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Edenpure Heater is it better than any other space heater?
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2012
- Showing my several space heaters I have including the Edenpure infrared quartz heater. Does the Edenpure live up to its claims? Does it work any better than any other space heater? Does a $20 1500 watt heater do the exact same thing as a expensive 1500 watt heater? An honest opinion from someone that has used over 10 different types of space heaters in my life.
Just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to do this video. It's this kind of review that really makes the internet a valuable resource. Real, thoughtful, unbiased, consumer based review from someone who has a real interest and working knowledge of the product while being able to deliver the information in under 10 min without a lot unnecessary fluff. This is more valuable to me than 500 commercials. Thank you.
So well spoken. So helpful. So Trustworthy.
Thank you!
Thank you for taking the time to give us your experience with the heaters. It was very helpful in allowing my wife and I to make a decision. Very appreciateve.
Hello my name is Bozena. Thank you very much, your explaination was for me very helpful in deciding about the heater. Your explaination is simple and understandable. For-your-information - I am 66 years old and English is my second language. Thank you again
Hi Bozena thanks for the kind words. I'm glad my video was of some help to you.
I grew up in a house with base board hot water radiant heat. The circulating water was heated by a natural gas furnace. When I left home my first house had an electric heat pump system. Every winter I lived there was miserable. I had itchy skin, dry eyes and sinus passages, and I always felt cold. My second home is a little better because I have a gas furnace, but it's still nothing like my parent's house with the base board radiant heat. If I ever build my dream home it will have radiant heat. It's just silly for someone to provide a mathmatical equation showing that all heat is the same. I'll tell you what: you live with your electric heat pump and I'll live in a home with a system that feels better.
All heat (delivery) is not the same. All heat (amount) is the same with the same electric input with electric resistance heat. Convection, radiation, conduction, and a combination of those can feel different; and different people prefer different delivery methods. I love radiant heat, but not over forced air. That's my opinion and I won't argue that with you because it's just an opinion. The point with all of this math and science is to disprove the claim that these heaters are more efficient than any other electric heater. In your own example, you liked radiant better. So tell me how an oil-filled electric heater (purely radiant) is not as good as an Eden Pure? Neither is the best, neither is the most efficient on the market for your home, but the Eden Pure is NOT more efficient, and does NOT put out more heat than any other electric heater. These expensive heaters will not produce any more heat than any other heater with the same wattage ratings - and will not save you money.
I've had all types of heating systems in my various homes and find heat pumps to be the absolute worse. They should be illegal in the north! They cannot keep up with the cold, cold temperatures.
This guy in the video is RIGHT. I've been trying to solve this problem for my Bug-Out Van for a very long time now with various space heaters (as it gets real cold on the East Coast). I measure the wattage of each of my space heaters with a Kill-A-Watt. I just bought that little Pelonis white heater at Walmart (that he has in the video) because it was so cheap ($10). It says 600/900/1500w but the actual wattage is around 528/772/1175 watts (lo/med/hi). My Tatung Heat Devil, that's about the same size but 3x heavier, bought in 1999 ($40), heats the van much better (750/1070w lo/hi). Both blows the heat out by fan. My Lasko Ceramic upright unit (934/1312s lol/hi) that's about 3-4x the height with about the same width ($70) also loses to this Tatung. The best is my Presto Heat Dish ($60) but it takes up so much space (816/820 lo/hi). I'm thinking real hard about this Eden Pure. Main problem being it's so big for my van and it ain't cheap. But not all heaters are the same at the same wattage, that's FOR SURE.
I am beginning my second heating season in a 1934 cottage-style house with an oil furnace. I was not expecting to pay the oil company $200 monthly ($2400 annually) to heat my home from October to April in eastern WV. Even though my oil heat is very comfortable, it is way too expensive for me. I have replaced all the windows in 2013. I just learned of the Eden Pure heaters and really appreciate the comprehensive video you produced. I too have an assortment of space heaters and really want one that will do the job!
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I also bought a slightly used Edenpure with remote and have had for over a year. It does a fantastic job of heating a bedroom that is over a garage. I love this heater.
Yes they work great
I was a service manager at a heating and ac office in PA. We used CFM also how many windows the house had and if they were metal or vinyl to determine a number for newer furnaces to be installed that were sufficient and not too large for the house it was going into. Unlike some who will sell you something based on BTUs and not based on CFM and other factors, to make more money.
I have a fairly large house and the central heat is 15kw. Without space heaters, my central heat simply can't heat the house effectively and just runs and runs even when set to lower temps. In one hour of continuous running, it will use as much electricity as TEN 1,500-watt space heaters combined or the equivalent of one 1500-watt heater for 10 hours of continuous use. So, that's a LOT of electricity, and believe me, I know it when I get the bill. I use two infrared heaters similar to the Eden Pure and find them effective to heat larger areas fairly well and they definitely keep my electric bill lower in winter months. Another advantage is they're fairly quiet compared to most other space heaters with a fan. I can sit right next to one and watch TV w/o any real problem. Other fan-forced heaters can be quite noisy, so much so I can't stand to be in the same room with them.
Yes true electric central heating can be very costly to run, glad you find the infrared heaters a way to cut the cost for you. And the comfort level of infrared heat can’t be beat in my opinion.
Worked in a rather large private school they still had the radiators with the thermostat apaptor added. The school was rebuilt in 1923 and the radiators got pretty hot. I read that radiators of the old days was more efficient then the stuff we use today. Just have to keep a boiler going, they converted the boiler over to natural gas to save money.
Thank you. Very useful information. I have been totally confused by the industry ratings.
You’re welcome and thanks for the nice comment!
This man is Very well spoken . He does a great job representing his results .
I agree!
@@ella5024 yes, but the audio is awful. There is some annoying background noise that made it hard to watch.
You understand what the internet is for. Thank you. You have great clarity in explanation.
I bought a used edenpure at a flea market for 25$ in 2012, and it is still going strong. Excellent heat source and low electric bills...
I used to also think 1500w heaters were all the same, that changed when I acquired one from a friend that no longer wanted it when he moved. I use it to heat up a room I spend a lot of time in that always is a few degrees cooler than the rest of the house and it does a great job, even on it's lowest settings.
The oil heaters work great too, but they only do well if you put them up against an inside wall, then have a small floor fan blow through them and against the wall.
It’s true they all do not heat the same. Thanks for watching.
I have that exact same EdenPure heater, But one of my elements burned out so now it is a 1,000 watt heater, But I really like it. I have used it for many years, I feel safe leaving it on event when I am not home because the outside never gets hot.
My Edenpure gen 3 went 9 years before I had some elements burn out. I have since replaced all 6 elements and it purrs like brand new again. It’s really an awesome heater and as you stated I don’t worry leaving it on all the time even when away from home.
The bottom line is that all electrical heaters are essentially 100% efficient. Since all energy dies a heat death even the electricity used to spin the fan ultimately becomes heat. EdenPure and its knock offs claim to be infrared heaters but in reality are fan forced space heaters. The reason being is that the radiant heat is absorbed into a heat sink with a fan blowing over it to deliver hot air into the room. However none of that matters as Jay Hammond has correctly posted.
People that have the EdenPure are more likely to defend it rather than admit they were suckered. If the EdenPure were more efficient the EPA would be pushing them, but again they are not true IR heaters.
I dont have an eden pure but ive used a few infrared cabinet style with a fan heaters, as well as about every other style heater also and i can assure you the infrared ones work much better to heat the whole room, or in my case the whole 30 ft fifth wheel RV. I guess I cant tell you if they use less energy or not if thats your argument, but i can assure you they definitely do a better job of heating.
What is a "true " IR heater?
@@meissnerflux Amish heaters
Do you live under a rock? EPA like the FDA or any other government agency pushes whatever is best for their narrative and not what works best. Make a valid point and don't argue from authority.
The laws of physics prevail in spite of anyone's hype.
I have a couple eden pures. One is the older model and the newer model like here, with remote. The older one is running on one element now days but I use it on my birds at night during winter months.
The newer one is really nice. I used to run a honeywell and I really liked that heater too. But the edenpure with remote- put it on setting 4-6 and it'll heat up whatever area your in. It's on wheels but still have to lug it around steps. We have a pretty big home. Been running for 3 winters now. The elements have held up and clean the filter before each season. I think a lot of the reviews are from people who don't own one. I got mine off Craigslist- 180 for both. Saves over the gas/electric central air which costs a fortune to run. Can put out the pilot light up there too which saves a bit also. We run solar so electric is better for us.
I can see why people would pan the heater because it is noisy. But the newer one has better settings and the noise isn't so bad. Moves a lot of air. The honeywell was quiet and I think it did rival the edenpure on low. If your easily annoyed by noise this will cause you to roid rage probably. Happy owners aren't making videos.
My sister owns one too, up in northern Michigan. It gets pretty cold up there. I might fix the older version some day, or not. It does pull less power with elements out and seems to be the right temp for the birds. One time I rode the broken edenpure down the driveway and it flipped over.
Your process is very logical. I enjoyed following your line of thought regarding cf/m differences between models, in addition to your detail concerning your own personal use of the products and all pertinent information regarding the design and function thereof. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Thanks for the Kind words. Still heating my home with my EdenPure even below zero temps with no issues keeping comfortable and warm.
MiamiCOIndiana Electric costs?
KingRatt Many variables....cost of Kilowatt in your area...how well insulated area you are heating in...how large space...how cold outside? I find in mid winter my ave cost is $60-$80 monthly to run my heater.
That is a substantial increase to ones electric bill.
KingRatt Yes I will be first to tell anyone it WILL increase your electric bill a very noticeable amount. However using my natural gas furnace cost was around $150 a month. My gas bill in winter was a constant $150-$175. Now it is completely shut off with zero gas consumption for heating (I do heat water with natural gas) and my bill runs around $15/month. I figure I'm saving in the range of 35-50% switching to the EdenPure. Even better the comfort level is way superior to the natural gas. The heat with the EdenPure is so even and warm with no "cold spots" in any room while using it. The gas furnnace gave blast of heat then the house would get chilly before the next big blast. EdenPure provides constant even heat.
Thanks for the comment. Some still are stuck on the idea that 1000 watts = this much heat end of story. The proof is in the comfort and the results. I also tried 2 oil filled electric heaters with fans behind them and didn't even come close to heating my home. This ONE Edenpure set on medium setting which is around 800-900 watts of power can easily heat the entire house. It simply works that's all I can say, where the others can heat small areas the Edenpure can heat large areas efficient.
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I have 2 Eden Pure Gen. 4 heaters , that I bought back in 2012. I only ever took one out of the box to use. Only in the last 2 weeks or so, it finally Quit. It would run for 20 minutes or so , then no heat. Just the fan running. My way of thinking always is, was, if it don't work , what do you have to lose by Taking it apart to investigate why. With the technology today, in cell phones with cameras , you can just take pictures before you start to disassemble. If you can't fix it, you're no worse off from where you started. If you do fix it, hooray ! You just Saved yourself A lot of Money. Right now I'm just waiting for the heating elements to be delivered to my door.
My Gen 3 also went out but lasted 9 winters using constantly. I just replaced the bulbs this season and it’s again working like a charm. It’s actually my back up heater now as I’m using a Home Comfort heater that works just as good. And the bulb prices have dropped significantly so definitely worth a try.
I will have to check this out! I currently rent a house with a cool living room. I recently got a small fan forced electric heater for the bedroom and a large oil filled unit to help out the central air unit in the cool living room. Heating a small room is easy for a small cheap unit but for a small house (we have about the same sq footage) this might be a very good option. Great video, thumbs up!
All electric heaters are 100% efficient. This means that all the electrical power is converted to heat. Of course the unit with the larger fan will move more air through the heater and thus distribute that heat throughout a larger area. The only way to get more than 100% efficiency in heat from electricity is from a heat pump, basically running an air conditioner in reverse. This is because heat is extracted from the colder area outside and transferred to the warmer area inside. Your refrigerator does a similar job when it takes heat from inside and moves it outside the box.
Also remember that the energy from the wall outlet is finite. The fan takes energy (which also produces heat) away from the heat elements. Just because it has a fan does not make it more efficient - it still puts out the same amount of heat. I'm glad you get it - I still can't believe people buy these, and vehemently defend them.
Great heater, I have 600sqft upstairs in my home built in 2003 .this is where I live in the winter to save on power bill, I do not heat the downstairs with my central heating at all unless I have company from out of town , my power bill in a 1800 sqft home is $65.00 a month only because I have electric eater heater .before I purchases my edenpure my power bill ran 135.00 a month in the winter using my upstairs central heating so essentially I have cut my power bill in half.
I have used one for at least 15 yrs and the element just burned out last night, Dec.18/19 . I leave it on low all night long and the thermostat kicks it on high when it cools down below the setting. It is quiet and I was well satisfied with it. I am looking for another one as I would definitely buy another .
Yes they are awesome heaters for sure
You mentioned on your video that you "oiled" the fan. Can you produce a video to show how you perform this task? Thank you in advance.
1 of the best you tube videos I've ever watched
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a positive comment. It really means a lot to me.
Thank you. Just got one of those, heaters , like to gauge power, you helped me.
A Christian friend of mine recommended infrared heaters when I couldn't heat my 37' x 7.5' x 7' camper in the cold weather. For 5 years before that I had used two oil-filled radiators in my older camper. This newer camper is much larger, which I didn't take into account. My friend loaned me his new infrared heater and the difference was like night and day. It's heat production is much more dramatic. Since then, I've bought 3 of them and heat my entire camper in very cold weather outside. When it's under 29 degrees outside, it used to be 54 inside, until I used 3 infrared heaters. Now, it's 66 for a low temp inside. When it's 35 outside, I have to turn one down to 66.
I have used the oil filled heaters before also they do work grant you but can’t heat large areas like infrared heaters can. Thanks for sharing your experience with using them.
Although this review sounds very sincere, it is mostly anecdotal. I prefer the other video since it was more scientific. I also agree with the other video in that all 1500 watt heaters put out the same amount of heat. The CFM argument is a good point, but you can get a similar effect by putting a cheap summer fan behind an oil radiator heater.
I burned up an oil rad that way in my garage, they aren't made to be on all the time, or really to be on high. They are made to cycle on and off. The fan made it stay on 100% duty cycle, melted the cord so I put a heavier one on, then the control board melted and burned. I have an eden pure also and it mostly heats my 500 sqft house.
@@thefix2573 if your 1500 watt EP heater heats your space then any 1500 watt heaters would do exactly the same. A watt is a watt, marketing cannot change the laws of physics.
The reason Edenpure is so much more effective is something you briefly mentioned but didn't expand on. Infrared radiation heating technology is much more effective. If I understand it properly it heats physical objects more so than the air. It's very effective when used outdoors as you'll see overhead on diner patios etc and if I recall those don't even use fans, similar to the parabolic heater you also mentioned which is the oly space heater I've ever seen that tops out at 800 watts. Even the sun is done this way. Rather than heating all the space between the earth it radiates and heates the water, mountains, etc which then slowly realease it all around. When I obtained my first vehicle that had heated seats I could drive with the windows down at sub zero temps and was completely comfortable.
In agreement with you completely. Objects heated first then radiated into the surrounding air.
I had an EdenPure for years in a Midwest trailer and loved it. It really does heat the entire space floor to ceiling without cold or hot spots. I have read some of the comments and I know they are speaking science but however it works, Edenpure really works. I was sad when the innards died, but then I moved and didn't need it. I think they are very expensive and I don't know if we are being scammed price wise, but still, I really liked that heater.
Most people that say they don't work good I can almost guarantee they never have used one. They are pricey but as you know they really work very well. Thanks for the comment appreciate it much.
@@MiamiCOIndiana agree. those that say they blow hot just like space heaters could not ever have used an Edenpure. the company say the technology is different, and I, for one, know they do not act like a normal space heater at all.
Infrared is nice it doesnt burn up the oxygen or humidity in the house. Some apartments near Seattle still have inside the wall space heaters and they get soo hot. A law was passed outlawing them in the county but a lot of landlords are skirting the issues and never replacing them with a normal duct system or a Mitsubishi no vent unit which hangs on a wall and vents outside the building.
Sorry, but you can't burn up oxygen if there is no flame. Also relative humidity is based upon temperature not the brand of heater.
Thank you so very much, I'm feeling very informed, your simplistic explainable details are key to my dicision here in Canada.
I'll post how this very same Edan Pure works for my son.
Thank you so much! I have a cold basement living area, and I intend to get this style of heater now. My choices were: Finish the basement for 20k or buy one of these heaters so I can watch television in comfort. Thanks again.
EdenPure makes an exquisite heater, built in Canton, Ohio. It’s worth every penny, and pays for itself. Great synopsis.
A simple demonstration showing watts used vs. the temp of the air coming out would be great.
He is speaking of a Heat Pump, which are very efficient compared to normal furnaces. Also have the option of AC hoses connected when you can afford the condensor. I recommend Carrier Furnace for your house and Trane AC condensors. Carrier has less parts involved compared to other brands of furnaces.
Very good video we need more like this
Thank you for the nice comment!
Nice video. I have an Eden pure heater and 2 oil radiator stile heaters. The Eden pure does not heat as well and as they do and I have to listen to the noise of the fan. I live in Arizona where the air is dry. Maybe the Eden pure needs the humidity to help it work. I don't know. All I know is it sure doesn't work well for me.
Since infrared heat rides on the humidity in the air it is key for successful heating of the space effectively.
I liked this review.
Surely not scientific on what is the "medium" settings/light bar for your heater are actually heating at. Just references to go by on what works for your system. Good info and this can be adjusted/reset/calibrated.
So without taking a watt meter to record the useage at what reference light setting, to what temperature differential vs CFM, heat gain/loss of your structure etc.....I again liked this simplistic review and also why I use the edenpure. (I know, hell of a sales pitch for sure)
I own two of the A 3705 edenpures to heat my home instead of my factory electric central heat furnace in my 8700 ft3 mobile home.
First of all, my homes factory unit runs me about $400/mo when the temps hit around 0 to +20 degrees outside to maintain a 66-68 degree indoor temperature. The 2 edenpures in the low to medium reference light indicators with overhead fans have maintained my home in -20 degree weather for 3 weeks straight for half of that cost. (Sure, I have overhead fans in the vaulted ceilings, and that helps.)
I rebuilt my very first A3705 last winter. Circuit board did take a hit and needed to be replaced. Circa 2005? Not bad actually for it to finally take a dump.
I use space heaters and incandescent bulbs for my welding rod storage, in the well pump house, or in the barn for the animals . Not in my home.
The Gen 3 is a win for my needs.
Thank you for your video
Thanks for the nice comment. Infrared heat just plain works better than any other I have used. Glad you save money with yours as well. Stay safe and warm this upcoming winter.
1500W is 1500W. Because the thermostat is incorporated in the heaters, moving the heat away from the unit will avoid it from cycling to a lower power level or even turning off. If the goal is to move hot air to different areas of the house, this could be done with a cheap additional fan.
Edenpure heaters actually do adjust to different power levels and fan speeds depending on heat needed. The thermostat for controlling the room temperature is located in the rear of the heater next to where the intake is. And it will cycle up and down and on and off to maintain desired temperature you set heater to.
I've used all of these and they don't even compare to a 10,000 BTU radiant kerosene heater. My heat stopped working in the middle of winter last year and I didn't have heat for over a week with temps in the low teens and topping out in the high 20s during the day. I borrowed a friends Edenpure and it got my dining room and kitchen (325 sqft) up to about 63 form 45 degrees inside but that all the higher it got. After about 3 days I went out and got a 10,000 BTU kerosene heater and in about 3 -4 hours the rooms went from the low 40s to 75 at which point I had to shut it off it was just getting too hot. Down side is there is no heat setting on them, they're either on or off but my god the heat the throw is just incredible. Kerosene is about $3-4 a gallon where I live and I get about 14 hours out of a full tank so that's about 21 cents an hour. Thankfully it was air in my system for my main heat so it working again but I now have the 2 Kerosene heaters on the ready in case I have another problem. I'm still going to get my own Edenpure since it did ok in a pinch and as a backup in case I run out of fuel but I'm a kerosene guy now for emergency/supplemental heat. Just have to be smart using them and follow all the directions but that's the same for any heater.
Thanks for the information I’m sure many will benefit from your results.
the edenpure has a better blower. turn on a ceiling fan and the cheap heater will perform the same as the edenpure. all 1500 watt heaters put out the same BTUs.
No matter what you do the other heaters will take alot longer to feel the heat. Its not even close. Same BTU, blah blah blah; I dont care the reason I have multiple style heaters and feel stupid for not buying an infrared quartz heater sooner. I turned mine on last night and within 1 min it started to take the chill out of my room
@@BoogieDownProduction ya bro fuck facts and science and shit
Go on and buy a $100.00 electric heater and take your place among the legions of Americians stupids. A btu is a btu and NO their is no new science proving otherwise
@@robertl.fallin7062 Referenced below is an experimental heater that produces about 3,000 Watts of thermal output, but consumes only 300 Watts of electrical input. The additional energy comes from exothermic nuclear transmutation. Instructions included.
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These heaters are amazing. I live in a two story home and pointless to heat the entire home, especially overnight. I use this model in the bedroom (nearly 10 years) and it raises the temperature to a comfortable level within 5 minutes, while saving energy.
Consumer report tested this heater and disputed the Eden claims on it's entire specs. They found other less expensive heaters out performed this heater and they named those heaters. Duraflame was one of those makes and it's less money.
Appreciate your comment. I have always said if your looking to heat a room up quickly a infrared heater is the WORSE choice and go buy a cheap $20 heater. However if you’re looking to hold a temperature to a certain level in a large area up to 1000 sq ft. Infrared is your absolutely best choice. Since infrared heaters heat objects and water molecules first THEN the air it takes a very long time to bring the area up to desired temperature. However once temperature is achieved it will hold that temperature even in very large areas. I actually use a different brand than when this video was made. It’s not so much about the brand of infrared as they seem to all work very similar. I’m not knocking the consumer report test as I know it was done with good intentions, however for the reasons I just stated seeing how a heater heats up a single room is really not a fair test for infrared heaters. If the test was done with a 1000 sq foot house in the real world the results would have been much different.
@@MiamiCOIndiana we bought a Twin Star infrared heater in 2012. It died a few weeks ago. The best heater we've owned to date. It had 7 tubes to share the load which I believe is the reason it lasted so long . Used a ceramic heater(honeywell) until we bought a new Dr Infrared heater. 2 types of heaters in this one with only one tube and ceramic heater I believe. Smaller but heats the same room as the much larger Twin Star. Seems to be as accurate too. It maintains the set temp well so we're pleased. The room is 12 x 17 ft and insulated. I've used various types of heaters in this room but the infrared seems to keep the temp more consistent. Plus the air is less dry with this type of heater. Had a delonghi convection heater which was decent but ran more often to keep the set temp. I recommend the infrared over all others because it appears to work less to keep the room temp(as you have stated)
I use two of these units as well...although in the dead of winter in NJ they will not keep the house comfortable, fall spring and temps down to 30 or so these units keep the house very comfortable....either way its still much cheaper than the oil furnace kicking on...
The Reason the oil filled heaters do not heat as well as your infrared or the other $12.00 electric heaters is because even if you set the thermostat on high the thermostat gets hot and cycles on and off... I have three of them and they do the same thing.. However if you put a box fan aimed at the oil filled heater and put thermostat on high it wont over heat and shut off... BY the way you are not going to get more BTU's out of that Edenpure than any other 120v electric heater that is not faulty. The bad thing about the Edenpure and similar infrared heaters is that those Glass tube heating elements don't last very long. they last about one or two seasons then they go bad... and they are expensive to replace. They don't save any more electricity than any other electric heater. A friend of mine bought one years ago because she bought into the hype that it will save on her heating bill... It did lower her gas bill a little but the Electric bill went WAY up it cost more, way more to heat her house so she got rid of it and went back to relying on her gas furnace. The only advantage they have is the outside of the unit is just warm to the touch (not hot). Most have a remote control but the thermostat is still located on the unit.
Thermostats can be an aggravation for sure. Years ago I had a couple of quartz tower heaters that had infinite control rather than a true thermostat. These days they all seem to have those pesky on/off thermostats. I picked up a quartz tower heater from Walmart online for only $15. I turn the thermostat up to max and control it with a speed control type voltage controller. The result is that I can control the heater for a constant heat output. I guess if I needed max output it might do some switching but I use it to keep room temp lower and me in my easy chair warm with radiant heat. That's true IR heat, if the tubes are hidden in a box it's not IR.
These put out 5100 BTU for about 200 dollars, there are space heaters rated at 5000 BTU for 30-50 dollars. Why wouldent getting the cheaper one be better?
Because people will spend hours debating why the same amount of heat for $200 is better than the exact same amount of heat for $15. (it's just really funny to read those that try to defend this magic box of heat!!!)
Jay Hammond ya I thought the same thing, 5000 btu is 5000 btu.
We bought a slightly used one with remote..love it!!!!
AND it can double as a seat &or end table, so it's a win/win/win situation lol I had one of these given to me by some rich people that were moving and getting rid of "junk & clutter." It looks like this is a GOOD heater/seat/end table lol So. Yeah. Yay. Win. Win. lol. 😊
1500 watts of energy is still 1500 watts no matter how you deliver it to the space.
I copied this from the edenpure website,
Combustion heaters create dry, irritating indoor air that can deplete your body’s natural moisture and increase your susceptibility to illness. They also burn a great deal of oxygen - which can actually make you feel tired and fatigued. The EdenPURE heater causes none of this.
The part about combustion heaters creating dry air and EdenPure not is just not true. Water happens to be a product of combustion so it's electric heaters that creates dry heat. EdenPure knows so little about physics and engineering it's just plain scary.
Big Lots has the Source Green 1500 watt infrared heaters for $99 they claim to heat 1,000 sq ft of space. It is the 4 infrared unit, there are others like the EdenPure which have 6 infrared heating elements.
I run two dr heater 999 model units large
7" blower fans and they really move air we love ours and we love the ability to heat 2,000 sq ft down to about 30 out it is convienant and cheap on electric to have the dr heater infrared units . .. Then after it gets real cold I run the wood furnace
There a different used quite a bit of different types of heater over years. Infrared works great the best hands down. It the only heater use now as only one that lasted now over 2 years. I just had a Lasko ceramic catch fire the other day and was only 6 months old and on a 20 amp circuit and Commercial grade outlet. Plus never put out as much heat as the infrared quartz one does. The infrared one built much much better. When that one when out replaced it with another 6 quartz infrared one.
The oil based ones are good when used correctly. I have just one due to safe for birds due to no PTFE. I use the oil one to maintain temperature.
3.41 BTUs per watt a BTU is a BTU is a BTU. No matter what heater your using
Gas gives so much energy per gallon but not all vehicles have the exact same mpg. Weights differ size of engines differ and some are just more efficient. Types of heaters have far different results using the exact amount of power consumption also. I have used many as I have illustrated in this review.
@@MiamiCOIndiana You're comparing apples and oranges in an anecdotal fashion so there is no debate.
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Thank you for your time and the information.
Have you tried the baseboard hydronic? I think they are called.
Get a ceiling fan and almost anything will work. I use a Lasco ceramic heater and it works great. The element is the important thing. That is what converts electricity into heat. Actually a hot wire heater is better but can almost can not be found anymore. The older electric heaters are the best and can be found at places that sell hand me downs stores. My lasco put out 140 degree heat and with the use of a ceiling fan is important.
I just saw your video. I agree, it's a very good heater.
I've had my Edenpure, same model as you, since 2012 or 2013. I still use it for supplemental heat but I did use it for main heat in a 600 square foot room for a couple of winters when I first bought it. The room was not insulated and the ceiling leaked in several places when it rained, or during winter thaws. I live in Vermont. Let me tell you, when it gets down to -20 degrees F, this will not keep you warm. It would get my room up to the low 40's, which I survived. I do believe their material clearly stated not to use as a main heat source, I just want to throw that out there, I do not blame Edenpure for my miscalculation.
When the Edenpure runs 24/7 on high, it chews up the juice. I was paying $400 electric bills.
Overall, I love it. Works great in the spring and fall. Heck, it does a great job down to 30 degrees F or so, but if you live somewhere with severe winter cold, do not use this as a main heat source.
I have gone way past my 36,000 hours that the Edenpure was estimated to last.
Rideshare Boom thanks for sharing your usage of the heater. I do believe the most important thing is how well the insulation is where you are using the heater and how cold it is. I am good on heating my area down to around 10 above zero Fahrenheit and keeping the house around 70 degrees. When down near zero I can still maintain around 68 degrees. I have insulated walls and good attic insulation which does help tremendously.. As you stated I have got many more hours out of the heater than the stated life span of the bulbs.
I got this edenpure andI feel cold. No I'm in a studio. It barely comes on intermittently
Doesn’t sound like it’s operating correctly or you have thermostat set to low.
Hi! ☺ Thank u SO much for sharing this video. I enjoyed it very much. If u don't mind, I have a question. I have purchased 4 Edenpure quartz heaters. I have thrown 2 away. Do they have bulbs that need to be replaced? I don't know why, but: I have thrown 2 away & the 2 that I have now r not working properly & I am about to dispose of them also. Thank u again!! ☺☺😎😎
1500 watts is approximately 5500 btu's of heat. A 1000 sq. ft. home that is reasonably insulated (2" or more insulation in walls and ceiling at the very minimum, which in today's world, is not enough), and has average to good doors and windows that prevent most of the infiltrated outside air from entering the house, will basically require a heat source capable of producing 28,000 btu's per hour at minimum. Some houses depending on their construction, may require a lot more heat capacity from their heat source. 28,000 btu's is 5.6 times the heat of a 1500 watts (5500 btu) electric heater.
Does the EdenPure 1500 watt heater produce more heat than other fan driven heaters? No. It can only produce 5500 btu's per hour like any other comparable electric heater. My personal conclusion is that any fan driven 1500 watt electric heater will do what the EdenPure is doing to heat a space. No single 1500 watt heater will heat a house. They are designed to heat a small to average room with 8 foot ceilings. This is based on the cubic feet of that area being heated. The more cubic feet in a designated area will deteriorate the ability of a 1500 watt heater to heat that area.
EdenPure heaters are expensive to buy, and certain repair parts are expensive also. Plus, the homeowner needs to understand the dangers of electricity and have the mechanical and electrical skills to fix their heater. I think EdenPure recommends that their products be shipped to their repair centers for fixing.
This opinion is based on my own background and experience, and is provided for information only. It is nothing more than that -- information. The reader has the responsibility to decide what to do about using electric heaters. Personal safety is to be the first consideration in using these or any electric room heaters.
I appreciate your reply as I thought the same. As you can see in the video I have used many styles/ types of heaters. All I can say is it is currently 1 below zero where I live, I am using 1 EdenPure heater and my aprox 960 sq foot home which is well insulated is a toasty comfortable 72 degrees. NONE of the other heaters I have used could achieve this result. (they did 1 or 2 rooms ok but never the entire house) I don't know why these heaters work so well all I know is I heat now for almost half the cost of using a natural gas furnace and stay warmer than ever before. I also appreciate in my opinion the EdenPure is the safest electric heater I have ever used.
I've had my gen3 edenpure for 10 years and nothing comes close to it for whole house heat. I love it!
I've used mine now 8 years same bulbs and still going strong. Nothing like it I've ever used. Glad to see you love your EdenPure also.
Well now on my 3rd heating season with my same Gen 3 EdenPure heater, still going strong with original bulbs. Runs from October through March each season. Runs majority of the time on low heat which is 880 watts, and keeps 850 foot entire home at 71-72. I really almost can't believe really how well these heaters work. It's really amazing. I tried as some suggested on the oil filled heaters to put a fan behind them to circulate air, running 2 at full blast (3000 watts) couldn't heat my home!
I'm with you on this. I can't figure why others are protesting the value of the infrared heater.
dude great info and your rite having a fan does help and longer contact does help to dont listen to the morons you explained it great and its all true to. if you cant mix the hot air around the room it does no good it just goes up like you said thanks pal !
Thank you for your comments, you are right a toaster doesn't have a blower, as doesn't the baseboard heater or the oil filled radiator heater shown in my video. And if you have a quartz heater there is no need for any humidifier the air never dries out. That's why quart heaters have the ability to have warmer air at floor level and cooler at the ceiling, laws of physics can't be changed and water (humidity) is heavier than air and that's how quartz heaters heat with water and objects first.
Relative humidity is proportional to temperature of the room and not the type of heating element. Heating elements don't burn water vapor or oxygen.
Maybe he will learn what relative humidity is, or that a BTU produced by "quartz" is the same as a BTU created by any other source. Maybe he will realize that a $15 walmart electric heater is just as good as his $200 electric heater. Nope. Probably not. Or - could it be that a $200 vs. $15 heater is what makes him money??? I guess I find it my civil duty to educate people to facts, and I find it sad that false claims are made to take advantage of mostly elderly or people unable to make informed decisions. I've asked him to prove me wrong. I've asked for specific independent testing from a reliable source. He can't supply that, obviously, because it's not possible. Is the Eden Pure a really nice electric resistance heater? I don't know. Maybe. Is it more efficient or produce more heat than ANY other resistance heater with the same wattage input? No. It doesn't.
So basically get a cheap space heater and a box fan
Thanks...I was just wondering....we just got one....but I didn't think you mentioned the infared in your video...
Notice what he doesn't say is how much does it cost to run this monster per month? What is his electric bill with the Edenpure and without it per month?
Cost $80 - $100 per month to run in winter months, less of coarse in spring and fall when not needed to run as much. Note even in in dead of winter does it run 24/7 it will cycle and on and off to maintain set temperature. Hope this answers your question.
All the small 1500 Watt heaters only works when you are close to it and you don't feel warm when you have to move around. I think a good heater is not about just wattage. It is about the ability to heat the whole room quickly and evenly so you will feel warm in any part of the room. Efficiency is important but it seems it is not the only factor otherwise everyone will not be still trying to find the best one because they are all 100% efficient in math. To me a good heater is the one that will warm me when I am 10 or 20 feet away and not just in the area close to the heater like 2 feet.
The efficiency of all the heaters are roughly the same at the close proximity of the heating elements meaning the heat output are roughly the same at close the heating element. Where this amount of heat is going to move and distribute in the room makes the most effect of your comfort. This effectiveness is hard to quantify. There when the design of a heater is important.
Hi - curious about the wall insulation you went with? I was almost going to go with injected foam insulation, but figured that might scare away potential buyers in the future.
Did you have your exterior wall insulation blown in from the inside or outside? If from the inside, how was it having to patch and repaint the holes?
Was blown in from the exterior of the home, they took off sections of the siding cut a hole and blew it in, plugged up the hole and replaced siding back on so you notice nothing at all. It makes a huge difference in walls not being cold in the winter.
How much for the toaster?
around 3 copper tubes each of the large copper tubes have 2 quartz IR bulbs in it and before the air comes out it gos over 1 more heating element so a large volume of air is force across a large surface hot the surface displace some of it heat to the air so you are left with a worm surface and lots of worm air that intern gets cycled through the whole room IE thermal dynamics
My landlord doesn't supply heat. It was 20 below many days last winter. I had ice in my bathtub!
I have one of these heaters. Had to get used, don't have much money. It works great! However I'm afraid it's going out :( I will be so cold if it does. My grandsons can't sleep over if it goes out on me. It's making some noises and sometimes blows cold air.
Make sure you are keeping the filter clean on a regular basis. If you don't the unit will overheat and will only blow cold air as a built in safety. The reason this happens not enough air is blowing thru the unit if the filter is dirty or clogged, thus the inside of the unit will build up excessive heat and as a safety will shut off the heating elements, thus giving you only cold air. Hope this helps let me know how it goes.
The filter is the key, really! I bought one that was not working, I cleaned the filter and the heat came back on!
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a more efficient space heater. 1000 watts consumed = 3,412 BTUs of heat. People cannot seem to grasp this concept that just because a heater is bigger or gets hotter doesn't mean mean it is more heat. All ELECTRIC heaters are 100% efficient. However your point that a more powerful fan allows the Eden pure to heat a larger space is valid.
However take any cheap space heater and set it to HIGH and place a box fan next to it set on HIGH now I can assure you it will heat just as good because now we have very very HIGH CFM. In fact this is how I heat my basement which is about the same square feet as your house. I can heat it using ONE oil filled heater and a box fan.
I’m thinking that’s debatable about 1500 watt heaters put out the same amount of heat....I feel like there’s too many variables that could/ factor into it all I’ve owned a couple few different sizes and they’ve heated the area they were in differently some better than others but none of them have heated up any of area the same...
Couldn’t agree more with you, I’ve had many styles and types and no 2 of them have heated an area exactly the same even if the wattage draw is completely identical and verified with a watt meter. Many that claim that “wattage in = same heat out”. But they never take in account where or how this heat gets distributed in the area you’re heating. They just simply do not all heat the same the proof is in the results. Thanks for watching and leaving your comment I appreciate it greatly.
What do you think of the radiator heater for a bedroom and than the edenpure style in the main part of tha house? I lost my baseboard heater in my bedroom, no money now for a electrician. I used the radiator last year worked ok, but I wonder, is it more expensive to run the radiator space heater compaered to baseboard. They both are 110 volts. Neither run off a fan. I just hate to leave the house with the radiator on . curious what you have to say about that. Thank you so much for a wonderful in depth review though.
Although baseboard heaters do work, they in my opinion seem quite expensive to run and don't have the ability to circulate the heat as well as other heating methods. Most of the heat they produce goes straight up towards the ceiling. The oil filled heaters also do work however be careful if you run them on high setting as they can easily burn skin. So would not recommend if you have children. I also don't find oil filled heaters near as effective as the infra-style heaters on heating large areas (and yes I've tried them).
Thank you very much for clarifying the info. I bought a life pro at home depot for 89 the other day........ a 6 element heater. Tried it in my boyfriends place last night.........tiny place, 700 sq feet........ this is a 1500 sq ft heater. It barely heated up his bedroom. not sure if there is a problem or what. I ran it at 72 degrees all night
No really familiar with the Life pro. Maybe another viewer that has one or knows something about them can share some info..
Do you recommend me spending money to get my whole house 1200 Sq ft blown in insulation before I buy an edenpure? My dad did not put insulation in the house and no one will live in the house but me, but I still want a reasonably warm house if I go from one room to the next. Do you think spending the money would be worth it.
All depends if you’re looking to live there long term. Attic is the most important as heat rises, but the walls insulated also helps a lot to hold the heat in. I can feel my walls when its below zero and they are cool but definitely not cold like they use to be. Important also to check around all windows and doors for leaks and seal any you find. 1 Edenpure probably will not heat 1200 sq feet if it’s really cold but 2 should definitely do it just fine.
@@MiamiCOIndiana thank you for your advice.
I tried clicking on the link below about the latest video comparison...but it doesn't take me to the video...
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does it effect the durability of the edenpure unit, if on cold days or weeks, that the fan runs non-stop.....???
I am also curious about how you said you oiled the fan. What type of oil did you use , and how often should one do that ???
I run mine the entire heating season, and yes when its really cold out it will stay on all the time. I'm on my 5th year now with the same EdenPure with the same bulbs and it still is heating like a charm. I decided when sit does go out (the bulbs most likely) I will replace the entire unit with a new one. I will have to make a video on oiling the fan, and I used WD40. Thanks for watching and stay warm ;)
Thank you my friend....... 2014 winter is on its way, and I wana be ready I am a single dad and wana give my son a nice warm home to come home to God Bless
Research will tell you that a wired in 1500 watt baseboard heater gives you better bang for the buck than the infrareds.
What’s the water for ?
I realize this video is really old just curious when you say it heats your whole house 8 hundred sq ft or so are you saying it'll even flow into bedrooms as well or is it limited to the room it's sitting in ? Thank you
That unit lasted 9 winters with same bulbs and did a great job. Finally the bulbs died but I did replace them here recently and it’s now my back up heater. And yes provided even heat in every room. Infrared rides the humidity so any room that is open will be heated evenly. Hope this answers your question.
@MiamiCOIndiana thank you so much that's exactly what I wanted to know...Happy New Year....
If you want your heat to linger longer without going to the ceiling then add a humidifier to you room that with make more sufficient heat !!!
put a fan behind the oil filled and it will heat your house,,,with oil filled its about moving air to circulate the radiating heat
Sounds like a good idea
Hello, would you say that the Eden Pure is more energy efficient than the other space heaters?
Yes I would say that. It still is rated at 1500 watts which most space heaters are rated at however the EdenPure can and DOES heat up to 1000 sq feet of well insulated space. (about the size of my house it does great). I figured it cost $60-$80 to run my EdenPure heater per month 24/7. Please note it does NOT run on high or run all the time it will cycle on and off just like a furnace. My gas furnace was costing me around $120-$180 per month to run before getting this heater. I'm on my 7th heating season on the same heater with original bulbs and figured I've saved over $2500 over the past 7 years in heating cost AND Its way warmer in my house. Infrared heating is like the magic of LED lighting on saving you money month after month.
@@MiamiCOIndiana Not really like the magic of LED lighting which is efficient due to providing more light and less IR.
@@MiamiCOIndiana So you are saying that you are heating your home - all rooms equally, with electric resistance heat, cheaper than a gas forced air system? I guess all the new homes being built today, with thousands of dollars going in to things like furnaces, ductwork, radiant floor, etc. should not put in a heating system but use the Eden Pure? This is a great plan! It would save many thousands of dollars. 1500 watts per 1000 square feet sounds great! Now, prove to me that this is possible.....
thanks for the video
+Omega Man You're quite welcome and thanks for watching.
A simple way to explain this with a candle .When it is burning pass your finger through the flame do this fast your finger will not burn. But if you do it slow it will burn. The candle is the same temperature .Why because time over heat is less. See thermodynamics energy transfer.
Sir. I am very happy you made this video, but the reason this Heater was created was to reduce the electric bill and outperform. I need to hear a review on your electric bill in compared to others while using it. Can you please tell me your experience with that. It's all I care about. I want to use this to afford-ably heat my garage 24/7
Also just to add I'm aware of the calculative side of the electricity and cost of it, but what I mean by what I'm saying is that in your experience, does it use less of the 1,500 watts is quoted to be able to reach more efficiently than the other heaters. Thank you.
I find it cost around 10 cents per hour to run my heater. First note my Kilowatt rate is still under 10 cents where I live and the heater rarely runs at the max 1483 watts its rated to consume on highest setting. And just like a furnace it turns completely off then on again unless it is really really cold out. On average it cost around $60-$80 monthly to run the heater as I use it which is on the middle setting 24 hours a day all month long in the cold months. Hope this helps.
MiamiCOIndiana great answer thank you
You need to measure the power consumption of each heater. As long as you are using the same wattage and getting the air distributed properly they should all heat the same even a toaster. Use a kilowatt meter to measure the total energy over time of each heater. My guess is the Edenpure actually uses more energy even though they all say 1500 watts. It would be a scientific impossibility for 1500 watts to heat better than 3000 watts ,That electrical energy has to go somewhere. One point you have to understand about heating coils is that they use less energy the hotter they get. To give an example an incandescent light uses the most energy when you turn it on. However once it reaches its max temp the filament create more resistance and uses less energy. If you were to blow air hard across the bulb it will use more energy to maintain proper temp resistance. So when you see red hot coils it is using less energy than it would by putting a fan across removing heat from the coils thus creating less resistance and allowing more energy to be used.
Could you tell me which model you own? There are so many models to choose from.
It’s a Gen 3. Might be harder to find now as many new models since then.
@@MiamiCOIndiana Thank you
Thank you! This was very helpful.
Glad it was of some value to you. Thanks for watching.
Not a "plant" of any kind I can assure you. Did your unit come with a warranty? I would think it would have unless you bought it used. And truthful here I'm on my 4th season in a row with the same unit showed in this video...same bulbs and works and heats like first year I bought it. The only thing I do is clean the unit out once a season, and clean the filter on the unit weekly...that's it.
I have to ask, how well does the toaster heat your home?
Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time.
hi I have a question concerning the oil filled radiator, say there are 2 models with the same 2400 wattage but one has 9 fins and the other has 13. Is the heating gonna be the same since they have the same amount of watts, or is the 13 fins better? Also in my opinion (which could be wrong) the one with 13 fins is for me more efficient since it has more oils than the 9 fins which in return would heat the room faster and make thermostat intervals longer which saves money. What do you think?
+Heanly Hyral 2400 watts is more than rated for the USA where I live, the max of any heater using standard 110 is 1500 watts max. However to answer your question I would agree that the more fins would seem a better option. maybe someone that uses these can give results as I've never seen one with that many fins on it.
I don't have no heat coming from the heat nothing but air
try resetting the unit. To do so turn off unit unplug the unit for at least one min then plug back in and turn on. See if that works.