Great discussion! I just threw on a pair of Kryp Fr trail on the front and rear about a month ago. Absolutely love the tires. They roll quick for an enduro tire, air up to a true 2.4 inch, lean in predictable ( no float zone), have a well defined edge, and inspire confidence. The big gains I have felt on this tire over an assegai are 1 mud grip/ clearance ( less of that mayonnaise on the shoe feeling ) 2 more defined edge 3 a nicer grip- slip characteristic. When this tire breaks traction breaks its a lot more gentle, and regains grips quicker>> means much easier to explore the limits. As a trail tire I have not had any issues with punctures, light tire pinging sensation, or excessive rolling.
I 100% agree dude! I really hope to see the trail casing get that soft compound in the future just for a touch more confidence from the front. But other than that they are perfect!
Got a Kryptotal enduro/soft front and a Xnotal trail/endurance rear a few weeks ago. Had been running a Maxxis 2.5 DHR maxx grip front and dissector 2.4 rear. Working great in the techy rocky trails in Austin. Really liike the offamber performance. Looking forward to Angel Fire DH in June. Riding a Revel Rail 29er with a 38.
They definitely need softer compounds for the trail and enduro casings. I was running Krypto Fr and Re enduro combo most of the summer doing enduro/trail riding with some racing. Best tires I've run by far and have almost 1000km on them, front almost looks new and rear is not bad considering. No torn off side knobs like other brands.
Damn that’s awesome!! Usually tires with longer life usually sacrifice traction. But doesn’t sound like the case with whatever magic conti has in these tires!
I ran a Tacky Chan front over the summer and it's excellent. I switch the front over for the Magic Marry in the winter, it punches through leaves and pine straw on the wetter fall / winter trails. I folded the side knobs over on the Magic Marry in the summer when the trails are dried out and hard. The Tacky Chan side knobs don't fold and as a bonus it rolls a little faster. TC feels a lot like an improved DHF. I'll put it back on as trails dry out in spring.
Bro! I've had the Continental Kryptotal F and Kryptotal R for about 2 months now. Just the trail casing. I LOVE THEM! Live in Albuquerque NM so been able to ride all winter in our great foothills which offers everything when the higher forrest trails are frozen. Mainly loose over hardpack with chucky granite rocks here and there and steep sections, but also mellow flowy stuff too. I was a big Assagai F exo+ and Agressor dd guy before. But the Kryptotal F & R Trail casing is holding up strong. Amazing grip on the downs and steep loose ups. I love that it grips so well but also feels fast rolling. I'm training for my first race and these tires feel good on loose and hardpack flowy mellow trails and steep stuff. My front tire tends to slip a little bit when I lean hard on super sharp turns, but gets better when i run lower pressure around 20-23. A little stickier would be nice like you said! Cheers bro!
I've tried just about every Maxxis combo and I was blown away the first time I tired the Kryptotal Fr & Re tires. I've kept them on my bike and haven't even thought about throwing Maxxis back on.
The trail/endurance casings. I do wish they had more options with their casing and compounds. But I think the trail/endurance is closer to a 3C MaxxTerra than a Maxxis Dual Compound. But it is kinda like comparing apples and oranges when you get to comparing compounds.
Glad you felt the same thing I did on my Assegai. Great grip until you don’t and this caused me to have a couple pretty hard falls last year. Trying the Krypto in a 2.4 Downhill in their super soft for my Patrol front tire this summer. Interested to see your reviews this year on the Continentals.
That’s what I love about Schwalbe. You get the magic Mary ultra soft with the trail casing and the harder compounds with a little thicker casing for rear protection.
Really great chat and I was confused by Contentials marketing and then their offering. Their marketing made it sound like you could pick a casing and compound infact they call it the "INFINITE POSSIBILITIES". Excited to see what you think about the tacky chans.
I've been using the Krypto F and R on my sentinel for a while, they are great! I have them in the DH casing and supersoft compound since I couldn't find a soft version for the rear, but for some reason the rubber on the rear tire is much softer than the front, wish it was the other way around... Might've been a early issue that they've since fixed, looking forward to trying the Xynotal once the trails dry up!
I agree with the trail enduance weight and sidewalls feel like exo. Same with feeling like dual compound. I ran krypto fr and re when it was warm out. I noticed the drifting front and rear evenly. It wasn't one end or the other. It was predictable like you said. Felt like when I had a Disector and hit the open transition between the center lugs and the outside lugs. Endurance tread holds up better than Maxterra and rolls faster. When it got cold the Endurance compound git sketchy. Had to throw the dhf and dhr2 Maxterra to feel comfortable. Unfortunately around here in MO an exo and trail casing don't work. Sidewalls are too thin. Run my rears at 28psi and still put a hole in the sidewall I can put a couple fingers in just like an exo. The enduro casing looks to have the same sidewall as the trail. If I buy another set I'll have to buy downhill soft rear and enduro soft front. I think I'll loose the speed of the trail though. Time is running out, but still haven't made up my mind what I'm going to run.
I got a buddy out in Cali and he swears by the conti DH super soft argatol front and dh soft krypto rear. Says he feels they pedal easier uphill then assegai exo+ maxxgrip and exo+ dissector… I can not confirm or deny… but he is a super nerd like me and definitely trust what he tells me. Just food for thought 🍻
100% agree, been running them for close to year now. Initially I blew up 2 trail/endurance tyres within a week, so pretty much had to move the enduro casing rear. I love the endurance compound in the rear but require an enduro casing in my area. I run them on my trail and enduro bikes but currently moving away from them on my enduro due to the exact points you've made here. My ideal setup which they dont offer either would be 2.4 xynotal rear endurance compound in enduro casing, and 2.5 kryptotal Fe enduro super soft. They honestly compete so well with maxxis but just so limited with offering. MAKE THE TYRES WE WANT On a side note ive been runnign through brand, next month is Veetyre Attack HPL front and FSX rear. They arent avaliable in my country and ive imported them from the US, great online reviews. Hopefully they can compete with the conti's!
They absolutely need a Kryptotal-F Enduro SUPER SOFT. Myself and a lot of my friends like the Maxxgrip DHF, and the DD and DH casings and unnecessarily heavy for a front tire for us guys who pedal up.
I've been running the Kryptotal Fr front and Xynotal rear in enduro casing for about a year now. This seems to be the most popular config i've seen out on the trails. Still plenty of life left although my xynotal is starting to wear down. Also noticing the casing has softened a little more. I'm hoping conti gives us more casing/compound options in the future. Would love to run trail casing ultra soft comp front and enduro casing endurance comp xynotal rear.
I had the Krypto RE Trail Endurance/ Krypto FR Enduro Soft combination on my hardtail. It does pedal really well. And the soft in the front is as you said pretty much comparable to Schwalbe Soft or MaxTerra. Downside as mentioned, you get SuperSoft with Continental only with Downhillcasing. With Schwalbe Ultra Soft is available on SuperTrail, but SuperTrail 2.4 Mary or Big BEtty rear already weigh around 1200 to 1250grams. I have been running SuperTrail on my Enduro for a while and I never had a puncture/snake bite in 2.5 years. The Trail casing on the Continental does feel a lot weaker than SuperTrail. Still, I ordered the Continental combo again for my new trailbike, partially for aesthetic reasons ;)
That’s good feedback dude! I agree the conti trail casing feels much weaker then Schwalbe trail. The conti enduro casing is pretty light for how tough it feels
Aaron Gwin was heavily involved with Kenda for a couple years "fixing" their tires. Aaron states that to HIM having a tire which was predictable was far more important than one which had more grip (IE: Assegai). That was my complaint with Assegai, you were locked in until you were lying on the ground, wondering what happened. With the Pinners they gave a noticeable warning/feel of when you were approaching the end of traction, which was fantastic to ride. I rode their Pinner's in both Trail and DH casings. Unfortunately with them you can only get the soft compound with the DH casing. That tire was excellent, but again had no compound/casing options. This is also why NOW I prefer the DHF over the Assegai. The Ass-guy has more grip, but no warning. I assume Aaron is doing the same with Vee now that he's changed sponsors to them. Continentals are SO close to checking all the boxes!
I've heard March for new *otal stock. Excited to try Krypt front since enduro/dh casings have been out of stock just about as long as I've known about them. Currently on a Xynotal on the rear, Krypt Rear 2.6 on the front, seems to be working well. Here's hoping they put out a 2.6 krypt front as well, 2.6 rear 2.4 front seems odd even on an eeb..
You want a good looking tire… WTB! Black tire, gray logo. Stealth look, goes with everything. Vigilante front and Trail Boss rear are kind of on the heavy side but very grippy. Anyway I’m with you on the compound. As important, if not more important than the tread.
The krypto rear is good, when is just loose conditions only, i like it alot when parks are blown out and its just silt. The xynotal has been my favorite all round from Continental, i raced the dh casings (soft r, supersoft f) and was taken away with how easy acceleration is our of turns or accidental overbrakes, Kryptofront is good everywhere, really cant miss with either one when used in the soft compound. Also xynotals are more available in dh casings for those who struggle to find the DH krypto fr 🤐
Same experience here. I couldn't find the weight, casing and compound combo to spend the money for a test. I run EXO+ due to all the sharp edge rocks on our trails. Maybe maxxis has spoiled us with too many options, and I probably couldnt really tell the difference. ha.
Interested to see how you like them. I can't see any reason to switch from the Dissector F/R maxx terra for trail riding, they're the fastest rolling tire with the minimum confidence level for me and very light. I've been debating trying a set of conti's on my DH bike instead of assagai/dhr2. Riding season is right around the corner!
My buddy swears by the DH super soft argatol/ dh soft krypto rear on his enduro bike. He said traction for days and easier to pedal up hill then his assegai / dissector exo+ maxxgrip setup!
I always was a fan of Schwalbe and Continental, and did not like pop maxxis :) This new Conti line is great, but agree with you - lighter casings lack of softer compounds as the main competitors can offer such things. I run Kr-F/Xyno. Indeed it is great combo, but Xyno prone to be unpredictable on wet and unclean (leaves, twigs, needles etc.) surfaces. In such cases I miss Kr-R. However, I decided to test NN (ST, Soft) in the rear, or maybe go with NN/WW combo, later maybe TC/NN. Why don’t you like NN? I had the previous generation NN, they were disaster, but the current versions seems like way improved
I have tried to like the NN … given is so many chances. It’s completely unpredictable and doesn’t have enough traction for is weight. That tire leaves me on my butt cheeks every time 😂
So my recent front tires have gone DHF 2.5 -> assegai 2.5 -> krypto 2.4 enduro casing/soft compound. The krypto is by far the best, imo. There is grip for days. If Conti would make the enduro casing/endurance compound I'd be stoked
You should definitly try WTB trailbooss 2.4/ vigilante 2.5 they are fast, gripy, soft compaund on light castings, hard on heavy castings and no yellow marks.
looking forward to seeing the tire reviews and head to head. Have you tried the VIttoria Mazza, which is from the same designer of the Minon but updated?
I have tried the Mazza. I believe I did a video one it. I liked it but didn’t live it. I found the trail casing to be too flimsy and the enduro casing too heavy. And the rubber compound was too hard for a front tire in my opinion. Minion is still my go to 🍻
@@dustinbjohnson I just saw that on Conti's site. Would the Re or DHR make an acceptable front tire? Last year and half been running Ground Control T5/T7 or Rekon EXO in the rear(also 2.6 cause my 3 favorite trails are just sand pits and I ride hardtails). Maybe I should be reading DHR as front tire reviews.
So Ive been enduro racing these tires and also trail riding /training on them for a year now. One thing to maybe try is the Krypt FR on the front and rear. dont go the Krypt RE. on the back, the spacing of the FR is such that it is faster than the RE, and you can stick to your trail casing out back and the Enduro casing up front as you do now. Ive settled on the Enduro casing , soft compound Krypt. FR on the front and rear, , I'll also run the Xyno, Enduro casing soft in the back for harder pack courses. Just a thought as you explore Contis. @continental You are exactly right though Dustin they really need to offer the different compound in the casing lineup, I really want the Krypt in super soft up front and the Krypt Fr in the enduro casing in the harder endurance compound out back.
I put the Kyrpto RE endurance up front just to try. Really like the rolling but still just lacks a bit of confidence on high speed hard pack. Enduro soft Fr was an improvement but still just doesn’t have that supple maxxis feel of a maxxgrip or maxxterra. Going to keep testing
Would rly hear your oppinion about Kryptotal Re in front like ppl like to use DHR2 in front and also running Kryptotal Fr in rear. Since the Re has little less rolling resistance that Fr. Argotal seems also good rolling tire compared to magic mary - would you like to test this tire too in future?
Krypto RE on front and rear over here. 2.6 enduro front and 2.4 trail rear. It’s perfect in my opinion. Rear is extremely predictable to slide, long lasting, and rolls better than DHRII for similar lug aggressiveness. Front 2.6 allows those higher lean angles and grips beautifully. Enduro casing might be overkill? but it doesn’t bother me as is
I’m waiting for the Krypto fr enduro super soft…still on the Assegai maxxgrip Exo+, then I’ll run the xynotal enduro soft in the rear and I’ll drop the Big M for Conti
My buddy out in Cali says he finds the dh super soft argatol and dh soft krypto rear to roll faster and has as much grip the. His exo+ maxxgrip assegai/ dissector setup. But I can not confirm or deny haha 😂 but he’s fast and I trust his opinion. Just good for though 🍻
@@dustinbjohnson my buddy is selling those exact tires, I think if you go fast and loose it’s bang on! but as you said Conti please give us enduro super soft casings and trail soft 🚀
Trail casing isn't too light for rear ? The Kryptotal-Re with enduro casing + Endurance compound doesn't exists if I understood correctly? edit: OK you talk about it @ 11:12 :D kinda weird they don't offer this enduro+endurance combo
Just curious, does anyone save their new tires for race days then go back to their year-old tires for in-between riding and training days? I always have a good day on brand new tires and like everyone else I ride way harder in races so this year I’m gonna keep a couple of new sets only for races.
I don’t race but I have noticed on most of my tires they take a ride or two to feel full grip. Noticed the first ride on a fresh tire slides a bit more then normal. But no data to back it up. Just a feel thing
Do you still like the feel of the Kryptotal front as you’ve gotten more time on these tires? I feel the same about the Assegai. It’s quite vague so its hard to tell when you’re on the edge of traction.
how do the sidewalls feel on the trail endurance tire I am considering buying some enduro softs but I am struggling a lot to find any n stock here in Australia. i have had an assegai 27.5x2.6 for a year or so and it just has zero sidewall support. its a 3c maxx terra
I actually really like the trail casing. Feels somewhere between exo and exo+. Been riding the enduro casing up from. It’s really good too but I like how the trail complies to the trail a little bit better for my style of riding
Dustin , I’ve been a Subscriber of yours a couple years now and slowly turned into a Tire nerd. There’s not many MTB tire testing and Review channels,and if there is there badly produced ones. I have more than one MTB So I’m always looking to see if companies are launching new tire Designs. I have a Santa Cruz Nomad CC V5 that came specd with Double Down 3C maxxgrip rear 2.4 and 2.5 Assegai DD maxxgrip and I took them off and slapped on Magic Marys Super Trail Addix Soft 2.6 and what a difference man ! I’m currently researching what tire or tires To put on my 130mm Travel Aggressive Trail bike Hardtail capable of running 650b x3.00 but I’m not looking to go anything more then 2.5 or 2.6 Any suggestions to check out let me know 👍😎
How much psi you're running in the front and rear ? I'm running 2-3psi less than I was using in my old maxxis. Riding in BC running Front DH supersoft and Rear DH soft so might not be relevant for your application. Worth a try
I did the Kryptotal front and Xynotal rear on my 120mm in soft enduro but haven’t got enough miles on them yet. Bought a Kryptotal rear as well just to try. The tread alignment on the Chinese made ones are too poor for my taste, I had to get the German ones and I don’t wanna change them to Chinese versions. So I’ll probably go back to Maxxis on there.
@@dustinbjohnson How’s the tread alignment? Basically look to see how well the sipes are aligned in the center tread. German ones are perfect and the Chinese ones (I went to 4 stores and saw 18 examples) varied up to 1mm out of alignment. I don’t think you would feel it on the trail but visually it drives me nuts, like a crooked sticker. The branding is also a slightly different colour and didn’t match the Ohlins as well. AFAIK all manufacturers have tread alignment issues in MTB tires, but IMO they shouldn’t. Maxxis always has some perfect so I select those. I feel like they launched out of Germany and were received well, then shipped the manufacturing to China and the alignment is bad, the inside of the casing is not as consistent either, so worse quality but didn’t drop the price. I’d also like more casing/compound options but recognize they matched them based on intended speed and application. Super soft wouldn’t work on a trail casing as if you were going fast enough to need super soft you’d blow the tires up first run and would hate the lack of sidewall support. Admittedly I’m heavier as well.
I’d maybe run the Kryptonal again if I can get a soft compound but lighter casing. Trail/endurance might be the worst tire I’ve ever run in the wet. My Schwalbe XCish tires are better in wet….
It’s not the compound. The endurance compound is stickier than max terra. Way better grip on rock and root when the compound matters and the tread doesn’t. Loose over hard is on the tread, I’m not sure which of the 3 thread patterns that conti sells that are for loose over hard, not sure if it’s the xontals or the argotals.
@@dustinbjohnson Any update? I just picked up a Krypto enduro/soft front and am looking at picking up a Krypto trail/endurance rear thats on sale as well
I always enjoy your “tire talks”. I have WAY too many tires but always enjoy buying more.
It’s so addicting 😂🍻
Great discussion! I just threw on a pair of Kryp Fr trail on the front and rear about a month ago. Absolutely love the tires. They roll quick for an enduro tire, air up to a true 2.4 inch, lean in predictable ( no float zone), have a well defined edge, and inspire confidence. The big gains I have felt on this tire over an assegai are 1 mud grip/ clearance ( less of that mayonnaise on the shoe feeling ) 2 more defined edge 3 a nicer grip- slip characteristic. When this tire breaks traction breaks its a lot more gentle, and regains grips quicker>> means much easier to explore the limits. As a trail tire I have not had any issues with punctures, light tire pinging sensation, or excessive rolling.
I 100% agree dude! I really hope to see the trail casing get that soft compound in the future just for a touch more confidence from the front. But other than that they are perfect!
Got a Kryptotal enduro/soft front and a Xnotal trail/endurance rear a few weeks ago. Had been running a Maxxis 2.5 DHR maxx grip front and dissector 2.4 rear. Working great in the techy rocky trails in Austin. Really liike the offamber performance. Looking forward to Angel Fire DH in June. Riding a Revel Rail 29er with a 38.
They definitely need softer compounds for the trail and enduro casings. I was running Krypto Fr and Re enduro combo most of the summer doing enduro/trail riding with some racing. Best tires I've run by far and have almost 1000km on them, front almost looks new and rear is not bad considering. No torn off side knobs like other brands.
Damn that’s awesome!! Usually tires with longer life usually sacrifice traction. But doesn’t sound like the case with whatever magic conti has in these tires!
I ran a Tacky Chan front over the summer and it's excellent. I switch the front over for the Magic Marry in the winter, it punches through leaves and pine straw on the wetter fall / winter trails.
I folded the side knobs over on the Magic Marry in the summer when the trails are dried out and hard. The Tacky Chan side knobs don't fold and as a bonus it rolls a little faster. TC feels a lot like an improved DHF. I'll put it back on as trails dry out in spring.
Well that’s good to hear! Now even more excited to test out the tacky Chan!
Bro! I've had the Continental Kryptotal F and Kryptotal R for about 2 months now. Just the trail casing. I LOVE THEM! Live in Albuquerque NM so been able to ride all winter in our great foothills which offers everything when the higher forrest trails are frozen. Mainly loose over hardpack with chucky granite rocks here and there and steep sections, but also mellow flowy stuff too. I was a big Assagai F exo+ and Agressor dd guy before. But the Kryptotal F & R Trail casing is holding up strong. Amazing grip on the downs and steep loose ups. I love that it grips so well but also feels fast rolling. I'm training for my first race and these tires feel good on loose and hardpack flowy mellow trails and steep stuff. My front tire tends to slip a little bit when I lean hard on super sharp turns, but gets better when i run lower pressure around 20-23. A little stickier would be nice like you said! Cheers bro!
Hell yeah bro!! I’ll mess around with psi and see how that affects things 🍻
I've tried just about every Maxxis combo and I was blown away the first time I tired the Kryptotal Fr & Re tires. I've kept them on my bike and haven't even thought about throwing Maxxis back on.
What compound you running in the conti’s?
The trail/endurance casings. I do wish they had more options with their casing and compounds. But I think the trail/endurance is closer to a 3C MaxxTerra than a Maxxis Dual Compound. But it is kinda like comparing apples and oranges when you get to comparing compounds.
Continental is speccing some new bikes with the Trail/Soft and Enduro/Super-Soft stuff, so it looks like they listened to us!
Oh hell yes!! I saw something about that. That’s very promising!!
Glad you felt the same thing I did on my Assegai. Great grip until you don’t and this caused me to have a couple pretty hard falls last year. Trying the Krypto in a 2.4 Downhill in their super soft for my Patrol front tire this summer. Interested to see your reviews this year on the Continentals.
That’s what I love about Schwalbe. You get the magic Mary ultra soft with the trail casing and the harder compounds with a little thicker casing for rear protection.
100% agree!
Great review!
I appreciate that homie!
I have had trouble mounting the Double Downs and most Schwalbe tires. Are your Contys easy to mount? Love your channel. Thank you.
Sharpie or paint marker can solve bright yellow maxxis problem 🤙
Currently running an Exo+ DHR2 upfront & a DD Dissector out back. This Conti set looks a good match.
Really great chat and I was confused by Contentials marketing and then their offering. Their marketing made it sound like you could pick a casing and compound infact they call it the "INFINITE POSSIBILITIES". Excited to see what you think about the tacky chans.
Thanks dude! I have not been able to take these tires off my bike. I’m hooked! Krypto fr enduro soft - xynotal trail endurance is my new go-to setup!
I've been using the Krypto F and R on my sentinel for a while, they are great! I have them in the DH casing and supersoft compound since I couldn't find a soft version for the rear, but for some reason the rubber on the rear tire is much softer than the front, wish it was the other way around... Might've been a early issue that they've since fixed, looking forward to trying the Xynotal once the trails dry up!
That’s interesting! I’ll keep an eye out for that. I do want to try a super soft in the future
I agree with the trail enduance weight and sidewalls feel like exo. Same with feeling like dual compound. I ran krypto fr and re when it was warm out. I noticed the drifting front and rear evenly. It wasn't one end or the other. It was predictable like you said. Felt like when I had a Disector and hit the open transition between the center lugs and the outside lugs. Endurance tread holds up better than Maxterra and rolls faster. When it got cold the Endurance compound git sketchy. Had to throw the dhf and dhr2 Maxterra to feel comfortable. Unfortunately around here in MO an exo and trail casing don't work. Sidewalls are too thin. Run my rears at 28psi and still put a hole in the sidewall I can put a couple fingers in just like an exo. The enduro casing looks to have the same sidewall as the trail. If I buy another set I'll have to buy downhill soft rear and enduro soft front. I think I'll loose the speed of the trail though. Time is running out, but still haven't made up my mind what I'm going to run.
I got a buddy out in Cali and he swears by the conti DH super soft argatol front and dh soft krypto rear. Says he feels they pedal easier uphill then assegai exo+ maxxgrip and exo+ dissector… I can not confirm or deny… but he is a super nerd like me and definitely trust what he tells me. Just food for thought 🍻
100% agree, been running them for close to year now. Initially I blew up 2 trail/endurance tyres within a week, so pretty much had to move the enduro casing rear. I love the endurance compound in the rear but require an enduro casing in my area. I run them on my trail and enduro bikes but currently moving away from them on my enduro due to the exact points you've made here. My ideal setup which they dont offer either would be 2.4 xynotal rear endurance compound in enduro casing, and 2.5 kryptotal Fe enduro super soft. They honestly compete so well with maxxis but just so limited with offering. MAKE THE TYRES WE WANT
On a side note ive been runnign through brand, next month is Veetyre Attack HPL front and FSX rear. They arent avaliable in my country and ive imported them from the US, great online reviews. Hopefully they can compete with the conti's!
I saw a review on those Vee tires! They look impressive!
Pretty sure they're coming with more options for their tires as well
I hope so! 🙏
They absolutely need a Kryptotal-F Enduro SUPER SOFT. Myself and a lot of my friends like the Maxxgrip DHF, and the DD and DH casings and unnecessarily heavy for a front tire for us guys who pedal up.
Yes dude!! I hope continental see this video or already has it in the works!
@@dustinbjohnson I sent Continental an e-mail last year on this subject, and they said they didn't have plans for SS/Enduro at that time. :-(
I've been running the Kryptotal Fr front and Xynotal rear in enduro casing for about a year now. This seems to be the most popular config i've seen out on the trails. Still plenty of life left although my xynotal is starting to wear down. Also noticing the casing has softened a little more. I'm hoping conti gives us more casing/compound options in the future. Would love to run trail casing ultra soft comp front and enduro casing endurance comp xynotal rear.
Hell yeah! I agree!
I had the Krypto RE Trail Endurance/ Krypto FR Enduro Soft combination on my hardtail. It does pedal really well. And the soft in the front is as you said pretty much comparable to Schwalbe Soft or MaxTerra. Downside as mentioned, you get SuperSoft with Continental only with Downhillcasing. With Schwalbe Ultra Soft is available on SuperTrail, but SuperTrail 2.4 Mary or Big BEtty rear already weigh around 1200 to 1250grams. I have been running SuperTrail on my Enduro for a while and I never had a puncture/snake bite in 2.5 years. The Trail casing on the Continental does feel a lot weaker than SuperTrail. Still, I ordered the Continental combo again for my new trailbike, partially for aesthetic reasons ;)
That’s good feedback dude! I agree the conti trail casing feels much weaker then Schwalbe trail. The conti enduro casing is pretty light for how tough it feels
Aaron Gwin was heavily involved with Kenda for a couple years "fixing" their tires. Aaron states that to HIM having a tire which was predictable was far more important than one which had more grip (IE: Assegai). That was my complaint with Assegai, you were locked in until you were lying on the ground, wondering what happened. With the Pinners they gave a noticeable warning/feel of when you were approaching the end of traction, which was fantastic to ride. I rode their Pinner's in both Trail and DH casings. Unfortunately with them you can only get the soft compound with the DH casing. That tire was excellent, but again had no compound/casing options.
This is also why NOW I prefer the DHF over the Assegai. The Ass-guy has more grip, but no warning. I assume Aaron is doing the same with Vee now that he's changed sponsors to them.
Continentals are SO close to checking all the boxes!
Dude this comment!! 💯 you’re spot on 🍻
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I've heard March for new *otal stock. Excited to try Krypt front since enduro/dh casings have been out of stock just about as long as I've known about them. Currently on a Xynotal on the rear, Krypt Rear 2.6 on the front, seems to be working well. Here's hoping they put out a 2.6 krypt front as well, 2.6 rear 2.4 front seems odd even on an eeb..
Definitely seems like a solid setup!
You want a good looking tire… WTB! Black tire, gray logo. Stealth look, goes with everything. Vigilante front and Trail Boss rear are kind of on the heavy side but very grippy. Anyway I’m with you on the compound. As important, if not more important than the tread.
Yah dude vigi / trail boss is a dope combo. I have rode it before. Crazy traction. But not the fastest of rollers
def cute color bike
Super cute
The krypto rear is good, when is just loose conditions only, i like it alot when parks are blown out and its just silt. The xynotal has been my favorite all round from Continental, i raced the dh casings (soft r, supersoft f) and was taken away with how easy acceleration is our of turns or accidental overbrakes, Kryptofront is good everywhere, really cant miss with either one when used in the soft compound. Also xynotals are more available in dh casings for those who struggle to find the DH krypto fr 🤐
Oh damn! Maybe I need to try the xynotal up front!
Same experience here. I couldn't find the weight, casing and compound combo to spend the money for a test. I run EXO+ due to all the sharp edge rocks on our trails. Maybe maxxis has spoiled us with too many options, and I probably couldnt really tell the difference. ha.
Yah man! So far I’m liking the enduro soft Krypto. But not ready to king it my new front tire just yet
Interested to see how you like them. I can't see any reason to switch from the Dissector F/R maxx terra for trail riding, they're the fastest rolling tire with the minimum confidence level for me and very light. I've been debating trying a set of conti's on my DH bike instead of assagai/dhr2. Riding season is right around the corner!
My buddy swears by the DH super soft argatol/ dh soft krypto rear on his enduro bike. He said traction for days and easier to pedal up hill then his assegai / dissector exo+ maxxgrip setup!
I always was a fan of Schwalbe and Continental, and did not like pop maxxis :)
This new Conti line is great, but agree with you - lighter casings lack of softer compounds as the main competitors can offer such things.
I run Kr-F/Xyno. Indeed it is great combo, but Xyno prone to be unpredictable on wet and unclean (leaves, twigs, needles etc.) surfaces. In such cases I miss Kr-R. However, I decided to test NN (ST, Soft) in the rear, or maybe go with NN/WW combo, later maybe TC/NN.
Why don’t you like NN? I had the previous generation NN, they were disaster, but the current versions seems like way improved
I have tried to like the NN … given is so many chances. It’s completely unpredictable and doesn’t have enough traction for is weight. That tire leaves me on my butt cheeks every time 😂
would be stoked to hear your thoughts on the tacky chan
Working on that one! Having a hard time taking off the Conti’s! They are my new go to’s!
Kryptotal Fr trail comes with1040g and enduro one comes with 1125g so not a big gap totally worth it in my opinion
Excited to give the enduro soft a go! 85grams is definitely worth it if the grip is better 🍻
So my recent front tires have gone DHF 2.5 -> assegai 2.5 -> krypto 2.4 enduro casing/soft compound. The krypto is by far the best, imo. There is grip for days. If Conti would make the enduro casing/endurance compound I'd be stoked
Good to hear that you like the Krypto!! Can’t wait to get time in the soft rubber compound
You should definitly try WTB trailbooss 2.4/ vigilante 2.5 they are fast, gripy, soft compaund on light castings, hard on heavy castings and no yellow marks.
I tried those last year! I actually really liked them. Vigi felt similar to a magic Mary. Which is a tire I like
looking forward to seeing the tire reviews and head to head. Have you tried the VIttoria Mazza, which is from the same designer of the Minon but updated?
I have tried the Mazza. I believe I did a video one it. I liked it but didn’t live it. I found the trail casing to be too flimsy and the enduro casing too heavy. And the rubber compound was too hard for a front tire in my opinion. Minion is still my go to 🍻
@@dustinbjohnson makes sense. It looked hopeful since Conti doesn't offer the Kryptopal or Xynotal in 2.6 size, which I want/like up front.
@@mellissanash7517 you can get a krypto Re in a 2.6 and run that up front. Very similar to a dhr2.
@@dustinbjohnson I just saw that on Conti's site. Would the Re or DHR make an acceptable front tire? Last year and half been running Ground Control T5/T7 or Rekon EXO in the rear(also 2.6 cause my 3 favorite trails are just sand pits and I ride hardtails). Maybe I should be reading DHR as front tire reviews.
What do you think of the Nobby Nic?
So Ive been enduro racing these tires and also trail riding /training on them for a year now. One thing to maybe try is the Krypt FR on the front and rear. dont go the Krypt RE. on the back, the spacing of the FR is such that it is faster than the RE, and you can stick to your trail casing out back and the Enduro casing up front as you do now. Ive settled on the Enduro casing , soft compound Krypt. FR on the front and rear, , I'll also run the Xyno, Enduro casing soft in the back for harder pack courses. Just a thought as you explore Contis. @continental You are exactly right though Dustin they really need to offer the different compound in the casing lineup, I really want the Krypt in super soft up front and the Krypt Fr in the enduro casing in the harder endurance compound out back.
I put the Kyrpto RE endurance up front just to try. Really like the rolling but still just lacks a bit of confidence on high speed hard pack. Enduro soft Fr was an improvement but still just doesn’t have that supple maxxis feel of a maxxgrip or maxxterra. Going to keep testing
copy, Id never run the Re up front ...lots of enduro racers running Krypt Enduro soft FR front and rear.@@dustinbjohnson
Would rly hear your oppinion about Kryptotal Re in front like ppl like to use DHR2 in front and also running Kryptotal Fr in rear. Since the Re has little less rolling resistance that Fr. Argotal seems also good rolling tire compared to magic mary - would you like to test this tire too in future?
Actually mounting up a krypto re on the front as we speak
Krypto RE on front and rear over here. 2.6 enduro front and 2.4 trail rear. It’s perfect in my opinion. Rear is extremely predictable to slide, long lasting, and rolls better than DHRII for similar lug aggressiveness. Front 2.6 allows those higher lean angles and grips beautifully. Enduro casing might be overkill? but it doesn’t bother me as is
I’m waiting for the Krypto fr enduro super soft…still on the Assegai maxxgrip Exo+, then I’ll run the xynotal enduro soft in the rear and I’ll drop the Big M for Conti
My buddy out in Cali says he finds the dh super soft argatol and dh soft krypto rear to roll faster and has as much grip the. His exo+ maxxgrip assegai/ dissector setup. But I can not confirm or deny haha 😂 but he’s fast and I trust his opinion. Just good for though 🍻
@@dustinbjohnson my buddy is selling those exact tires, I think if you go fast and loose it’s bang on! but as you said Conti please give us enduro super soft casings and trail soft 🚀
@@MrDavecore777 yes!! 🙌
Trail casing isn't too light for rear ? The Kryptotal-Re with enduro casing + Endurance compound doesn't exists if I understood correctly? edit: OK you talk about it @ 11:12 :D kinda weird they don't offer this enduro+endurance combo
For me personally the trail casing out back it awesome! Super supportive. I run and 1-2 psi less then EXO maxxis
Just curious, does anyone save their new tires for race days then go back to their year-old tires for in-between riding and training days? I always have a good day on brand new tires and like everyone else I ride way harder in races so this year I’m gonna keep a couple of new sets only for races.
I don’t race but I have noticed on most of my tires they take a ride or two to feel full grip. Noticed the first ride on a fresh tire slides a bit more then normal. But no data to back it up. Just a feel thing
Do you still like the feel of the Kryptotal front as you’ve gotten more time on these tires? I feel the same about the Assegai. It’s quite vague so its hard to tell when you’re on the edge of traction.
Krypto Front enduro soft my new go to 🤌
@@dustinbjohnson wow even over the DHF?
@@JLawMTB oh yeah man! I’m got some good miles on these contis. Blown away good
Did yours smell? When I ordered my Contis the rubber smell was overwhelming, like an automotive tire shop. After a few days it went away at least.
Hmm not really..? Smells like a tire to me 😂
how do the sidewalls feel on the trail endurance tire I am considering buying some enduro softs but I am struggling a lot to find any n stock here in Australia. i have had an assegai 27.5x2.6 for a year or so and it just has zero sidewall support. its a 3c maxx terra
I actually really like the trail casing. Feels somewhere between exo and exo+. Been riding the enduro casing up from. It’s really good too but I like how the trail complies to the trail a little bit better for my style of riding
Awesome thanks mate I’ll definitely consider them then.
I enjoy the assigai by maxxis!
Was my go to for awhile! Really digging the new contis!
@@dustinbjohnson do you use that for just the front or both front and back
Dustin how do you feel about the Schwalbe Tacky Chan you tested?.
I still haven’t tried it… I’m in love with these conti’s and don’t want to take them off yet 😂
Dustin , I’ve been a Subscriber of yours a couple years now and slowly turned into a Tire nerd. There’s not many MTB tire testing and Review channels,and if there is there badly produced ones. I have more than one MTB So I’m always looking to see if companies are launching new tire Designs. I have a Santa Cruz Nomad CC V5 that came specd with Double Down 3C maxxgrip rear 2.4 and 2.5 Assegai DD maxxgrip and I took them off and slapped on Magic Marys Super Trail Addix Soft 2.6 and what a difference man ! I’m currently researching what tire or tires To put on my 130mm Travel Aggressive Trail bike Hardtail capable of running 650b x3.00 but I’m not looking to go anything more then 2.5 or 2.6 Any suggestions to check out let me know 👍😎
How much psi you're running in the front and rear ? I'm running 2-3psi less than I was using in my old maxxis. Riding in BC running Front DH supersoft and Rear DH soft so might not be relevant for your application. Worth a try
I’ll give it a try! Usually run 23-24 from and 26-27 rear
that is what I used tu run approximately . Now i'm running in steep natural trail 19-22psi, bike park 21-24psi @@dustinbjohnson
100% i run less on my conti's, more on maxxis and more again on schwalbe@@gnar_tar
I did the Kryptotal front and Xynotal rear on my 120mm in soft enduro but haven’t got enough miles on them yet. Bought a Kryptotal rear as well just to try. The tread alignment on the Chinese made ones are too poor for my taste, I had to get the German ones and I don’t wanna change them to Chinese versions. So I’ll probably go back to Maxxis on there.
Mine say China 🙄
@@dustinbjohnson How’s the tread alignment? Basically look to see how well the sipes are aligned in the center tread. German ones are perfect and the Chinese ones (I went to 4 stores and saw 18 examples) varied up to 1mm out of alignment. I don’t think you would feel it on the trail but visually it drives me nuts, like a crooked sticker. The branding is also a slightly different colour and didn’t match the Ohlins as well.
AFAIK all manufacturers have tread alignment issues in MTB tires, but IMO they shouldn’t. Maxxis always has some perfect so I select those.
I feel like they launched out of Germany and were received well, then shipped the manufacturing to China and the alignment is bad, the inside of the casing is not as consistent either, so worse quality but didn’t drop the price.
I’d also like more casing/compound options but recognize they matched them based on intended speed and application. Super soft wouldn’t work on a trail casing as if you were going fast enough to need super soft you’d blow the tires up first run and would hate the lack of sidewall support. Admittedly I’m heavier as well.
Comparison of tacky Chan vs magic Mary would be nice. What’s the difference
I’m very curious the difference myself. Will update once I get time on the tacky Chan
is the enduro casing similar to an exo+ or more like normal exo? thx
Trail casing feels like an EXO and the enduro feels like EXO+ and I have not tried their DH casing but I hear it’s more like DD from maxxis
My exact thoughts. Otherwise been enjoying kryptotals f & r since they released
The krypto fr enduro/soft - xynotal trail/endurance is my new go-to setup!
Key to life? Living. 😁
Thems keys to live!! 🔑
OEM Maxxis are they only ones that don't look gross to me. I liked when 27.5 plus tires came out and OEM Maxxis had that ignorant giant hot patch.
Yah man so much better then the ugly yellow 🤮
I’d maybe run the Kryptonal again if I can get a soft compound but lighter casing. Trail/endurance might be the worst tire I’ve ever run in the wet. My Schwalbe XCish tires are better in wet….
Yah I definitely wouldn’t run these in the wet unless they were the super soft compound
It’s not the compound. The endurance compound is stickier than max terra. Way better grip on rock and root when the compound matters and the tread doesn’t. Loose over hard is on the tread, I’m not sure which of the 3 thread patterns that conti sells that are for loose over hard, not sure if it’s the xontals or the argotals.
Argatol for loose , krypto for mixed and xynotal for hard pack. Their names are definitely weird haha
@@dustinbjohnsonright but is loose like loose loam or sand or is it loose over hard? Very different surfaces.
How'd you like the rear krypto?
Video update coming .. 🍻
@@dustinbjohnson Any update? I just picked up a Krypto enduro/soft front and am looking at picking up a Krypto trail/endurance rear thats on sale as well
@@Joseph-vv6nf having tried it yet. Loving the xynotal and having a hard time taking it off 😂
Continental needs to work on these model names....sounds like I am at the pharmacy, not buying tires.
maxxis is a over advertised joke, glad you're more open-minded.
Hell yeah man! Got one ride in on the new krypto soft. I really like it!
Hey DBJ & Utubers Where does CONTINENTAL Fall when it comes to Size widths ???🫤🧐🤨 True to Size or ?. 🤔🤔