Luník 9, the biggest Roma slum in Europe
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2020
- A short documentary about Luník IX, a neighbourhood in the city of Košice, Slovakia. Here is located the largest community of Romani people in Slovakia, and maybe in Europe. The Roma people in Lunik 9 is living in very precarious conditions, and are distinguished by a very high birth and death rates, and an very high unemployment. Some residents seem to get rid of their garbage by throwing it out from the balcony, and the condition of some of the buildings is very bad, and their stability is compromised.
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Restless Natives by Doug Maxwell/Media Right Productions, from CZcams Audio Library
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gypsys are often discriminated in various european countries, however, it is also a fact that they refuse to integrate into society. They could get a job in a factory or as farm helpers, but most of them simply dont want to work and prefer government benefits being paid to them. They have a different mindset.
They hate work more than the devil the holy water
you said it perfectly. every time i say this to someone i get called a “racist”
@@ilsantosimontemplar5649 of course priests work. They do a lot of social work for people
It’s not a mindset. It’s called being a social parasite.
gypsies*
Being not educated is one thing destroying where u live and throwing garbage out ur window is disgusting NO NEED FOR THAT!!!!!
Racist
They could have planted onions and tomatoes
They are unable of creating anything.
I used to have some Roma kids in class I taught in Poland. The girls would just skip school all the time. Once investigated, one of the mums said that they don't want their 13 and older girls going to school in fear of Roma men. According to them these children were in position to be forced into marriage through abduction and rape.
Not sure what education and forced marriage have to do with each other. I would think these terms are quite opposite.
It is the same in Slovenia.
It's the men ruining it for all of them.
That's their "culture" alright. Look what Aztecs achieved nearly a millennium ago. Look how today, the Western Civilization is colonizing space and sequencing DNA. The conclusion is very easy to draw.
Schools, "education" , is away from home. Away from home is more dangerous than at home. They don't want to up the chance of their child being kidnapped on their way to or at school. This makes education and forced marriage end up in the same conversation.
This is far from the biggest roma slum in Europe. In comparison, the actual biggest roma slum is called Stolipinovo and is in Plovdiv, Bulgaria, with roughly 80 000 people living there.
Just check Šutka, Skoplje..
@@dadancigan513 ive heard of it, still nowhere near the side and population of Stolipinovo
Population of Šutka 16000, Stolipinovo 20000. Talking about Gypsies not the others. Šutka is the only municipality in the world where the roman language is official.
@@dadancigan513 12 000
@@dadancigan513 Според преброяването от 2002 година Шуто Оризари има 15 353 жители.
If anyone thinks that culture doesn't play a factor in this horrific living situation, you're deeply mistaken.
What exactly are you tryna say culture has nothing to do with it😂
sir, you are mistaken.
Who else is here because of "mr. bald" ?
Same
Me too
Me
I search for it in you tube after watching Mr. Bald's video.
i'm here because of jamaican youtuber Andre
I have nevr seen anything like that and I am from a poor country. WTF is that?! Why are they living like this, this is madness.
@@rockapartie i find it genuinly weird, they litteraly destroy their living conditions then complain
litter-aly
Living under poverty is one thing but why so lazy ???They can’t work together to clean up those place??Disgusting
It's a question of mentality.Those people have no will to do anything with their lives. They have lived like this for centuries and no one is able to change it.
You should read the girl from no where. They don't have garbage men, where would you like to put it all ? No one is coming to get it ... they will run out of room eventually...This is comment coming from someone clearly coming from privilege
@@taylornicole7845 Oh please go watch a documentary on Marxloh Germany. Hundreds of Roma were given apartments there and told how waste disposal and Germany society works, they still throw dirty diapers and food waste out of the window. The whole area now is completely rat-infested.
@@taylornicole7845 they do actually... the mess was cleaned up multiple times over the years but they trashed it again
@Alexander Morrison It's the same where I used to live (Germany).
The owner of the building cleans it every month. Everything (Heating, plumbing, electricity, even childcare) is always kept in perfect order where possible.
And still the place looks like a landfill after another month. It's not external factors that do this. It's the people.
Thank you so much for sharing * sending best & well wishes from Scotland
This is why aliens won't contact us.
Zero work ethic and total laziness...
Many people will not hire them because of racism. How can they work without a job? How can they keep office wear looking clean with 2 hours of water a day? It is not as simple as filling out a job application.
@@christeek7466 Maybe if they did not rip out the brand new plumbing pipework and sell it for scrap they would be able to live decently and keep clean.This requires effort and boring old hard work.FACT.
@@christeek7466 go to warehouse you dont Need to look clean to work there
what a beautiful neighborhood!
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I’m from Slovakia but not from lunik 9. I was there and was living there too it was terrible! Every lunik 9 people show off in my school and they wanna fight people who are doing their work and having fun with their friends, while lunik 9 is fighting and showing off but whats the point if only their friends are laughing at their unfunny jokes with swear words but the whole class is trying to work!!! They always act like they the only ones in class and when you sit next to them, they always say just come outside and you will see but no body does anything to Them!!!!!!
Same :((
@@sloweny2086 finally someone who agrees with me Thanks Man Much Love!
Why do they throw their trash out of their windows ??!!
Thankyou for your video. I am doing an essay for university on the topic of Roma people in Slovakia (studying social inequality in Germany). May I ask which source you used for the graph about agegroups? I's very interesting.
i saw this area a few days ago - really shocking - may god have mercy
Why do they want to keep it that dirty? I dont get it
They just dont care 🤷♀️ lived close to them as child
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My Slovakian coworker told me about this. He says its a true ghetto slum
great video
Very good video
I grew up here and it didn't change at all
What? You grew up in Luník 9?
How you get out?
@@Lamebred. airplane
I lived here too
There so many people with british accents there. I feel like if i went to live back in afghansitan with all my cousins in the uk thats how it would be xD.
Go!
00:55 Tabor litterally translates to "camping site" in Hungarian. In 1686 the Roma turned up at a camping site LOL
I can see my old block I grew up here moved out in 2004, from what I can remember my greatest memories are when we lived here
I'd love to hear about some of these memories!
Bangladesh in one of EU states.
You should explore Stolipinovo, Plovdiv, Bulgaria. A lot more dense and crowded gypsy neighborhood that's a total sh&thole like all the rest across Europe.
It's a slum alright. The Roma in the UK think it's perfectly fine to fly tip in the neighbourhood.
omg thank you, finaly somebody actually showed that the government already build houses for them several times and they all end up destroyed always. This is not racial discrimination this is a problem of their own culture and living style
very safe walk in a park compared to real hoods in eastern europe
UNESCO Welterbe Lunik 9 Kosice?
My mom used to say that you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink and you can send a fool to school but you can’t make him think. I don’t think it’s a matter of laziness. I think that these people over the years have been marginalized by being put in a social construct where they cannot assimilate into the society outside of them.
This isn't making much sense and we're taking away accountability
Bologna! They ARE lazy and selfish!
400 years???? 😂😂😂
So primitive
Parties in that area, I saw it on bald
Now i know why they act like this in Page hall
I wonder what these neighborhoods in North Korea would look like (in a parallel reality I mean) ? And there the gypsies would still feel discriminated against?
Imagine!
Shades of public housing in America. Just look at all of the failed housing projects in US, like St. Louis' Pruitt-Igoe.
Exactly what I was thinking down to the actual facility. The precursor to Ferguson and a very good documentary. It amazes me how shockingly similar the statements about the Romani are to what whites in America say.
I felt it too.
I found the part towards the end where they were given those new rounded apartments and in a few years completely trashed them. That is same as American housing projects for the poor. It's a mentality and a mental disease. The mental attitude has to be first be cured. You can have little and still take care of it. But, what is obtained for free, or very little, is rarely appreciated.
It's much worse let's be honest
Beautiful, isnt it?
What do you mean no?
Imagine nation that was kicked even from their own country.
They are NOT a nation.
Lunik ix
Solutions is a one rights for gipsy and other. When You are not gipsy and don't care about your children government get him and give to another parents. Do that with these children.
I agree that this is a solution
Gypsy!
Nechcete tam
Vždy kuknem z diaľky keď idem do optimi :D
It’s ok these people all live in the uk now with benefits up to £26.000 a year whilst British pensioners get less that £3.000 a year. Just saying
Actually that community is still there so they did not all go to the UK.
The French version of Light & Life are 20 times bigger than the UK, having started in 1951, 30 years ahead of the work in the UK.
They both do missionary work across Europe.
Time to call pest control :-)
Bojler eladó
Very beautiful place.Heh heh..
Roma are a nomadic people
Yes they used to be nomadic, and now is hard for them to adapt to a life living in a block of flats.
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How can they live in literal filth? Subhuman
Gypsy
If, from the moment he or she is born, a child is told by almost an entire society that they are lazy, stupid, dirty and useless, they will for the most part oblige in being exactly that. Only extraordinary people could not fall victim to this treatment. You can educate people all you like but if a society still vilifies them, it won’t do any good. I know that this is a very complicated issue, with poor behaviour on all sides, but what will be done to address the poor behaviour of the society that was partially responsible for this issue in the first place?
ellen briggs So the Slovak state and Slovak society is entirely blameless for this situation in your eyes?
Scott Lafferty, I completely agree. I've been living in Slovakia for 11 years and the problem is the same as it was when I arrived. Slovaks won't take any responsibility. It's far easier to demonize the weakest members of society. That seems to be true everywhere. The powerful majority can sit and feel superior while benefitting from the accrued wealth and privilege created by past generations. I can't imagine starting life in those conditions. You're right that even the most exceptional would struggle and likely fail
@@jeremyhill927 Why the Slovaks should do something about them? Why other minorities from asia can integrate with easy? Its the same in Bulgaria, Vietnamese and Chinese work hard and don't do crimes.
@@shapermechanist Perhaps I was speaking too broadly to say Slovaks won't help. A great many have helped and the Roma after all are Slovak as well. I made the mistake of overgeneralizing as an emotional reaction to a complex issue. It comes from a place of deep sympathy for their plight. I believe you are making an overgeneralization in saying that these immigrant groups do not cause mischief or commit crimes. They do and are ultimately sent home. I have seen it first hand. All of the Slovaks I met in America stole and lived illegally in the country. Does it mean that all of these people are terrible and hopeless? Of course not. However all of these groups including the Roma and Slovaks living abroad are vilified. People make mistakes, but when we feel welcome and supported, we do our best. Slovakia will be a more just and prosperous country when the weakest members are cared for as fairly as those in high places. It is simply the right thing to do.
@@scottlafferty6448 yes
Birth Control! 🙄
And education - but most of them are stubborn ....
Sad and in humane to treat people like this.
"Diversity" is strength. ;)
Beautiful, wonderful multiculturalism in real life.
not the biggest roma slum in europe
the biggest slum is in skopje mecedonia is called shutka
Is that place really a slum? They seem to be better integrated in Skoplje.
@@swazzercool9060 no shutka is not a slum is a district. and its cleaner and
not so criminal . you can go there without any trouble the people there are nice.
@@kenankenan7460 So then how can it be the biggest slum if it isn't a slum
This is also not the biggest slum, with its 15 000 people. Stolipinovo is the largest slum on the Balkans and it seems like its non existent and forever forgotten. Its population is 80 000 in comparison.
They have good music
this is future of EU
Not the biggest city but ok
Lol then what is the biggest Roma slum, smart guy
@@Souperfro ur mom
@@Souperfro I think the biggest gypsie slum in Euripe is Shuto Orizari near Skopje, North Macedonia. Around 30.000 gypsies live there!
Автор этого видео!!! Изучи историю пожалуйста, Цыгане по вере исповедания Христиани, сами они выходцы из Индии и не чего общего с Исламом у них нет!!!!
Viva vivesto Romasinti
and how to see INDIA that has moved to romania, they also have a resemblance in the skin, eyes, Romania is the only nation in eastern europe to have dark complexion, based on where the nation is located they should be very white and hair blonde
? Romanians compared to other Balkan nations are similar. They look similar to Bosnians, Croatians, south Ukrainians, Bulgarians etc. look at people from maramures or Moldova which is a Romanian country and a large percentage have blonde hair and blue eyes. Can you show me proof Romanians are darker than their neighbors and I mean ethnic Romanians not the Jews or gypsies of the country. For example there’s more light eye color in Romania than Serbia or Bulgaria and Greece however less than Ukraine, it’s all relatice
Indeed! There is a very old story in the vedas, an indian king in some region dit a big sin and some mighty person cursed this whole kingdom. This cursed kingdom will walk through the world as poor people, without any good behavior. They don't know any work, just beg and cheating. The curse will vanish when this universe comes to an end. The people from the kingdom are these gypsies.
Lazy people don’t care how they live
We didn't have job in slovakia or Czech Republic so how come we make the house clean g
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Eastern Europe, including Romania, Albania, Ukraine, Moldova Hungary, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Yugoslavia, Montenegro, Georgia,
it is like visiting nations at war and with the nations Europe seems to be 30 years away, we still live with a horse, there is no safeguarding of children and women, nothing just anarchy ... like living wild weast
nah i live in serbia and it's nothing like that. there's no point in generalizing poor places with the rest of the country
Italy as well.
event 201
agenda 2030
doesnt seem such a bad idea after seeing this.
anyone??
The problem is racism not laziness. I can clearly see it in peoples comments. Now some will say we have the same thing in America. That is absolutely true. There are several videos on CZcams that are very much like this. The high rise slums failed in America too. You can not concentrate poor people like this. They have no role models, no good examples, no safe places for kids to play and terrible schools.
You know nothing about it. The houses you see got gypsies completely free. They were houses in an area that was one of the most beautiful in the city and they destroyed it all themselves. They could have easily integrated into society, and some did, but not the people of Lunik 9. I know this is incomprehensible to some, but under communism, every gypsy had a job and had to work, and the salaries were the same for both the gypsy and the white. Anyone who was interested at that time could study and know a lot of gypsies who used it and live normally. However, the gypsies from the settlements and the ghetto like Lunik 9 did not want to work but lived from social crowds. They just got used to working and learned to live from support. They don't clean the area around their houses, but they expect someone to do it for them, as the city has done a few times.
@@peterjobovic3406 exactly what a lot of white Americans say about blacks or Hispanics or anyone not white (truth is poor whites are pretty much the same). Why concentrate poor people? It always fails regardless of what race the poor are.
@@ilivedbeforethefall2330 have you ever lived next to romani people? Have you ever been at the school with them?
@@nadyakrempicka7125 what difference does that make. Apparently none. The comments are the same as I hear in America about people of color. Self fulfilling prophecy. It's been the same throughout human history and all over the planet. Times change, but people do not.
@@ilivedbeforethefall2330 if you live in an eastern part of slovakia already you are already super poor and angry about the government and then there is a certain group of people, it doesn't matter if they are white or whatever race, and they keep harassing you, stealing your potatoes, having fights on your street, littering etc of course you would start having certain prejudices or stereotypes about them. If you live in Bratislava where you rarely experience such a behaviour you dont have that stereotypes and look at the issue from a different angle which is of course a long term more progressive solution. I think the right thing is to have little a bit more critical thinking and also consider people who may not have the right opinions but they are still people and bring them to the discussions and not just label them aaah they are racists...
People hate Roma. But they are the most prosecuted people. I feel sad that this people are treated like this .
They're treated like any others slovak citizens maybe better(they recieved new houses for free) it's their choice to live like that...
@@danielklimek6320 you are lying.
They have turned out like this because they have been deprived from many resources for many many years.
@@danielklimek6320 -
Liar
Daniel klimek is right. Units were given them for free. In short time they managed to destroy it. Taking of bath tubes, electric stoves, toil ets, doors, windows. Shitting out off windows. Throwing trash from windows. City Council did clean up. Many times.
They had free kindergarten with food and clothes and bedding. Every month free from council (in Moldava nad Bodvou - I don't know if same in Kosice) they hygiene products, washing powders. They have children payment from government which is not small because they have plenty children
But there are also decent Roma who are working and have pretty units and houses. But they don't live at Lunk 9.
Dont tell me they didn't have support and opportunities.
Lunik 9 is their choise how to live. Don't blame sociaty!
You would not feel that If they were your neighbours.its easy to Pity someone from thousands of km away
And now you know why we got rid of Slovakia in 1993. They wanted freedom from our "oppression"? We let them go. The EU accepted them in their loving Schengen arms and in 2008 they accepted the Euro as their Lord and Saviour. This is the result.
What?
Russia is a slum
Souhlas
Look how europa country and governments treat romani people!!!
Very bad, they accommodate them for free, they stuff them with money, and if they destroy the house, the other people have to pay for it again.
Government gives them new apartments and they trash it. Utterly disgusting.
Gypsie culture is the reason they live like this.
@@smoker9275 I take care of myself, but I also have to go to work around the windows of houses in the center at 4-5 in the morning, where those who have the right skin still have a party, which I also have to take care of from the work from which I pay for them. Not to mention how much they can destroy in 30-40 years of living in historic houses...
good
Yup slovkia
0:57 piękne zdjęcia jak na rok 1686....
@/missingdenisepipitone