How Dutch Men Were Recruited For the Waffen-ϟϟ in the Netherlands during World War II
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- Around 25,000 Dutch volunteers fought for Germany during World War II on the Eastern Front. How were Dutch volunteers recruited for the Waffen-SS? What was the role of the Dutch collaborating party - the NSB - in all this? What was the role of Anton Mussert, Meinoud Rost van Toningen and Hendrik Seyffardt in the Netherlands during WW2? Dutch volunteers for axis service were put in these three formations: Standarte Westland (Wiking Division), Dutch Volunteer Legion (Vrijwilligerslegion Nederland) and the Landstorm.
History Hustle presents: How Dutch Men Were Recruited For the Waffen-ϟϟ in the Netherlands during World War II.
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- Veldgrauw. Nederlanders in de Waffen-SS (Evertjan van Roekel).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) The Netherlands (Evertjan van Roekel).
- Wiking. Een Nederlandse SS-er aan het Oostfront (Henk Kistemaker).
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History hustle I hope you are aware that the word hustle has several meanings ,one being fraud
You watch the story and read the book about the Corrie tin Boom Family. Or the couple who lived near a nature reserve . Both working hard to save Jews and other "undesirable citizens" from the Germans.
Then here are Dutch, fighting their own citizens. Doesn't make sense.
You and Mark Felton make the best WW2 videos.
Thank you!
So very true Mark's videos are awesome
Mark "I felt it so it must be true" Felton?? You are an easily programmed robot.
@@haroldfiedler6549 What are you referring to?
I’m not a genius but this guy loves talking about the Netherlands a lot
What gave it away...
No kidding Sherlock :)
Dutch teacher. Duh
You're right. You are not a genius.
@Danny Treffers Keep of the steriods, it effects your critical judgement
Many people always forget to count the overall amount of Dutch volunteers in the German armed forces. A few Dutchmen, who were living on the borderland near Germany - most of them had German ancestors or sought their livelihood in the German employment -, were able to join the German Heer, as soldiers or Wehrmacht auxiliaries, like many Latvians, Estonians, Ostvölker etc. Others joined the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine as auxiliaries. It is estimated that around 10.000 Dutchmen had joined the NSKK, the Nationalsozialistische Kraftfahrkorps. An underexposed subject.
Never heard of it. I shall take a look at it.
@@jackshit71 True: www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/showthread.php?35723-Nederlandse-Luftwaffe-vliegers
Two of the four Dutch pilots already died during the war. Maybe there were some more Dutch Luftwaffe volunteers who just served as auxiliaries. I already knew there were also some Spanish, French and Croatian pilots who turned over to the German side. Even as the foreign volunteers in the Luftwaffen-Legion Lettland and Luftwaffen-Legion Estland.
@@HistoryHustle YES the NSKK was a huge organization, in English it was the "National Socialist Motor Corps" with members from all over Europe. They were the drivers and mechanics for the German Forces... Almost NO videos on CZcams except for videos showing ceremonial daggers, etc...
Amazing detailed history we often are never exposed too. Thank you for sharing 🇺🇸
You're welcome. Thanks for your reply.
Interesting content! I live in Atlanta, GA, but born and raised in Gambia. Studied history in HS & College, but the lockdown took me back to my old fascination with world events & history. I enjoy your passion for history. Thnx
Welcome to the channel, Kebba!
You should go back.
Thanks for the video much appreciated
You're welcome, Adrian! Thanks for your message.
Great to see you on here again
Again? :)
Love the interesting content. Thank you so much. Very enjoyable to watch.
You're welcome! Thanks for your message.
Ive just found these videos and I love them. Subscribed!
Many thanks and welcome to the channel!
Very informative.
Thank you.
Good stuff thanks
You're welcome!
Moie dag mijn vriend! Great video, as always! Really appreciate you making these kind of videos.
Many thanks as always!!
For some reason this video escaped yesterday, but as always a nice one, thanks.
Thanks as always. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Agreat vid... informative thank-you
Good to hear:)
Very informative...keep them coming my friend...just subscribed also
Thanks Anna!
Always look forward to my History Hustle fix on a Saturday. The videos are always interesting and well presented. The story of the Nazis and the Dutch and how they interacted is a fascinating one.
As always many thanks for your support!!
Hey i like your videos,Its really interesting.
Thank you!!
Great content, I like your channel.
Thank you!
Such an information, it took a lot of searching. You tell it clearly.
Many thanks!
One of those interesting but uncomfortable topics. Well presented.
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Ik leer meer van jouw video’s dan uit de geschiedenisboeken!
Bedankt, Jordy. Leuk om te lezen.
Weer een zeer interessante video Stefan! Ik ben benieuwd naar de aflevering over Mussert.
Bedankt! Zal er komen. Dat beloof ik maar kan nog even duren wel. Ga eerst nog een dikke pil over de NSB doornemen.
@@HistoryHustle Hoe heet dat boek?
Ik geloof NSB. Op bol.com zie je hem gelijk staan.
@@HistoryHustle Bedankt
Nice vid! Would be interesting to make a vid about the involvement of the landstorm ss in operation market garden
Thanks. Very niche subject you propose. It might be covered in either a Market Garden video or one about the fighting the Dutch SS volunteers were involved in.
There we go. Thanks a lot..
Hope you like the video.
Hi Stefan, Weer een zeer informatieve aflevering. Ik luister graag naar je, maar ik vind 4 advertenties in een docu van 12 minuten net ff te veel van het goede. Keep up the good work.
Dank en opmerkelijk. Ik had het ook!
@@HistoryHustle :-)
I love your videos and just subscribed could you make a video on scandinavians in the Waffen SS i am from sweden so that would be interesting. Keep up the great work 👍🙂
Check the recent episode I made about Norwegian volunteers.
History Hustle oooh thanks 🙂👍
I think Finns also had a ss division
Nearly at the 30k already, keep it up
Thanks. We'll make it!
31k already 💪👏👏👏
Great content, Great channel.
Could you make a video about the dutch army/navy who fought with the allied forces after the capitulation of the netherlands. There is little to none of it on youtube
Keep up the good work
Thanks. Your suggestion will be elaborated on in the future. But expect 2021.
Good video btw!
Thanks!
Weer een parel op het internet! Dank u.
Bedankt!
Top!
Dank!
I enjoy how you tell the stories of the Netherlands and surrounding countries in WW2. Its history that you do not normally hear about.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the content. There is much more to watch so feel free to browse around :)
Subscibed
Welcome to the channel!
Are you going to do the battle history as well?
Next episode after Summer.
Thank you for your upload. Question, are you wearing a German (SS) jacket? Repro?
Kind regards and keep up the good work
It's a German drill uniform. And Thanks!
History Hustle graag gedaan. Are both the visible tunics in your video originals or reproductions? Are you also a collector of WW2 German memorablia?
Goed weekend
Repro and no, I do not collect. Purchased them for the video. Cheers!
A very clear exposition of the subject. I look forward to the next instalment.
25,000 men was enough to form a full division and have a reserve manpower pool to keep it up to strength for a couple of years on the Eastern Front. The fact that two Dutch "divisions" and a regiment were fielded by the W-SS is a measure of the inflated W-SS order of battle.
That said, no other Western European population volunteered in sufficient numbers to bring a division to full strength. The others, at best, could have sustained a brigade for any length of time.
You're welcome.
If you add up the Flemish and Walloons from Belgium, they would be the size of a division. Also, while not part of the SS (well, some later became part of the SS), the Blue Division (Spanish volunteers) were certainly division-sized.
@@rodafowa1279 What you say is true, but doesn't conflict with what I said - "no other population group".
The Wallons and Flemings are different population groups and, as you say, the Spanish Blue Division was not part of the Waffen-SS.
@@markaxworthy2281 Last time I checked, Flemings and Walloons were part of the same country and therefore, should be counted together. As for the Spanish not being part of the SS, what does it matter? If they volunteered in 1943 instead of 1941, they would've been part of the SS.
@@rodafowa1279 The Walloons and Flemish are quite distinct from each other, even though they are currently in the same country. Nor did the Waffen-SS regard them as the same.
The Spanish had the opportunity to volunteer for the Waffen-SS in 1943, but only a battalion-worth did so.
The Dutch were by some way the largest national group in Western Europe to volunteer for the Waffen-SS, in numbers just sufficient to sustain a division at the front for a couple of years.
Indeed, outside the Netherlands, Norway and Denmark, the Waffen-SS lagged behind the Germany Army in raising a Spanish Division and "legions" from other non-"Germanic" peoples like the French. Only in 1943, when the Nazis belatedly decided to declare a "Pan-European Crusade" again Bolshevism, were the other Western Europeans transferred to the W-SS.
The subject here is the W-SS, so there is no "should" about the Spanish being included here. However, I am more than happy to discuss them.
Why are all the history teachers so cool?
What can I say...
Do you work at a school and wich one? Also great content
Thanks. I teach in Wageningen.
I really love your channel it is veryinteresting to me especially being told by someone from that region and of that culture my name is Terry I'm from California just want to say I love history world war I and the great war I hope eventually you start talking about the Irish in world war
Many thanks for your message, Terry. Cheers!
Mooi om te zien die lijn tussen noord en zuid Europa op 02:23. Als Armenius, Prins der Cherusken niet had gewonnen in het Teutoburgerwoud hadden we deze verschrikkelijke Oorlogen hoogstwaarschijnlijk nooit gehad. (Want dan had die lijn nooit bestaan) Keep up the good work @History Hustle
Nooit die link gelegd, maar interessant. Dank voor je bericht!
@@HistoryHustle Geen dank! Er is wel een goede docu over; Geheimnis Teutoburger Wald uit 2015
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Could you make a video of the NSKK? my great grandfather was a nsb-er and NSKK member but I can barely find any information.
Interesting topic. Perhaps I'll make a video about it in the future.
As an Englishman now living in the Netherlands and learning thier history, i can honestly say, after visiting Kamp Amersfoort and listening to your videos, i am much more in a place in my head re WW2 now than i was before. I lived in a country that was never occupied. Now i live in a country that was.... And history is all around. Please keep going with these very informative videos....Edit. One thing i have noticed is the map behind you on the wall with several videos. Nordirland is not the UK as shown on the map. Petty i know , but do you in the Netherlands want to be called Belgium?...I dont think so. Sort the Map behind you please.
Thanks. Do check out this playlist:
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My oma's cousin, Willem van Gemeren (1922-1943), was a medical student in 1942. According to my oma, Willem attended a university party where a kind of "army enlistment list" or "army volunteer list" was passed around. Many drunken young men, including Willem, signed up during that party. While researching records about him, I discovered that he joined as a shooter in the SS-Panzer-Division Wiking (5th SS Panzer Division Wiking) on 8 May 1942, and died on 4 January 1943, in Zimovniki, Russia.
Hello Stefan, I am from Israel and I study history in Haifa's university, I wanted to tell that I enjoy your video's very much, I learned things related to your country in that war that I did not know, one day I wish to make a CZcams channel like yours myself, best regards.
Great to read, thanks for your comment.
Thank you for the interesting video. Where is it possible to find the beautiful map of occupied Europe behind you?
Dutch eBay called Marktplaats.
@@HistoryHustle Dank U wel!
How about the Dutchmen recruited in Kriegsmarine (KM)? I saw the Dutch KM flyer on website but lack of information regarding those issue.
Have to research that.
Hell yeah! Actually, Kriegsmarine consist of various foreign personnel during the WW2. Ever seen photograph of KM sailor with Croatian (Hrvatska) badge on his right sleeve. It also a very rare photo, but I haven’t seen any photo documentary of Dutchmen KM in websites. Did many of them survived until the end of the war?
I liked this episode, however I was waiting for when you would start talking about how they were recruited, and then the episode was over. I don't feel that you answered the question in the title.
I believe I did. What info was missing you think?
@@HistoryHustle I just thought that since we saw some posters in the opening that you would talk about what methods they used to make people join up. Maybe I was mistaken.
I see. Have you seen the first episode? I also talk about it. Perhaps this will answer the questions you have.
Mooie weergave, ook de relatie en ook rivaliteit tussen enerzijds de NSB getrouwen aan Mussert als ook de Nederlandse Nationalisten die voor het grote Germania stonden, zoals Meinoud Rost van Tonnjngen als ook commandant Feldmeijer. Dat is iets wat niet goed is onderwezen in de kennis en volksvorming van na oorlogse generaties
Dank voor je reactie. Zeker meer hierover in de toekomst. Ben er nu over aan het lezen. Zal nog wel een tijdje duren voordat er video's over komen, maar komen zullen ze er zeker!
I predict he will have 30k subscribers in 1 more day
Let's go for it!
My great grandfather was in the 23rd SS Nederland, moved to America after the war.
Thanks for sharing. What do you know about his experiences?
@@HistoryHustle not much, he enlisted in 41 cuz he really hated commies, went to the Eastern front, and towards the end of the war he ditched and made his way west to surrender to the Americans.
Thanks for sharing.
The overall amount of Dutch volunteers in the different branches of the German army was about 45.000 men. The highest of all countries in Europe, putting aside the “Volkdeutsche”, of course.
Have you seen the video?
Indeed, Belgium was 42,000, Albania was 7,000 on 1,3 million. Estonia was 20,000 on....etc etc etc.
G'day from the de Vries family Adelaide Australia
Cheers! And welcome to the channel.
1:13 He does the correct German finger 3, after seeing Inglourious Bastards I'll never forget that.
An unforgettable scene.
Was the Landwacht also part of Landstorm or was this a Wehrmacht subsidiary?
I believe the latter.
Thanks for taking the time to write down your insights.
Would you know where I can find period correct rijglaarzen?
No, sorry.
@@HistoryHustle that's a shame. Thanks though.
Agree! Rare pieces.
Even replicas would be good.
I can't tell unfortunately.
Why does your map say "nordirland" or Northern Ireland about England? Please educate me!
This German map gives the name of the whole country: "England and Northern Ireland". The letters of the latter word ended up over England.
Great video, but you missed an important factor that was brought up in this interview. czcams.com/video/BemxLdS5szc/video.html "Wim" the Dutch SS Veteran mentions the religious component. As you know it is the south of the Netherlands, Flanders, and the Eastern regions all the way to the North Sea that are heavily Catholic in the Netherlands. "Wim" grew up in the Twente and was Catholic and thus the recruiters calling it a crusade against the atheistic bolsheviks made it even more attractive. You know the defense plans of the Netherlands. The Twente was outside of even the first line of resistance, so "Wim" says they felt very much written off by their own government. I would love to know what you think about it.
Hi Michael, thanks for sharing this. It is understandable some joined because of religion but the research I studied didn't mention this. I wonder why. What I can think of is the following: in the Netherlands fascism wasn't intertwined with religion (unlike Belgium for example). This was due to the 'verzuiling' (Pillarization) the Dutch church rejected fascism/nazism. Yet, it could very well be that recruiters used the argument you give to get more volunteers.
Kan je deze video ook in het Nederlands maken
Er komt binnenkort ergens een Nederlandse versie van de eerste NL in Waffen SS-video. Deze zal geen Nederlandse versie krijgen.
@@HistoryHustle alsnog bedankt
How interesting, over England on the map at the beginning it says Nordirland. Coincidence? I don't think so.....
This German map gives the name of the whole country: "England and Northern Ireland". The letters of the latter word ended up over England.
@@HistoryHustle that's just the official explanation, but I presume reality is different. As you said it's a German map heh(laughs in Großes Deutsches Reich).
Ok
2:19 Native Dutch have share the same ancestry with the Germanic
Partially true. Germans and Dutch aren't the same.
@@HistoryHustle But the closest, most compatible.
The Dutch are „purer“ Germanic than the average German. The Germans have a high degree of Slavic heritage especially in the east. Groet uit Keulen.
@@darkdestiny1989 LOL
Mooi duits tuniek in de achtergrond
Dank.
@@HistoryHustle 👍🇳🇱
You should bookend this with how Dutch men, mainly from the West Indies/ Caribbean/ Suriname and expatriates from the US, Canada, and South Africa, were recruited for the Princess Irene Brigade and other Free Dutch forces during WWII.
Interesting. Can't tell much about this topic.
1:29 Liberated, not invaded.
No. Invaded.
0:58 - I thought he said "how Dutch men joined the FF"
Pronouncing can be a struggle.
Does anyone know how you get them SS signs because I’m always baffled
I'm not a collector, nor I want to own that stuff.
History Hustle no I don’t mean that sorry I mean on the title 😂
Copy pasted them!
History Hustle sorry I didn’t mean to annoy you
Now worries. I meant that I copy pasted them. Cheers.
Want wij zijn Nederland we vechten voor ons land juichen en we springen als we winnen
Heb je het nu over oorlog, voetbal of beide?
The Dutch soldiers who fought in the battle of Tannenberg were fierce fighters, the fighting there killed over 170,000 Soviets while the Dutch, Estonians, Flems and Jerry SS soldiers only lost just under 10,000
I believe you mean the Tannenberg Line in Estonia. Tannenberg is located in former East Prussia, now Poland.
@@HistoryHustle That was it I forgot the line
@@oveidasinclair982 Well, the 4. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzer-Grenadier-Division 'Nederland', the Dutch SS division which participated in the battle of Narva - the previous battle - and the battle of the Tannenberg Line, suffered serious damage.
@@FreekZoontjes Yeah they did, look at what they were up against, they were undermanned as were the other units and the Soviets had a tremendous numerical advantage and those Panzer-Grenadier units still prevailed. They held out for 6 months until they were ordered to do a coordinated withdraw. It was a knock down, drag ass nasty ass fight for all involved.
Jerry SS.....you mean the Britisch Free Corps of 50 volunteers they never fought at Tannenbergstellung ( Estonia ) in september 1944 at the Narwa front
In march 1945 the BFC arrived in Stettin(Pommeren ) under command by Douglas Mardon
britisch ( Jerrys ) vollunteers ....a myth
I read that Austrian nationalists,such us Otto Bauer wanted to be part of Germany in 1918,after November revolution in Germany in 1918.On October 2, 1918, Count von Wedel informed the Foreign Office that the Austrians, in view of the national disintegration of the Habsburg state, demanded annexation to Germany. They, in his opinion, saw in the Anschluss the last hope and at the same time insisted on a clear German policy on the issue of joining
I see. I havent Read that much about this so I cannot elaborate on it. But thanks for sharing.
Thats the logo of the W.A. not really of the NSB
The N, S and B are on the logo...
History Hustle not in the first one with the Wolfsangel
Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing out.
Landstorm Nederland heeft bij Arnhem nog zwaar gevochten tegen de Engelsen. En waar is Feldmeijer? Hij was dė facto toch de aanvoerder van de Nederlandse SS?
Klopt maar niet de Nederlandse vrijwilligers voor de Waffen SS. Er is dus een verschil tussen enerzijds de Nederlandse SS en anderzijds Nederlandse vrijwilligers voor de Waffen SS.
The information about Mussert being more pro-Dutch than van Tonningen - whom I'd never heard of until watching this upload - is competely new to me. After living 10 years in NL I was always under the impression that Mussert was the bad guy, like Quisling or Petain. I still think he was but I am just surprised that van Tonningen is less notorious. But I guess that van Tonningen too would have been executed, had he not committed suicide, although both the English and Dutch language wiki entries on him mention the possibility of his having being pushed rather than jumped to his death.
Mussert being pro-Dutch and less antisemitic doesn't make him a good guy or anything. He sure was a fascist and collaborator.
@@HistoryHustle I agree that he was a bad guy, I just don't understand why he's more well-known than van Tonningen. Or maybe I just didn't know about van Tonningen.
I believe he had a higher position. Van Tonningen was never the NSB leader.
@@PB-xe3xx Yeah but to be fair he'd probably have been executed anyway, the same as Mussert was.
He was the highest decorated of that lot. They were maybe misguided but no shirkers military.wikia.org/wiki/Gerardus_Mooyman.
True. Talk about him in the future!
@@HistoryHustle You have to talk about this man too in the future: nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Bastiaan_van_Heutsz
As an SS-Obersturmbahnnführer he was the highest ranking, and the oldest, Dutch volunteer.
Mussert never was anti semetic, and he was a dutch national socialist, wich is a ideology different than german national socialists,there are some books published by the nsb in wich their ideology is explained, the first of them there stood for the dutch facist and national socialist, somewhere after 1940 they decided to make it for the dutch national socialist(they wrote every year a new one) quarter of the funding of the nsb came from the dutch indies where support for the nsb was big,
Thanks for the additional information.
The Dutchman was looked upon by the average German, at least those that lived in Germany. They were treated as outsiders and the Germans would mock them for it. Germans would not buy from there stores and cover there stores with signs. True story.
I believe that. In the future I will talk about how this was in SS service and that wasn't much of a difference.
While the video is informative, it does little to explain HOW Dutch men were recruited into the Waffen SS. I had an uncle, now long dead, a very gentle and meek man who had been a baker's apprentice in 1940. He was lured to volunteer by the promise of a Volkswagen. I kid you not. He was told by the recruiters that, once the war was over, all volunteers would be first in line for jobs and receive a Volkswagen for free! My uncle served on the Leningrad front as a machine gunner and survived the war with shrapnel embedded in his back, but he never got a volkswagen, or any car, for that matter. When he fell ill, later in life, he refused any X-rays, for fear the shrapnel in his spine would show up and lead to unwelcome questions. He subsequently died of untreated lung cancer. His children never knew of his past.
Thanks for sharing. See my video on motivations:
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The previous vid supported the view that innocent young Dutch men only joined the waffen ss to see the world, to have a good time, and when they slaughtered Russians they were only doing their job. The Neurenberg defence. Now we have this vid, informative yes, but almost normalising the concept of Dutch elite nazi waffen ss troops. Hmmm. There's something of the right wing is this channel. We'll keep an eye on this.
@E. R. What an in depth and intelligent comment. I couldn't quite get your point. Could you clarify? rsvp
@E.R.: not the friendliest reply.
@timkbir chico: I have no political agenda, nor I want to white wash any events.
Normalizing what ????
He's giving the information "as is", so without telling people how to interpret the facts.
I think you're highly underestimating the intelligence of the public.
@@jankoevoet4042 did you watch the previous vid?
@@HistoryHustle so what does stfu mean Mr. Polite?
Well, I still cannot figure out if you were playing the devil's advocate, when you said that the average Dutch Waffen SS member joined it in order to travel and explore the world. The globetrotter was part of an entourage that wrought havoc, destroyed cities, towns & villages, murdered populations in cold blood, sought to enslave people, especially in the Soviet Union, just as the other colonialists did across Africa, Asia and the Americas. In fact, Hitler's stated goal of his invasion of the Soviet Union was to enslave its people, and murder those who wouldn't submit, his ideal was the British colonisation of South Asia. And he got these Dutch and other volunteers, who decided to take the joyride with his invading forces. And the Germans, or the English for that matter, did not hate just the Bolsheviks, but they hated the Russia, early on, when he was the Orthodox Christian, toiling under the Tsars, themselves part and parcel from the West European royalty. There is something of a racial hatred the West European feels for the Asiatic Russian.
I refer to me previous video on this which is backed by historical research.
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Yes, you were. Congrats 🎉
Lachen man!
Vind het niet echt om te lachen maar goed...
Wasn't there a difference between an SS division and the so called Division of the SS, the first ones being very strict on Germanic roots and the latter one having no regulations like that at all.
I don't know what you mean with the name. I guess that one had the totenkopf emblem? Later in the war when they were desperate for men to fill the gaps they changed to need to be aryan. (So more men could join)
SS -Division = German volunteers
SS-Freiwilligen Division =Volks Deutschen and Germanic volunteers
Division der SS =East European or others volunteers
@@destadhouder3689 ah thank you for the addition.
Thanks for sharing
Divisions of the SS, were not real SS, but supporting SS troops, most volunteers were divisions of the SS but not real SS. it is best shown in the Muslim SS forces on the Balkan.
This individual needs some medication ......and he is inciting hatred ....
No I am fine thanks.
Regardless of the how and why ...they still fought under a foreign flag ....the fact is many Dutch believed in
fascist and anti Semitic ideals ......it had a lot less to do with being anti communist but more to do with their own beliefs of being aryan .....the Dutch have a weight of guilt ...especially in Eastern Europe .....and their colonial history remains questionable .....and no history teacher On a revisionist quest changes historical facts .....the Dutch and Flemish have hidden behind German invasion ....even though to this day fascist ideology still pervades these duchies ...
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D*
K. Hoorn ...Ich verstehe .......niederlaender ......das verstehts du.....hhhmmm.....
I have no political agenda with this video.
@@rosrebel Ja... ik... versta... je... goed...
History Hustle ....do disrespect ...I was slightly drunk .....😉and the demons took over .........best of luck ....still a good channel ....and I stay subscribed ...
In my opinion your vids involving Dutch SS volunteers are (somewhat?) politically “colored”.
Almost all the facts you mentioned are correct, however there is a odor of sympathy, understanding and silent approval for these volunteers.
Simply stating that boredom, lust for adventure, career opertunity and anti communism (come on, in rural Holland politics played no role) where the main factors to enlist is too short. The real question is “what sort of man” did volunteer.
Enlisting in the German army, especially the SS was WRONG!. Period!
Germany started a war against the Netherlands, thousands have died. Only the bombing of Rotterdam cost almost 900 innocent lives. Several hundreds of resistance man and woman, tortured and killed. Hundreds of civilians shot as reprisal. The 110000+ Jewish Dutch who never returned. Tens of thousend died of starvation.
DECENT MAN DID NOT JOIN.
Mind you, I do understand the feeling of those poor peasants in for example the province of Drenthe. Neglected by their own government, children walking barefoot, families of 15+, high infant death toll...and there is Germany with its funny Adolf. Work, food, modern, Booming economy, progressive....within 10 years from poverty to a nation where workers could enjoy a vacation. I can understand that out of envy the NSB was very popular.
Still, It is a shame that so many viewers of your Chanel (see reactions) seem to glorify these SS volunteers. You provoke/enable this without comment.The picture you display at 11:00 is an example of that. Got nothing to do with historical facts.
I do not intend to glorify these men and I distance myself from those who do.
@@HistoryHustle thank for your answer and honesty, however be aware of how (and the way in which) you present your info. As you undoubtably have noticed a fair amount of the reactions have been put forward by relatives/decendences or silent admirers of those “brave” Dutch SS men.
Maybe a modified form of presentation could work in your favor.
Noticed your grandfather used to live in Amsterdam (DamSquare incident). Half of my family too, can listen hours on end to my father of what he experienced as a boy. Especially the last two years removed te innocence out of a 13 year old kid.
@@alfredvonk7686 Thanks for your reply. My goal is to deliver history (as unbiased as possible). That being said, the reason why my episodes about the Dutch volunteers haven't touched on their dark sides, is that these still have to be made. So far I've talked about motivation, recruitment and training. Combat history and crimes will follow.
I've noticed these reactions also. Sometimes I wonder whether these people are revisionist or simply fascinated (with a lack of seeing the broader picture). I'm more worried about antisemetic posts under videos about the Shoa. Most of these are already deleted by the platform, but its sad to see so many people comment like this.