Foley Belsaw Sawmill Overview

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  • čas přidán 25. 03. 2019
  • A reasonably comprehensive overview of the physical properties of an old Foley-Belsaw model A14 circular sawmill is what's described. There is a brief description of improvements to the head blocks and dogging system as well as discussion of adding a third head block and why that is so beneficial.
    One repair not covered was the carriage wheels that had to be fabricated on the metal lathe due to the originals having been rusted/rotted away. New axles had to be made and bored to allow greasing as well. Just a brief description of the old Oliver 88 is included but not covered to any extent in this video.....It will be highlighted in a 'first start' video soon.
    Also there is an admission that the milling that comes off this mill is not perfect by any means as more 'tweaking' and adjustments are required. But every time it is used, we get a little better results. Admittedly, the blade needs serious service...hammered for the correct rpm and new bits and shanks are needed as well in 48" the inserted tooth blade.
    Here's a 1:39 clip of the old mill in action with a small cedar: • Belsaw A14 Circular Mi...
    Here's 9 minutes of my son in law running it on another cedar: • Cedar Log Being Milled...
    Here's 9 minutes of me running it on yet another cedar: • Cedar Log Being Milled...
    Like I said...it sure ain't perfect but it is certainly a LOT of fun and that's all I care about...
    If you took the opportunity to watch any of the suggested videos, let me clarify a point. That point being that I am fully aware of the exposed power take off shaft and ALL the horror stories about this guy or that guy that ripped off an arm or leg or got killed by one. I have been working around pto driven and belt driven machinery since I was literally 5 years old and never have I ever been caught in one nor have I ever came in serious contact with one. I'm talking sawmills, feed mills, silage blowers, hammer mills, combines, hay balers, huge commercial planers and air handlers with up to six belt sheaves and 75 hp motors to name just a few. You'd think in more than 60 years in and around such equipment a fellow like me would be missing at the least a few fingers...but no, that is not the case. So please if you've an inclination to point out to me how dangerous this or that is concerning the pto....just look for a minute at the 48" diameter blade flying around at 540 rpm literally 3 feet from my (or the sil's) face. LOL. I think you'll realize then the ridiculous nature of pointing out the danger of the exposed shaft. So, if you think this is dangerous, my suggestion to you is to try crossing the street in Dublin, Ireland AFTER the stop light turns green...... and please DON'T buy a Foley Belsaw sawmill.
    Life is for living to the fullest, not for complaining about others.LOL.
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  • @b.p.650
    @b.p.650 Před rokem

    Thank you, you really represent us sawdust makers well…

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před rokem

      Thanks B.P. for the kind words. I have actually sold that little mill a couple weeks ago, but I still have a few others circle mills back in the woods. The largest and most complete is a 60'' mill with a 3-71 Detroit power unit. I didn't know how bad the wind would effect the sound until it was too late. Here's an old video on my SIL's channel of this little Belsaw: czcams.com/video/x2NMojV5BG8/video.html

  • @billfischer6464
    @billfischer6464 Před 5 lety +2

    I didn't know mills set up like that existed. That's a neat mill, I would think it would take a stout, strong tractor to run. thanks and cant wait until the next video. I really appreciate your knowledge and love to hear the stories behind things.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Thank you Bill, for the kind words sir. They put these old thing on wooden frames, truck frames or just about any thing you can think of for support. This is the only one I've ever seen on a set of bar joists and as easily made mobile as is this one. It has a tongue on one end, lift the bed into the air with a loader and slide a temporary axle of your choosing under it (after removing the blade), then hook onto it with the tractor and take it where ever you want to go. I'll get into a little more detail on the old Ollie when its turn for a 'freshening up' comes up on the clock...but it is a 265 cu in 6 cylinder overhead valve engine and it has plenty of guts for this little mill. Thank you sir for taking the time to watch and as always, I appreciate your interest and comments.

    • @captdonaldlowesr.5285
      @captdonaldlowesr.5285 Před 4 lety

      Tractorman44 What size is the cable for the carriage drive. I’m trying to set up a M14 and don’t have the cable

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      @@captdonaldlowesr.5285 Darn, I missed notification of your reply. It is a 3/8 cable, but I'm sure by now you've been up and running quite a while. Thanks for the question...I apologize for missing it earlier. Take Care and have a wonderful week Capt Lowe.

  • @stubby4317
    @stubby4317 Před rokem

    I have an older one yet. The carriage is riveted together! It was originally driven with a flat belt and was on a wood frame. I like how you did your dogs. I've put it on a steel frame and drive a hydraulic pump off the mandrel which drives a hydraulic motor on the carriage winch. I haven't ran it in years so I'm hoping this inspires me!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před rokem

      I love old circle mills. I have recently sold this one, but the heavy duty dogs were the absolute best think I did. However instead of the flat gears I would just do a round eccentric on a beefed up headblock. Those thin ones are nothing but a joke !! I like what you described for the hydraulic motor. I still have several other mills and will piece together a good one eventually. One has a 3-71 Detroit power unit and 60'' blade. Good luck Stubby and thanks for stopping by. Oh, in the meantime I bought a Frontier band mill. An OS27.

  • @anzaal
    @anzaal Před 3 lety

    If your not a "sawyer" you must be the next best thing ! Thanks for your restoration work and sharing !

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      Hahahaha...thank you for the awesome words of encouragement !! Wait until the big one starts going back together....Its got a 3-71 Detroit two stroke diesel power plant and 60'' insert tooth. Thanks for the comment and for watching !!

  • @loggerjohn01
    @loggerjohn01 Před 5 lety

    I love watching saw mills working. We had a neighbor with a saw mill like this and traveled around the country sawing for people. he sawed a lot of stuff for my dad . He had a huge Cockshutt tractor that he ran it with. Good memories .

  • @daveyjoweaver5183
    @daveyjoweaver5183 Před 4 lety

    A much enjoyed video with this old mill and Oliver! I saw that cuppaJO sittin three on the saw and what a great tool indeed. And like my mentors wife with a sign in her kitchen stated, I'm not a slow cook and not a fast cook but a half fast cook. I think this is a fine compromise! Thank You Kindly Half Fast TM44 from DaveyJO tippin you inna morning!

  • @LouisianaTractorworks
    @LouisianaTractorworks Před 5 lety

    Wendel, that sawmill is like us. Old but still working!! LOL That big mill sound like it will be nice for milling a lot of trees! The Ollie is nice. Can't wait to see it fired up! Have a good one and I hope you don't get any bad weather!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Good Morning John...yes, I'M old, but you....not so much. LOL. I just hope both of us get a LOT older. Yessir, that old Ollie is a fine tractor but the wide front is the rear steering off of a combine and it is not cool at all. I've got an old 77 tricycle parts tractor that is going to donate the front end to this old guy here.

  • @marcusm4271
    @marcusm4271 Před 5 lety +2

    Best 32 seconds of my day. Thanks again TM44

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 Před 5 lety +1

      Me too! ( I'm smiling though, when I say this! )

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      @@regsparkes6507 There's just something that draw a guy to an old circular mill like bears are drawn to honey.... hahahahaha right??

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Good Morning Marcus...how's things across the pond today ?? Glad you stopped by and took a look at the old thing !! Don't be a stranger sir. Thanks for the comment.

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 Před 5 lety

      @@tractorman4461 Yes,...you got it!

  • @Tonnsfabrication
    @Tonnsfabrication Před 3 lety

    Its awesome that you saved it from sinking back into the earth, just preserving anything from the old ways means so much to many of us out here. It's a shame the blades cost so much, prolly why there is so little interest in their preservation, that and every other old boy out there has built or bought a bandsaw mill.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      I am sorry to have missed your comment. I just found it in the spam folder. Yes, I truly enjoy saving machinery of all kinds from being destroyed. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate your time.

  • @donaldlewis9734
    @donaldlewis9734 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Lot of good information there.Thanks

  • @FromSteelToWood
    @FromSteelToWood Před 5 lety +1

    Nice story with the Foley-Belsaw! Clicked the link in the description. Even saw a comment on your son in law's video where one of the youtuber's comment was about his wife working for that company in the 70's. Small world! This is a lot of view 3.5M! All your videos come with a bonus. The bonus is in the description! Especially the safety part! I am a safety fan. But I am not into stupid safety stuff. You have your 2 hands, each of them 5 fingers, expected lenths... It speaks credibility! Lol! Thanks Wendell!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +2

      My son in law says "Safety is a personal choice and personally I like to be safe." That pretty much says it all and I too subscribe to that theory. Some of the commentors (not on my channel yet, but on many others) make the silliest of remarks and it drives me crazy. Most of the time, especially on my later videos I often make pre-emptive disclaimers in the description to hopefully dissuade those 'Negative Nellies' or 'Safety Sallies' from making those comments. But I try to do so with the people like yourself that deal with safety on a daily basis in mind and try to not insult your thoughts at the same time. Hahahahaha on that point I certainly hope I am succeeding !!
      In my 40 + years in mechanical construction and service I have been in the proximity of some serious accidents that could have been avoided with just the most basic measures. Recently at a different company there was an apprentice heavy equipment 'oiler' that didn't communicate with the operator correctly and got wrapped in the cable on the drum behind the cab in a huge crane. He died within minutes on site or possibly enroute to the hospital. Those deaths and those types of death are totally avoidable with a little training and following protocol. The apprentice either wasn't quite ready or the operator didn't hear...but at any rate, lack of communication was the key. There's not a time I turn on a key or hit an electrical control that thoughts of where my fingers, hands and eyes are in relation to the potential movement of whats being turned on. Awareness is the key. Thank you Joe for your continued visits to watch my videos and to listen to my endless drivel. And thank you for commenting all the time sir !! Oh...and thank you for the compliment and am sincerely glad you like the descriptions sir.

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress Před 5 lety +1

      @@tractorman4461 Good evening Wendel, I totaly agree with you Wendell on your comments ! Communication, Awareness and training !!!

    • @FromSteelToWood
      @FromSteelToWood Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks! I totally agree. One basic rule working in team: eye contact! I see so often where I work (day job) employes walking near a forklift without even establishing eye contact. Basic rule. Saves 99% of possible accidents.

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress Před 5 lety +1

      @@FromSteelToWood Yes Joe, very well said ! Eye contact and teamwork !!! Definitively toward safety practices at various workplaces !!!

    • @21mph12
      @21mph12 Před 5 lety +3

      Safety is important, and I do choose to be safe. Like anything though, a one-size-fits-all approach isn't practical. The things FIL will do on occasion are often things that would put me in a hospital were I to do them. The rules that would apply to me are not the same rules that apply to him. Those rules vary based on experience, training, and knowledge (maybe even in that order), and for me to lecture him on safety would be akin to a caveman teaching a Millenial how to use Instagram. There have been times when I've been like "uhhhhh, should you do really do that?" and he'll just grin at me and say something like "Oh yeah, it'll be fine." 😁

  • @manuallabor7193
    @manuallabor7193 Před 5 lety

    I love all the videos. It does not matter the content.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Hahahaha for that...I am glad sir. I do have a tendency to talk too much. hahahaha. Thank you sir for watching.

  • @akquilter3519
    @akquilter3519 Před 5 lety

    Another descriptive narrative on the sawmill. It is my understanding there is a sawmill on the island west of here but having never been there I don't know for sure. If I ever get to see it, I will let you know. Keep up the good story telling.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Heck yeah that'd be cool if you'd be able to take some digital pics of the set up. There's a thousand ways to set up different mills. I can't wait to get to work on setting up the big one. But that's going to be a while yet. LOL Of course huh. Too many government jobs.....

  • @fricknjeep
    @fricknjeep Před 3 lety

    hi there stuck in then house not cause of the cold mud mud mud . just ah watching Y/T and stumbled a pond this good old saw . they cur many a board foot of lumber another good one john

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      Man I hate mud !! Snow is much better, but its just mud in the making.... Yes, there were tons of these old Belsaws out there. This is only the second I've seen on bar joists.

  • @marksparkplug7758
    @marksparkplug7758 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for the description of the sawmill buddy, it was just another case of getting it done in the day.
    I would be sawing every day and have buildings everywhere, if the wife would let me and the old body would keep up lol. Take care. Still throwing some wood in stove just not as fast 22 deg this morning.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +2

      I grew up around the mill starting out under the carriage making sure the sawdust wouldn't clog up off the edges of the sawdust elevator by the time I was 7 or 8 at the oldest. Sawing is fun as it can be and to me much more fun than throwing a chainsaw around all day. 32F this morning and expecting 68 later today. I do have a little softwood fire going to knock off the chill a bit though. I used to tell the kids all the time: "We don't care what the momma won't allow.....We're gonna do it any how"..... hahahaha true story !! It worked too....sometimes. Thanks Mark for the comment sir.

  • @RCAFpolarexpress
    @RCAFpolarexpress Před 5 lety +3

    Good day Wendel, I saw and comments all the links videos that you have into your description made from you and your son and I REALLY LIKE TO SEE that Oliver tractor fire up !!! LOL I can't wait to see that 2 strokes Detroit diesel, since we used to have a lots of theses engines around in the military various branch ( Air, Army and Navy ). Cheers ! and your Dad has one of the kind !!! ( Smart !!! )

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +2

      I can't wait to fire up the old Detroit again. It is a screamer !!!! Its going to take a lot of planning before I start to rebuild the big mill though. Either concrete piers or retaining wall for the the support of the 48' bed...pad for the cab assembly and another one for the power unit....whew. I'm tired already !! I may have to bend your ear for a place to find a manual on the old Detroits as for now I have nothing to go on but gut feelings. Gotta finish up a few other major projects first....like my shed for one....LOL. Thanks Dave for the compliment and may I add that you and Joe are TWO of a kind !!

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress Před 5 lety +2

      @@tractorman4461 Thank you Wendel for the nice comment but your the Master of the Kind !!! or King !!! LOL Cheers !!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +2

      @@RCAFpolarexpress Hahahahahaha...you crack me up Dave. It is so great that you and Joe stop by for a visit...I truly enjoy the "Canadian Connection"...!!!

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress Před 5 lety +2

      @@tractorman4461 Hahahhah LOL !!! That's a good one !!!! Cheers !!!

  • @terryluebbe2560
    @terryluebbe2560 Před 5 lety

    Interesting contraption. Thanks for sharing.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      It is certainly a lot different from band saw mills of today and is much more wasteful due to the width of the kerf...but there's just a mesmerizing feel to standing just a few feet from that singing blade. She sings like a siren from the deep calling a guy to her. When you get it bad is when you don't want to eat...you don't want to sleep..all you want to do is saw lumber !! Thanks for watching and commenting Terry. Don't be a stranger sir.

  • @armandolazcano7005
    @armandolazcano7005 Před 4 lety

    Good description, I wish I can put my hands on one of those circular sawmill, if I see one I will buy.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 4 lety

      Armando Lazcano too bad you don’t live close. I may sell this one to you. And I’ve got another one for sale as well. It’s not a Belsaw though. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @zachjohnson4121
    @zachjohnson4121 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Love you old timers!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      Hahahahaha.....heck I'm only 40.....I've just had a hard life !! LOL Actually.... I AM 40...but you have to add almost 30 more to it !! Thanks Zach for the comment. They stuck it in the spam folder and I just found it holed up with about 80 others.

  • @WildBill1122
    @WildBill1122 Před 5 lety

    Very neat old mill.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Hey Wild Bill....How you doing this evening sir !!?? Good to see you again. I'm glad you enjoyed the old mill. Stop by anytime man.

  • @gatorsworld
    @gatorsworld Před 5 lety +1

    You're very humble about your skills TractorMan....like your old footage....tornadoes....don`t like them....not use to that here....interesting video....CHEERS

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      We did end up with some serious clouds and waterfall but nothing bad at all. Thank you Gator for the compliment. I found out long ago that its easier to be humble beforehand than it is to eat that nasty stuff called 'humble pie' down the road. LOL !!

  • @ButlerOutdoorsCanada
    @ButlerOutdoorsCanada Před 3 lety

    That's an awesome mill sir!! I'm excited to get the one we have under the snow going! I'm not a sawer ither but everyone starts somewhere sometime! Speaking of saws.... Please do a video on your model 99 mac lol I often stop and wonder about that beast and what it must be like! Thanks for sharing Wendel!

  • @maisyholly
    @maisyholly Před 3 lety +1

    Hello from Dubuque -- good job on the video

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      Good Morning John...the wind was blowing pretty hard that day. Thanks for watching and commenting....Here's a video we put on my son in laws channel a couple years ago if you'd like to see it running right after we got it put back together: czcams.com/video/x2NMojV5BG8/video.html

  • @GrampiesWorkshop
    @GrampiesWorkshop Před 5 lety

    Hey there Wendel!! That's some nice saw mill. I'd love to have that in the yard. The siding on my camp was cut with a circular saw, well most of it was. It seems the newer mills, at least around here, are all band saws. Great looking saw and I hope you can get her flashed up and cut some logs!!! Thanks for sharing...

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +1

      Oh heck yeah, I'll get the old thing going here before too long. I just picked up some blue spruce last week have had a small pile of red cedar waiting for a year or so. There aren't too many circular mills left around here at all. The few mills I know about are all band mills as well. It is a fun toy....er...aaaaahhhh....TOOL, yeah tool, to play with in the back yard. LOL. Thanks Mike for watching and hey...I went over to your buddy Kirk's place and what did I watch..?? The sawmill one of course, to start with....

  • @b.p.650
    @b.p.650 Před rokem

    Hello thanx for the quick response, I have a belsaw as well with three head blocks it’s not meant to be a big production as you know but as you said it’s a great farm or hobby mill
    And I have a O frick with a 333c cat , and the one I enjoy the most is a OO frick with a 3/71 Detroit as well, I’ve been wanting to put a UD 9 on it for noise reduction when I was a kid dad had a UD 24 on his. Now days I’m more of a collector than an operator…..
    I’m in swpa
    Thanx again

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před rokem

      Yep, you nailed it on the usefulness of the Belsaw. I'm not sure of the brand of ANY of the other mills, but I think one might be a Frick judging by the setworks. Another one has De Loach on one of the castings. I have a buddy that ran his with a big old CAT along with a DC generator and he powered all the 12v lights in his sawmill shed with it when sawing at night. You got some cool stuff B.P.

  • @ronrabenhorst6027
    @ronrabenhorst6027 Před 5 lety

    Nice info. Thanks.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Hey Ron !! Your comment almost snuck right by me !! Thanks for taking a look at it. It'll be a bit neater to watch running instead of me talking about it though... lol.

  • @tennesseesawmillguy1590

    Great video. I'd like to have that six cylinder running my mill.
    Those Olivers sound great.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      There IS something about that 6 banger hum ain't there. I have a couple 77's but they don't have the oomph of this 88 !! I went and watched all you videos to date and noticed you were pulling with a older blue belly 4000. Am I thinking right that thats a 172 or 174 cu in 4 cylinder for the early years then they went the three cylinder route.....?? The old 88 is a 265 cu in. for comparison.

    • @tennesseesawmillguy1590
      @tennesseesawmillguy1590 Před 5 lety

      Yeah . I'm underpowered, so I run my blade on half of the bits. The other half are old ones. It takes less power that way.

    • @shealdedmon7104
      @shealdedmon7104 Před 3 lety

      I've got questions. I'm looking at a M14 right now it's been out in a field for a couple of years now but was running about a year ago. My main two questions are will my 1971 ford 4000 run it ok and what would be a good offer on it?

  • @DIYMyWay
    @DIYMyWay Před 5 lety

    Hi Wendell! What an amazing old sawmill! Your home made log dogs are really ingenious. BTW, I have to disagree with your old man. I haven’t seen you do anything “half-assed”. Thanks for sharing another of your old treasures!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Thank you sir for the kind comments once again. For being a light duty little mill it really can spit out the lumber once its dialed in a little bit better. Thanks again for watching Martin.

  • @GPOutdoors
    @GPOutdoors Před 5 lety

    Good morning T! Another enjoyable and educational coffee. If you keep this up, I am going to start expecting a new lesson every morning! LOL. It certainly looks daunting to see such a big blade and piece of equipment working off the back of a tractor but it all works well. Is that a coffee you have sitting there on the relief table behind you? Now that will be one big project to get it all fired up again but would certainly be an interesting one. Being half - fast is a compliment. It means you don't go too slow and try to gold -plate things way too much, and you're not so fast as to work without thoughtful calculation. Kind of like the 3 bears. It's just right. :)) Enjoy the day kind sir and keep the sunny side up. Cheers!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Well GP, every morning when Goldilocks sends me to my shed she reminds me to be careful and do things just right.... lol. Unfortunately my videos are not real regular and I have no real way to do that...like I told John at Louisiana Aquaponics the other day...regularity is for planes, trains and bowel movements. Yet another bit of wisdom passed from the old man who lived by the sun, moon and the Farmers Almanac....and REFUSED to change his clocks to "communist time".... LOL. Thank you sir for your time to watch and as always thank you for the insightful and kind comment. And yes, that is my morning cup of JO sitting there in the doubled up McDonalds cups.... LOL. Keen eye you have there.

  • @LogHewer
    @LogHewer Před 3 lety

    Do you have any idea how dangerous that is?!
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    I'm kidding. 😂 Most fun things are a bit dangerous. But I read your description and couldn't resist. I can recall distinctly that every time specific relatives would say goodbye to me, they'd say "You be careful around that sawmill, now." I appreciated the concern, but knew very well what I was getting into. These mills are addictive. Once it's dialed in, it makes a bandmill feel like a toy. Awesome work!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety +1

      LOL. I appreciate the humor William. I am glad to see you read my description. I have a tendency to go a bit 'overboard' on those sometimes. But its all in good fun !! Sometimes I try to 'troll' the trolls before they troll me.... You know, I've got a big mill to set up and I've been toying with the idea of picking up a cheap bandsaw to tide me over in the meantime. And you're right...sawmilling is addictive. Thanks for the comment sir.

  • @houndsmanone4563
    @houndsmanone4563 Před 5 lety +1

    Good story about the wood Sawmill. We just got some 1"x12" rough-cut oak for building stables and that wood is heavier than anything I had to lift. I'm not as strong as once before but love that rough-cut oak. Good cutting machine that Belsaw seems to be. Liked the old footage. Seemed like your dad was a fun character. Full-watch and a enjoyed it. Later Wendell. 👍 Don

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Good morning Don. Thanks for tuning in this morning. Yes, the old man had his moments.hahaha. A 1x12 oak is just as you described it..... doggoned heavy. Especially if its green and more than 8' long !! We'd saw some monsters on the old mill at home. Fisher and Davis cab assembly and setworks with 54" inserted tooth blade. One of the cants took the last joint of my uncles finger off on the head block....but that's another story. hahahaha Thanks again sir. SF my friend.

  • @DarrenMalin
    @DarrenMalin Před 2 lety

    thank you :)

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 2 lety

      You're welcome Darren...I'm putting it on FB Marketplace soon.

  • @copperworks
    @copperworks Před 5 lety +2

    That thing is great. I hope to make a bandsaw mill sometime soon.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Thank you for the favorable comment !! It is a fun little mill to play with and it performs well with cedars, walnuts, cherry and maple, but due to the shortcomings of the blade it does not do well with hardwoods. I too would love to eventually build a moderate sized bandmill, but don't know if it will happen. Thanks for watching !! I do have some cedar lined up for the mill right now.

    • @copperworks
      @copperworks Před 5 lety

      Tractorman44 what state are you in? Im on Longisland NEWYORK with every storm we get there is tons of wood around. My friend ownes a commercial saw mill and does a lot of oak.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      @@copperworks I'm right off the Mississippi river just south of St Louis Mo. Man those commercial mills tear it up !! I can't imagine running one of those whether its an old circular mill or a newer band mill.

    • @copperworks
      @copperworks Před 5 lety

      Tractorman44 it runs with a big diesel. A few years ago a carbide came off and went right thru the guys safety glasses. Where I live there are too many people property is limited taxes are chasing people out of here. I have family in other states that live better.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      @@copperworks Yes, too many people make things difficult sometimes. The big mill I will be assembling in the future will be powered by a 3-71 Detroit two stroke diesel running a 60" blade.

  • @daveyjoweaver5183
    @daveyjoweaver5183 Před 5 lety

    It's like this little cast iron trivet my mentors wife had hanging on her kitchen wall and it said, "I'm not a slow cook, I'm not a fast cook, I'm a half fast cook". I think you can apply this to anything. Besides Tractorman44, too slow you won't get things done and too fast will stress you out and kill ya. So in my book half fast is just the right speed, eh? I think I could watch a saw mill working all day. The old steam powered saw mill at Rough and Tumble I could watch a long time. It's belt driven and powered by an old steam tractor but I can't remember the brand of tractor. I think you could live in one of those old steam power tractor cabs. You could travel and cook you food up at the same time. And belt drive about anything you needed. I Love to see how old things work and how cleaver people were in designing machinery. It is why old tools are so nice to use. I was at a pin lick auction where they have an early 1900s 24" planer set up in a milling shed. Huge gears and a huge electric motor. No guards and all opened gears and cogs, levers and a big oil can sitting there. I don't take chances with machinery and have all my fingers. A guy to me once that a good carpenter has a finger or two missing, at least the tip of a few. I said no, a stumped carpenter lacks fingers. Besides, I play guitar and need my fingers. Anyway, back to the planer. This machine weighed lots, all cast iron and the wheels were three feet in diameter and it sold for a hundred bucks, cheap! I seriously entertained the thought of buying it until the thought of moving it out of that shed and where to put it at home in my much smaller shop came to mind. And I think it was an Oliver if I remember. I know you certainly wouldn't wear lose fitting close around this machine and it would be a project making guards for the thing. I think and Amish guy bought but how he dealt with getting it home I don't know. There is an Amish shop close by that turns any electric motor into air power. They manufacture parts themselves. Of course they will use diesel powered generators like my friend Leroy uses for his weld shop. Boy, I strayed off again but in a half fast action. Godda be careful! Thanks for your video and how it works. And I think if you cut a piece of plywood and nail on a bunch of those toothed strips from wax paper and foil, you could make a blade for that baby far less than $2500. Or just mount a big bush hog wheel on it and whack out those boards. I could write a book on stumped ideas but I still have my fingers. Hummmm, some barbed wire wrapped around a plywood wheel stapled on the edge might be better. See, my ideas are improving. Now after all this thought I need a cuppaJO. So a Lovely Half Fast Wednesday to ya Tractorman44! DaveyJO in Pa.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety +1

      I just sold a 24" monstrous planer last summer. I'm drawing a blank for the moment on the brand but it too was about 100 years old and manufactured right here in St Louis Mo. It hadn't moved 30 miles in its whole life. I also have a 24" JT Towesly that was a 3 phase direct drive machine, the motor mounting flange is still on the machine iirc... It had been converted to a 5 hp single phase induction start motor that drew 72 amps while planing wide oak, ash or hickory. I bought it for $130.00 and eventually sold the motor to a scrap yard for about the purchase price and am going to convert it again to drive by flat belt on one of the old tractors. It dates to somewhere in the 19-teens or 1920's, no serial numbers to research by either. I made a number of picnic tables with 24" wide tops out of edged rough lumber then planed whole lengths of the tops then cut to the specific lengths required for the different tables. Sure save a TON of jointery that way LOLOL. But then I have a tendency to be a bit lazy on occasion. My SIL would've loved to have picked up that old planer if it was an Oliver. He does a fair amount of refurbishing old shop equipment and trades back and forth with a group of his friends. He just traded a HUGE mortiser for a HUGE jointer a few weeks ago. We made a banzai run over a weekend to Dallas Tx for a band saw that stands 8' tall. And we picked up a line shaft driven wood lathe with 24" swing and 8' bed a couple years ago too. I'm enjoying the contemplation of your various ideas for saving me the purchase cost of a new blade too....LOL !! I have a new roll of barb wire, so that'll be my first choice.... I'll do a video on it when it happens.... Thanks DaveyJO, enjoy your coffee and you have a half fast day too sir !! (-:

  • @captdonaldlowesr.5285
    @captdonaldlowesr.5285 Před 4 lety

    What size is the cable for the carriage drive?

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 4 lety

      capt donald lowe sr. It’s a 3/8” cable. I don’t think it needs to be but that was what’s on it. Our old Fisher and Davis mill with a twelve foot wooden carriage also had a 3/8”.

    • @captdonaldlowesr.5285
      @captdonaldlowesr.5285 Před 4 lety

      Tractorman44 Thank you sir.

  • @Whitebuffalo44
    @Whitebuffalo44 Před 3 lety

    Hello again enjoy watching your videos! Do you know of a Foley Belsaw like yours for sale? I've been looking and finally found one but the guy disappeared so now im looking again. Any help would be greatly appreciated

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      Well Steven, where are you located...nearest major city is close enough. I've decided to let this one go down the highway. It does need a lot of TLC. Mostly just the blade needs hammered and it needs a new set of tips as well as a good hammering for 540 rpm. I actually have a second carriage for it as well as all the original dogs and cams that came on it. Btw, glad to hear you enjoy the videos. If you are anywhere near St Louis Mo. we might make a deal. LOL

    • @Whitebuffalo44
      @Whitebuffalo44 Před 3 lety

      @@tractorman4461 Is there a way we could talk over phone, if you're comfortable with that of course?

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      @@Whitebuffalo44 sure. I’ve no problem with that. Email me at whpete44@gmail.com. And we will swap numbers and see what happens. Are you within reasonable distance to my location ?

    • @Whitebuffalo44
      @Whitebuffalo44 Před 3 lety

      @@tractorman4461 im not exactly close but if your willing I may be able to make it work

    • @Whitebuffalo44
      @Whitebuffalo44 Před 3 lety

      Could you try my email i was unable to get through with yours, most likely my fault. sbrickey.44@gmail.com

  • @manuallabor7193
    @manuallabor7193 Před 5 lety

    I would like to see the bigger mill.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 5 lety

      Yessir Manual Labor, I could do a short video on that one as well. But it is not as impressive as this functioning one because it is totally disassembled and sitting on beams awaiting a good working over and reassembly. There are parts of a couple others as well interspersed amongst the parts and pieces too... LOL Thanks for the additional comment sir. Please feel free to comment anytime sir.

  • @georgeshotrodbarn2113
    @georgeshotrodbarn2113 Před 3 lety

    You could buy them from sears and like you said they are a homesteader saw just like all the small band saws sold today. the biggest problem i see is people try to put to heavy of a log on the mill and knocks everything out of whack.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Před 3 lety

      They are definitely a lighter duty machine. The original dogs were worthless too. This is only the second one I've ever seen mounted on bar joists. Lots of guys put them on old truck frames or built wooden bunks....all kinds of things. I think this one has 16 leveling/stabilizing points which is really good to keep the flex to a minimum. Thanks George for the comment.