Hi thamks for all your videos I'm learning a lot. I have one question on Stop loss. If i have a x10 leverage on say a commodity and i put in a stop loss of say e100. Will i lose x10 the stop loss (ie e100 x10= e1000) or just the e100 i put as the stop loss ❓Thank you 🙏
Just the stop loss :) Unless there's an anomalous situation like a 'gap down' where it blows past your stop loss... But yeah, the stop loss sets the max you want to lose. Leverage just makes you reach that stop loss quicker.
Do you know if there is an option for PI's to set their own maximum AUM? Because I can definitely understand how getting more and more copiers can cause stress on some people.
That's a really good point... As far as I'm aware, no, there's no way for a PI to set that manually. I guess the trick must be to forget about the AUM and just trade your own portfolio as though that's all there is. Easier said than done... Maybe time and experience is the only way to get comfortable - not sure.
I feel like Celesh is going through the same situation as Izabee, but handeling it way more poorly. He's probably affected by the pressure of the amount of copiers he has. But where Izabee took responsibility. He's choosing to ignore it.
Yeah, she really did just go straight to the heart of the problem eh... He did do a post about his recent trading performance a couple of weeks ago, so he was trying to be open, but then the adding money and stats change thing really muddied the waters there. Hopefully he'll find his way through.
No matter why it happened, I’d understand it though. It’s just the not knowing which has stopped me in my tracks - I talk about stats so much that when they seem to change like that, it means I can’t really talk about them properly until i know why…
How could I be sure of that? Ah, you mean the one without traders in the portfolio. True, I could look at them, but I was so pleased to find the traders I’m copying that I want to give them the chance to see what they can do still.
@@SocialTrading fair enough! with your other question - i'd probably add in Zech as China stocks have been down for awhile (though never know how it's going to play out)
Hey there - yep, you can. You can see when you started copying them whilst you're still copying them - just click on their name in your portfolio and you can see when you started the copy on the top left. Once you've stopped the copy, you can go into your history, set the timeframe to the max - 1 year, and provided you started copying them within a year, you can scroll back and back (have to do it manually unfortunately) and you can see when you started copying them. It takes time to scroll back and back through all the trades which is annoying, and if it was more than a year ago that you started copying them, then I'm not sure how you can see it (maybe in the 'account statement'?)
I found it a bit confusing when I considered copying celesh as his profile says minimum copy amout is $400 and I eventually copied him but with $200 which wasn't making sense and at least was confusing. Wasnt sure if I get full benefits of his profits with $200 if he said minimum $400.
You can work that out by looking in his own portfolio and see what his smallest position sizes are. Then work out how much you copied him with and see if that percentage of your money would still be above the $1 minimum copies trade size (as long as it’s still $1…)
Its interesting. In a bad market if a trader is down bad he has two choices 1) increase risk and get it back. Investors dont redeem 2) behave correctly. Get redeemed anyway Most go route 1 since 2 doesnt provide any benefit
@@SocialTrading yes in eToro context they stop copying In tradfi, your boss stops giving you so much to trade or investors ask for their money back ("redeem")
For me one of the worst thing i seen was with Shereen Ashraf. She was doing ok and in profit but than i seen she was in profit 26$ and had comitions of -21$. I don't know what was happening there but i imidiatly uncopied. The comitions was almost the same as earnings...
People pretending and trying and lieing to take my identity and get the money and the credits from my efforts and my own existence, plus hacking uncountable money from not just Heart but from all beings that participate in this great cause. That’s a mistake completely out of alignment.
i would not add any one with crypto the fee is 1%, tottaly pointless you don't need crypto to do well. I sugest not copying a bunch of traders and look for value investors avoid being to much into traders and short tearm people. /epicquality
Hi thamks for all your videos I'm learning a lot. I have one question on Stop loss. If i have a x10 leverage on say a commodity and i put in a stop loss of say e100. Will i lose x10 the stop loss (ie e100 x10= e1000) or just the e100 i put as the stop loss ❓Thank you 🙏
Just the stop loss :) Unless there's an anomalous situation like a 'gap down' where it blows past your stop loss... But yeah, the stop loss sets the max you want to lose. Leverage just makes you reach that stop loss quicker.
@@SocialTrading Thanks a million. Appreciate such a quick reply. You're explanations are excellent, as I say learning a lot. Thank you very much 🙏
Do you know if there is an option for PI's to set their own maximum AUM? Because I can definitely understand how getting more and more copiers can cause stress on some people.
That's a really good point... As far as I'm aware, no, there's no way for a PI to set that manually. I guess the trick must be to forget about the AUM and just trade your own portfolio as though that's all there is. Easier said than done... Maybe time and experience is the only way to get comfortable - not sure.
I feel like Celesh is going through the same situation as Izabee, but handeling it way more poorly. He's probably affected by the pressure of the amount of copiers he has. But where Izabee took responsibility. He's choosing to ignore it.
Yeah, she really did just go straight to the heart of the problem eh... He did do a post about his recent trading performance a couple of weeks ago, so he was trying to be open, but then the adding money and stats change thing really muddied the waters there. Hopefully he'll find his way through.
Nice video. Appreciated.
Thanks :)
Love your ranting on celesh. I feel like you can write a book about it haha.
No matter why it happened, I’d understand it though. It’s just the not knowing which has stopped me in my tracks - I talk about stats so much that when they seem to change like that, it means I can’t really talk about them properly until i know why…
@@SocialTrading fair enough xx
Have you considered any of the smartportfolios? at least you know 100% that those stats arn't being manipulated
How could I be sure of that? Ah, you mean the one without traders in the portfolio. True, I could look at them, but I was so pleased to find the traders I’m copying that I want to give them the chance to see what they can do still.
@@SocialTrading fair enough! with your other question - i'd probably add in Zech as China stocks have been down for awhile (though never know how it's going to play out)
That’s an interesting idea…
I can see a history area where I can see individual trades, is there an ability to see when I started copy trading people in history?
Hey there - yep, you can. You can see when you started copying them whilst you're still copying them - just click on their name in your portfolio and you can see when you started the copy on the top left. Once you've stopped the copy, you can go into your history, set the timeframe to the max - 1 year, and provided you started copying them within a year, you can scroll back and back (have to do it manually unfortunately) and you can see when you started copying them. It takes time to scroll back and back through all the trades which is annoying, and if it was more than a year ago that you started copying them, then I'm not sure how you can see it (maybe in the 'account statement'?)
What happened to Jay? I haven’t been on eToro for a couple years
Still going strong :) Got an email today from eToro talking about how well he's done for a decade. Amazing run :)
Have you uncopied celesh successfully? In the last video it was pending. Let us know. :) Cheers.
Nice video, have you considered opening a position in the S&P500 just to see if the traders "beat" it?
:) Nope, never done that one!
Beat it ??
@@SocialTrading Try that? Would be great to see whether it is worth the hassle with these copy traders.
I found it a bit confusing when I considered copying celesh as his profile says minimum copy amout is $400 and I eventually copied him but with $200 which wasn't making sense and at least was confusing. Wasnt sure if I get full benefits of his profits with $200 if he said minimum $400.
You can work that out by looking in his own portfolio and see what his smallest position sizes are. Then work out how much you copied him with and see if that percentage of your money would still be above the $1 minimum copies trade size (as long as it’s still $1…)
@@SocialTrading thanks
Its Saturday. Dont you have to wait till Monday to confirm the uncopy?
I filmed it yesterday, before the markets opened. Took a while to edit and upload
@@SocialTrading Ahhh sorry yeah.
Its interesting. In a bad market if a trader is down bad he has two choices
1) increase risk and get it back. Investors dont redeem
2) behave correctly. Get redeemed anyway
Most go route 1 since 2 doesnt provide any benefit
Heya man - by 'redeem' here, do you mean they stop copying?
@@SocialTrading yes in eToro context they stop copying
In tradfi, your boss stops giving you so much to trade or investors ask for their money back ("redeem")
I think Thomaspj and Melvin are the safest options, as I can see you are pretty avert to risk.
cheers for the feedback!
For me one of the worst thing i seen was with Shereen Ashraf. She was doing ok and in profit but than i seen she was in profit 26$ and had comitions of -21$. I don't know what was happening there but i imidiatly uncopied. The comitions was almost the same as earnings...
any update on saudi arabia ban?
I didn’t know it was banned. Wow - all of Saudi Arabia has been banned from using it?
@@SocialTrading yes it's on the banned country list, we don't like cornix because it's buggy
sorry sir, I don't know anything about it - you'll need to ask eToro directly about that. Sorry to hera you're having a hard time with it!
People pretending and trying and lieing to take my identity and get the money and the credits from my efforts and my own existence, plus hacking uncountable money from not just Heart but from all beings that participate in this great cause. That’s a mistake completely out of alignment.
Thomas, Shower is to relax and stop thinking about MAKING MONEY :D :D just kidding
It’s more how to explain stuff really - but yeah :)
@@SocialTrading yeah shower is been proven as the good time for getting great ideas as we relax and offload the overthinking.
i would not add any one with crypto the fee is 1%, tottaly pointless you don't need crypto to do well.
I sugest not copying a bunch of traders and look for value investors avoid being to much into traders and short tearm people.
/epicquality
I think I’m going to add the funds to some of the people I’m already copying…
@@SocialTrading or why not buysomething indevidual like berkshire or a ETF?
I'll start using them as a benchmark in the virtual I think...