IRON WILL BROADHEAD BATTLE: 100 Gr Solid Double Bevel vs Single Bevel--2 of the Best in 2022.
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- This is a Broadhead Battle of the Iron Will Solid 100 gr Double Bevel vs Single Bevel. For the best way to sharpen, see this vid: • Iron Will Single bevel... and also this vid
• Iron Will sharpness te...
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of each head as well. (DB scores listed first, then SB scores)
Iron Will Solid Double Bevel, 100 gr Score: 87.98 = 9 Golden Arrows
Iron Will Solid Single Bevel, 100 gr Score: 88.88 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts each)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16.
2. Cut Size (20%, 13.14 pts each)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.813" = 5.08pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.813" = 5.08 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.063" = 2.98 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 17.85, 18.25, pts)
Initial sharpness (9%: 150 grs=10/10=9 pts; 125 grs=10/10=9pts ) & Edge Retention (9%: +75 grs=8.5/10=7.65pts +125 grs=8.5/10=7.65 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. 5/10=1 pt; 6/10=1.2 pts & 8/10 = 1.6 pts)
4. Penetration (20%: 18.24 pts each)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (7.5"=7.5 pts each)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(68 layers=8.74 pts each)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts each)
5. Durability (20%, 19.75 pts each)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts each)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (4.75 pts each)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (3 pts each)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: DB & SB: +1 extra sharp blades
+1 extra thick blades (.062")
+1 extra forgiving flight
BONUS: SB: +.5 rotation in gel (15 degrees at 10.5")
Total DB Score: 87.98 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Total SB Score: 88.88 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Price : $36.65/head
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Another OUTSATNDING test from the best in the business!!!!! Thanks John Lusk for what you do for archery and more importantly, the human race.
Thank you brother :)
Shot both of these heads and they are absolutely amazing in all categories! I've tested them out to 75 yards with no adjustment whatsoever! I'll note the Customer Service is great too! The 1st buck I shot with the double bevel was quartered away hard. The shot entered the ribs and exited through the edge of the opposite side shoulder and then into a big rock. It flattened the tip just a hair (nothin I couldnt file out) but I used their email system and 4 days later I had a new replacement blade and screw in my mailbox! Customer Service top notch 👌
Good to hear. Thank you for sharing that.
As always, great job. I *really* like the addition of the sharpness tester phases. It takes a difficult and almost nebulous factor and makes it an objective, repeatable determination. Thanks for this test.
Thanks Ben.
Your comments about not feeling like you got jipped for what you payed for is exactly the way I felt the first time I opened my IW's up. Everything about them from the presentation to the design to the quality just screams Worth it!!. Nice video John.
Love the iron Wills!!! Shot the s100’s last year and up to the S150 wides for 2022
And yet Bishop heads come in cheap plastic.
@@aarongoeppner413 killed an elk and mule deer last year with the S150 heads. Have both standard and wide. Killed both animals with the standard size. They are amazing.
@@michaelvstheworld3680 yeah, honestly can’t justify spending that kind of money. I honestly can’t believe anyone buys that guys stuff. His website is cheap. Notification says please allow 8 weeks to fulfill “in stock” orders. So clearly isn’t spending money on hiring employees. Not sure where the money goes. Definitely not into the customer experience.
My hunting buddy Deano running the 200g single bevels this year. Everything from the design to the cryogenically tempered A2 steel is just on point (pun intended) personally I'm tempted by the 150g "Wides." I'd love them to come in a single bevel option but you can't have everything 😁
Your Videos are amazing… love the Honesty…this comparison is one I was so curious about. Thank You.
Thank you Terry.
Another excellent video. I just love all your videos so much
Thank you Roman.
I’m enjoying these videos, thanks! I’ll be using the single bevel in 125 gr for Cape Buffalo in September. I already settled on that head, but enjoyed your video.
Nice! Good luck.
The single bevel is calling my name. I will pull the trigger on the IW in a year or two, when they are really refined :) Thanks for the great test and good shooting as well - your 40-yard group was impressive.
Thank you.
Great video John! I was surprised the single bevel was sharper!
That surprised me as well. It may have just been that particular head. But I did do it a couple times.
Boy that steel and concrete test hurt to watch, glad you did it so the curiosity in me didn’t have to. Thanks for an awesome review!
:) Thank you
Well done John. Great video imho. Hope it's cooler where you are than down here in South Louisiana! Steady,
Thanks Dozier.
man thats some impressive broadheads. seems single bevel almost always barely beats out the double bevel!...thanks for some more awesome tests brother!
Yeah, they're both excellent.
I just ordered the double bevel 100gr because of your videos! Super pumped to get them! (Also ordered some black hornets just to have around).
Nice. Good luck.
Great videos don’t sugar coat the results of the heads and is straight to the point not a 35min video on each head. Nice videos keep em up my man!
Thank you
This gentleman has earned a subscriber.
Thank you. Hope you can check out my other tests as well-have over 200 :)
Bought myself a set of IW single bevel 125’s!
Didn’t have a chance to try them on animal yet, but they rock!!
Really sharp out of the box but got them crazy sharp with my staysharp guide!
Very good!
Fantastic test! Would love to see the vented flight vs solid flight.
I have a test of that here on my channel. They flew identically, at least within my margin of error. Just search on CZcams: LUSK IRON WILL and that vid should come up.
Your broadhead videos are spot on with great detail. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say, it would be great if you tested different arrows shafts in addition to broadheads. Just a thought.
Thank you. I've considered that, but it's a bit more involved than I'm able to devote time to at this point.
Serious quality right there 👍👍🇺🇸
Yep.
Love the iron wills. Won a pack for free off of rokslide, or I wouldn’t have convinced myself to buy them. After one season, I don’t see myself changing. Can see that they are worth every penny for the most important part of bowhunting.
Had a s125 double bevel go through a bucks shoulder quartering to me and come out the back ham, and still penetrate an inch into a log. Couldn’t even tell it had been shot after getting it out of the log!
Nice!
You’re basically the archery version of project farm, super knowledgeable
😊
I think it would be cool to get your top 3 heads for mechs, fixed, single, double,ect. I personally have only used the exodus. Big fan. Sevr would prob be the only mech i would use. But good to hear your opinions cause of the great tests
Thanks Jon. The scores are all listed at the end of each video, so it's easy to compare and find the best overall. But sometimes people want to focus on a specific test, like penetration or flight or durability, so the scoring of those tests are also listed in the vid description.
Yes!! great comparison. I've got the 125gn left single bevel. Let me tell ye. These broadheads make it all the way threw my target .. thinking of trying 150 gn broadheads. Nothing but Ironwills on the front of my Stix. Cheers
Nice.
John.. thanks for another great video.. what about a single bevel battle?
Thanks James. I like to reserve Battles for heads with the same specs...at least the same cut size. There aren't any I know of that have these same dimensions. But you can compare the scores of this head with others I've tested that are somewhat similar.
They look mostly even to me. The double bevel edged out the test in my opinion due to the concrete penetration test. You discounted that very impressive detail.
Yep...very even. Whether or not a head sticks into the concrete can be random. I've had the same head stick sometimes and not stick other times. So I don't reward a head for that.
Love these broad-heads! 125gr single bevel in my quiver for this fall buck and elk hunts.
Good choice.
Both are really great performers. I agree. If I have to choose a winner, I'd go with the single bevel for the rotation that helps break bone. I think it's worth noting how incredibly sharp these broadheads are straight out of the box. Even after the gel they are still more sharp than the average broadhead. In order to get to 125 grains replacing the titanium ferrule with steel would give additional weight and reduce the overall length of the current 125 gr design. I'd like to see a1.25'' width broadhead with a steel ferrule of maybe 150 grains.
Yeah, I wish they had that size as well. I sometimes carry both the Original and the Wide in my quiver--one for super long shot and the other for closer shots.
Great as always! I'm trying to decide between these or the Tuffhead Evo 2 both in single bevel. And thoughts on which you prefer?
They're both great heads. I'd definitely want bleeders, for anything other than Cape Buffalo.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures ok thank you again for another reply!
Hopefully you can get ahold of some of the new vector broadheads they are coming out with.
I'd like to test those as well.
Great video once again John, but are these heads are a replaceable blades
Yeah, but it's just as easy and not much more expensive to buy new ones. They are guaranteed/replaceable as well.
As far as top dollar broadheads I'd probably still have to go with Annihilator XL's. Great review as always 👏🏼
Thanks Brandon. I like the Annihilator XL...just a pretty small hole.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I agree the 1 1/16" is a little small but it keeps them flying straight and it has a huge cutting surface area.
Are the blenders necessary for the single bevel in your opinion Pastor? Or can you explain from flour experience why adding bleeders?
I would think it reduces rotation..but your the master here....
The bleeders are single bevel as well. In testing, they do not reduce the rotation. They do reduce the penetration a bit...but only slightly, and I'm sure even with the bleeders they will pass thru just about everything they hit. So why not cut more tissue while you pass thru? The wider hole created by the bleeders also reduces friction for the shaft to pass thru more readily.
Anyone complaining about the cost, I will give some advice that’s really old, like me. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. PERIOD !!!!👍👍😀
Yeah, that is very true with these. They may be out of some people's price range, but they are not overpriced for what they are.
Good information
Thank you
I shoo these and love them but one note that might help some people: Because they are blade screwed to a ferrule the tip of the blade isn't always lined up straight out of the box. I just ordered a set of iron will 150 single bevels and their insert/collar system for a new set of arrows and was nock tuning them and was having some issues when I noticed that 2 of the 3 broad heads weren't perfectly straight which was giving me false negatives while insert tuning. It actually apparent in this video with the double bevel head you can see the tip is wobbling when you spin it. With a torx head its really easy to line the tip up perfectly yourself but just thought Id share that, if you do another video on them it might be helpful to check that and share with viewers. Great videos!
Thank you for sharing that!
I have vented 100gr. They are amazing! Penetration is beyond impressive especially with lower lb bow. 60lbs. Watch IW video by their founder. Explains it really well. Nice job, John. TY
Thanks David.
Are you shooting double bevel or single? That’s impressive!
Do you have all of your results on a public Excel spreadsheet? I’d love to see all your results and how they stack up. Thanks.
I do for 2020 and 2021; they’re in a summary vid at the end of each year. I’m working on one for 2022
I would love to see you test the New FIRENOCK DAGGER IN 100 GR TO COMPARE to the IRON WILL.
I'd like to test that head. If someone sends me a pack, I'll gladly do it.
I was thinking between the day 6 evo’s or IW’s but I’m going with the evo’s, they penetrate better, fly better for me out to 80 and are easier to replace blades and get lined up vs the IW if you had to replace. Oh and they don’t rust like IW. Great vid!
Rust is a good mention for those who live in places that weather like lots of rain, is the issue with rusting.
They're both good heads.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yes, indeed even it this head is a tick more durable the other is probably the best stainless steel you can get.
Day six are brittle
@@Gibbs-Bijan-moon negative
Single bevel looks awesome! Trying to decide between the SB and the wide series for whitetail. Any suggestions?
SB in my opinion.. less surface area than the wide so they may be more accurate. But both will kill a whitetail with a good placed shot!
I'd go with the Wide for whitetails. They fly very well also--but not as well past 60 yds...and make a much larger hole. Penetration is an non issue with whitetails with either of those heads, but you'll cut much more tissue with the Wide.
This was my same question… already received the single bevels. But I’m going WIDE
@@LuskArcheryAdventures vented or non vented wides ? Only hunting old mature ghosts 😁👍🏻
just curious what release do u shoot and do u shoot it with back tension?
I've gone thru a ton of releases. For the last 6 yrs, I've been really liking the Spot Hogg Wiseguy. It's a wrist/trigger release. I prefer the hook style for quick connection and the solid post.
I really want to see you test the Grizzlystik Maasai 200
Thank you Caleb. If someone sends me a pack, I'll gladly test them. Would be very similar to the recent Crimson Talon Cleaver I just tested.
Hail to the Iron Will. (I haven't purchased the Bishop yet)☺️
:)
How would you compare the IW single bevel to the VPA single bevel?
They're both really good. The steel in the IW is a bit better quality and the bleeders adds a bit more cut as well.
With those heads you get what u pay for great video . 👍
Yep. Thanks for watching.
Have you created a site with all of your results in a single spot?
I've not. But I am working on a spread sheet. I posted one for all of 2021 testing on my Facebook Page at the end of last year and will do that again this year. Lusk Archery Adventures, on Facebook.
I have both of these and they are both outstanding but one thing not mentioned is because of the way the SB is sharpened the bleeder blade actually has a slightly smaller cutting diameter (1/16”).
Not a huge difference but if you measure them you will notice.
That's interesting. Thank you for sharing that.
I think you should do an Iron Will vs DAY 6 Broad Head Battle, A2 Steel vs S30V
Well, the A2 Tool Steel would be my choice for broadheads. Both are really good, but A2 has a much greater resistance to impact than S30V. And in a hard impact, that can make a difference.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank You, that is EXACTLY what I was Curious about.
I think single bevel did awesome job. I might have to give it a try.
Thanks for watching.
Very nice. Would love to have some, but I am putting my kid through college😂
:)
How do think they will fly from fps xbow sir? Value your opinion.
I think they would fly very well.
Geez, there is no wonder they cost so much. I thought I wouldn’t want to use anything besides Magnus stinger or the cleaver by crimson talon. I think I’m going to have to buy a 3 pack of the SB or DB by IW.
They are nice.
I've always wanted to try out iron will. And honestly the price is the only reason I don't. Not just because how much they are but more because all the great options for 60 dollars and under. Not a nock on any one here .. if this is your head then that's great.. they are awesome. And more than likely i will end up having the single bevels I'm my quiver one of these days
Thanks Mikey.
My apologies if I missed this in your video, but what degree is the single bevel sharpened to?
32 degrees for the single bevel
@@LuskArcheryAdventures thank you, and the rear bevel is 35. I just had to watch another video you made. Lol. Thanks again.
Hi John would you say that IRON WILL is your favorite broadhead of the lot?
No, I wouldn't say that. It all depends on what I'm hunting. But I would say it's one of my favorites.
yes I understand thank you 👍
I have 9 of the Single bevels in Snyder Core version all 135gr with a 10 grain collar an a 20 grain insert.
Nice!
I'm not a bleeder fan (whistle) but these are incredibly built. I would forgo the bleeders and bump the the cut up another 1/8th inch or more if possible. IW with a 1.5 cut would be a jakhammer.
Thanks Mike. They do have a 1 3/8" wide head that is pretty impressive as well; it's called, the Wide.
Wonder why they don't do the 100gn in buff (no bleeder blades) they only start from the 125gn in buff mode
I’m not sure about that. Maybe they just think people using that want a heavier arrow. But I’m not sure. That would be a good question to ask them.
Great warranty. You can get the broken one replaced!!
No you read the fine print and it's only if it's damaged from passing through an animal then they will replace it. Target shooting and especially destruction test isn't covered.
Yep...when used in a hunting situation.
I want to shoot these so bad but I can’t get away from the QAD Exodus. It would be awesome if IW came out with a three blade. Or……A single bevel three blade. I shot the “hurricane” a few years ago. Great concept but the metal was soft and blades were really dull. I bet Iron Will Bill could take that concept and hit an absolute home run with it!
Yeah...thanks for sharing that.
Awesome heads but out of my budget.
Yeah...not for everyone, that's for sure.
Double...good luck
:)
Went with the 125 grain single bevel just so I can sharpen it easier
Yep. Good choice.
They are impressive. Don’t see one Negative.
Yeah, they are great...pricey, but great.
If they had a standard size solid with bleeders in 250 that’s what I’d be shooting!
Ok
I’ll take the single bevel 1/2 the sharping.
Yep. I really like that as well.
the single bevel turned 15 deg at 10.5"...and you conclude that it cuts more tissue ....oh dear.... while mathematically you could calculate the cutting line of the outer tip, but with only 15 deg, and the relative small ratio "cutting projection of the BH vs penetration into the gel" ratio we talking here about fractions of a mm ....every muscle contraction and movement / response of the animal will affect the length of cut tissue much, much more...
if you really want to use this criteria, you would also have to measure the penetration into the gel accurate to the 100th of a mm ...and it may well be that the "more" cutting you get from the 15 deg twist is well outperformed by a 0.5 mm deeper penetration of the double bevel.
Look up “starburst cut from single bevel”
Wraps the tissue up (if super soft mediums like lungs) and makes small nicks in areas that I have seen as far at an inch away from the main wound channel. Mathematically you are correct, though. And no I didn’t knick it with my knife :)
@@ppoutside6723 ripping or wrapping tissue up is actually a "bad thing" - why? ...because it consumes much, much more energy (which is limited in an arrow) than a clean cut. The cleanest cut will consume fewest energy thus will result in max penetration. Locally your "starbust" might do a nasty damage, but doesn't lead necessarily to more bleeding respectively faster blood loss, and it comes with a hefty "price tag" as the penetration will be less.
Other down sides of a single bevel is less cutting efficiency as the bevel angle is usually bigger; if you want to keep the same cutting efficiency of a double bevel you actually weaken the cutting edge.... (that's why kitchen knifes never come with a chisel bevel, and that is why a convex blade / bevel is the strongest blade shape on a knife).
If you believe in this "wrapping myth": just keep your BHs blunt and you will achieve the same impact...
@@WM-jy9dz Something tells me you have little or no experience hunting with a single bevel because your theories don't line up with reality.
@@MatthewC137 well, as a start: I'm a member of the fraternity of knife sharpening cappuccino lovers 😎, my grandpa was butcher, and I know no one who would cut lungs (I cut a lot when preparing dog food) with a single bevel knife that has a thick blade...hollow grind, flat, saber, chisel, scandi....convex ...all these grinds have a purpose, and the physics they apply to are the same that are valid for BHs....
@@WM-jy9dz I knew I was right.
A2 isn't the top tier broadhead alloy. S7 is often considered the premium choice for a reason. Technically 3V would still be better than A2, just way harder to machine and the wear resistance is unnecessary. It's one of the very few flaws of the IW heads. The other "big" flaw is the screw.
The modularity allows tighter tolerances and quality control, with improved material preservation. Bill is an engineer, and he designed these things like an engineer would--to work perfectly in all scenarios, but just barely so. Overkill was exchanged for production capacity. That being said, every IW head coming off the line is going to be indistinguishable from any other head of that size and style. That says a lot.
I've wanted to find fault with them, but I can only say I don't like the steel choice and I think the two piece design is great for most people but not what I desire. If the rear edge had the bevel on the other side it'd have better rotation in flight. They don't have the spearhead shape of the Ashby head so punching through the shoulder isn't an option on elk or bigger.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Bill is not an engineer, but a Physics Teacher :) I like S7 as well and prefer a single piece head in some ways. But these component heads have proven extremely durable and allow for very high tolerances in production, as you said. I completely reject the faulty reasoning of the 3:1 principle of Ashby. Great for designing a wheel chair ramp, where lift is involved, but has little to do with cutting. I'd take a shorter head like these on an elk shoulder over an Ashby design any day.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I could have sworn that Bill had an industrial engineering background. I might have mixed him up with someone else. Either way his engineering is top notch. He knows his s***.
However the 3:1 theory has legs. Looking at history, the weapons designed for stabbing were all narrow with gradual tapers to the sharp point. The more the emphasis on stabbing, and less hacking or slicing, the more spike-shaped the blade. The issue is dependent on the medium you are cutting. Softer media won't show a huge difference. Narrow arrow points with gradual tapers penetrated deeper into chain mail (bodkins and the like). I've compared an acute splitting wedge with a wider maul in cedar rounds in the past. Even though the final width was about the same, the wedge drove deeper while the maul ripped the wood more. In sufficiently tough media, or inconsistent media, you'll notice the mechanical advantage. It's more cutting an opening, and less ripping apart the layers.
When sushi chefs cut large slices of meat, they draw a very long blade through the meat to cut gradually because it lowers the peak force to cut as opposed to pushing straight down from above. Guillotines had angled blades to slice instead of chop. Chop into a stack of cloth compared to slicing a longer blade with about the same amount of total force. The mechanical advantage is in spreading the cutting force along the length. You can't really say whether it's easier to cut a single strand of yarn with low advantage, because the threshold is so low. It gets complicated with bones because they are brittle, but the logic still applies.
The Ashby 3:1 head just gives the advantage in heavy bone or cartilage, like ribs on bison or the actual ball and socket joint. It's the solution to a specific problem. It can work in any environment with little detriment, but there's very few environments where it is the best solution. Knowing my luck and skill, I'm likely to hit the socket and lose penetration, so I advocate for preparing for the worst. In a wall of softer material, the surface friction might hinder larger broadheads, but with bone and cartilage and that nice lubrication known as blood it's hard to fault the 3:1 heads.
You'll never change someone's mind on the Ashby reports or the factors, but I do want to show that there's nuance to the idea, and that being effective isn't the same as being necessary. You can either be picky about your shot placement and angle, or be as flexible as possible. Quartering away and from a tree stand on any deer is ideal so you'll never need the high mechanical advantage. If that's how you hunt, then don't worry about it. It's a solution. If you don't have that problem, then you don't need that solution.
Only heads better are the Bishop's way more expensive
Yep. Those are pretty amazing heads.
I like everybody knows by now that demi and wills will pound They do a great job and what the build for but you better not hit them with a field point Say you shoot in your broadheads and your field points together to make sure they're hitting the same spot don't hit that broad have that field point You will do some damage to that broad end I think I got 2 of them at home that I was targeted practicing with to make sure shooting with my field points A naughty couple chunks significant things and things in to them brought it I love the broadhead don't give me wrong I love it to death it's a good d*** gone head but you can break them
Yep, everything has a limit--especially when hit from behind.
For that money they worth they should have done better
I own like 18 of these heads and the warranty won't be covered unless you prove the head passed through a animal and got damaged
No more of these for me
Kudu are excellent
Well, they did better than 95% of the heads I've tested...so that's pretty good. Not sure how much better they could do. But to each their own. I like Kudus as well.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I hear ya...I'm not doubtful on the performance that's why I own so many I seen you do tests with cheaper heads and held up with no edge chatter on the steel plate
The warranty is what bugs me I shot a buck and was so excited I never thought of taking a pic and the head was complete pass-through hit rocks bent the ferrule where the blade sits and didn't warranty it because no proof
I’ll take the single bevel 1/2 the sharping.
Yep.