P10C The Final Verdict: Will It Stay or Go?

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  • @Sirgromulus
    @Sirgromulus Před 2 lety +17

    My favorite polymer striker fired handgun, especially after installing a Cajun Gun Works performance package and HBI trigger. A Holosun 507C green dot and Night Fision optic height sights are just icing on the cake.

  • @blacklilac1408
    @blacklilac1408 Před 2 lety +23

    I really do think you got a lemon on this one with its trigger problems. After watching all three videos I %100 agree that yours is stagey. I would say either send it to CZ or go to a gun store that has one and see if models that have are the same.

    • @awokeone7997
      @awokeone7997 Před 2 lety +2

      It's not a lemon but depends what gen he got and it could be the trigger bar. I have the 1st gen with the ambi mag release and that trigger is beautiful and compared to my P10F, it's totally different and I also replace the trigger bar on the P10F but still not as good. I have added the HBi striker spring, 15 % reduce to the P10c but even prior to that it was still better.

  • @seanhayes5928
    @seanhayes5928 Před rokem +6

    Great follow up review. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this gun, giving it a “2nd chance “. Also… nice shooting!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem

      Thank you. I’m glad you liked it!

  • @panama-canada
    @panama-canada Před rokem +1

    I have the same feelings as you with this gun. Same experience.

  • @robertkf1
    @robertkf1 Před 2 lety +8

    Pretty good vid! I've had a box stock P10C for years, it's one of my favorite handguns and carried frequently. I always thought of it as an improvement over the G19 and the main selling points to me were the trigger and ergos. Yours may have had some staging effect that got worked out. Excellent grouping, by the way.

  • @sonnygunz9207
    @sonnygunz9207 Před 2 lety

    Great video and shooting, sir. Thanks.

  • @johnashby5397
    @johnashby5397 Před 2 lety +1

    Really comprehensive evaluation. Enjoyed.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thanks John, I’m glad you did.

  • @paulrenner6387
    @paulrenner6387 Před 2 lety

    Your shooting is always impressive and you did it again with that pistol. A lot of people with a rifle and high dollar scope can’t shoot that well at 25 yards. Another good video sir.

  • @keithtate1241
    @keithtate1241 Před 2 lety

    Nice shooting. Looks like the pistol has earned a place at the table. Thanks for the video and wishing you and yours a happy Easter.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Happy Easter to you and yours Keith!

  • @jwc00789
    @jwc00789 Před 2 lety

    Excellent Shooting and Congratulations on working with your P10C paying off!

  • @Bob-lq9ys
    @Bob-lq9ys Před 2 lety +2

    Good video and lesson , thanks

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @TheGunfighter45acp
    @TheGunfighter45acp Před 2 lety +10

    Well done! I feel the same way about Glocks. I can qual & feel confident enough w/them, but given a choice, they'll probably stay in the safe w/something else on the hip.

    • @dalekidd420
      @dalekidd420 Před 2 lety +3

      Well, I think we all know exactly how the Chief feels about Glocks! LOL!

  • @mikaeljonsson2078
    @mikaeljonsson2078 Před rokem +1

    I have the exact same setup, and slow firing I can be very accurate. I also tried an IPSC match once with it, and I was grossly inconsistent. Some stages went pretty well, and some I completely bodged. Why, I don't know exactly, but I suspect inconsistent grip, and handling the trigger. I'm not big on dry fire, but perhaps I should give it a serious try, because in essence I just like this gun! I know that it's much better than me for sure:)

  • @granddad-mv5ef
    @granddad-mv5ef Před 2 lety

    You could turn this experience into a movie. A troubled beginning with lots of drama, then the sun begins to shine through the clouds. And finally, MY favorite, the happy ending. And Happy Easter!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Happy Easter to you too!

  • @johnherr3579
    @johnherr3579 Před 2 lety +1

    Have a good Easter and enjoy the time with your family.
    If you intend to use the P10 as a range gun it's a keeper. For defense or carry I would do something about the trigger. You want total confidence for that, not hesitating to finesse the trigger. Remember Bill Jordan, " No second place winner."

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I have reservations about changing the trigger on a carry pistol. We’ll see what the future holds for the P10C. Happy Easter to you and your family John.

  • @arthuroubre7562
    @arthuroubre7562 Před 2 lety +5

    A good friend of mine, asked me to recommend a pistol, to purchase. I had owned a CZ P10 C and had carried a P10F as a duty pistol. Boy did I cringed when I saw the tittle of your video. I have to agree with some of your other viewers. I think you may have got a lemon. I would strongly recommend a HBI trigger. This trigger makes the pistol much more comfortable to shoot.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thank you. I’m curious, we’re you allowed to swap out the trigger on your duty pistol?

    • @arthuroubre7562
      @arthuroubre7562 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk It was personally owned. I just changed the trigger shoe. The trigger pull weight was not effected

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      @@arthuroubre7562 Thank
      You. I was just curious since most departments prohibit any modification of a duty weapon.

  • @99Racker
    @99Racker Před 2 lety

    The day was not wasted as any day on the range is great. Consistent triggers is a requirement for me but I don't recall a pistol that wasn't consistent once I got used to it. Thanks. Semper Fi

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Semper Fi and thanks for watching!

  • @RidersRange
    @RidersRange Před 2 lety +2

    The CZ P10 - what Glock could have been. Nice detailed follow-up, as I've come to expect from your channel. BTW, my P10S easily hit the 8" plate at 50 yards on my range, and it only took three shots to hit the 6" plate at 50 yards - with factory iron sights. I guess I need to do a follow-up video now that I have an optic on it.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Good shooting! I’ve noted that the mechanical accuracy of my P10C is rather impressive. Even so, the trigger quality diminishes the shooter’s ability to apply that accuracy.

    • @RidersRange
      @RidersRange Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk I agree. That's why I prefer a 1911.

  • @gregcampwriter
    @gregcampwriter Před 2 lety +2

    My own experience with the P10C, limited to checking one out at the gun store, was that it's a Glock made in the Czech Republic--and that's not to disparage either. The striker-fired, polymer-framed design is good for what it offers.
    But the gun I bought was a CZ 75B. Yes, it's bigger and heavier. But that, combined with the grips, improves the subjective perception of the pistol for me while shooting it. It's not as easy to carry as the Glockenpolymers, but I can manage doing so, and that's worth the effort.
    Someday, I'll get a P10C or perhaps the F model just because I like what the company does. Since this is their first striker-fired product, I'm anticipating improvements as they gain knowledge in the type.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve got a 75B too, and also a P01. They are both outstanding pistols!

  • @atumre4705
    @atumre4705 Před 2 lety +7

    I have the P10F and love it. In 2022 there are just a ton of great striker fired pistols to chose from.

    • @atumre4705
      @atumre4705 Před 2 lety +1

      Great video. Any pistol that rings a bell at 50 yards is a keeper.

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember Před 2 lety +3

    Go get an after market trigger. Seems like the dry fire and the backstrap as well as more deliberate shots made all the difference but that doesn't mean that trigger can't be much better.

  • @jrcannon8945
    @jrcannon8945 Před 2 lety +3

    Maybe CZ has changed some of the parts specs. I purchased 2 of them the first year they were released, both very smooth with short resets. The p10c's are pistols that I will never trade, they always put a smile on my face at the range!

  • @rickymiller177
    @rickymiller177 Před 3 měsíci

    Still my favorite pistol. I was a Glock guy till I purchased p10c, love it, I guess your going to love it or hate it.I can’t wait till cz has a new version cause they blew it out the park

  • @favor4afavor823
    @favor4afavor823 Před rokem +1

    When three bullets go through the same hole and the pistol is *not* a tack driver then there's something wrong with your tack 😆

  • @karlnash7105
    @karlnash7105 Před 2 lety

    Nothing wrong with not liking some features of a handgun. I am also finicky with triggers.
    I can overlook some things about a handgun but the trigger is not one of these features.
    I would definitely replace the trigger. I have purchased pistols that I would not shoot until I replaced the trigger.
    Thanks for sharing your experience HR Funk.
    Semper Fi

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      You’re welcome Karl. Semper Fi!

  • @maximusblueline8546
    @maximusblueline8546 Před rokem

    Great video. Outstanding shooting. I have the P-10c that I just purchased 5 weeks ago. Love the gun. No optic yet. Are you a fan of optics? I’m 63 and my son keeps telling me optics are the future

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem +1

      Thank you! I'm a fan of optics for some applications. In close range defensive use, they have little value. On the other hand, for long-range handgunning they seem to be beneficial. Like anything else, they have thier song points and their drawbacks.

  • @v.german11b
    @v.german11b Před 2 lety

    I own two CZ models: the P10 C tactical suppressor-ready (17+1) and the P10 F (19+1 and 21+1 mags). Both of them are reliable, very accurate, with smooth trigger pulls, and fantastic ergonomics. They both are keepers along with my other favorite handguns in my collection. I have zero issues with the CZ, but only praises.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Good. I’m glad they work for you.

    • @v.german11b
      @v.german11b Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk they do, flawlessly so far.

  • @roykiefer7713
    @roykiefer7713 Před 2 lety +4

    Well, that was fine shooting with the P10C (and, fwiw, I entirely agree with your points re mechanical offset and a slight upward adjustment to the red dot optic). We’ve all had experiences with some perfectly fine firearms that just are not ideal for a given INDIVIDUAL. For example, two Glock (plus many other I have shot) certainly fall into that category, BUT millions of people ardently believe in “Glock perfection.”
    So, I’d now not be concerned with buying a P10C, although there are many other “same category” autoloaders that I’d likely prefer. Its longer range accuracy really was (imho) quite impressive.
    Wishing you and your family a joyous Easter.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +5

      Happy Easter to you too Roy. My whole family is here this weekend and it's already joyous!

    • @roykiefer7713
      @roykiefer7713 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hrfunk
      That’s wonderful!

  • @bbmw9029
    @bbmw9029 Před 2 lety

    Howard, this was a good, informative video. I have an idea that would be an interesting follow up to this and some of your other recent videos. This would be to do a shooting comparison video of this gun vs your S&W Model 19 Carry Comp. Pick a series of time/accuracy scored drills, run both guns, and see what the scored show. Also review them for concealed carry potential.
    Another video I'd like to see you do would be to pick up a Hellcat Pro, and review that, especially vs this gun and your original Hellcat. My take on the Hellcat Pro is that it's a Glock 19 (and clones) put on a diet, making it smaller, thinner and lighter. I'd like to see what you'd think about it from a shooting perspective.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thank you. I was thinking about using the Carry Comp in a video comparing it to the Glock 19 (19 vs. 19). I’ll probably do something along those lines eventually.
      So far I’m kind of lukewarm to the Hellcat Pro. I’m not sure what it brings to the table that isn’t already covered by a lot of other pistols (I still love my original Hellcat, though). Stay tuned. I’m sure I’ll come up with something to interest you!

    • @bbmw9029
      @bbmw9029 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk The Hellcat pro is definitely NOT a microcompact (al la the original Hellcat.) What it does bring to the game is some of that microcompact DNA into the standard compact (ie Glock 19) sized) class. If you want a three fingered grip, and a >3.5" barrel, but want the gun to be as small, thin and light as possible, it's right there. That's what I think makes it interesting.

  • @awokeone7997
    @awokeone7997 Před 2 lety

    I honestly thought after seeing the other vids of the P10c that you were going to toss it but glad you stuck with it. I don't know how you feel about playing with the trigger but I bought the HBi trigger for it along with the striker springs and I didn't like the HBi trigger but do recommend change the striker spring to the 15% reduce one. I love my P10C and F.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thank you. I’m considering trigger replacement/modification options. Stay tuned!

  • @glockster68
    @glockster68 Před 6 měsíci

    Guns and holsters(even more so) are very personal. I like the CZ P10C/F models better than just about any glock or most other striker guns except for the Walther PPQ/PDP guns. I dont have to change triggers, add talon grip tape or change the sights like on a glock for instance. Putting an HB industries or Cajun Gun Works straight trigger might help. All the different P10 series guns I shot had decent striker gun triggers in them

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 6 měsíci

      Good! I hope they continue to work well for you. Thanks for watching.

  • @mikedillon6233
    @mikedillon6233 Před 2 lety

    I have to say, I could hand you a pile of rocks and you would still have a really nice group of where ever you threw the rocks At! Once again superior shooting!! And you could tell that all the work you had done had made the difference.

  • @a.d.c7941
    @a.d.c7941 Před rokem

    Love the intro music, like watching a good action movie from the 80’s and early 90’s. Just that good nostalgic feeling.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem +1

      Thank you ! That’s was composed and recorded by my son.

    • @a.d.c7941
      @a.d.c7941 Před rokem

      @@hrfunk wow, he is really good!!

  • @williambarnette1049
    @williambarnette1049 Před 2 lety

    I agree Chief as of now I would hang on to it.

  • @cliffhouser9138
    @cliffhouser9138 Před 2 lety

    Another great video!!!

  • @sonyacrutchfield8593
    @sonyacrutchfield8593 Před 2 lety

    You can change the trigger . Hb industry trigger with 3 - 3 .5 Ib striker spring.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I’m looking into trigger options, but I must say the idea of dropping another $80-$100 just to get a descent trigger annoys me. I doubt I’ll opt for the HB version because I don’t want to compromise ignition reliability.

  • @scottperson9487
    @scottperson9487 Před 2 lety

    Nice video. Recently I went through my safe and sold off a number of guns that I had not passion for, served no purpose that another firearm of mine also served, were not collectable and most likely would not be leaving my safe in the future. From your recent reviews of this gun I would have sold it if I owned it and felt like you do about it.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Let’s see what happens. Maybe it’s just a late bloomer.

    • @waterhead1359
      @waterhead1359 Před 2 lety

      He should of sent it back to cz to fix the trigger, by him doing videos like this he's turning alot of people away from cz I don't know why

    • @kennethbaker5223
      @kennethbaker5223 Před 2 lety

      @@waterhead1359 He's not turning anyone off. After 4-5 years, this pistol has universal acclaim. The verdict was in long before he made this video. There is always someone that doesn't like something, but the preponderance of opinion is very positive about this pistol, and CZ in general.

    • @waterhead1359
      @waterhead1359 Před 2 lety

      @Kenneth Baker I appreciate that but I looked at the comments says they were thinking about it or was on the fence about buying the p10 but after watching the video they decided not to.my comment was he should've sent it back for repair alot of comments saying he should.

  • @frankhinkle5772
    @frankhinkle5772 Před 2 lety

    I really didn't think the P10C was going to stay. I was going to suggest putting that red dot on the Masada and testing it on there to see if it was more accurate than on the P10C. Good shooting, good final evaluation.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Frank! I have the Hi-Lux TD-3C on the Masada and it works quite well.

  • @TheGV50
    @TheGV50 Před 3 měsíci

    Great job with this video Howard! I have a First Gen P10c (2018) and I liked It so much I bought a Second Gen P10c. The early versions of the P10c's had an Issue with the CAST Strikers Breaking Their Tips off (Check Out The Gun Penquins CZcams Video) so I replaced both of my Strikers with Forged Steel Replacements from Cajun Gun Works! CZ had some Issues with some of the First Generation of the P10c! The triggers on both of my P10c's are amazing and I was surprised to see that you said you weren't to happy with the trigger pull on your sample. One of the selling points of this pistol Is It's smooth trigger press.. I'm curious If you just got a Lemon or did CZ modify the trigger design In order to address some other Issue? When CZ Introduced this pistol back In 2017 there were a host of problems. I spoke to David Milan who owns Cajun Gun Works a few years ago and he was very Informative and helpful. I would suggest you give the Boys at Cajun Gun Works a call and speak to them about your P10c!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 3 měsíci

      I’m glad you enjoy your P10s, and it’s great that they work so well for you! I was just never able to warm up to mine. I sanded up trading it a while back on a Canik Mete. Of the two, I much prefer the Canik.

  • @papimaximus95
    @papimaximus95 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks...Always great reviews. Question about your multiple target drill: Why the 1-3-2 pattern? I was always taught (and teach) a 1-2-1-1-1 pattern. The theory is that the 1st bad guy gets a second follow up shot faster. The last 1-1 are failure shots if needed. Love to hear your thoughts.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      It’s just the way I learned the drill. It used to be part of the Ohio qualification course and that’s the way it was conducted. It’s also kind of fun to see just how fast you can rap off those 6 shots on the two targets.

    • @papimaximus95
      @papimaximus95 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk Thank you. Appreciate the info. Happy Easter!

  • @caseychomiczewski7377
    @caseychomiczewski7377 Před 2 lety

    Good video.Would of been nice to adjust the sight when you mentioned your going low.Guns staying,for now...

  • @yukon4545
    @yukon4545 Před 2 lety +1

    Good decision. Too many pluses to send down the road because of a so-so trigger that can be remedied by a CZ mechanic or after market replacement.
    Thanks HR.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

  • @18winsagin
    @18winsagin Před 2 lety

    Happy Easter Sunday
    🕊️🕊️🕊️

  • @Rnemhrd
    @Rnemhrd Před 2 lety

    So often I see people shoot guns they don't click with really well. You still have to love it IMO. If not it will just take a back seat about every time. You shot it well. Do you really love it though? I got rid of guns I loved but didn't shoot well, and guns I shot well but wasn't in love with. It's like the car you don't like but gets you there every time. Also. Surprised you haven't got the new shield yet.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I still like my Hellcat so much that I haven’t really looked at the new Shields. Who knows though? Maybe I’ll try one out in the future. Thanks for watching!

  • @peteshour768
    @peteshour768 Před 2 lety +2

    I hope HR. has a bottle of polymer hand sanitizer handy?

  • @StevenSmith-pt8rz
    @StevenSmith-pt8rz Před 8 měsíci +1

    As for the trigger .On mine the take up is very smooth, then you hit a wall like a 2 stage with a light let off. A vast improvement over the Glock triggers. As far as accuracy it is also superior to the Glock. I am still in the brake in stage on the p10c, but if it continues to be this good it will replace my g19 as my ccw. P.S. No disrespect to you ,Sir . What works for one person. Might not work for another. You have a nice day.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Good for you! I’m glad the P10 is performing well. I hope it continues to do so for a long time to come!

  • @clutchcargo1239
    @clutchcargo1239 Před 2 lety

    I think the trigger, on your particular example, isn't as smooth, or light as say, my particular P10C. Mine does have a little bit of creep before the break, but it's predictable. Mine pulls in the mid to low 4lb range. A trigger I'm truly impressed with out of the box... PDP, and Shield Plus performance center. My CZ is nicer than my G19, you should check out another P10C to compare with yours. Looks to me, you can shoot about anything you want too, and pretty well. Have fun, and have a nice Easter. LGB!! 🇺🇸

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks! Happy Easter to you too.

  • @thomasblottman6741
    @thomasblottman6741 Před rokem

    Polish the internals with some flitz you will love it

  • @IronChefBklyn
    @IronChefBklyn Před 11 měsíci +1

    First time I ever heard anyone use the word "mushy" when it comes to the P10C trigger... Granted it's no 1911 trigger, but personally I think it's one of the best stock triggers in the polymer striker-fired arena. Probably needs breaking in.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 11 měsíci

      If so, someone else will have to do it. After about a year of working with the P10C, and being disappointed with it, I traded it on a Canik Mete. If you get a chance to handle one of those, see if you notice a difference between that trigger and the one in the P10.

  • @mariuszj3441
    @mariuszj3441 Před 4 měsíci

    I have its smaller brother p10s. At 50 yards there is no problem hitting the target.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good! I hope it serves you well for a long time to come.

  • @cmonsterz
    @cmonsterz Před 2 lety

    Very interesting video series, HR! Have you ever tried the HK VP9?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      No I haven’t, but I would like to.

  • @doctorsorder414
    @doctorsorder414 Před 2 lety

    Respect your review but my p10c is possibly the best polymer striker gun I’ve fired. I carry it daily with 17 rd mags. Love it

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Good! I’m glad it works well for you.

  • @patwalsh2868
    @patwalsh2868 Před 2 lety

    Hi, I enjoy your channel. !! I just wanted to let you know that every other video I watched, n all testers said the trigger was nice , n all were less than 5 pounds !
    Hope I didn’t overstep, but I felt I should say something !!! Thanks 😷💥🔫👻

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks Pat, I appreciate your comment. It’s no problem whatsoever. I’ve heard/seen the other reviews too, and it’s possible those folks just got pistols with better triggers than I did. It’s also possible that they didn’t, but they were reluctant to be a lone voice criticizing a feature that so many others lauded. I got into this a little bit in my review of the P10C. I’ll try to state it a little more plainly here. If one or more prominent and highly regarded CZcamsrs praise a particular firearm, there are others who don’t wish to stand in contradiction to their review(s).

  • @dalekidd420
    @dalekidd420 Před 2 lety

    The pistol may be a wee bit quirky, but it DOES perform in the right hands... and after watching that, I'd say yours ARE. Having watched a LOT of reviews of this pistol, and noting that they very much fall into line with the general comments on your videos, I agree with some of the other commenters who think you may have just acquired an example with a bad trigger. I really wonder if changing out to an aftermarket trigger might not change that P10C from an "okay" pistol to one of your favorite shooters overnight... Food for thought. And maybe meat for some future videos. ;-)

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Dale. Im considering a trigger change, but I haven’t decided for certain. Stay tuned!

  • @LYLEWOLD
    @LYLEWOLD Před 2 lety +1

    Hi HR, any interest in, or experience with the P09 or P07? My current best shooting polymer pistol is a SIG SP2022 (surprised me). I shoot hammer fired pistols better (and I like the DA/SA option) and generally they seem to have better triggers. Made me wonder if you had any thoughts on those models.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I’ve handled both the P07 and the P09, but I’ve never fired either one. If I ever do, I’ll share my thoughts in a video. Thanks for watching Lyle!

    • @ReyesFL
      @ReyesFL Před 2 lety

      I own a P07 I rotate between my P10c and P07. To answer your question about the P07 it shoots like a dream.

    • @LYLEWOLD
      @LYLEWOLD Před 2 lety

      @@ReyesFL Thanks Iggy. Stuck behind the tofu curtain, and it's not on our roster, so not an option until I move to a free state. But I like CZs and had a feeling about them. Thanks for your assessment.

  • @brianp9503
    @brianp9503 Před 2 lety

    Good job at 50 !

  • @sgtmajtrapp3391
    @sgtmajtrapp3391 Před 2 lety

    The great thing about firearms is there is a vast array of options from which to choose, what is a wonderful pistol for one maybe a terrible choice for someone else. That does not mean if it's a quality firearm, there is something wrong with the pistol, just doesn't do it for you. GLOCKS work and are reliable pistols I just don't like them, (closet hater because YEP I own one in a Gen 5 Model 19 9mm). Others don't like 1911 pistols thinking them antiquated but these are my favorite design and give me a lot of confidence. Is it not wonderful that web have So many choices. Have a blessed Easter.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Happy Easter to you too Sergeant Major.

  • @LionquestFitness
    @LionquestFitness Před 2 lety

    No flash, no glam - just quality shooting and analysis.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Greg! Takes one to know one!

  • @dennishein2812
    @dennishein2812 Před 2 lety +1

    You took the time to see if you could make friends with it rather than just declaring it junk and trading it off. You may get rid of it later on but until then you can have some fun with it.

  • @steve586586
    @steve586586 Před 2 lety

    You mentioned this pistol having inconsistent trigger pull weights. Have you done any more testing with a gauge?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve done extensive testing with a trigger pull gauge.

  • @wardellleake6434
    @wardellleake6434 Před 2 lety

    You should look into the Apex trigger kit for this gun, you’ll probably like the improvement

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I’ve been looking at replacement trigger options. Stay tuned!

    • @teller1290
      @teller1290 Před 11 měsíci

      Is Apex its own company or is "Apex" trigger you refer to a product sold by a company of another name.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I believe the company name is Apex Tactical.

  • @TietLung
    @TietLung Před 2 lety

    If you havent tried one yet, you might prefer the trigger on the walther PPQ. It feels much lighter and doesnt have that stackyness the p10 has. I prefer the p10 and carry a p10f. My wife has the PPQ m2 and her trigger for me was much lighter and cleaner. I think the walther PDP has the same trigger as the PPQ.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Thanks. Sooner or later I’ll give one a try.

    • @skipboyer1889
      @skipboyer1889 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk The PPQ trigger is absolutely the best striker fired trigger on the market today, bar none….

  • @danbyers8462
    @danbyers8462 Před 2 lety

    Good video HR! Just haven't caught the CZ "bug!"

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve got a couple of metal-frame CZ pistols that I really like. On the other hand, the P10 has taken some getting used to.

    • @danbyers8462
      @danbyers8462 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk I think if I had a little more exposure to the CZ line I would warm up to them. They seem to be alot of value (quality) for the price point.

  • @f51a
    @f51a Před 2 lety

    Groo here check out the Canik TP9 Elite SC Just got one and was greatly supprised...

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I have looked at them, but I haven’t fired one. If I do, you’ll see it in a video.

  • @edwinprotacio1984
    @edwinprotacio1984 Před 2 lety

    My 1st and did not fail 😊 CZ all the way 🎵

  • @prestonlynch3421
    @prestonlynch3421 Před 2 lety

    Can you tell me the name of the camo pattern that is on your pants please? Thanks

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      It’s basically a woodland camo. I got the pants from Duluth Trading Company.

  • @xrpxtrariceplease2811
    @xrpxtrariceplease2811 Před 8 měsíci

    excellent followup reviews

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @xrpxtrariceplease2811
      @xrpxtrariceplease2811 Před 8 měsíci

      @@hrfunk
      I just bought the optic ready version of the CZP10C. Can you please help me how to get the free plate from CZ? I thought you are allow to get one free plate but i don’t have anyway to contact them . Please help me if you know who to contact thanks in advanced

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 8 měsíci

      As I recall, I had to order to mounting plate through their website. Also, I don’t think it was free. I think it cost $20 (+/-).

    • @xrpxtrariceplease2811
      @xrpxtrariceplease2811 Před 8 měsíci

      @@hrfunk
      Ok.

  • @RepentorPerish77
    @RepentorPerish77 Před rokem

    I shoot the P10C very well. One of my favorite 9mms

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem

      Good. I hope it serves you well for a long time.

  • @baxter37texas
    @baxter37texas Před 2 lety

    Love mine but thinking about giving it to my daughter who is about to graduate from AirForce basic training.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      That would be a great gift. Best wishes for her.

  • @jorgefajardo2213
    @jorgefajardo2213 Před 2 lety

    The P 10C it's guilty of turning my G19 into the night stand gun.

  • @pgg0024
    @pgg0024 Před 2 lety

    So.. would you rather carry this or the G19 you carry now?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I would take the P10C over the G19. Then again, there’s a lot of other handguns I would also prefer to the Glock.

  • @monocogenit1
    @monocogenit1 Před rokem

    Was going to say, I think the trigger is one of the best attributes for the cz p10. I have the cz P10 f and it has one of the best triggers I have felt in a polymer striker fired pistol, maybe just behind the PDP and vp9. I will say though, it doesn't feel as nice, or as well built, as my g19x or even my cz75 sp-01. Just seems a bit loose...loose tolerances, slide kinda rattles, etc. Shoots great though and trigger is consistent. Was yours made in the czech republic? I think some were made in USA.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem +1

      Mine was made in the USA. I believe all the optic ready versions are made here.

    • @monocogenit1
      @monocogenit1 Před rokem +1

      @@hrfunk thanks. My p10f was made in Czech Republic. It is just normal iron sights.

  • @voyouers
    @voyouers Před 2 lety +1

    That is so hard for me to take in my it's in my CZ sits at 4 to 4 and a 1/2 pounds and it is so smooth smooth I just wish you had a better option or a better a better I don't know just saying I wish you had a different CZ to try that Peyton is amazing

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I MIGHT swap out the trigger for an aftermarket option. I don’t like doing that, but maybe I will.

    • @voyouers
      @voyouers Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk I was voice texting. My apologies. I just love mine I love to shoot her . I too went to the small back strap I put the biggest on at first ended up with the small so shocked

  • @CoasterCoat
    @CoasterCoat Před 2 lety

    Do you like the M&P 2.0 or Cz p10c more?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Between those two, I prefer the M&P.

  • @scottcampbell2585
    @scottcampbell2585 Před 2 lety

    FYI the killer innovations magwell and mag extensions are great options, just got information that they will not be making any more mag extensions because of Washington state being babies.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      That figures. Thanks for the info!

  • @ricklarence7751
    @ricklarence7751 Před rokem

    Bought one today

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem

      I hope you love it!

  • @perrymcfry4696
    @perrymcfry4696 Před 2 měsíci

    What holster are you using?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 měsíci

      I’m pretty sure it was an Alien Gear shape shift for a Glock 19.

  • @dougdarby3564
    @dougdarby3564 Před rokem

    At this writing I sm waiting to take delivery of a new P10C Got it for $309! I am certain it will be the US made version Anyone havexany insight as to how the US and Czech versions compare? Ive heard the US verions dont have a forged barrel

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem

      I personally don’t think. There’s much difference between them. I’m sure others will vehemently disagree.

  • @kentonhammond8938
    @kentonhammond8938 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't like plastic guns....period. but I Love CZ'S & I own 3 of them, all metal. My latest purchase was the CZ 75 P01 Compact aluminum frame. Out shoots any Glock & only weighs ounces more than the Glock 19, same size & carry's the same payload,...I'll tote the extra weight.

    • @oleboy7615
      @oleboy7615 Před 2 lety

      Perhaps what you meant to say is that you outshoot yourself with a Glock. My experience is that I shoot a Glock as accurately as I did my CZ-75, which I loved, but it’s a little myopic to think one pistol outshoots another.

    • @paulrenner6387
      @paulrenner6387 Před 2 lety +1

      I have the pcr same size as the p01 and I love it. Changed sights to truglo tfx fiber optic and built in night sights. Factory sights , I couldn’t see them and had a hard time finding the front sight. Next gun will be the p01.

    • @kentonhammond8938
      @kentonhammond8938 Před 2 lety +1

      I put blaze orange fingernail polish on the front sight,..works pretty well. I would like tru glow but I don't have a sight tool.

    • @kentonhammond8938
      @kentonhammond8938 Před 2 lety

      @@oleboy7615 Glocks just don't have the grip angle I'm use to & I am always searching for the sights when I bring it up on target. With the great grip of the CZ's,.. High-Power's, 1911's & even my Beretta's I always outshoot the Glocks. But you're right, they're all accurate, but I have never found a Kydex whatever gun that I truely like. I'm just too old school now to change. I love the classic's.

    • @oleboy7615
      @oleboy7615 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kentonhammond8938 I have to agree the CZ75, BHP and 1911 are all fantastic pieces of history, and I love them.

  • @kdcowboy9478
    @kdcowboy9478 Před 2 lety

    Are there any firearms you fired that no matter how much you practice you won't get better or a decent marksman can shoot anything proficiently with practice? Great video.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +2

      I can adapt to pretty much anything. It all depends upon how much work I want to put into the effort.

    • @kdcowboy9478
      @kdcowboy9478 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk Even a Glock Ha!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, but I just won’t like it very much!

  • @dangerman007
    @dangerman007 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd keep it too. Very accurate. I had trouble shooting my Glocks at first as well. Stryker fired triggers feel weird to me. Now that I'm used to them, I'm happy. Still, I tend to carry a revolver. I first learned to shoot with a double action wheel gun, and I like the consistent trigger pull.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I’ve never cared for Glock triggers either. I’m not sure why it’s so hard to build a striker system with a good trigger.

    • @pmorin313
      @pmorin313 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk Walther and Canik have mastered the striker fired trigger....

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Hopefully I’ll be able to confirm that in a future video.

  • @angelovalavanis2314
    @angelovalavanis2314 Před 2 lety +1

    Went to the range this weekend with my brother and brought my P10 C. He brought his CZ P07 and Glock 19 Gen 5.
    I loved my piece of course and found new lust with the CZ P07.
    Can't say the same for the Glock though. First time holding one and firing it, after I emptied the clip I held my CZ P10 C and it fit like a glove in my grip.
    CZ P10 C foreva!
    PS. Ever since my brother bought a P10 C he can't wait to get rid of his Glock.

  • @joeblowfromidaho3642
    @joeblowfromidaho3642 Před 2 lety

    HR, I think you should carry that pistol. Man, are you shooting it well!!! 2 clicks downward on that dot and you're on at 21, yes?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Probably more like 5 or 6 clicks. Thanks Joe!

  • @M14Jeep
    @M14Jeep Před 2 lety

    Have used 2 different P10C and they both have absolutely zero creep. Also they both had very light and consistent trigger pulls. Yours is definitely defective. You should either send it back to CZ or sell it and buy a different P10

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Or just trade it for something else. Sooner or later I’ll decide what I want to do with it.

    • @M14Jeep
      @M14Jeep Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk The point of my comment is that you have hours of content about a broken P10C. As far as I can tell you've never shot a fully functional one. It would make for some interesting content if you got your hands on one that wasn't defective.

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 Před 2 lety

    The Czech made P-10C's, have a bit nicer of a trigger, than their American counter parts, IMO. Thanks for the share!!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Steven. I’ve heard that from other viewers too.

    • @stevenkennedy4130
      @stevenkennedy4130 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk Is yours US made?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevenkennedy4130 Yes, all the optics ready P10’s are made in the US.

    • @stevenkennedy4130
      @stevenkennedy4130 Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk copy.

  • @brianp9503
    @brianp9503 Před 2 lety +1

    I love mine . I shoot it better than everything else .

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin Před 2 lety

    You're ten times the marksman that I am, so you can ignore what I say. Maybe there is a trigger kit out there for that pistol that can improve the feel to make it more like your other pistols. Then you wouldn't have to adjust simply for that one gun. Or you can simply adjust for that one gun! LOL. With one exception, I don't think I have two guns with the exact same trigger feel. The exceptions are my M&P340 and 43C from Smith&Wesson. My finger simply can't tell the difference on those triggers. The 43C is several oz lighter though. That means I do need to consciously remember that I need to grip it as if I'm shooting 38/357 loads rather than 22LR. 22LR is so light that it is easy to get lazy. A good 38+P load will punish you for that!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety +1

      I might swap out the trigger in this pistol. I haven’t decided for certain yet. It annoys me to do that, though, since the trigger on the P10C was purportedly one of its strong points.

    • @Fudmottin
      @Fudmottin Před 2 lety

      @@hrfunk I totally get that. And I imagine it is quite possible that an aftermarket trigger kit ends up being worse than the OEM trigger.

  • @fivevs1
    @fivevs1 Před 2 lety +1

    A tough call for certain with limited safe space and funds. I let my p10c go partly because it didn't do anything my glock or m&p 9c 2.0 couldn't do and partly because it had mechanical reliability problems. If I was doing it today I'd likely flip the p10c for one of the new integrated comp pistols sig has or download payment on a nice 1911.

    • @fivevs1
      @fivevs1 Před 2 lety +1

      I will add that I do miss that gun and that's when I learned the "never sell" lesson lol.

  • @bondmanjbd
    @bondmanjbd Před 2 lety

    my p10c trigger is excellent as is my p10s trigger

  • @travischapin886
    @travischapin886 Před 2 lety +5

    Chief a Glock Fan Boy? I beg to differ, Sir. NO way in HELL will that ever happen, we started a game we never finished, Sir.

  • @steemerxaxon1643
    @steemerxaxon1643 Před rokem

    First person I have EVER heard of ANYONE not liking the Trigger... Because they are up with the PPQ/CANIK if not BETTER!!!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před rokem

      I recently purchased a Canik. It has a considerably better trigger than the P10.

    • @Catgat37
      @Catgat37 Před rokem

      @@hrfunk I think it is really personal preference on this. I love Caniks, but I like my P10C trigger more 🤷‍♂️

  • @RivenRock300
    @RivenRock300 Před 3 měsíci

    This must be a " Jealousy Gluck " owner . I have a P 10 C and P 10 F ,
    Both have excellent crisp triggers . None of that Gluck miserable triggers , that need upgrades.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 3 měsíci

      If you try a Canik pistol, you'll get a better idea of what I think a good trigger feels like.

  • @ronolson2024
    @ronolson2024 Před 2 lety

    1st off I hate creepy triggers. I've modified my Glock 20's trigger, the 1st & 2nd Gen CZ P10C's triggers, my XD(M)'s trigger, my Kimber Micro 9's trigger, my Springfield 1911 10mm Ronin Elite's trigger, and both my P365 & P365XL's triggers (The Sig's are the worst of the bunch). I guess I've turned into a trigger snob. I have not had to change my Ruger SR9C's trigger or my Shield Plus's trigger as they are fantastic out of the box and no modifications were necessary. (Ruger should have put the SR9C's trigger in the MAX 9). I've had both the 1st Gen CZ P10 C & the 2nd Gen P10 C. The 1st Gen was creepy & I hated it. After breaking 2 striker firing pins I sent it in & they sent me back a 2nd Gen P10 C which didn't have any trigger creep. Thank you CZ! As it still had the trigger safety hang up, I reinstalled the HB Industries trigger which not only got rid of the hang up, but also is a more comfortable wider trigger. If HR Funk can't get rid of the trigger creep, I'd sell it. If CZ can't or won't do anything with the trigger, I'm wondering if a new striker assy. would fix the problem as it did with my Sig P365XL's trigger. (A very creepy trigger) My Shield Plus Performance Center 4" ported barrel has a fantastic trigger and matches my 2nd Gen CZ P10 C's trigger. Both have fantastic triggers which are directly comparable to the PPQ, PDP, & VP9. Haven't shot the Canek's but everyone raves about how it has the best trigger of the striker assy. market pistols.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      The older I get, and the more firearms I handle and review, the less stock I place in the guns people rave about. The subject of this video is one of the many reasons for my skepticism.

  • @nomikes4392
    @nomikes4392 Před 2 lety

    I would have packed up and gone home after the first two shots

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Ha, ha! That thought might have crossed my mind.

  • @tommcqueen3145
    @tommcqueen3145 Před 2 lety

    👍

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm Před 2 lety

    Every shot is lower....
    Maybe adjust the dot?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      If I do, I’ll be hitting high at greater distances.

  • @blainecolbry3192
    @blainecolbry3192 Před 2 lety

    At this point in my life (59) I think I'm done with all the polymer guns and will just be collecting old classic lever guns, revolvers and 1911's. They have their place in carry pieces but for my casual range and backyard shooting I'm going to stick to the classics, steel and walnut.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      I don’t blame you one bit. Happy shooting Blaine.

  • @EHM0341
    @EHM0341 Před 5 měsíci

    LOL. Don't blame the gun for not being a tack driver. It was all you.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 5 měsíci

      Clearly, but that trigger certainly didn’t help.

  • @ronnstone7023
    @ronnstone7023 Před 2 lety

    You must have gotten a bad trigger. I suggest you try a different one or have CZ replace yours.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Před 2 lety

      Please watch this follow-up video when you have a couple of minutes: czcams.com/video/ZNEhvwkPeHU/video.html

  • @williamgrissom1995
    @williamgrissom1995 Před 2 lety

    I had a 2nd Gen P10-C and it had a great trigger. But even from a great brand you can get a lemon. But if I were you I'd just send it to Cajun gun works for their trigger job. Then you'd have an awesome experience with it. 😎👍

    • @Sirgromulus
      @Sirgromulus Před 2 lety +2

      The Cajun Performance Package is only $83 and easy to install. The main components include an extended tooled steel striker and lighter striker spring. Those two components can be installed in less than five minutes. I didn't care for the skinny factory trigger and dingus so I swapped it out for an HBI Theta trigger. I didn't even install the HBI trigger spring and still achieved a trigger pull of 3 1/4 - 3 1/2 lb pull with a short reset. My best and flattest shooting striker fired gun.