Wrexham AFC owners Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney buy stake in Liga MX's Club Necaxa
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Alexi Lalas and David Mosse discuss Wrexham AFC owners Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney buying a stake in Liga MX's Club Necaxa and what it may mean for North American soccer going forward. They also address how VAR and technology have become an important part of the game.
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Wrexham AFC owners Ryan Reynolds & Rob McElhenney buy stake in Liga MX's Necaxa
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What's your favorite episode from 'It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia'?
It’s the fan base. They are helping Americans see what the culture of the beautiful game really looks like
That's true, but Americans including me will always give our time to more than 1 sport. We just love sports in general which is why there are so many sports leagues making huge money with big stadiums in the US.
American soccer needs Promotion and Relegation. This can be a game changer.
Yes, certain areas of the USA like the Northern East Coast, California, Cascadia, Texas are big enough to basically have Leagues of their own.
Its what makes European Football so entertaining.
There's a lot rivalries within the city.
Wow. Talk about missing the point. This is helping grow American soccer in an unbelievable scale.
They invested in UK and Mexican soccer because they are not stupid, the world can name European and South American teams but would be hard pressed to name 1 US team.
That’s why we don’t know Mexican clubs. North America begins in Panama (at least, soccerly speaking).
@@prsanchoyou don’t know any Mexican clubs? Okay sure haha
@@Santi_Montez, I’m joking. I know plenty. I love soccer. The point was really making is that Mexico is in North America.
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P.S.: Just from the top of my head: America, Tigres, Cruz Azul, Chivas, Atlas, Necaxa, Monterrey, Morelia - and I’m ashamed of listing only 8. I should know more by heart.
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P.P.S.: Ok. I checked it. Morelia isn’t in Liga MX. Missing Toluca, Pachuca, Pumas, Santos, and León is unforgivable. Those 12 should pop immediately on my mind.
Then, in Liga MX alone, there are also Querétaro, Juarez, Atlético, Mazatlán, Puebla, and Tijuana. Those are harder to remember.
In Expansión, the only other club I know is Atlante, to be honest.
We're going to Miami ❤
Morelia is now mazatlán just in case you wanted to know ..team wise I mean
Your points are silly. Of course things like the Wrexham show help American soccer. Two years ago I could not have cared less about soccer in general. The show brought interest in the sport to me, and living in America, American soccer is the closest thing I have to be a part of.
It's Welsh football. #cluelesshost
It helps interest in soccer but not specifically American soccer and its top domestic league. It's great if you decide to take a look at American soccer and its domestic league but I'm not sure that this translates directly into that type of interest.
It’s always sunny in Necaxa would be lit
The show is the only reason why I give a dam about the sport to begin with, and I know I'm not alone on that.
The barrier to entry in American Sports is too high.
100%, you need half a billion to multiple billion dollars to set up or even buy a team with the 5 major sports in the US.
In my opinion, they invested in Mexico for the same reason the movie Goal was about a young impoverished Mexican underdog who made it in a struggling New Castle in the premier league. Likability to international audiences. I think the global audience would rather watch a Mexican underdog team succeed over a team from a country saturated with investors, with less football culture and a league held by Leo Messi.
if Rob & Ryan were to have a team in the US they are not going to MLS they will surely buy into USL and possibly try and force their hands to bring in pro/rel but even that is a long shot
I'm glad to see that MLS is getting humbled and is still being seen as the 2nd best league in North America. It's getting tiring seeing their antics in trying to get rid of any competition around them. Up Liga MX and up USL!
MLS are a strange creature. A league with so much potential that is holding itself back with absolutely arcane roster rules and a laughably low salary cap.
If they simply loosened up the rules and increased the salary cap significantly then they would catapult ahead in quality as a true top 10 league.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq I'm ok with MLS cannibalizing itself, as it gives time for USL to do a little catching up as they figure out pro/rel. I could see it being a top league + super league kinda thing giving them room to both be number 1 leagues in the US.
@rmmvw USL will serve as a development league at best. Them challenging MLS is like UFL challenging the NFL.
Pro/relegation has one giant issue and that's the U.S. Constitution and a very business-friendly US Supreme Court.
As an owner I just need 1 single judge in the USA to agree that forcing my club out of a league where I paid all appropriate fees to enter and taxpayer money was used to help get the team is unconstitutional.
The chances are nearly 100% that an owner can get a federal judge to strike down my team being relegated.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq You do have a point. They're still hammering out the details, but with the advent of broadcast revenues along with the slow uptick in attendance, it should make things a bit easier I'm sure. Of course the owners have to agree with the system and vote first before switching over to pro/rel. It's not something that can be decided unilaterally.
Another thing is that it could be something like how there are more viewers for American College Football than the NFL, where there's less talent, but more passion compared to more talent but less heart. I could see how that might draw some new viewers in.
@rmmvw MLS needs pressure so I'm rooting for USL to apply it and force change. I'm rooting for this new situation where La Liga plans to send their clubs over here for regular season match ups as well. If MLS is too stubborn to raise the salary cap because of comfort level then it's time for them to get uncomfortable.
As a long time fan of Club Necaxa, I welcome the participation of these investors. The team was iconic during the 90s and, after that, it went down hill. In fact, last year was one of its worse seasons despite commemorating its centennial. This season, they were literally one game away from making the playoffs, not to mention that one of their players, Cambindo, was one of a handful of players who scored the most goals in the season. Moving forward, if this means that my favorite team will be playing more games here in the US, I will be more than eager to go to as many games as possible.
To own a team in the mls cost $500m.
exactly, they just bought Wrexham for basically $1 USD. Since then, they've probably dumped $10 to $20 MM into it, along with their valuable time. In three or 4 more year, with another $100 to $200 MM capital added in, their team franchise value will likely be worth more than all but one or two MLS teams.
No one is suggesting they own an entire MLS team. 😂
Look at the list of athletes and celebrities who are minority owners of MLS teams like Will Ferrell who is minority owner of LAFC.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq yeah but to come in,change things, do a doco, rise in the ranks which is partly what the story would be based around can’t be done with no promotion/relegation from leagues and definitely can’t be done with a poultry 5/10% stake in a club…you get zero control for that lol and would still be tens of millions more, so there’s that 😂
Welcome To Wrexham does more for soccer in the US than the MLS and US Soccer. I mentioned soccer in the US (fan base)...not american soccer (development).
Some MLS owners are taking positive steps to progress American soccer but others seem very distant from that ideal. Here in Atlanta, Atlanta United is very involved with local soccer growth and offer free youth summer programs.
maybe bring a Mexican to Wales (Wrexham) in a transfer
Listen - I want to be a fan of Alexi’s, but asinine commentary like this really makes that difficult. So bad on so many levels. First, all of the demeaning, condescending “young men” references. Rob and Ryan are literally just a few years younger than Alexi is. Is that his way of trying to be funny or cute? It came off as weird and boorish. Secondly, all of the statements about it “not being good for American Soccer” - absolutely ridiculous. Who says they won’t invest in MLS at some point? Alexi has no frigging idea! This kind of commentary is really an embarrassment for Fox Soccer, and it’s why American Soccer viewers have “relegated” Fox down to the lower echelons of American Soccer broadcasting, below NBC/Peacock, below ESPN, and even below the new UCL upstarts CBS/Paramount. Fox Soccer is now the “EFL League Two” of American Soccer broadcasting… and if they’re not careful they’ll be more like the lowly “National League”.
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Between Welcome to Wrexham, Ted Lasso, and now Messi, I never really watched soccer regularly. So, that trifecta has really helped, and I've started keeping up with the mls now.
I was drinking, looking for a team to support in mexicos league, I know a many by name. but Ive never followed.i literally just chose necaxa for it's History. Now this. Let's go!!!
Its the fact that MLS has no relegation or promotion system that puts off Rob and Ryan. They have said loads of times that is what makes English league most appealing. You can make your way from the National league to the premier league. You don't have that in America. That's why the MLS will always be a business and not a sport.
too many headers when he played...
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American's are finally starting to come around to soccer. THAT'S their investment for the U.S. market. I never watched a full soccer game until the doc. Give it time.
And VAR is fine, but it could certainly be changed how it's used in the game.
They have said it before. What got them interested in English soccer was promotion and relegation.
I think each team should have 2-3 reviews for VAR but by coach’s decision. Instead of having everything checked. I miss the human error soccer use to have.
One of the biggest advantages of watching soccer over other American sports is that there are few breaks in the action, no commercial breaks and you can watch a game in 2 hours. VAR, game delays, super-late offsides calls and 10+ minutes of stoppage time are greatly reducing that advantage. I can't watch NFL anymore because it's inexplicably slow. MLB is making moves to speed the game up as viewership drops. I'm fine with VAR but it needs to go faster. They should be able to get the call right and do it quickly as well.
Ryan Reynolds’s is Canadian and the investment in the MLS is far far more expensive than in Mexico so why would he help American Soccer when he’s Canadian
USA soccer is way too expensive. I’m a long time Necaxa fan. They are a legendary yet extremely small team. Necaxa value is pennies compared to a billion dollars for an unknown team in the mls
R&R are on record as to why US soccer teams aren´t attractive to them. A stagnant system, not enough reach, etc. You could also ask my Reynolds isn´t buying a Canadian club but instead invested in a French F1 team with Ryan. They will go where the money is. Nacaxas is more interesting as they play in a league without a relegation system but both clubs bought a mutual share. 5% of Wrx was given away. This is a mutual investment and Wrx will need deep pockets to get out the Championship once it is reached and not even Renolds can afford a sustainable PL team. Big outside investment in WrxAFC needs to start somewhere and it seems to be now.
does american soccer have prom reg?
Riches are in niches.
Rob NEEDED Ryan’s money (according to the Wrexham documentary) to make that happened. Why would Ryan help American soccer??? He is CANADIAN. He has no reason to invest with an American team with all the annoying set of rules that the system has.
MLS investment is too High. Only billionaries can enter that club.
There is a lack of second tier on MLS, so American investors with money, but not billionaries are finding mid table and lower tier teams in Europe appealing.
Ryan is Canadian... Its called investment. Rob has already been trying to contribute to Union as much as he can. its not like he can walk into Union and say here's X amount of money make me a co chair. Thanks for the CLICK BATE
With all due respect American "soccer" is boring!
European soccer is waaaay better than American sports in general
@@ofenomeno1381 Basketball is cool and you know it.
American soccer doesnt do anything for American soccer. No promotions just another stale league
Because soccer has way less money than futbol.
Well apparently you have to be a billionaire to get into MLS.
Why invest into lower division US soccer when there's no pathway to MLS?
Clubs in Mexico are cheaper 😂 that's why they bought it. Necaxa is the same value as Thiago Almada who plays for Atlanta United.
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Hey lil buddy. I don’t know where you are getting your information…. Necaxa is valued at 200 million. Stadium, Brand, etc…. According to Sportico.
Now probably the value of all the roster is at 35 million last time I checked. 8 million over the over valued price of Almada. Which is kind of sad because Necaxa would probably give Atlanta pretty good lil beating in a game 😂
@@bmorui actually according to Hercules Gomez of ESPN, Necaxa was sold for 25 million, which buys you Thiago Almada and the price for the transfer. His example, not mine.
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Lalas is so stuck on American soccer. Dude. Can we just love the sport? Everyone will benefit. It's the world's game. Chill and enjoy!!!
Rob is Canadian, also MLS teams can’t compete internationally, great move Miami showing this as a retirement league and in Florida the retirement state lol
Rob is from Philly. Ryan is the Canadian one.
@@alexanderrose1071 true got the “R” confused 😂😂 cheers
Until MLS loosens their arcane roster rules and increases their salary cap they will continue to be embarrassed in international competition. It's sad as an MLS fan watching Messi have to play alongside teammates who make $400k salaries as starters and bench players who are at somewhere around $70-80k. Columbus Crew is the one giant anomaly in MLS.
America is overpriced. Thats why