Penn Slammer 3 vs Shimano Saragosa SW Who makes the best Surf Jetty Pier Boat spinning reel? Sealed
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- Who makes the best Surf Jetty Beach Boat Pier reel?
Who makes the best Zeebass or Vanstall alternative?
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Pretty much the only 1hr long video from CZcams that i would watch
Foolish.
Prob the absolute best side by side comparison of any product I’ve had the pleasure of watching. YOU my friend are good.
I now have two very full seasons of fishing on my Slammers on Jetty, CCC, Surf and Boat: 4500, 5500 and 6500HS. They've been dunked, splashed, soaked, dropped in the sand and on the jetties and with minimal maintenance have had no problems. Perfect. I can't speak for the 'gosa, which I'm sure is a good reel as well, but as for the Slammers, they are butter-smooth tanks. Love the drags as well(I've avoided coffee grounds)
Great review, I will be adding a slammer 3 to my arsenals.
Hey man - you put out some great videos. It's nice to just get honest information about all kinds of different products from someone without a bias. Will certainly look to your videos when spending big money on gear. So much to be learned from these videos.....just great.
Thank you I love the way you break down the whole reel It’s definitely made my decision that much easier it doesn’t say who is doing the commentary or at least I didn’t see it what a great job of explaining and analyzing
much thanks for this comparison review I've always wondered which was the better reel.
High quality video, really broke the ice on choosing or making choices between high end grinders.
Thank you.
I've had the Penn slammer 3 5500 for at least a year and I've used it in the surf it's been banged on rocks, fallen in sand. All I do is wash the reel to remove loose sand and continue to fish. I've never opened the reel for maintenance because it is still as smooth as when I first got it.
Yeah those Made in China Penn are no joke
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China is no joke nowadays 😂😂.... for more information, ask your President
@@pascha9993 shots fired 😳🤣
You make the best fishing reel videos! Keep them coming.
I have watched so many of your videos man. You put so much effort into this channel and provide such comprehensive content. thanks buddy, keep it up.
But none of it is actually relevant.
For example, ALL reel designers choose to make a sound emitting from the object.
Not once do you reference the sound.
The user IS concerned with sound.
Feel is also extremely important.
Designs can be futuristic. You're Supposed to grow into the product.
Clearly you're uneducated and unwise. Nowonder you're antisocial.
As always a great review! A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday afternoon.
Can not wait to see a comparison between the Authority and the Stella
Incredible review!!!! Thank you for taking the time. I own both htese reels and fish them from boats and surf. Fantastic.
You have the most thorough and detailed reel review vids on CZcams. Awesome work 👍👍
you are the best guy who I found doing the exact comparison "head to head" by far the best...
If I will have tipple like I will do it for you... I do appreciate the work you do for us...
My husband bought it for me after our fishing trip. Great action! So smooth it's like reeling over silk! Absolutely LOVE it!
I have 30 trips over last year from boat and beach on SL3 4500 almost 200 hours. Just a spray rinse after and oiled a couple times. Has been dunked has been sanded. Performs better than new. Definitely do not notice back slap. Also can pickup on Amazon or eBay at $180. or less if you are patient. One of the best value reels I have bought. Great review. It influenced my initial purchase decision
Ty very much for the comparison, it's exactly what I needed to watch!
Welcome back buddy! Also congrats on the 10,000 subs!! Time to start making some more chedda!
I have to tell you... I feel you have the most informative channel. I appreciate the way you explain the differences between the reels. Very easy to understand! You helped me make one of my better purchases, the TRNX 401. Fantastic reel for big snook In Florida. I just want to tell you, thank you.
Hey Ed. Thanks brotha! I hope it treats you well! I've received tons of feedback since putting out those big low pro vids. And haters aside... The overwhelming majority was positive. A couple water intrusion issues but that's pretty much it. Best of luck with it
got to say your analysis is pretty damn thorough. bravo. makes me feel more confident about my 8k gossa. youve got a new subscriber. keep up the good work
Thanks Salty! Glad you got something out of it. Gosa is a tank..I can't wait to see what the next gen brings.
I use to watch for info now I watch because I still can't believe some one is able to undo and remount the whole reel. Well done
Thank you very much I really like your content I appreciate it your breakdown is very thorough
Great job scoob.
Sorry for your loss
Keep up the good work.
Hey Mike, Thanks man..been an interesting month for sure...Appreciate it!
Thanks for the great review. Best review on these reels that I've seen.
You my friend should be hired by the top reel companies. Very well detailed with components most normal anglers won't be digging to find out how they work. Hats off sir and keep doing what you do. God bless
Thanks brotha!
Companies don't want to make a reel that's too good. Planned obsolescence.
true story
I recently purchased a penn slammer 3 5500 and man i love it. I matched it with a tsunami elite airwave 11'-0" surf rod for now and it feels so balanced. My son and girlfriends son and I are going to fish hu tington beach state park jetties and surf second week in September and i hope to get another one but a 4500 on a 8'-0" popper stylre rod to thru some biv plugs for red fish and anything else that comes along. I think when i find the right 8 foot rod the 5500 will go on it and the 4500 will be on the tsunami. Thanks for the break down on the reals. I looked at diawa bg and i love shimano. But penn has always been good to me i still have all the penns ive ever bought.
Great video and very informative information about what makes a good fishing reel.
i just got a slammer 3 for 148 on amazon. was going to get the jdm theory off of j and h cause i saw that one video you posted and looks like such a good reel, maybe whenever i get back from my florida trip ill get another combo and add that to the lineup :)
The almighty Scoob is back with another great review! You know your stuff and I've made several purchases based on your reviews. Thanks for all the great info! My 6k and 10k Gosa is still going strong as ever. Still plan on getting a slammer 3 though just to mix it up. I love the handle on em. I am really impressed with my Ballistic LT 6K also several big Tarpon on it and still butter smooth. We'll see how it is at the end of the fall after a few dozen really big fish.
Penn has really stepped up their game over the last few years.
I use the Slammer III 4500 for snook fishing where I would usually use a reel at least one size up(4500 etc.) It's the truly waterproof and that amazing drag that sold me;
3500, 4500, 6500 and a 8500.
And I used to be a die hard Shimano reel fan too.
Also the new Clash series are great Inshore reels.
Star Seagis or custom made rods...
And I work part time at Bass Pro Shop, Daytona Beach and have many other reels to choose from with my employee discount. BPS brand products, I get a 47% discount on BPS made products. So you know where my paycheck goes lmao!
Are the 3500 and 4500 technically the same size? Just the 4500 has more line capacity?
Your intros are comedic gold!
Fer reel? I thought I phoned this one in .....back was hurtin too much to sit at the bench..lol
Dude you’re the G.O.A.T of reels
Do you know if this is Alan Hawk ? Every place I go someone has mentioned that name this guy is brilliant
@@kevinturpin7937 He isn’t, but he’s very similar in knowledge on reels and their mechanics. I always go to TA’s videos before purchasing a new reel.
Thank you for the video I have been wavering back and forth as to which one to buy for a cobia pitch rod.
Great discussion here, thanks. I got myself that 2500 LL. I really like the reel, overall but I can't get over the spool sitting on such a tiny "shelf" washer on the shaft--as you said, all that pressure has to pile up right there, narrowly. I minor problem I'll say Penn overlooked was the angle of the line roller to the spool of line, particularly when full. It pays off off the spool at an angle wider than the line roller is angled for, so it runs tight against the sharper edge of the roller just before it guides on to it. No likey! That could feasibly fray line or rumple it. My reel lays line biased on the lower part of the spool, even after removing the most shims possible and reeling in tightly. My 2500LL's drag locks DOWN. The only way to take adavantage of that degree of drag would be 60lb braid on a Tuna stick, which means getting spooled after 30 seconds of Blue Fin fury since you haven't the yardage to give it. Impractical as that all seems, it's nice knowing it's there!
I have four Slammers and a high speed Slammer III 8500. Absolutely great reels. Those drags wow! Thanks Penn!
Unbelievable power! Definitely getting the 10500
I’m glad u brought up TwinPower, I was really thinking about getting one. Could u possibly do a video on it please. Tyvm new subscriber.
I know it's a year later...but working on one with the tp sw 14k now
nice review. I have an older Saragosa and love it.
Sir Scoob has risen to speak from the depths below!!! Absolutely incredible comparison I’ll be testing the Gossa on some big boy reds and Snook
Thanks Buddy!!! Appreciate it! Sounds like the right tool for the job. I had a few 10k sw's when they first came out....sold em off after using only one since they collected dust as backups to 08 stella sw's one of the most durable reels out there!
Tackle Advisors do you still plan on doing the no bobbing Pr knot that’s going to be so interesting to see but I still love the FG
Love my slammer 3 and carnage two combo. Had it for 1 year
Thank you, very informative !!!! Well done !
Also consider when you crank the reel, the main gear will push the pinion forward off of that little base. Plus the shaft should keep the pinion aligned along with the 2 main bearings.
As usual, superb content 😍😍😍
Thanks man!
Tackle Advisors thanks too 👍👍👍
Also really like my Clash II reels too!
Watched the whole video! Great attention to detail. Looks like both are solid designs but the Saragosa is more waterproof. Also I do love the looks of the Saragosa plus have read elsewhere that their warranty is solid. There are guys out there that have messed their Saragosa reels and Shimano sends them a brand new reel. Conclusion, purchased a Saragosa for my first nice reel!
What size you get mate? What are you targeting?
@@MrMolderone I got a 6000 for surf fishing in the East coast of Florida, USA. We get Kingfish, Pompano, Redfish, Jack, etc.
At 48 I'm just getting into fishing and I'm some what over whelmed by the complexity of it all so I've been trying to study on CZcams and forums and I stumbled across this video... Man steep curve 😂 I've now subbed as your video was very impressive. Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Hey Jimmy... You're doing it right. The forums are a wealth of knowledge. I post on Stripersonline.Com as Scoobydoo (and other forums as well) glad you were able to get somethin out of it. You're welcome
@@TackleAdvisors cheers scoobs... Just joined the forum you linked, I'm 40jack. 👍🍺
It can be as simple or complicated as you want. Pickup a cheap combo with good line and you’ll be fine for awhile
@@0riginall337 thanks Lee, I'm in a really tight budget at the moment but want the best chance of catching a fish man. Its just trying to see the wood for the trees.
I fished a slammer III 5500 really hard for an entire season (extended dunking on almost every trip, and was cranked underwater on multiple occasions) and had zero issues. I would get home and open it up expecting to find water and would find nothing. Great reel, just with there was a bailess version.
Been fishing my spinfisher v s for a year or 2 now and they are still going strong even tho they have been splashed or even fully underwater almost every trip.
Just subscribed a couple of days ago. I love your videos. Very thorough and easily under stood. I would love to see a test on the new Okuma Alijos 2 speed lever drag reels. Keep up the good work. No one better than you on what you do!
Interestingly I now own a Saragosa, Slammer III and a Daiwa Saltist. Different sizes slightly but similar.For what it’s worth I’ll be selling the Saltist and Saragosa and purchasing another Slammer III in the 3500 size or 4500 size. I’ve owned a lot of reels in my life and I’ve never been in love with the Penn spinning reels but the Slammer III is the best $250-$280 reel ever made to me. I personally think it’s a better boat reel by a long ways compared to the others. I’m not a surf fisherman so I can’t comment but the Slammer III for my style of fishing is amazing.
I can't pick! I'll buy both!
Awesome review as always. I am interested to see what you think of long range reels like a Shimano Ultegra XTD?
I second this. I have those and the Saragosas.
honestly man lots of people hate penn, i can kinda see why, but the slammer is a amazing reel. you gotta give credit when credits due. great vid.
Yeah....spot on.....I wanted to hate this reel because it's an easy target....but it's a damn fine reel.....quality control aside......its a reel priced right and built like a tank...and they swapped out the reel after the bearing failed so their support after the sale is great too!
I bought most of my Penn’s at Efingers back in the day. Jack was a good guy.
Didn't jack become a Jill?
If I may clarify: At 50:40, you mention the rotor play as being related to the ratio. I'm quite sure that the play comes NOT from the space between the gear teeth (which makes the gear ratio a non-factor) but has all to do with the amount of rotor travel required to actuate enough resistance from the anti-reverse mechanism. So, the handle is not an accomplice. You'd be right about the "six times more play in the rotor than the handle" IF the anti-reverse were under the main gear whereby the rotor's reversal rotation is transfering torque from the pinion to the main gear, THEN you'd get that sort of play, which was true back in the Z-days and lighter SS models of yore. But since the anti-reverse is at the pinion gear, the main-gear-to-handle train bears no guilt in crimes of the un-reel. I appreciate your deep dive with the mechanics/materials. I've been fixing reels since I'm 9 years old and still can't overcome it. Any tips? :)
I don’t have a slammer but I do have a 2 spinnfisher v one Is a LL they do start slugish but but as you put more time they do get smoother
I bought the gosa 6000 put 30lb braid caught a couple 6 ft sharks on it from breakwall ( casting retrieving big baits) 2 weeks of use ! Now I can feel the gears ⚙️ working when I wind it , still very smooth. Getting the slammer 3 8500 for this type of fishing, going to use the gosa for lure fishing only 👌 . That’s my experience anyway hope it helps🙃
this 1 is a very close call both great reels... I think it's all personal preference on these 2. Thanks for this and the video comparison on the daiwa saltist vs slammer 3. I'm a penn guy so I love my slammer, even more now that u have a few videos actually likeing it lol. I'm very impressed with the inner workings of this reel. Especially for the price! Side note that the penn slammer 3 does come with the same knob in eva foam, so no worries In the winter, even tho florida doesn't have much if a winter😆
I really like my slammer III's. I have 4500, 5500, 6500 and 8500. Drags are just bad ass. Never had any issues with line lay or internal grinding under pressure...
And i clean them after every use so sand is never an issue. Goosa's are fine reels as well i just prefer penn...
I have a L
how much is the size difference between the 4500 and 5500? the 4500 to me looks like almost the same size as the 5500...just a little bit smaller overall.
Great comparison, wish we also covered (three way comparison) the Daiwa BG lines
Awesome video. I had written off the Slammer before the upgrades but you made me rethink the Saragosa. But wait, what about the Slammer 3 HS version? How does that compare?
Own both gosa 6000 sw and slammer 3 4500. Gosa hands down for me a much better surf reel. Effortless cranking in big tins and fish. Slammer is smooth under zero load. Cranking in big tin or fish requires much more effort and has a slight coffee grinder thing going on. Gosa upgrades...got rid of the factory egg handle knob and swapped out with sustain 10000 circular Eva knob, saving over an oz..and solves for the odd oem egg knob. Also, swapped out factory grease after first season with corrossion x grease and oil., Slammer pluses...looks better, higher lock down drag, and has great line lay.
ed l you are comparing orange to apples, get a slammer 5500 or 6500 the 3500 is to small if you are comparing it to the gosa 6000 sw.
Awesome review as usual. When can we expect the Bantam MGL tear down? :)
Thanks man!!! It will be a few weeks at the earliest....I don't want to jump the gun..but so far it's excellent. One of my favorite reels..I like it over the metanium DC
Hey man, great video as usual. Can you do offshore / surf rod? what brands worth to look at.
flopsy3333 shimano tiralejo and penn carnage ii rods are pretty good for surf
Have a saragossa 6000 and 8000, I really am losing faith in penn their reels last a while but they are never buttery like the shimanos, line lay is wackadoodle, and I always get wind knots. I wish shimano put a deeper arbor on the saragossa because it just does not have enough line to back up its beefiness. I’d go with shimano they are just better quality and you dont need to worry about getting a “bad batch” like the penns.
Great review!
I have Saragosa 8000, and i hear the "knock" every time the spool is going up and down. Is it normal for Saragosa?
Ty :)
Hey man I’m really interested in what you said about greasing the roller bearings !! I have always used crc spray after wash down ! But what I think your saying is grease it heavily and leave it ?? Please just let me know what’s best because I would rather just grease all my line roller bearings on all reels and leave them for longer periods and no crc !?
I am happy with my three slammer 3 and
Three Saragosa reels.
Hi Tackle Advisor. Can you review the Quantum Cabo's - some people say they are great and others say not. Would be good to see one of your in depth reviews against the Saragosa or similar. Thanks. Tom
First of all, great, in-depth video comparison!
Yesterday I was talking with a guy at my local B&T shop who was annoyed that he couldn't get his beloved 7 year old Shimano repaired because Shimano no longer has parts for it. He bought a Penn Slammer instead. This was not surprising to hear about Shimano -- they do the same with their cycling parts. I guess that is what they refer to as planned obsolesce. Shimano makes some really good stuff, but they're constantly changing things. There is certainly something to be be said about change for improvement, but I think Shimano changes just to change -- and then they market that small change as a huge improvement that you can't live without. I have both Shimano and Penn reels. In this case, I opted to go with the Slammer for surf fishing because it is a very competent reel and I want to be able to fix and service my reel should southing go wrong a few years from now.
We use this reels exclusively for jigging here in Cebu Philippines. I use a slammer 4500 and my friend uses a gossa 8k. I pulled a 58lbs king mac using a 20lb jbraid w/ a 30lbs florou leader on my slammer and the drag was phenomenal. My only issue with the slammer is its cranking power but overall i love it. Still smooth as the day i bought it, no it’s actually more smoother now even after a year and a half of jigging , 16hrs a week for more than a year and still no issues its a tank🤣🤣🤣.
Dude I visit the Phil's quite often (pre-pandemic), would love to go fishing with you guys my next visit if possible
Hello Tackle Advisor, I'm looking to get a new reel for my St. Croix Triumph 10'6" 2-6oz for chunking bait for stripers and blues here on the east coast. Which reel and size would you choose between the Saragosa, Slammer 3 and Spin Fisher VI?
Would the new Spinfisher LC hold up to 4-5oz weight being thrown?
Do you have a buying guide for top of the line spinning reels? Looking into buying a penn torque 2 but can’t find any review/comparison with competitors.
Wich best the new reel saltwater between the shimano takota 24 max drag and penn fathom 30 max drag can you recommend with me wich best thanks 🙏
I have an Issue and hope you can help. My saragosa 6k sw has always had a issue with line lay out of the box. I've changed the shims and still can't find the perfect amount of shims for it.
Hey bud I may have missed it but did you mention the size of these two reels you were comparing?
Thanks.
Keep up the great work!!! Sorry to here about your friend.
I have battle 2 4000, spinfisher v 5500 and penn 105 vintage never been service for almost a decade . I abused it and sometimes forgot to wash with fresh water and still smooth like new
Hi, I'm choosing reel for inshore spinning and rock fishing. Most of the time will be working with around up to 2oz stickbaits and jigs. Currently considering shimano saragosa 5000sw and biomaster 5000sw. What would you suggest ovee those two reels? I know biomaster is alot lighter but is it as rigid as saragosa?
Right on time.
When should I consider changing the main shaft seal?
Saragosa 8,000 put a 10,000 spool on it..pack it with hmp teflon grease..
Nice for surface lures poppers etc
Slammer 3 does also ship with an EVA handle! I switch out to that in the winter months!
What’s a EVA handle
Penn and shimano should just make a reel together
What is that setup you’re fishing when you show your friend fishing the slammer looks like a Leica just curious about the rod reel line weight and what not
I like the slammer it looks smaller more compact than the shimano. I like the use of titanium and brass on key areas.
In the end, it's preference. I have little to no knowledge about saltwater fishing and only get to do it when I'm either in Greece or when the time comes and I'll be able to go to Sweden or Norway (European dude). So, even as a Shimano fan, the next bigger salt-proofish reel I might well get will be the Penn. Feels really comfortable to me looking at the knob too and since I can definitely run into AJs in my favorite area in Greece, that's reason enough to me. Since I lost legit all of them so far.
Also, what I was wondering - you talk about your hands being not too big, so how big are they? Mine are about 9in long and not particularly wide and never had issues with big knobs at all.
Are you able to tell us the the thickness of the braid (diameter in mm ) for the line capacity ?
Great content. I wonder if Ave copies your phrases in his boltr videos or if it’s the other way around.
He's awesome and we think quite a like...I've heard him use a few sayings that i've used over the years......I haven't watched him in awhile and popped him on the other day and heard him use one of my favorites.....get two birds stoned with one bush......
You should always manually close the bail on all spinning reels...
I have bought both but I am worrying about that pinion support. I am a motorcycle technician and that slammer III system makes me feel sick. Is the larger slammer 10500/9500 heaps better?
Do you think the gosa or the slammer would be a better surf reel and what size would you recommend for surf, thinking about getting the saragosa 6000 but not sure if it will be good enough for surf fishing. Thanks
I have both slammer 3 is amazing>
My Slammer 3 6500 laid line crooked. I had to change the bushings to the thinner ones that came in the box. After I did that, it was just as nice as your reel. But I love the look of this reel. I wouldn't mind the shimano, but it's not as striking... Get it? lol
Once the penn SVI releases can you please compare with gosa and slammer .Planning to get a couple of reels quite undecided at the moment
I like your videos very much. I will like to you make a review on the Penn SS 750. For me one of the best reels of all times. Thank
Could we get a penn torque 2 review or slammer comparison?
Excellent review like allways i just feel shamono s over priced. And i still feel there is a reel out there. Thats better more affordable.
Penn Slammer III
Sizes 3500-5500 have automatic bail trip
Sizes 6500-10500 have manual bail trip
@the truth automatic means when u crank the handle an open bail will close. Manual means u have to flip an open bail closed by hand. An automatic bail can accidentally trip in the middle of your cast and u lose an expensive lure.
Just do the automatic delete.
Honestly, I have never had any problem with any penn reel. I have always done a proper PM to them. If you always maintain the reels, you shouldn’t have any problem.