Diesel vs Gas Tow Off: The Legendary Chevy Suburban Takes on the Toyota Sequoia!

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  • ( www.tfltruck.com ) The all-new 2021 Chevy Silverado Diesel takes on the Toyota Sequoia V8 in an mpg loop tow off. Both tow a 7,000 lbs trailer and the results are better than expected.
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Komentáře • 640

  • @boskotanackovic5240
    @boskotanackovic5240 Před 3 lety +31

    I have a 1500 Silverado with 3.0 Dmax , absolutely love the truck!!! Average for a year hauling enclosed race car trailer , open car trailer and city driving, 21mpg @ 27k miles. Amazing 👏

    • @T_O_Negative
      @T_O_Negative Před 2 lety +2

      shit that's amazing 🤨🧐 my accord gets that 🤦🏾

    • @chrisd5383
      @chrisd5383 Před rokem

      Any issues on the LM2?

  • @RothBalloon
    @RothBalloon Před 3 lety +118

    That’s a huge difference in fuel economy. You can not just look at the numbers and say it’s close. Doing the math, the Suburban was 27.3% more efficient on that loop.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 Před 3 lety +10

      Or the Sequoia was 20% less efficient.

    • @RothBalloon
      @RothBalloon Před 3 lety +18

      @@andyharman3022 I’m sure the Suburban/Tahoe can be had with the diesel or gas engine for cheaper. The difference in assumed unreliability will be offset by the comparatively high cost of fuel owning the Sequoia. I get your point though, you’re gonna pay somewhere. So buy what you like and enjoy it.

    • @Jaimeleon20
      @Jaimeleon20 Před 3 lety +24

      The sequoia has 104 hp more and 59Lbft torq less
      5.7 and 6 speed is also tried and true since 2007
      I’d take the sequoia over suburban

    • @MrJcjet
      @MrJcjet Před 3 lety +20

      The suburban engine has to be pulled at 150k for the oil pump belt replacement. Ouch. Better get a LOT of fuel savings to pay for the $3k + belt replacement every 150k plus all of the diesel maintenance and repairs. GM had a great design and basically ruined it with the oil pump belt that requires the engine out or the transmission dropped to replace. I'm actually kinda surprised how close the mpg is given how old the Sequoia is.

    • @TXBlackKnight88
      @TXBlackKnight88 Před 3 lety +15

      Diesel fuel is also another 10-15% higher in price than regular gas. Once you include the Diesel engine upgrade costs, DEF consumption, & other increased consumable costs small displacement diesels are hard to overcome the perceived “cost savings."

  • @atvseatexchange2176
    @atvseatexchange2176 Před 3 lety +62

    Smirnoff Topoff, Andre you know that would be a tee shirt logo.

  • @ryanrobertson5457
    @ryanrobertson5457 Před 3 lety +13

    As the owner of a 3.0L Duramax, the hand calculated MPG is always better than the trip computer. Always a nice surprise when you do the math. 🙂

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 Před 3 lety +26

    I was betting ( and hoping ) that the Suburban / Duramax would be the winner here.
    Thumbs up!

  • @jameskwak3198
    @jameskwak3198 Před 3 lety +8

    rented a suburban on vacation and loved it was hands down the smoothest riding vehicle ive ever ridden in found myself blasting over speed bumps trying to unsettle the suspension but just soaked it up im a fan to say the least

    • @sothickitssickk
      @sothickitssickk Před 3 lety

      Asian.

    • @jeepindave5464
      @jeepindave5464 Před 3 lety

      The new independent suspension or the older solid rear axle?

    • @jameskwak3198
      @jameskwak3198 Před 3 lety

      @@jeepindave5464 was in 2019 and it was brand new so not sure but probably had solid rear axle but man they did there homework with it had 8 people in it rode nice empty.or.loaded made my 2015 high country silverado feel like a clapped out p.o.s. gonna buy one when im done with my truck

    • @jeepindave5464
      @jeepindave5464 Před 3 lety

      @@jameskwak3198 lol. Well a truck will be a truck. I want an expedition max with the ecoboost

    • @jameskwak3198
      @jameskwak3198 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jeepindave5464 rented one of those on a trip in california had great power decent mileage was comfortable as well but comparing last generations the suburbans ride was amazing..power and mileage wise my 6.2 silverado accelerates better and gets better mileqge than both of them.

  • @alanburleigh7696
    @alanburleigh7696 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you for using the weight distributing hitch on the Suburban with air suspension. So many people out there think because they have an air suspension it's not needed

    • @TheJmatagi
      @TheJmatagi Před 3 lety +1

      I have been wondering about how that is done. Usually put my distribution bars on before weight. It looks like they do it after how does that work out? Wouldn’t the distribution bars have little to no weight on them?

    • @jboyle96
      @jboyle96 Před 3 lety

      I have 2021 Silverado with the 3.0 and pull a 20' enclosed trailer. I don't necessarily need the weight distribution for my setup but the sway control is a huge help. His hitch, and mine, have the bars supported by brackets and not chains which is amazing for keeping the trailer straight.

    • @geoffmooregm
      @geoffmooregm Před 3 lety

      @@TheJmatagi You go by the fender height on the front. If you have the bars set right the front should be at the same ride height unloaded vs loaded. Once you know where you like to be then you hook up the same each time. On my trailer I know on my bars it's 3 links loose with no fresh water. 4 links loose with water.

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 Před 3 lety +15

    Wish Andre had made even a brief comment in the power department of these substantially different engines, specifically in terms of highway merging effort, passing ease, etc.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 Před 3 lety +2

      I have a Tundra now for 6 months. I tow a 5000 lb RV and the 5.7 is no dog. It can get up and go pretty quick in TOW HAUL MODE and it is better on fuel than towing with my Tacoma i used to have.

    • @brianfinn7644
      @brianfinn7644 Před 3 lety

      In terms of towing the Tundra should be better towing but overall mpgs no way. I hate my 2020 Tacoma but it gets 22mpgs. My Tundra never beat 18 and averaged 16.5. My new Ford is fine. I miss the v8 growl and the get up but here in the people’s republic of Ca they are hoping for $4.50 gas soon....

    • @Hemidakota
      @Hemidakota Před rokem

      @@brianfinn7644 why I went to the Ram Ecodiesel vice Tundra or the Tacoma. MPG and tow in Cali.

  • @hcrffi
    @hcrffi Před 3 lety +9

    Next time, can you guys do the comparison test of Chevy Suburban Gas vs Chevy Suburban Diesel?! Makes more sense.

  • @themightymrpink
    @themightymrpink Před 3 lety +14

    Thank you for uploading a real world towing test with both of these trucks! I’d be down to seeing y’all test the Suburban diesel on the Ike Gauntlet!

  • @dh-dd6cy
    @dh-dd6cy Před 3 lety +15

    It used to be diesels were much more reliable than gas motors. But I'd bet good money on that Toyota V8 lasting longer than that Italian I6 diesel now.

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s Před rokem

      Emissions are doing diesel like the caa did to gas in 1970.

  • @gregdavis3723
    @gregdavis3723 Před 3 lety +18

    Andre, do the same test with your new F-150 hybrid and see how it does.

  • @ryanhessler8966
    @ryanhessler8966 Před 3 lety +2

    The truck you pointed to at 9:36 with the grader, I've loaded him with bridges several times. Awesome guy

    • @nicholashosslogan3444
      @nicholashosslogan3444 Před 3 lety +2

      Also that semi with grader is probably getting 4 to 6mpg at best andre, hence why us truck drivers have dual tanks that cost $700.000 + to fill-up

  • @firebry23
    @firebry23 Před 3 lety +11

    You need to do a longer loop atleast 100 miles

  • @TowPiglet
    @TowPiglet Před 3 lety +40

    80 grand for the suburban 😱

    • @dotheroar2524
      @dotheroar2524 Před 3 lety

      Facts

    • @dotheroar2524
      @dotheroar2524 Před 3 lety +10

      I’d just get the Denali at that price

    • @agent_bedrock5844
      @agent_bedrock5844 Před 3 lety +4

      Remember two piglet, you can get a suburban for a much more reasonable price

    • @private6549
      @private6549 Před 3 lety +4

      For that particular trim and options, yes. A lower end model is around 59 grand or under for the diesel one which isn't all that expensive for a full-sized body on frame SUV. If you don't like that there is the Tahoe for about 5k less starting price albeit shorter and less cargo room but still plenty roomy. The Sequoia is only cheaper newer because it is made cheaper and is heavily outdated.

    • @Z2357111319
      @Z2357111319 Před 3 lety +4

      Sure, but its resale after you put 100K on it is going to be high, go look at 5 year old ones with 100K and they go for almost $30K, it's still a good price for what you are getting and also keep in mind the age of the cheap vehicle is over.

  • @chrisdemas8246
    @chrisdemas8246 Před 3 lety +6

    That diesel gets the same mpg towing that trailer as my 04 Tahoe gets empty!

  • @HoneyBadgerFarm
    @HoneyBadgerFarm Před 3 lety +17

    the sequoia just looks uncomfortable towing that much weight

    • @greatone2327
      @greatone2327 Před 3 lety +2

      How

    • @eazy1144
      @eazy1144 Před 3 lety +6

      @@greatone2327 look at how much it squatted when they put the trailer on. The Chevy didn’t squat at all due to the Air Suspension.

    • @csh000
      @csh000 Před 3 lety

      1200 lbs payload will do that.
      Just imagine taking the wife and kids while towing. 😬

    • @jeffzaharis3771
      @jeffzaharis3771 Před 3 lety

      Sequioa platinum has adjustable air suspension too

    • @eazy1144
      @eazy1144 Před 3 lety

      @@jeffzaharis3771 well, their system must be shitty in comparison to Chevy’s. An SUV with Air suspension shouldn’t squat that much.

  • @brandonpittman5243
    @brandonpittman5243 Před 3 lety +4

    These vehicle prices are through the roof

  • @joshuarodrique2096
    @joshuarodrique2096 Před 3 lety +10

    Look at 5:21 and 10:14
    That should tell you everything you need to know. The Suburban has no squat, and is in near perfect alignment, but the Sequoia is squatted and bowed out like an overloaded minivan.

    • @MrJcjet
      @MrJcjet Před 3 lety +5

      They didn't use comparable models. They had the air suspension suburban but not the air suspension on the Sequoia (it's available). With the air suspension Sequoia it's identical. So if you think that tells you anything, you're not really paying attention.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +3

      Yet, the Sequioa will outperform and outlast that shitty gm jalopy.

    • @csh000
      @csh000 Před 3 lety

      Not true. Minivans have higher payload ratings. 😄

    • @MrOiram46
      @MrOiram46 Před rokem

      @@csh000 Nah, minivans can only tow from 3,600 lbs to 5,000lbs at most, they’re great for giving more people rides, but if you want to tow more with a van, you’ll need a full-size/cargo van.

  • @davidrichardson6749
    @davidrichardson6749 Před 3 lety +64

    Aren’t full-size Toyota trucks and suvs of the last 15 or so years known to get the worst gas mileage around? That’s fine if they’re simple, old school and reliable.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +13

      If you can afford the Sequioa, you can afford the petrol.

    • @dennissmith7214
      @dennissmith7214 Před 3 lety +6

      @@youarerightboss Not actually true😒, if you’re someone who’s just trying to get into a step above what you could really be in then you want to take into account gas mileage..........and that’s 20% worse than the Chevy, counts a lot when you have kids. This is not a Lamborghini purchase where you can say that phrase! 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @Tylnorton
      @Tylnorton Před 3 lety +5

      Yes and Toyota plans on doing something about it because they're not happy their larger SUVs and Tundra are being outperformed by other manufacturers with their low mpg. They plan on making a V6 twin turbo hybrid that they have supposedly been working on for quite some time and they expect big numbers.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +2

      @@dennissmith7214, shouldn't live beyond your means. Prior to purchasing any entity, you should perform your due diligence by reviewing your monthly income statement and attempt to remain in the black with residual cash on hand at the conclusion of each month. If you need capacity and can't afford all facets of owning a new vehicle, then buy used.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +9

      @@Tylnorton, a twin turbo V-6 or any turbocharged engine will add more stress to said engine and shorten the life of that applicable engine. Not to mention the exorbitant expenses of repairing turbos and their stressed engines. Just look at all of the issues that Ford is having with their Ecoboost powerplants. Give me a V-8 any day of the annum for sound power/torque, reliability, durability and longevity.
      There's no replacement for displacement.

  • @nxtgen2b416
    @nxtgen2b416 Před 3 lety +3

    It's a shame Toyota doesn't offer their diesel options in North America!

  • @adventuresinreality2645
    @adventuresinreality2645 Před 3 lety +36

    14 mpgs---- that's what my excursion gets on the hwy empty
    😀 LOL

    • @JW--dc8ri
      @JW--dc8ri Před 3 lety +8

      Do you have the diesel or v10 gas?

    • @Saint-Bedo
      @Saint-Bedo Před 3 lety +4

      @@JW--dc8ri asking the real question

    • @adventuresinreality2645
      @adventuresinreality2645 Před 3 lety +4

      @@JW--dc8ri v10. Way less expensive for everything but fuel economy.

    • @michaelstringer1840
      @michaelstringer1840 Před 3 lety +1

      That's what I believe my international scout gets but down hill.....costing with a good breeze but it's about smiles per gallons or what I tell myself.

    • @WhoThisGuy515
      @WhoThisGuy515 Před 3 lety +2

      @@adventuresinreality2645 i also got 14 mpg with my v10 excursion unloaded at 65. Put an empty 2500# car trailer behind it and got 13mpg at 65. them put about 9700# behind it and got 8mpg on the way back doing 55-60 which to me seemed pretty good.

  • @joro353
    @joro353 Před 3 lety +3

    Diesel always wins. It's not even up for debate. Diesel likes towing. Try claiming a mountain with these two and see what happens... vortex in the gas tank.

  • @machfive916
    @machfive916 Před 3 lety +1

    Very good mileage on the Toyota, especially with 4.30 gears. I just towed a 5400 lb/26' Micro Lite travel trailer for 175 miles on flat land (Louisiana) on interstate 10 at 63 MPH and got 9.3 MPG with a 2020 Silverado 1500 4x4 crew cab with max trailering package, 5.3 L V-8 and 3.42 gears.

    • @remsterx
      @remsterx Před 3 lety +1

      Not bad. I got 16.2 mpg when I moved across country in december with my 15 ram ecodiesel with 3.92 gears. I had 600 lbs in the bed and was towing 7000lbs.

    • @dennistraynor6077
      @dennistraynor6077 Před 3 lety

      I get 9.5 to 10 towing the same trailer (MiniLite 2511) at 63 mph with my 6.2L Yukon Denali

  • @JeremyGSU2011
    @JeremyGSU2011 Před 3 lety +6

    It would be interesting to see this comparison with a 5.3 Suburban. Most people aren’t going to buy the diesel version. My guess is that gas mileage is going to be a lot closer.

    • @lancecorporal9894
      @lancecorporal9894 Před 4 měsíci

      I own one and no the mileage is nowhere near 14mpg. I tow a 4500 trailer at 60 and get around 12mpg

  • @TheMrSnarf
    @TheMrSnarf Před 3 lety +5

    I love it when Andre does jokes! His face just kicks it home!!!

  • @redman3741
    @redman3741 Před 3 lety +2

    That was a very good comparison video. Keep up the good work Andre and TFL!

  • @samiaziz2665
    @samiaziz2665 Před 3 lety +3

    This suburban is the King Baby . Best Large SUV for the pasts 87 years and hope to make it to 100 years befor GM goes electric

  • @79BigGun
    @79BigGun Před 3 lety +7

    TFL ... love you guys ... but Please! Compare Apples to Apples. Sequoia vs gas Tahoe or Yukon - ok, we have something to compare. I didn’t even need to watch this video to know there’d be a considerable amount of difference between the two. I’m always interested to generally watch auto videos, but if folks are trying to see where they should consider or purchase this or that, then I feel the vehicles should match. No different then you comparing towing capes of that Taco vs let’s say a gas or diesel 1500 series truck. Just my 2 cents.

    • @tylerwalk7699
      @tylerwalk7699 Před 3 lety +2

      So what is there to test against the Tahoe diesel? Nothing, because nothing else has a diesel.

    • @monkeyCmonkeyDoo
      @monkeyCmonkeyDoo Před 3 lety

      @@tylerwalk7699 maybe a gas powered Suburban? Are you dense or what?

    • @tylerwalk7699
      @tylerwalk7699 Před 3 lety +1

      @@monkeyCmonkeyDoo no, not at all. There’s nothing to compare the diesel Tahoe and GM SUV’s to. Other than half ton diesel trucks. Yes I do believe gas vs gas in this circumstance is more appropriate, but it would be kind of silly to not showcase the diesel at all.

    • @79BigGun
      @79BigGun Před 3 lety +1

      @@gary4508 I can appreciate they are in the same class for third row, box on frame SUVs, but there are significant and obvious differences. The car maker (Chevrolet) even segregates the categories - hence why they label one a Tahoe and the other Suburban. I can only see this as a means to showcase the “Legendary” diesel Suburban and its capabilities. For a model that hasn’t been altered much since 2008 (Sequoia), I’m surprised they reserved the title of “Legendary” for the Suburban and not the Sequoia. Hmmmm, I wonder what the community feels the Suburban is “Legendary” for?

    • @samiaziz2665
      @samiaziz2665 Před 3 lety +2

      @@79BigGun oldest name plate in the world baby. The King of the Large SUV’s it’s first year was in 1933 that’s why it’s legendary. Every family that had one in our neighborhood in the suburbs of chicago lovey their suburban.
      All the family trips camping and fishing. Man the good old days

  • @kyleinman8017
    @kyleinman8017 Před 3 lety +9

    If he only knew the trailer jack handle locks together so you can crank quickly with one hand....

    • @jameskwak3198
      @jameskwak3198 Před 3 lety +3

      well us truckers are aware fun to watch the inexperienced though!

  • @Borp56
    @Borp56 Před 3 lety +4

    The Sequoia looks like it's from North Carolina with that sag lol.

  • @Hemidakota
    @Hemidakota Před rokem +1

    Considering the weight factor is on the Chevy versus Toyota, no surprise. Whether it is a 4x4 or 4x2 is another huge difference in the MPG factor. The correct comparison would have been a Tahoe versus Sequoia. However, this was an eye opener in seeing the results. Excellent video.

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +2

    Andre and the gang, thank You for the aforementioned comparable.

  • @DadsDomain
    @DadsDomain Před 3 lety +1

    I have a Sequoia and a Tundra both with the 5.7. Similar drivetrain but the rear axles are diff. Tundra solid axle and the Sequoia is independent for a better ride. BUT the Sequoia only holds about 1.5 quarts of diff fluid where the Tundra holds over 4. If you tow a lot with the Sequoia be sure to keep up on changing your fluid. Toyota makes it super easy, fill and a drain plug. No reason to pay for it to be done

  • @jameybeem8261
    @jameybeem8261 Před 3 lety +8

    How did they compare seat of the pants power wise? I love these very usable tests!

  • @cummins12valve57
    @cummins12valve57 Před 3 lety +7

    Toyota needs some updates for sure. The antique gauges and transmission... wow

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +8

      If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    • @tsd560ti6
      @tsd560ti6 Před 3 lety

      @@youarerightboss Thats why other manufacturers update it on a yearly basis?
      -Just kiddin' :D

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +2

      @@tsd560ti6, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    • @mikefoehr235
      @mikefoehr235 Před 3 lety +2

      GM updates so often that nothing lasts. Toyota gets it right and goes with it. GM and FORD are like companies with new software....loaded with bugs.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety

      @@mikefoehr235, spot on!

  • @canucktheory3271
    @canucktheory3271 Před 3 lety +8

    That Sequoia looks a decade older than the new Chevy twins.

  • @yatesuser86
    @yatesuser86 Před 3 lety +4

    I would pull that trailer around empty just to show it off. That is one nice stinking trailer.

  • @pauliecopez2683
    @pauliecopez2683 Před 3 lety +4

    I wonder if the 3mpg difference would offset the added diesel maintenance.

    • @arbiter1
      @arbiter1 Před 3 lety +4

      3 to as much as 10. you likely aren't gonna be towing a 7k trailer all day every day.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk Před 3 lety

      I barely get 23 mpg out of my 3.0 duramax.

    • @OneNation_SpeakTruth
      @OneNation_SpeakTruth Před 3 lety

      Plus def

    • @Dekkar4
      @Dekkar4 Před 3 lety

      @@ryan7684 there two types of HD diesel guys, 1. That tows and the other to make a statement, when you tow, you can’t have it any other way besides diesel, and when you make a statement, not only you save money on fuel, but you’ll also get your money back when you sell it.

    • @Dekkar4
      @Dekkar4 Před 3 lety

      @@ryan7684 I agree that a lot off fleets are switching to gas, and most were gassers anyway. The problem with new ones is emissions, but again, when you tow 15K+ day in and day out, you gonna get a diesel.
      06 LBZ with around 200k miles, worth about 8k more then 6.0 gasser with same miles, that’s when you take advantage of a diesel and return your money when you sell it.

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 Před 3 lety +27

    The Sequoia also needs the 38 gallon tank.

    • @DaddyDan77
      @DaddyDan77 Před 3 lety +4

      yup that was part of the real story here. I had a 2nd gen Highlander and it's 18 gallon tank was dinky IMHO. Giving only 8 additional gallons of fuel capacity is silly.
      But then I'm someone who thinks the "extended range" tanks available on most pickup trucks ought to be the standard size tank.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +5

      The Sequioa will last decades, while the gm will be scrap metal and razor blades.

    • @cesarquezada925
      @cesarquezada925 Před 3 lety +1

      I seen someone trying to do that but it will need a Lift of 2.5 inch and widen the rear by 1.6 inch to accommodate that tank I really don’t know if that’s accurate but tell if I’m wrong about this

    • @logdon17
      @logdon17 Před 3 lety

      And and all new interior, exterior, and drive-train.....

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety

      @@logdon17, the aforementioned drivetrain is tried and true, along with being bulletproof. An 8 speed transmission would yield a nominal increase in MPG, though. If they took the interior of the Land Cruiser and integrated it into the Sequioa, that would be ideal. I do like the masculine exterior of the Sequioa, though. It should look utilitarian instead of like a soccer mom vehicle.

  • @wcslv_6781
    @wcslv_6781 Před 3 lety +7

    Looks like the Toyota is really squatting in the rear.

  • @theinternets7516
    @theinternets7516 Před 3 lety +3

    This Suburban gets the same mpg towing 7,000 pounds as my 2011 navigator averages with about 75% highway driving.

  • @suttonssuperstars7679
    @suttonssuperstars7679 Před 3 lety +3

    Andre’s Toyota intro reminded me of Gru from despicable me.

  • @chevyjaime4763
    @chevyjaime4763 Před 3 lety +3

    Did I see correct? Toyota still has a gas cap? Holy cow! Overall i do like their philosophy, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Too bad they are being left behind by all the competition when it comes to innovation, tech, ect...

  • @jimhenry7173
    @jimhenry7173 Před 3 lety +1

    I have currently a 2014 Acura RDX.
    I never get better than 21 to 22 mpg in Houston traffic.
    On a trip to Austin ,best I got was 28 mpg.at 75mph.
    The Denali diesel,a much bigger vehicle gets better Mpg.

  • @dustintunis9347
    @dustintunis9347 Před 3 lety

    Andre - The handle of the trailer slides around the shaft so you don't have to hold the bend in it to crank it. You might have to hold the shaft to keep from putting it in low speed of it has 2 speeds like a semi trailer landing gear.

  • @candykid5135
    @candykid5135 Před 3 lety +2

    regarding towing, both are equally powerful

  • @111danish111
    @111danish111 Před 3 lety +1

    Did not realize the Sequoia has an Independent Rear Suspension.

    • @jeffzaharis3771
      @jeffzaharis3771 Před 3 lety +2

      The platinum also has adjustable air suspension

  • @jarotex
    @jarotex Před 3 lety +1

    Of course. Duramax magic baby!

  • @hidros1461
    @hidros1461 Před 3 lety +5

    You put "Silverado" in the description btw.

  • @lordofwar9638
    @lordofwar9638 Před 3 lety +2

    The big V8 Duramax is laughing at this test 😂

    • @gogofastful
      @gogofastful Před 3 lety

      And is also ashamed of its mileage.

    • @lordofwar9638
      @lordofwar9638 Před 3 lety

      @@gogofastful
      Nobody gets a V8 for MPGs.
      If you tow a lot it’s not even a concern. At over 900 lb ft of torque I wouldn’t care about the MPGs.

  • @vinnyduncan3342
    @vinnyduncan3342 Před 3 lety +9

    I expected the Sequoia to be a little worse and the diesel Burb to be a little better. Still a solid victory for the Chevy.

  • @SwannBus
    @SwannBus Před 3 lety +4

    I’m interested in how the suburban performs. Standing by for a performance, drivability, livability test...

  • @ROBinJVILLE
    @ROBinJVILLE Před 3 lety +5

    14 mpg while towing is impressive.

  • @Murph121985
    @Murph121985 Před 3 lety +1

    Today on TFL, let’s compare apples to oranges...........should have run a gas suburban to compare to the diesel.

  • @gilwolf7556
    @gilwolf7556 Před 3 lety +2

    Should we take in consideration the cost of DEF ?? Having a Tuareg TDI before I did see pretty substantial increase in DEF when towing.

    • @OneNation_SpeakTruth
      @OneNation_SpeakTruth Před 3 lety

      Exactly the comment I was looking for. DEF while loaded is going to reduce that mpg perhaps even by -1 mpg

    • @specialestness
      @specialestness Před rokem

      Before I bought my 3l Duramax I calculated the cost vs a gasser. I guesstimated based off previous diesel vehicle ownership that I’d use $28 or so worth of def every 4,000 miles. When I calculated it out I figured how far I could go on $100. I knew it was gonna be around 500 miles so I took $3.50 off for the def on the diesel. At current cost by me($4.24/gal) assuming I got 24 mpg(I actually avg. higher) I could go 546 miles. In my previous 5.3 I always averaged around 17.5 mpg and the newer generations have only gotten worse. So at the current $3.30 for regular, I could do 530 miles in the gasser. They’re very similar, but the diesel to me drives like an absolute dream.

  • @WoolyNips
    @WoolyNips Před 3 lety +1

    It’s very interesting to watch how the Gen Y hitch has lasted for the last couple of years

  • @decarloswilliams6099
    @decarloswilliams6099 Před 3 lety +1

    Love my Toyota’s, but that is good looking Suburban 🏎

  • @caleblee4856
    @caleblee4856 Před 3 lety +1

    Dang those both look amazing

  • @jrocu2
    @jrocu2 Před 3 lety +11

    Notice at only 66 miles the sequoia was almost at half a tank of fuel. Definitely not good multiple stops on a long trip.

    • @ATH_Berkshire
      @ATH_Berkshire Před 3 lety +4

      That must have been due to when that bit of video was shot. He said the Sequoia had a 26G tank and it only used 5.5 G.

    • @christophercollard8409
      @christophercollard8409 Před 3 lety +6

      The range may not be good on the sequoia but it will outlast that chevy by a long shot LOL.

    • @fj400007
      @fj400007 Před 3 lety +7

      @@christophercollard8409 Toyota are the worst. I had a 2007 FJCRUISER that was averaging the same as my 2014 F250 with 6.2 engine. Toyota engines are all anemic and are not designed to perform under load. Anybody that chooses that ugly outdated Sequoia over a Suburban is downright insane.

    • @pryme2013
      @pryme2013 Před 3 lety

      @@user-gx2bs1vq7w range due to a massive tank. Certainly not a small 26gal tank.

    • @MrJcjet
      @MrJcjet Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-gx2bs1vq7w at 11mpg a full tank would go 271 miles. That's pretty easy math. So you'd really be filling up about every 200 miles. Same as a powerstroke with the 26 gallon tank towing a travel trailer or an f150 with a 23 gallon tank. For towing duty a bigger tank would be better. A stop every 3 hours is pretty average, so I'm not sure it would be a big issue.

  • @Antares_451
    @Antares_451 Před 3 lety

    Side note. The Suburban air ride system is similar to my 2006 4runner v8 Ltd w/xreas. I towed a full size long bed Chevy 1500 with with my 4runner with no problems.

    • @djcordes4352
      @djcordes4352 Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve been towing a 25’1” boat for the last 9 years behind a 2007 V8 Limited. The 4.7 could definitely use more power!

  • @larryspiller15
    @larryspiller15 Před 3 lety +3

    Idk buddy, 25% better fuel economy does not seem pretty similar to me. That's quite large.

    • @PS-zw4yc
      @PS-zw4yc Před 3 lety

      11.2 to 14 is substantial. Like 33%

  • @donknicker8110
    @donknicker8110 Před 3 lety +2

    Would of been great to see another suburban gas engine to compare with the diesel

  • @theinternets7516
    @theinternets7516 Před 3 lety

    Maybe it's different for the suburban but in my navigator it states to park on level ground and turn off the air suspension before hooking up the weight distribution hitch. Hook it up to where the top of the front fender well is within an inch of where it is when there is no trailer hooked up and then turn the air suspension back on.

  • @rooster3019
    @rooster3019 Před 3 lety +1

    I "think" it would have been better is the Suburban had been engine off while trailer was set-up including weight distribution. Then turn it on and let it accomodate with the automated air suspension. That way, both vehicles get the same treatment and the Chevy gets to use its advantage, if any, from the option.

    • @courtneyanderson2293
      @courtneyanderson2293 Před 2 lety

      makes no difference. Once he started lowering the trailer the hitch height was already set. Whether the compressor kicks in while lowering trailer or after it was lowered doesn't affect anything.

  • @KeystoneTexan
    @KeystoneTexan Před 6 měsíci

    If I’m not mistaken, if that Sequoia is a platinum, it should have air ride also

  • @palaciosfam.5003
    @palaciosfam.5003 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you guys compare diesel suburban with the gas one?

  • @Boomheyyou
    @Boomheyyou Před 3 lety +12

    I would spend the money and get the suburban

    • @christophercollard8409
      @christophercollard8409 Před 3 lety +3

      The toyota would outlast that modern chevy no contest though so what if you have to stop at a gas station more often ?

    • @pimpplayboy5727
      @pimpplayboy5727 Před 3 lety +5

      @@christophercollard8409 Thats a bunch of lies I've seen plenty of toyota trucks broken down

    • @arhamkhakwani5851
      @arhamkhakwani5851 Před 3 lety +2

      @@pimpplayboy5727 bru I have seen more chevys at the junkyard than Toyotas being serviced
      Even frickin the old top gear tried to kill off a Toyota truck yet they could not.

    • @pimpplayboy5727
      @pimpplayboy5727 Před 3 lety +2

      @@arhamkhakwani5851 Dude literally there is Classic Chevy trucks all over the place running perfectly
      While Toyotas all rusted out LOL

    • @pimpplayboy5727
      @pimpplayboy5727 Před 3 lety +1

      @@arhamkhakwani5851 Top gear is a fantasy show
      I could kill a Hilux very fast all you have to do is load the bed a little over max payload and the frame will snap in half LOL

  • @a.f.s.3004
    @a.f.s.3004 Před 3 lety +1

    Have 10k ready when that diesel needs work!

  • @halfglassfull
    @halfglassfull Před 2 lety +1

    Diesel was less than $3 now about a year or more later < $5. And in the spirit of honest reviews it would be helpful to show the video date stamp.

  • @coreyallen1090
    @coreyallen1090 Před 3 lety +1

    Another awesome video and comparison..... now, do the same test on the Rivian R1S..... when you get your hands on it, of course 😜

  • @MadManMachines
    @MadManMachines Před 3 lety

    Where i live diesel costs about 30-40 cents more per gallon, then ad in the cost of def and these two vehicles are costing about the same per mile to operate.

  • @keananfischer8113
    @keananfischer8113 Před 3 lety +2

    No empty loop for the sequoia? I keep waiting for you guys to test the 2021 sequoia and tundra on unloaded mpg loops. Any info I find usually dont help because everyone has huge wheels or jacked up trucks they record.

    • @JeremyGSU2011
      @JeremyGSU2011 Před 3 lety

      I had a ‘16 Crewmax SR5 4x4 Tundra for several years. If you cruised on the highway at 80 you would get about 16mpg.
      75 = 17
      70 = 18
      I had an ‘11 Crewmax 2wd before that. It would bet you about 1mpg better.
      This was in the Southeast. Florida/Georgia driving.

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP Před 3 lety +2

    Dang that was closer than I thought. I kinda anticipated the burb getting nearer to 17-18mpg on that loop.

  • @bigslacker666
    @bigslacker666 Před 3 lety +3

    The sag on that sequoia.... Needs bags if it's gonna be a tow pig. Actually not bad MPG for the old 5.7, but the range wouldn't be great at all.

    • @elonsus9747
      @elonsus9747 Před 3 lety +1

      All the Sequoias I see sag, without loads let alone a trailer.

    • @bigslacker666
      @bigslacker666 Před 3 lety

      @@user-gx2bs1vq7w Not quite half but yeah looking at under 200 miles/tank is just awful on a road trip.

    • @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
      @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Před 3 lety

      @@elonsus9747 alot of these suvs with independent suspension do this. I think they purpose dial in more negative camber for better handling, same thing BMW used to do back in the day. Looks crappy to me though. I cant stand that negative camber.

  • @gransport4246
    @gransport4246 Před 3 lety +1

    4.30 rear end and 6 spd auto isn’t for fuel economy. Not rocket science that sequoia is bad. Also both Toyota and Chevy require a weight distributing hitch for anything over 5,000 lbs.

  • @normt430
    @normt430 Před 3 lety

    The Chevrolet Tahoe and Suburban, the GMC Yukon and Yukon XL, and the Cadillac Escalade account for 50% of all large SUV sales in the US. GM makes 340,000 of them every year and exports about 80,000 to 31 countries. They’re made in GM’s plant in Arlington, Texas, which is said to be the most profitable assembly plant in the world. We estimate they generate $20 billion in revenue for GM and about $4 billion in profits. Autoline Daily.

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 Před 3 lety +2

    Not sure you can call the Sequoia one of the “latest” SUV’s... it’s been around in its current iteration forever... pretty sure the Suburban/Tahoe have been through two redesigns since the current Sequoia debuted...

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety +1

      If it ain't broke don't fix it.

    • @phantom0456
      @phantom0456 Před 3 lety

      @@youarerightboss perhaps... but that also partially explains why the Sequoia/Tundra’s market share is miniscule compared to the Silverado/Tahoe/Expedition/F-150 etc... Toyota may be able to rest on their laurels with the 4 Runner and (especially) Tacoma, which are underpowered and undergeared relative to their competition, but they’ve got a great foothold in those segments... if they really want to take on the Big Three in full size truck and SUV sales, they’re going to have to do much better than their current offerings.

    • @iggy-pg6gq
      @iggy-pg6gq Před 3 lety

      @@youarerightboss people dont buy it either.....

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety

      @@iggy-pg6gq, my person just purchased a 2021 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro Super White two days ago. So, yes, people do buy them and they last forever.

    • @iggy-pg6gq
      @iggy-pg6gq Před 3 lety

      @@youarerightboss well. My tundra begs to differ..... was in the shop at 6000km..... and not the last time either

  • @djp1234
    @djp1234 Před 3 lety

    Can't wait for the Jeep ECODIESEL vs 4xe test.

  • @Adiscretefirm
    @Adiscretefirm Před 3 lety +1

    You guys have some cheap diesel out in Colorado!

  • @LukeEdward
    @LukeEdward Před 3 lety +2

    Been waiting A WHILE to see this.

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you explain your towing weight numbers? You said 7k, but that truck in stock form weighs 3,300 lbs. That trailer should be around 2k-2.2k.
    I'm sure there are some mods to the truck, but probably not 1,700 lbs. worth.

  • @supreme2005
    @supreme2005 Před 2 lety

    The Sequoia rear suspension is not happy about having that trailer attached

  • @korndawggy1801
    @korndawggy1801 Před 3 lety +3

    I'll wait a while to see if there's some bugs to work out of the new engine and transmission on the Chevy.

    • @DanielJaegerFilms
      @DanielJaegerFilms Před 3 lety +2

      There are definitely a lot of engine and electrical bugs. I work in rental fleet and these new body styles are plagued with issues unfortunately. Wait a couple years and let GM straighten it out.

    • @danichicago9140
      @danichicago9140 Před 3 lety +2

      You will be waiting awhile.

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss Před 3 lety

      Smart man.

    • @samiaziz2665
      @samiaziz2665 Před 3 lety

      @@DanielJaegerFilms I been wanting to rent these new 2021 suburban , but I could not find a rental company that had them. Which one do you work at that has these new 2021 suburbans

    • @DanielJaegerFilms
      @DanielJaegerFilms Před 3 lety

      @@samiaziz2665 Enterprise, National, Alamo and Hertz have them as far as I know. Keep in mind there’s no guarantee they’ll have that actual vehicle at their location. However, if you rent from an airport location, there’s a good chance you’ll find them.

  • @dennissmith7214
    @dennissmith7214 Před 3 lety +6

    A little bit better😳..........that’s like 20% better, that’s more than a little bit! 😒🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @russellmoore6705
    @russellmoore6705 Před rokem

    Curious if GM is going to change to the LZ0 new 3.0 duramax in the Yukon, Tahoe and Escalade like they did in the Silverado and the sierra that’s now 305 hp and 495 ftlbs instead of this one with 277 hp and 460 ftlbs

  • @simonadventum
    @simonadventum Před 3 lety +3

    The difference was 1.2 Gal, so about $3

    • @GarcBomber
      @GarcBomber Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, let’s not factor in DEF and the absurd amount of PMs and huge costs associated with repairing a diesel. Plus the fact that Toyota’s 5.7 gas powertrain is severely dated.

    • @arbiter1
      @arbiter1 Před 3 lety +3

      @@GarcBomber outta 2-3 gallons of def, the chevy will get how many 1000's of miles for a 10-15$ jug? Lets not use that as an excuse like as always.

  • @mikeb6386
    @mikeb6386 Před 3 lety +2

    Doesn't diesel fuel have more BTU per gallon like 20%. Then is it worth 20k more to have that little diesel engine that needs an expensive timing belt replacement at 150k? The maintenance cost is more on the diesel too so u have to factor that in along with the DEF fluid u have to put in the diesel these days. I like the diesel but u have to factor in that its a much more complicated engine that most mechanics won't be able to work on or even service.

    • @brianfinn7644
      @brianfinn7644 Před 3 lety

      You know we won’t know about maintenance till one hits 150k. The wet belt had melted down parts of the internet. It appears GM went backwards in the design but I’m not an engineer. The diesel maintenance debate is also interesting. Throw in Def and people are melting down over 1k in differences. Toyota has cheapened things there is no denying it... does in equal out with mpgs vs relatability? That’s the question. Toyota parts are also expensive so can boys melt down now too. I’m wallet loyal. Toyota lost me when my commute became 88 miles. I can’t stand the you don’t buy a truck for mpg argument either. It’s so damn expensive to keep a truck on the road in my hell hole state. If you want expensive lower mpgs but with more reliability go with Yota.

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 Před 3 lety +2

    Will TFL test those 2 rigs on the same loop without traylers? I wonder how EPA fuel economy match the real world.

    • @Jv19979
      @Jv19979 Před 3 lety

      Epa test vehicles at 40-50 mph on flat roads.

    • @nevco8774
      @nevco8774 Před 3 lety

      @@Jv19979 That was not the point. TFL produces real world tests.

    • @Jv19979
      @Jv19979 Před 3 lety +1

      @@nevco8774 I know I'm just saying EPA does the mpg test at 40-50 mph. TFL is the only people on youtube that does good test.

  • @seanfenwick
    @seanfenwick Před 3 lety

    Thanks Andre.

  • @mts982
    @mts982 Před 3 lety +2

    14.04 mpg.

  • @kcspeed9980
    @kcspeed9980 Před 3 lety

    Hey, you guys should do a tow test comparing the 4Runner to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. There doesn’t seem to be a tow test for the 4Runner on your channel and when researching for our next family weekend car they were the two that we were deciding between. Went with 4Runner

    • @kcspeed9980
      @kcspeed9980 Před 3 lety

      Excellent video as usual, forgot to add that

  • @HyperXism
    @HyperXism Před 3 lety +1

    Love these comparisons!

  • @06colkurtz
    @06colkurtz Před 3 lety +2

    11+ is great. My Ram would not deliver that. Air suspension is great for the first three years. 😇

  • @talonpilot
    @talonpilot Před měsícem

    11.2 for the Toyota, 14.0 for the Chevy

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579

    Go Suburban diesel. Looks like a much better vehicle than the Sequoia. Yes, it's about $20k more expensive so it should be. Even so, if I were to be shopping these 2 I'd get the diesel.

  • @MistrZIGZAG
    @MistrZIGZAG Před 3 lety

    That sequoia has so much squat that the wheels have like 15 degrees of negative camber.

  • @Malc664
    @Malc664 Před 3 lety

    Nice video Andre. You know you have to test your new F150 now right.

  • @keeangravatt
    @keeangravatt Před 3 lety

    I still think they should do a vid on the new uramax Suburban vs an old powerstroke Excursion. See if its worth the money, or if you'd be better off with the old Excursion, with some modification money.

  • @theonlydarts
    @theonlydarts Před 3 lety +1

    I get about 10mpg towing with my 1998 expedition... I can buy a LOT of gas for $80k. No more math necessary.

    • @Mereshot101
      @Mereshot101 Před 2 lety

      Ha right my 99 dually gets 10 and did not cost anywhere near 68k or 80k