This was helpful, especially advantages section. There's so much info in the ultralight community in how to avoid carrying these that I've never heard the pros, only the cons. I'm on in the Appalachians near Mt Rogers and we have so many bears here now that I'm considering one of these even as an ultralight 10ish lb base weight backpacker. The stool concept is awesome and I'd love to carry some less dense food options. All those bars and cold soaked backpaer meals are so dense it always hurts my stomach. Chips backpacking?! Awesome!
Thank you for the video. I really appreciate the good sound, the clear English and the fact that you got down to business telling me exactly what I was hoping to get from your video. Every slack jawed gawker on CZcams doing reviews or product information videos should take notes from this video.
Very informative, and even though this video is a few years old I still very much appreciated the info. I am, however, a bit concerned about humans making off with a bear canister... I guess it depends on where you set up camp and how many non-familiar people pass by and see your camp. The canister doesn't exactly blend into the surroundings and is easily seen from a bit of a distance, picked up and walked off with while you are inside your tent. Guess it's just one of the risks involved with hiking.
Okay regarding using the canister as a bucket... what do you do to keep a bear from wandering into your camp while you've emptied your food and toiletries out and taken a walk down to the water source?
....and sneaky. I had one one time that would wait for me to turn my back. It turned into a game of "red light green light" around my campfire. I had to make sure my bear bag was hung up even if I reached into my tent to grab an item, or if I was gathering firewood. They are so smart....this one also figured out how to defeat a PCT style hang by just cutting the rope at the base where I had it staked in. So the next night I used a pulley setup that was 40' up, and was anchored to three trees- he worked all night and almost got it. Sadly they had to put that bear down.....as they say a fed bear is a dead bear:-(. Such cool animals too!
I'm a novice but I can't get my head around the fact that if the bear can't get food out of the canister, he'll come to the tents for human food. See the movie "Backcountry". I'm not going anywhere near bear country. If a bear is hungry, rarely, will anything stop him. Okay, maybe a machine gun, but even then he's got time left to do damage. A big spear? I ain't no warrior.
@@Quran4mercy No we don’t, bears generally don’t hunt humans and are actually very timid in most scenarios. A very minor amount, of the 10’s of bears deaths that happen in the U.S are considered predatory deaths and even then they’re only labeled as such because we can’t prove that a bear didn’t knock them over and accidentally kill them in a defense charge. A Polar Bear is most likely to try and eat you out of desperation because food is scarcer in Arctic environments and with global warming it’s only getting worse. Unless you live in northern Canada or Alaska you’ll probably be okay.
Why do rangers in campgrounds tell you to stay near your food thus the bears will not come near it. i.e. while your cooking. If bears are scared of you when cooking or awake why are they all of a sudden aggressive to you when your sleeping? I have never heard of a bear attacking a person for their food (awake or sleeping) other than the crazy bear that thought of you as food or a startled protecting their young or a kill. Am I wrong or is the bear canister industry (with the help of our mommy and daddy government) whipping up this fear or just profits? It is true that they will go after your food when not around (and other varmints) but I always sleep with my food and only bring a stool, I mean bear canister, when mandated by wherever I’m backing.
I got a Coleman 2 gallon cooler wrapped in duct tape- cost 15 bucks... Works just as good! Fools people on the trail all the time- they say WOW cool bear container.. Who makes it?
That bear can isn't the best. Some bears can figure out how to unscrew the lid. There are "child proof" versions out there, with recessed security tabs (the good ones are designed so that bears can latch onto them). Also, putting the toothpastw/brush into the bear can as you did is not good, since a bear can smell that. Everything, including trash, must go into an airtight container.
This was helpful, especially advantages section. There's so much info in the ultralight community in how to avoid carrying these that I've never heard the pros, only the cons.
I'm on in the Appalachians near Mt Rogers and we have so many bears here now that I'm considering one of these even as an ultralight 10ish lb base weight backpacker. The stool concept is awesome and I'd love to carry some less dense food options. All those bars and cold soaked backpaer meals are so dense it always hurts my stomach. Chips backpacking?! Awesome!
Thank you for the video. I really appreciate the good sound, the clear English and the fact that you got down to business telling me exactly what I was hoping to get from your video. Every slack jawed gawker on CZcams doing reviews or product information videos should take notes from this video.
Good video, I'm not in bear country so I was always wondering what they really did
This was really informative to me. I am in the learning phase for hiking the JMT in two more years.
Did you ever hike JMT? Curious how it went!
tHANKS MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO. PLANNING A 4 DAY GETAWAY.....VERY INFORMATIVE
Very informative, and even though this video is a few years old I still very much appreciated the info. I am, however, a bit concerned about humans making off with a bear canister... I guess it depends on where you set up camp and how many non-familiar people pass by and see your camp. The canister doesn't exactly blend into the surroundings and is easily seen from a bit of a distance, picked up and walked off with while you are inside your tent. Guess it's just one of the risks involved with hiking.
Nice tips ! i also had marmots trying to get at my food. Canister worked perfectly.
Okay regarding using the canister as a bucket... what do you do to keep a bear from wandering into your camp while you've emptied your food and toiletries out and taken a walk down to the water source?
maybe put it in a bag and take it with you?
Excellent points!
So helpful!
You can't safely leave your food unsecured around camp while you are using your canister for a water bucket, Bears are fast.
....and sneaky. I had one one time that would wait for me to turn my back. It turned into a game of "red light green light" around my campfire. I had to make sure my bear bag was hung up even if I reached into my tent to grab an item, or if I was gathering firewood. They are so smart....this one also figured out how to defeat a PCT style hang by just cutting the rope at the base where I had it staked in. So the next night I used a pulley setup that was 40' up, and was anchored to three trees- he worked all night and almost got it. Sadly they had to put that bear down.....as they say a fed bear is a dead bear:-(. Such cool animals too!
Very useful video
They have a new sturdy lightweight fiberglass that isn't so heavy.
Nice tips
question for you, if i am in an rv, do i have to store all my food in my vehicle or do the same as if i were backpacking.
well done
I'm a novice but I can't get my head around the fact that if the bear can't get food out of the canister, he'll come to the tents for human food.
See the movie "Backcountry".
I'm not going anywhere near bear country. If a bear is hungry, rarely, will anything stop him. Okay, maybe a machine gun, but even then he's got time left to do damage.
A big spear? I ain't no warrior.
The point of the canister is that you store ALL of your food in it. Things that smell like the lotion, sunscreen, or toothpaste as well.
@@Holy_Discourses
Yes, but humans smell like food, too, to a bear?
@@Quran4mercy No we don’t, bears generally don’t hunt humans and are actually very timid in most scenarios. A very minor amount, of the 10’s of bears deaths that happen in the U.S are considered predatory deaths and even then they’re only labeled as such because we can’t prove that a bear didn’t knock them over and accidentally kill them in a defense charge. A Polar Bear is most likely to try and eat you out of desperation because food is scarcer in Arctic environments and with global warming it’s only getting worse. Unless you live in northern Canada or Alaska you’ll probably be okay.
Do you carry that big bear can in ur backpack???
Yep
How heavy are they?
I am very concerned about weight.
2lbs 3oz.
Why do rangers in campgrounds tell you to stay near your food thus the bears will not come near it. i.e. while your cooking. If bears are scared of you when cooking or awake why are they all of a sudden aggressive to you when your sleeping? I have never heard of a bear attacking a person for their food (awake or sleeping) other than the crazy bear that thought of you as food or a startled protecting their young or a kill. Am I wrong or is the bear canister industry (with the help of our mommy and daddy government) whipping up this fear or just profits?
It is true that they will go after your food when not around (and other varmints) but I always sleep with my food and only bring a stool, I mean bear canister, when mandated by wherever I’m backing.
I got a Coleman 2 gallon cooler wrapped in duct tape- cost 15 bucks... Works just as good! Fools people on the trail all the time- they say WOW cool bear container.. Who makes it?
That bear can isn't the best. Some bears can figure out how to unscrew the lid. There are "child proof" versions out there, with recessed security tabs (the good ones are designed so that bears can latch onto them). Also, putting the toothpastw/brush into the bear can as you did is not good, since a bear can smell that. Everything, including trash, must go into an airtight container.