever. I hate that Spyro is just relegated to appearing in Crash spin offs and has to live in Crash's shadow instead of being his own character and series.
I lean towards Crash for objective sentimental values. This is from a guy who played both when they released back in the day. I did played Crash before Spyro came. But even with that said, I loved Spyro for everything that it brought to the table upon release. For everything you explained in the video, each of there history is literally why I loved both franchises as much as I do. And how it defines my love for gaming in my youth. Crash had a richer history, and more games followed it’s influence. I like to think that’s why he was a stronger candidate to be in something like Smash Bros. I had no idea Spyro in Japan was tarnished. I mean that is messed up…
I know you've made a lot of Crash videos on this channel, but I was wondering if you could make a video talking about the handheld Crash games. Your thoughts on them and what you think went right and what went wrong. Just an idea that I'd like to see on your channel sometime in the future.
That makes me really sad :( I love Spyro so much and was a huge part of my childhood
I wish Spyro had more popularity
I think what could help with Spyro is if he was a playable character in some Crash games, or have a hidden game play with him in a Crash game.
Or better idea, Activision stops milking Crash and give Spyro a god damn chance.
Spyro doesn't get the love it deserves
But Crash Bandicoot is obviously more recognisable and popular since he was more original and classic.
Both are great but I always preferred Spyro
He's what started my fascination with dragons when I was a child! I thought they were cool and Spyro solidified that for me.
Spyro the Dragon was my "killer app" for the Playstation 1 era. Saved up for a (used) PSX just to get it, did not regret.
Crash has had more time and luck to truly be popular, but Spyro has way more potential in terms of story and I seriously think that if they developed more of a multimedia franchise for Spyro I seriously think it can compete with the monopoly Sonic has right now
@@princessrosalina5442 cringe take+who asked?
I’ve always preferred Spyro over Crash. I never played Crash Bandicoot growing up. The only Crash games I’ve ever played so far were the Disco mini game from McDonald’s, the N Sane version of the first game, and the N Sane version of Cortex Strikes Back. I’ve never played the original PS1 versions of those 2 games and I’ve never played Warped yet. I can’t call myself a Crash Bandicoot fan…yet. I did play as Crash and Cortex in Skylanders Imaginators, fully upgraded them, and got them both to level 20. As for Spyro, I’m a HUGE fan and I’ve played every single game in the main series. I am disappointed that I never got any of the Spyro mini games from McDonald’s or ANY of the other Spyro fast food toys. I do want the Sparx plush from Taco Bell to pin to my Spyro onesie whenever I wear it.
Total opposite for me have played crash games over 20 years now!
i think another element is just how the games work.
Crash is about tight platforming challenges. Walk forwards, meet an obstacle - best the obstacle. At its core its constant heart pumping tests of skill. It follows in 2D marios footsteps.
Spyro is far more open ended. "go and find X. Good luck." Spyro begs you do just chill out and explore, calm down and pick your own challenges. Its like a proto open world game.
Of course, that isn't all the games do. They both have explorative elements, they both have heart pounding platforming challenges, they both change with their sequels - and they are both GOOD.
But whenever something is more immediately challenging, flashy and intense - it tends to stick in the brain more than something that wants you to give it methodical time.
I love both series. Crash a little more, but Spyro deserves love too!
Tldr: Crash was first. Whole 2 years head start
❤I Loves Crash Bandicoot & Crash Bandicoot is My Childhood & I Loves Crash Bandicoot Now too & I do love Spyro But Spyro is not My Childhood
Spyro was my childhood, and Crash was just that guy that was somehow connected to him that I didn't care about. That hasn't really changed much so I am a bit bitter that Crash has so much more modern love and attention than Spyro ever did or ever will.
Omg relatable
Back in the PS1 era if somebody mentioned it I'd probably have answered "Crash _who?"_ not so much for being a Spyro fan (though I was) but because I don't really remember Crash being a thing at all.
Nah crash is legendary
Crash 1 made a big splash with Crash running towards the screen and levels like Whole Hog. The levels felt detailed with all the scenery they have even with the PS1 low poly count and it was hard but still fun
Bro, my 1st game was pokemon red and the og spyro trilogy was my 1st console games! That's crazy. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video! How did the trilogies do in Japan and wouldn’t Crash Bash and Team Racing also be considered a shift in things that didn’t actually work out for Spyro?
Between the two, I think the evidence points to Crash being more open to experimentation rather than Spyro. Crash was the one with kart racers, party games, planned a Cortex spin-off and a more stylized reboot in the mid 2000's. On the other hand, once Spyro found it's groove of "simple 3D Platformer with side characters thrown in", it didn't really do much outside of that.
Don't forget the transition to Fantasy Beat 'em up once the then new publisher (Sierra) wanted a more mature Spyro.
@@X2011racer Yeah I was going to mention the reboot games for each of them, but I've literally never seen anyone play the Spyro reboot games, so I wasn't sure what kind of gameplay they had.
*Exactly! :D Crash Bandicoot definitely gets the A+ for innovation ,versatility and inventive creativity in their video game franchise!* ;D🎮
To be fair they were all mostly what was hot at the time.
There was nothing wrong with that.
Spyro changed alot as a mainline title.
Oh so it wasn't the Soundtrack issue, just Crash is more popular than Spyro
Spyro should've never tried to become "cool, dark and edgy" with the PS2 games. Crash didn't and he was rewarded
Maybe Spyro is a bit less popular because it’s much easier than crash, that being said I like Spyro a bit more. Since Crash 4 was way harder than crash 1-3 I could see 80% of the levels in Spyro 4 being harder than tree tops and haunted towers which are 2 of the hardest Spyro levels imo
Sounds like a sad story of a little brother trying to keep up with his big brother popularity in life.
I like to think Spyro talks about this with Crash, so Crash invites him to his games to help his bro.
Actually, that's weird. I'm more of a Crash fan than a Spyro fan, but I seen a lot of Spyro art and hype around the Reignited Trilogy. I mean, I felt like the hype for that game was more high than the N. Sane Trilogy. Hell, I won't surprised if the new Spyro game gets more hype than Crash 4.
As a Skylanders fan, I’m poised to grab Spyro 4 in a heartbeat! I still don’t have Crash 4, and I don’t really intend to. I don’t find Crash as fun or nostalgic as Spyro.
I was obsessed with Crash before Spyro existed. But one place where Spyro falls way behind is with replayability. I often love to replay my favorite Crash levels for fun, and you can even play them in time trial mode for something new. On the other hand, you can go replay a Spyro level... but once you've grabbed the gems the level is empty so replaying it is more boring.
I tend to replay the entire games as opposed to replaying levels. And I think I played all three Spyros wayyyy too much back in the day (currently replaying Reignited again actually... Hmm.)
I love both Crash and Spyro games and I wish we have more games for the purple guy. Spyro 4 when?
5:04 I think you are right
Do you know, in the late 1990's, so many Vietnamese chose Crash to play when they had a PS1 too
All I know is that I'm currently working on getting 106% on Crash 4, and me and him have been getting into it lately. I still love him though.
I personally like Crash Bandicoot better than Spyro is because Crash Bandicoot is more linear than Spyro. Even as a kid I preferred linear games over open world games because I knew what I needed to do and where to go. With a open world games like Spyro I don't know where to go and it makes the game not fun. That's why I prefer Crash Bandicoot over Spyro.
Crash games are just better overall but I agree that Spyro deserves to be more popular than what it is (but not more popular than Crash)
Shout out to the play testers who complained about 3D sickness and caused a catastrophic chain of a events to squander Spyro’s potential in Japan
I did notice that the marketing for Crash Bandicoot is leagues beyond what Spyro has had. It seems like marketing and game release windows were the two main factors that contributed to Spyro losing the popularity contest, despite the two mascots being hailed as rivals since their inception like Ratchet and Jak.
As someone that owns and played both games as a kid, I leaned more towards Spyro and still do to this day. Even though the Spyro Reignited Trilogy was released after the Crash N. Sane Trilogy, I got Spyro first. Spyro may be what got me into my gamer preferences for open-world free-roam games that have collectables hidden in any nook and cranny you can find. While the Crash games are also collectathons, the level structure is hella linear and doesn't give much room for exploration.
By the way, just being nitpicky, but remaster and remake are not the same thing and should not be used interchangeably. The N. Sane Trilogy and Reignited Trilogy are remakes.
I really miss Spyro. We better have something in the works!
I'm sick of waiting for Activision to say something, but I'm still confident in Spyro 4's existence because it wouldn't have been teased otherwise. Any leakers claiming that it doesn't or was cancelled are just theorizing like the rest of us or raining on our parade by pretending to have information.
There was also a fan organized Spyro [online] community day on June 4th that TFB & The Spyro Twitter account both acknowledged & the fact that merch companies are still creating merch that the Spyro Twitter was promoting. think the merch is still being made to keep hype at a low, but present level until we get some kind of announcement.
I believe that Spyro 4 has been in development in some form since March 2020 at the latest due to the dating of the Twitter leak I mentioned & the Crash 4 artbook tease.
I suspect that Spyro’s redesign in Crash On the Run is hinting at Spyro 4 otherwise why would King bother to redesign him for a mobile game as opposed to just using a lower resolution version of his Reignited model?
I still believe the March 2020 TheGamingRevolution Tweet [since deleted through an account suspension] that "a new Spyro game is in the works "and to "expect more info in the coming months" because I believe said leaker has a perfect [or at least very accurate] track record. The reason we don't have any info on the game 26 months later is because of the market chaos, delays & electronics shortages [especially the PS5 situation] caused by the pandemic that nobody could’ve predicted the specifics of.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Actvision-Blizzard lawsuits have delayed the game even further due to the company’s resources being redirected to deal with them.
Who knows how long the Microsoft buyout had been planned for prior to its announcement? It may've already been considered with regard to Wumpa League & Spyro 4, which could be a contributing factor as to why they haven’t been announced.
Spyro is a PS mascot, so he'd be more heavily affected by the PS5 situation; I wouldn't be surprised if whoever's making Spyro 4 has been forced to create a PS4/ previous gen version as well. That would explain why we haven’t seen the trailer yet.
I'm under the impression that the PS5 is more heavily affected then the other 2 consoles, which is why I mentioned it specifically. Just to clarify, I doubt TfB is making Spyro 4 & I didn't think they were in the 1st place; If they are, then It'll end up delayed even more due to the CoD fiasco. If I had to guess who's developing it, I'm guessing it's Beenox.
While I don't think TfB is the studio making Spyro 4, the art book tease & the fact that they acknowledged the Spyro community day leads me to believe that they have [or at least had] intel on it.
Canadian Guy Eh determined that the activity patten of the Spyro trademarks also closely resembles what was happening in the leadup to the release of Crash 4. Why would Activision waste money extending new Spyro trademarks If they weren’t going to use them?
I don't care if Spyro 4 comes later. I'll just be happy whenever the trailer drops. The longer until Spyro 4 releases, the longer it has been in development & the better it'll likely be because of that.
Spyro 4 is real and it's Cynder's ticket back into the main franchise! It would take a counterclaim from a verified Activison account to convince me otherwise!
Spyro 4 could also be more ambitious than we think & Wumpa League is being teased to buy it more dev time.
I haven't doubted Spyro 4's existence since we got that artbook tease. It'd only take a single Tweet for ActiBlizz to disconfirm it, but they haven't.
If Spyro 4 doesn't show up by 2023 for instance, all that would indicate is that it would be in development for at least 3 years at that point.
I'm confused as well. the devs know we want Spyro 4 & its existence 1st got leaked 26 months ago. Hopefully we're going to get 4-5 years worth of nonstop Spyro games like we did with Crash. Either that or they're going for quality over quantity. I.e something that makes Crash 4 look like ETD in terms of quality by comparison.
it's also possible that the long dev time of Spyro 4 is because it could be something so unexpected, ambitious & unbelievable [eg a BOTW style open world game and/or a TLOS remake/4th entry] that Activison doesn't want any info given away too early.
Stewart Copeland announced on Twitter that the Spyro Soundtrack release was delayed to May 4th for a reason he isn't telling us. It's real & the magnitude of the delay combined with the lack of clarification indicates he most likely knows something about Spyro 4. Time has shown that it wasn't an April fools prank, although it was daft to make the original soundtrack release date April 1st .
nintendo & xbox will never take crash & spyro away from amazing Sony PlayStation...all of PlayStation 1, 2 ,3 ,4 ,5, PSP, PS Vita, PS VR, & other PS consoles will always be the best place to play crash & spyro games on...long live Japanese Sony PlayStation & all their electronics, tech, movies, & Game Studios are forever the greatest!!
When I was 8 I remember trying both Spyro: Year of the Dragon and and Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex and I only completed the Crash game while I remember being stuck at the start of Spyro. Why? No idea. Never played it again. Maybe it was because the game was in English but I understood only Polish back then, being born in Poland and all that.
ehh i finished spyro 3 100%, and i didn't understand english either at the time either (9 years old from Iceland) if i remember correctly the Pal version had a few languages, i don't know if Polish was one of them (definitely no icelandic lol)
you don't need much english knowledge for most if it i think, just know that you are supposed to find eggs and the challenges are pretty self explanatory,
this is something i worry about with the current games, if our youngsters can play the games without learning English first
Gex on 3do was my first home console game kinda it was my moms but the first one I personally owned (mom bought it mind you) was crash along with my ps1 for chistmas 🎄
Great video! rlly explained the situation well :)
I feel there was a time when crash was Quite forgotten or just not to popular while spyro was still getting popularity and look at the bandicoot now hopefully the same is happening with spyro
Which do u prefer crash bandicoot or spyro
For me I have to go for crash hes one of my favourite game characters :)
@@edgemaster334 *I choose Crash Bandicoot and the rest of his fellow heroic Bandicoot heroes!* :D *Sorry, Spyro! Nothing personal!* 🤗😁😇🌌❣🧡❤💙 ♀️♂️🦊 🛡⚖ 🥭 🐾❤💙💛☁️🌈⚡
I’d classify launch window as a system’s first 3-6 months. Everything after is just the system’s natural lifecycle
In essence, Spyro’s marketing, CRASHED!!
This video ended abruptly wtf
as someone who grew up with the entire series of Crash as a child (by entire series, I mean literally the entire series up until MoM, I played all PS1, PS2, GBA and DS games) I actually love the original Spyro Trilogy more than the original Crash Trilogy. didn't play the rest of the series but I wish Spyro had more chance to shine like Crash. Crash's latter games were many and all of them were pretty solid (with exception to Boom Bang, and some of the DS/GBA versions of Titans and Mutants)
Crash and Spyro ironically have a lot of things in common. They defined the PS1 as a console, the people who originally developed them lost ownership, they were past over to various development teams including being part of the same development studio in the case of Traveler's Tales, they've crossed over numerous times, they got rebooted and rebranded several times, they went on hiatus for over half a decade, and they're currently shackled by Activision which is owned by Microsoft. Irony at it's peak.
Spyro had a more fun gameplay overall in my opinion. Crash was great too but linear and I wouldev liked for Spyro to be just as popular and get a new game too like crash did too
I personally prefer Crash. While I have great childhood memories for both Spyro and Crash, the linearity of Crash made it fun to replay a lot more than Spyro plus Warped was the very first PS1 game I remember picking up ❤️
I am baffled that they fucked up the camera in spyro 2 japanese after the first game bombed. You'd think they got the memo....
When I was younger I liked Crash a little more than Spyro but now it’s not even close. I Love Spyro way more. I love the reMake for Spyro more. I like the character more. I like the game play more. I just think Spyro is a funnier game overall.
Edit* oh and Pokémon Yellow is my favorite Pokémon game. Lol
I've always felt like Dragons in general are I guess harder to design a game for since when you really think about it, there aren't a lot of video games out there about dragons. Crash being a humanoid shaped character makes him generally easier to design levels for I guess. Probably why you don't see that many 4-legged protags In general honestly
Funfact : In my case i'm barely interested on Crash.
And i absolutely ADORE Spyro (i bought the Spyro Reignited Trilogy three times, once for the PS4, once for the Switch ... and a third time for the PS4 "phisical copy with all 3 games included").
Even as someone who has more of a connection with Crash for simply playing more of his games, I can’t help but feel bad for Spyro and his fans. It also didn’t help that after both franchises are no longer tied into being Sony exclusives, Crash simply found more success. Just look at Crash Twinsanity and Spyro Enter The Dragonfly. Both went through development hell and despite the issues from a technical level, Crash Twinsanity managed to please audience more.
The answer could be very simple
Crash wears pants, you wear pants, I wear pants
Pants relatability boosts sales
I agree with all your points here. Also, great editing by Lore of the Dragon!!
To be fair, Spyro 3 releasing just 2-days before the PS2 was actually kind of a good thing. Because the PS2 was backwards compatible with every single PS1 game. Which, in of itself was really good considering the small number of PS2 titles at launch. And honestly, that's how I experienced Spyro 3.
Not to mention Spyro 3 got the Greatest Hits reprint, which also fixed a few issues with the initial release. So that's nice, it's just a shame Spyro didn't have a proper chance back then in other parts of the world. Thankfully that changed with Reignited!
Concerning Spyro's popularity in the modern market I think it's evened out with Crash a fair bit. The issue is that Activision refuses to so much as give Spyro a chance. With him being downgraded to a glorified background character, or having his own remaster undercut by the orange rat.
Actually, Crash is not rat. He's a marsupial.
Because bandicoots are marsupials.
I'm sick of waiting for Activision to say something, but I'm still confident in Spyro 4's existence because it wouldn't have been teased otherwise. Any leakers claiming that it doesn't or was cancelled are just theorizing like the rest of us or raining on our parade by pretending to have information.
There was also a fan organized Spyro [online] community day on June 4th that TFB & The Spyro Twitter account both acknowledged & the fact that merch companies are still creating merch that the Spyro Twitter was promoting. think the merch is still being made to keep hype at a low, but present level until we get some kind of announcement.
I believe that Spyro 4 has been in development in some form since March 2020 at the latest due to the dating of the Twitter leak I mentioned & the Crash 4 artbook tease.
I suspect that Spyro’s redesign in Crash On the Run is hinting at Spyro 4 otherwise why would King bother to redesign him for a mobile game as opposed to just using a lower resolution version of his Reignited model?
I still believe the March 2020 TheGamingRevolution Tweet [since deleted through an account suspension] that "a new Spyro game is in the works "and to "expect more info in the coming months" because I believe said leaker has a perfect [or at least very accurate] track record. The reason we don't have any info on the game 26 months later is because of the market chaos, delays & electronics shortages [especially the PS5 situation] caused by the pandemic that nobody could’ve predicted the specifics of.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Actvision-Blizzard lawsuits have delayed the game even further due to the company’s resources being redirected to deal with them.
Who knows how long the Microsoft buyout had been planned for prior to its announcement? It may've already been considered with regard to Wumpa League & Spyro 4, which could be a contributing factor as to why they haven’t been announced.
Spyro is a PS mascot, so he'd be more heavily affected by the PS5 situation; I wouldn't be surprised if whoever's making Spyro 4 has been forced to create a PS4/ previous gen version as well. That would explain why we haven’t seen the trailer yet.
I'm under the impression that the PS5 is more heavily affected then the other 2 consoles, which is why I mentioned it specifically. Just to clarify, I doubt TfB is making Spyro 4 & I didn't think they were in the 1st place; If they are, then It'll end up delayed even more due to the CoD fiasco. If I had to guess who's developing it, I'm guessing it's Beenox.
While I don't think TfB is the studio making Spyro 4, the art book tease & the fact that they acknowledged the Spyro community day leads me to believe that they have [or at least had] intel on it.
Canadian Guy Eh determined that the activity patten of the Spyro trademarks also closely resembles what was happening in the leadup to the release of Crash 4. Why would Activision waste money extending new Spyro trademarks If they weren’t going to use them?
I don't care if Spyro 4 comes later. I'll just be happy whenever the trailer drops. The longer until Spyro 4 releases, the longer it has been in development & the better it'll likely be because of that.
Spyro 4 is real and it's Cynder's ticket back into the main franchise! It would take a counterclaim from a verified Activison account to convince me otherwise!
Spyro 4 could also be more ambitious than we think & Wumpa League is being teased to buy it more dev time.
I haven't doubted Spyro 4's existence since we got that artbook tease. It'd only take a single Tweet for ActiBlizz to disconfirm it, but they haven't.
If Spyro 4 doesn't show up by 2023 for instance, all that would indicate is that it would be in development for at least 3 years at that point.
I'm confused as well. the devs know we want Spyro 4 & its existence 1st got leaked 26 months ago. Hopefully we're going to get 4-5 years worth of nonstop Spyro games like we did with Crash. Either that or they're going for quality over quantity. I.e something that makes Crash 4 look like ETD in terms of quality by comparison.
it's also possible that the long dev time of Spyro 4 is because it could be something so unexpected, ambitious & unbelievable [eg a BOTW style open world game and/or a TLOS remake/4th entry] that Activison doesn't want any info given away too early.
Stewart Copeland announced on Twitter that the Spyro Soundtrack release was delayed to May 4th for a reason he isn't telling us. It's real & the magnitude of the delay combined with the lack of clarification indicates he most likely knows something about Spyro 4. Time has shown that it wasn't an April fools prank, although it was daft to make the original soundtrack release date April 1st .
all because companies need to pander to the japanese markets only
@@iluvyurbles What are you talking about? That's only 1 market out of many.
@@maxkozak9702 right now, look at gaming and hollywood they're pandering to China and Japan, go as far to even edit scenes so it can be marketed to china
I wasn’t expecting that brazilian shoutout but it’s true. I bet that the reason is because piracy here was extremely common with the PS1 and even more with the PS2. You could literally get a game for like a dollar on the streets and they were even more common than official copies. Because of that pretty much everyone played these games.
Spyro has a lot of potential, but it needs more work, crash has more of a defined identity, Spyro was kind of a mess