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Aldgate - Where Four Tube Lines Intersect

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  • čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
  • Aldgate Station on the London Underground is where the Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan Lines intersect to the north and the Circle and District Lines intersect at the south, this video shows the surrounding junctions that run right next to the station and the movements that transfer trains from line to line.

Komentáře • 74

  • @nah_144
    @nah_144 Před 4 lety +18

    Aldgate is the coolest station in the Underground

  • @Baylescreen
    @Baylescreen Před 4 lety +11

    Thank you for this fascinating film which shows the complicated junctions at Aldgate filmed from some ingenious locations. I have often stood at the end north end of Platform 2 watching the trains from all directions negotiate the complicated trackwork. I can also remember the junction before it was built over!

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you! I can't imagine places like Aldgate, Mansion House and Westminster before they were built over, the whole area is changing beyond recognition. Even the signals shall disappear in July.

  • @faizul_thetrainspotter125

    An awesome video on one of my favourite parts of the Underground! :) Thank you for sharing👍

  • @Alteshaus21
    @Alteshaus21 Před 3 lety +4

    Aldgate was even nicer with The C and A stock and so on.
    I was there when the s stock was introduced. this variation on trains was simply brilliant

  • @DaveInBridport
    @DaveInBridport Před 4 lety +2

    Great to see. My late dad used this station up until his retirement

  • @tobeytransport2802
    @tobeytransport2802 Před 4 lety +9

    I’m a bit obsessed at the moment with this little triangle of lines, especially the fact that Aldgate East is classed as east end while Aldgate is city and they aren’t directly connected either even though there only about 300m apart! So interesting!

  • @davidpanton3192
    @davidpanton3192 Před 4 lety +6

    Good stuff. With all these points it's no wonder that things occassionally go wrong. Did you know that the Moscow Metro can only achieve its legendary timekeeping because no two lines share any track?

  • @jess.hawkins
    @jess.hawkins Před 4 lety +2

    That's wonderful arcing out of the west end of Aldgate East!

  • @TimeMeddler
    @TimeMeddler Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent and very informative. I liked the varied angles of the shots, very well put together.

  • @owenchuarbx
    @owenchuarbx Před 4 lety +5

    The Hub of The Sub Surface Network. Nice!

  • @patrickhemsley8631
    @patrickhemsley8631 Před 4 lety +15

    0:40 lmao that guy that almost mossed the train

    • @LengKingg
      @LengKingg Před 4 lety +2

      0:48 EVEN WORSE HE BE THINKING BYE BYE MY HANDS

  • @alexleo172
    @alexleo172 Před 4 lety

    It's cool to see Aldgate from a District Line train from East Aldgate

  • @joffdorling3562
    @joffdorling3562 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video mate I really like watching your videos 😊👍

  • @user-lj6jp8qp7z
    @user-lj6jp8qp7z Před 4 lety +13

    9:53 The closest the District Line and The Metropolitan Line ever come close to meeting each other

    • @j_mie6
      @j_mie6 Před 4 lety +3

      I've actually been on a district line train that didn't stop at Edgware road and instead became a District line train to Aldate. It was wild, never thought I'd see that!

    • @jess.hawkins
      @jess.hawkins Před 4 lety +2

      Ever since the Hammersmith & City was given its own identity about 20 years ago, yes!

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 Před 4 lety +4

      J_mie6 Interesting, Driver must have had Route knowledge, either that or they put a Met man on the front. Happened to me once @Acton Town Westbound, the points had frozen (failed heater) and were set for the Picc Route to Heathrow my Driver radioed control and found they couldn’t get a release of the route so he advised them that he had been route trained in the past on the Picc and could reverse via Northfields depot... so we went for a jolly thru a depot I had never seen before 😆 I’ve worked from the Wimbledon branch to Euston or Kings Cross on “C” Stock, but that was Football working. Can’t recall which as it wasn’t so unusual for me to be on that part of the network, as my Depot also provided crews for Circle Line working on Sundays

  • @timholman7433
    @timholman7433 Před 4 lety +3

    Good video. Aldgate junction has been used in fiction, too. It's where Sherlock Holmes realised that the body of a murdered man had been lowered from an adjacent window onto the roof of a train while it was stationary at the points outside the station. The story in question is "The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans."

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you. I'd imagine that the suspect's location would be heavily narrowed down to a few houses next to Aldgate in that murder mystery!

  • @JubileeDi
    @JubileeDi Před 6 lety +4

    Nice video. I love how Aldgate station is a station where 4 subsurface lines unite together

  • @TheLondonTransportDroid

    Great video

  • @trainfanatic4083
    @trainfanatic4083 Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome video!

  • @regulator67bj
    @regulator67bj Před 4 lety

    Nice catch of rail delivery with top and tail "Battery Units"

  • @London1064
    @London1064 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice one 👍

  • @rotman1288
    @rotman1288 Před 4 lety +1

    Very nice video with some good shots. As now an occasional visitor to London, rather than an inhabitant, I still can't quite get my mind round the fact that Circle line trains no longer run in a perpetual circle, but go to and from Hammersmith instead. Perhaps they should rename the line the Spiral Line?

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Nice idea, but they still do run in a traditional circle during times of disruption. On the current Covid-19 Reduced Timetable, there are six trains running in a conventional circle all day every day.

  • @thegreybeard3441
    @thegreybeard3441 Před 4 lety

    The area you can see at 8.26 ish used to have an old sand drag. Old A Stock trains could go into platform 1, points secured and it could just about fit into the platform without it’s rear cars blocking the points for the hot and cold. Also, the old style buffers used to hold water in them, was a great treat if you was on nights and had to ask the controller permission for the engineers to use a train to literally push into the buffers to expel the water so it could be recharged.

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      That process of refilling the buffers would certainly be interesting to see, how times change.

    • @thegreybeard3441
      @thegreybeard3441 Před 4 lety

      @@AlexMetroman was rostered there as an s/s from 03 to 05, lovely station to work at. Great fun watching them recharge them and grease them up!

  • @poopsonlavega
    @poopsonlavega Před 6 lety +7

    Why rear cab interior lights are always on ? :)

  • @BenTaylor.
    @BenTaylor. Před 6 lety +3

    What camera are you using

  • @brayand8022
    @brayand8022 Před 4 lety

    Oh and if you thought Canning Town was confusing This is more confusing than that!

  • @JamesTheBell1
    @JamesTheBell1 Před 4 lety

    And don't forget... Aldgate Station is on the site of an old plague pit.

  • @SdH76zhEU
    @SdH76zhEU Před 4 lety +2

    So the Trains are all the same new stock on the Subsurface-Lines now... i miss the old tractionsounds...edit; Theres an ole districtline train, buit i gues by now 2020 there gone...

    • @martbernie9113
      @martbernie9113 Před 4 lety

      czcams.com/video/SnNaMPR-e1I/video.html
      the d sto k have been send elsewhere in Britain and refitted with diesel engine

  •  Před 4 lety

    This junction must be a nightmare to manage for TFL. Poor Hammersmith line to Liverpool Street that has to pay the consequences. I wish they'd created a kind of tunnel allowing one track to pass under the other to avoid these blockages to avoid the circle/metropolitan to block the Hammersmith when entering to aldgate from Liverpool Street

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Even if they did spend a huge amount of money on putting in two extra tunnels where there is no room to do so, the trains would still have to wait for District Line trains. It would make no difference at all.

    •  Před 4 lety

      @@AlexMetroman yes for the eastbound services but this is not problematic for the Hammersmith. The problem is more with the westbound where a metropolitan or Circle (eastbound) is entering Aldage, this affects the westbound Hammersmith. The situation reminds me one metro station in France called "La fourche" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fourche_(Paris_M%C3%A9tro). they solved the problem by creating a 2-level train station, the upper level for the northbound/southbound trains with two platforms that predeceed the bifurcation, then the lower level for the southband coming from one side of the bifurcation only. I know I am dreaming but by creating a new Aldgade east underneath the actual aldgade east and only for the Hammersmith, this would have solved a lot of problems with the eastbound trains (District or metropolitan /circle) no longer blocking the westbound Hammersmith

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Even on the westbound they shall still be held. If you build a bypass, they still have to wait for Met/Circle IR trains leaving Aldgate and if you were to build a new Aldgate East, that would need the same aforementioned bypass tunnel. Holding the trains in the triangle with a few minutes built into the timetable so it remains on time is no big deal.

    •  Před 4 lety

      @@AlexMetroman oh yes, for sure. Only half of the problem will be solved. But still better than nothing. Because I have to say that the journey between Whitechapel and Barbican that I was doing every morning was so frustrating!

  • @ChilternRailPhotography
    @ChilternRailPhotography Před 4 lety +1

    A lot people stopping the doors there ;-;

  • @americanemirates8867
    @americanemirates8867 Před 4 lety

    When was the video taken?

  • @krayzkatman1990
    @krayzkatman1990 Před 4 lety

    I do wish passengers didn't force their way onto trains that are ready to depart. This can cause delays as well as being potentially dangerous. I sympathise with those in a hurry but there should be another train along in a few minutes

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Funnily enough, I go to Moscow every few months and always have a day or two recording on the Metro when I'm there. Yes that is correct, junctions across lines are also kept to a minimum to avoid conflicting moves. At terminus stations, the driver gets out and two extra drivers get on the train, one at each end. The first extra driver drives the train into the sidings, the second extra driver at the other end drives the train out of the sidings whilst the driver who brought the train walks across the station to drive it back to the other end of the line. Those two extra drivers spend their whole shift driving in/out the sidings at that station and doing so means the train can turn around instantly, saving up to five minutes where if the single driver had to change ends themselves.

  • @LeeSmith-cf1vo
    @LeeSmith-cf1vo Před 4 lety

    Watching this it has now become quite obvious why they moved Aldgate East station - to create space sufficient to hold a train between junctions.
    Also, having never been there I actually had no idea just how close Aldgate East junction is to the station.

  • @marksinthehouse1968
    @marksinthehouse1968 Před 4 lety

    Well only three the district does serve Aldgate only passes at the junction

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      No, they all intersect at the triangle.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 Před 4 lety +2

      I’d say technically correct as the DIstrict line doesn’t serve Aldgate station. The only “DIstrict” relationship with that station was surely the old Circle line working by Parsons Green Crews on Sunday’s back before OPO was introduced - not sure if that continued afterwards as I was one of the DIstrict Guards displaced.

  • @copilotconrad
    @copilotconrad Před 4 lety

    Is it me or from a distance does the S Stock look like old C Stock trains?!

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +2

      I'll have to disagree with you there, C Stock are totally different.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 Před 4 lety +2

      WSouthAirport I think you have focussed on the door configuration where there are no single leaf doors at the end of the cars, allowing a seating bay to the side of the “end doors” but then that was also true for the D78 as well.

  • @MalaysianAviator737-8
    @MalaysianAviator737-8 Před 4 lety

    Why have 2 Aldgate stations?

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      Aldgate and Aldgate East are two separate stations due to the two different train companies (each TfL line used to be a competing company back in Victorian times). Aldgate was built first for what is now the Metropolitan Line and Aldgate East was built later for what is now the District Line. If you imagine a triangle, two stations are needed as they are on each side of the triangle. It's impossible to branch trains and then loop them around, so two stations on each branch were built.

    • @gpan62
      @gpan62 Před 4 lety

      No sharzies 😉

    • @hollyhamilton3094
      @hollyhamilton3094 Před 4 lety +2

      The Transport system was built and operated by private companies until partial nationalisation (London Transport Passenger Act 1933) and full nationalisation in the Transport Act 1947. Underground Electric Railways Company of London and the Metropolitan Railway were the main two towards 1933.

    • @MalaysianAviator737-8
      @MalaysianAviator737-8 Před 4 lety

      CoachAlex1996 (AlexMetroman) the Met and District Lines stopped at the same stations like Tower hill. If they can do that, why not with Aldgate? Just asking

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +3

      The Metropolitan Line never went to Tower Hill. The Met runs along the top of the circle and the District runs along the bottom of the Circle. They met at Aldgate East.

  • @tommyhemlock7915
    @tommyhemlock7915 Před 4 lety

    Always good when some plank forces the doors open as they’re closing 🙄. Try getting to the station early.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 Před 4 lety +1

      Tommy Hemlock That always frustrated the hell out of me as a Guard. I even had one commuter try to board my cab after I had closed up and given the bell one morning on The eastbound (D stock). Commuters can be such dicks , with the service interval that the tube runs to there’s no excuse for such impatience.

    • @AlexMetroman
      @AlexMetroman  Před 4 lety +1

      I used to be a guard on national rail and always found it annoying when passengers would hold the doors. When they got stuck, I used to walk down, pull the doors apart far enough for them to free their body part/article of luggage, let the door slam shut, walk back to my cab and give the bells. It's the small victories.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 Před 4 lety

      CoachAlex1996 (AlexMetroman) Yes I did the same with an abusive Woman pushing a Baby buggy with a black bag in it on the north @ Embankment one Sunday. I let the recorded announcement play in full while I walked across to the platform wall and back then after the “Stand Clear of the Doors” announcement I hit “Close” she ran to the train and crammed the buggy into the now closing doors” then she immediately started screaming abuse and swearing ... so I removed my position key and walked down, pulled the door to remove her buggy and let the doors slam shut. She was still mouthing abuse as I passed her while stood in my open guards door as we left the platform. It’s all about attitude...