Understanding US indictment in Pannun ‘plot’: Puppets, puppeteers, diplomats & spies
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- Indictment filed in US court has accused ‘employee of Indian govt’ of masterminding ‘plot’ to murder Gurpatwant Singh Pannun. In Episode 1358 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta looks at claims made & evidence presented by American intelligence agencies.
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3:25 - Trudeau's allegations spurred diplomatic row between India & Canada
6:45 - PM Modi addressed joint session of US Congress during state visit in June
10:35 - Defence is yet to present its case before court in New York
13:47 - Nikhil Gupta is only accused identified by name in indictment
16:40 - Indictment cites conversion from 'encrypted messaging application'
20:30 - As per indictment, 'CC-1 assured Gupta his Gujarat [case] was all clear'
24:45 - Indictment cites message by Gupta saying there will be 'more jobs'
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Time to quite Franklin Templeton Chacha. I would not buy a exercise cycle made in USA let alone investments..lol
Sir, how are you related to the Gupta Empire?
This straight out of the fascist hand book. You create this fake threat to India and you demogog and make grand conspiracy, and this assassins are portrayed as Patriots which they are not against Minority groups. That's what is being play out all over the world with different fascist groups.
It's like a movie plot, well planned..Only different between two neighboring nations , things U S intelligence SMARTNESS THAN CANADA INTELLIGENCE..
DETAILS EXPLANATION BY YOU , THE PLOT EXCEPTIONALLY WELL NARRATED....REMEMBER THOSE must have fear in mind , who work against their own mother land nation, through using foreign country's nationality & freedom ,
Sir please talk in hindi so we uderstand
"CC-1" stands for "co-conspirator 1". It's a common legal term used in criminal indictments in the U.S.
As he's projecting it as a Confidential source, the entire story is getting changed.
I think it stands for chief conspirator 1 . Because on his behest plan is executed
@@cloudkeyboardasmr6909 He called CS a confidential source, not CC 1.
No CC - 1 stands for Chaman Chutiya # 1 for hiring Gupta ji to play James Bond
CC1 is top rank Indian government official in charge of this operation.
Indian police officers can never go
'rogue' & that too against wishes of their political masters....
Impossible 😅😅
Yes 👍 because they cannot afford to INVEST in MUTUAL FUNDS 😂🤣
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
@@arsalanmirza3411 Nither do they want to invest in Hallala and 72 virgin goats nor on a Phedophil 😅
@@arsalanmirza3411😅
💯 I used to think SG is unbiased, but he can’t even say anything against Indian Govt.
I can’t imagine this being done by RAW but if it is, you need to fire everyone for incompetence and idiocy
Its such am amateur hit job. Am sure the dons in Mumbai can do a better job. All these babus are pretty pathetic. They get the job though some political connections or through graft and have no skills or talent
that's what you get when you promote people based on the color of their chaddis
Dr.Jaishankar and Mr.Doval have a lot to worry about
Remove doval & sanghi EAM
Guptaji didn’t reveal the cc1 is a police officer who was a high raking officer in Gujrat police. May be he was trying to repeat Gujrat model of fake encounters overseas.
It is also important to note how Pannun himself has reacted to these two cases differently. While in the Canadian case he has issued open threats, in an attempt on his own life he is leaving it to the US to deal with it.
It's likely that the us asked him politely to keep silent or it could also be simply this " Pannun is an agent of CIA or some informant to some us government agency" and they want him to keep quiet anyways to not rupture two nations relations.
he is a CIA 'asset' remember 😅
he has started talking about ballotsvs vs Indian bullets.. basically he's a very crafty 'layier'😂
@@3limabean yea lmaaahhahao but wait you know I am still not sure did the Sikhs in general, got anything out of this?
Two points. 1. I think Indian communication system is compromised, nsa probably know a lot and 2. There may be double agents working in the Indian Government. Both worrisome
Bin Laden had a better communication system. He never used emails or mobile phones. All his communications were through couriers. Here they are talking everyday over the phone, exchanging emails, sharing screenshots etc. RAW should take lessons from Al Quieda
incompetence even more worrisome
Yeah the same People......
who wants to start civil war in india especially in kashmir & punjab region......
& its consequences will to deaths of Lakhs in india.....
punjab from 1984-1996
kashmir from 1989- till today......
Enemy with america is dangerous but to be
friends with america is Fatal....
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
indian intel has to get better than 5Eye network or learn from mossad that constantly surprises CIA, 5eye etc lol 😃
or our agencies are severely incompetent, and Doval and EAM are not the chads that sanghis think they are.
Do you think Canada would have come out with such a statement in Parliament without having a consent from US? 😅😅😅
Hey we are buddies USA and Canada can you say that about Pakistan. Lol learn from others
Yes. If Canada didn't come out with the allegation, the news would have come out. Trudeau will be asked in parliament about the incident and if he lied, he would be liable to be impeached for lying to the parliament In any case, he could not have hidden the matter for long. I don't think any PM will take that risk
@@malkeitkaur3046you’re not buddies don’t fool people. Residing Canadian and Canada is just a puppet of the US; Americans respect a Mexicans more than us Canadian. Buddies my foot
@@malkeitkaur3046 not “buddies”, one is a pet and other one is the owner.
@@vivek-420 Please don't discuss your family dynamics here.
Canadian in India here. Fascinating story with plenty of facts. I watch your channel to have a better understanding of current affairs. Thank you for your approach (policy?) of no flag-waving.
Why would any Canadian go to India? Unless you’re Indian yourself
@tylerclayton6081 what s strange comment. Why would a Canadian visit any country other than his birthplace and current country of legal residency and domicile? Are you serious?
Even a 14 years old , offcourse untrained person will not do these foolish acts . Forget about RAW
but who else could this be. the gangs?
i guess raw has a significant hand in this.
it's just that they hired unprofessional private players to carry this out.
There are 8 Indian nationals in Qatar facing death sentence for spying. X navy guys.
@@shaikdastageerfaizurrahman9461 I don't think so because even msgs sent from india doesn't make any sense... my name is ... and save this as ... and do this... here is the video of other attack... who talk like that from agency 🤦♂️😂😂🤣 obviously no one... they use code words... revealing own name and sending other attacks video is too childish to be done by any agency as every country know they can decrypt msgs.
If the person got arrested while telling someone else or because he said something somewhere then i can understand... the agency handlers talking like children playing games and casually talking doesn't make any sense... 😅😅😂 with code words indian person would have denied the allegations byt he said and wrote literally everything 🤦♂️😅😂
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
The indictment clearly says he’s a officer from Gujrat police
Small correction sir , Nikhil Gupta didn’t fly from india to Czech Republic , he flied from usa to Czech Republic.
What a shoddy op..🤦♂️ making Indian agencies the laughing stock..
Cleaning this will take a lot from our MEA.
Hunter got hunted.
It is not clear that indian agencies did this. I would be disappointed to learn that they are so inept if they did in fact do this.
Callous, at the very least. Thank you for watching and writing in, Pratik...best wishes, Shekhar
They are merely following the orders of their masters - you only have to look at their ham handed approach against the opposition parties within the country .
Why people are against RAW in comment section???
Please support unknown hero of India in difficult time....
Always remember you are doing nothing for nation..
One weakness in Shekharji's relentless comparison between the mature Americans and the immature Canadians: I wonder how the Americans would have reacted if we had gone ahead and killed this Pannun fellow. I can't help think that American response would be less mature!
And this is front-page news in American papers it seems, which say a serving GoI employee was trying to assassinate an American in the US.
Further two RAW officers have been kicked out of the US and the new RAW chief in DC has been blocked from coming.
Finally, this case makes it clear that US intelligence knew that we were trying to kill multiple Sikhs in Canada and California earlier this year (May). So the whole "nobody believes Trudeau, there is no proof, the world is with us" angle is again the usual self-deceptive thinking that we Indians are prone to.
So I feel Shekharji's dance about the American response being somehow more "respectful" of India, professional, etc is just wishful thinking.
Some times Guptaji goes overboard being nationalistic. Such an amateurish job by Indian intelligence, when caught harps back saying ‘be respectful’
These events also gives more credence to usual Pk allegation of similar sabotage at their county. Moreover india looks more like a country ruled by despot sending hired hitmen overseas
I feel in this game of chess , India has been dealt check mate. How we deal with our next move remains to be seen.
@@niharikakhare8763 They will grab the pawns and start over again. No big deal.
@@niharikakhare8763nothing....India can always hire a white dude....the question is how much US is prepared to fcuk with us in this issue which should be absolutely non issue for them. Are they prepared to fcuk up their relationship with India over Khalistan.
Shekhar has to be careful or he will end up in jail with no bail. He knows this.
Difference between Canada and America….. America is stronger country.. China is stronger country…So tone is different…..very simple!!!!
Lmao China arrests people as they want. What a silly comment
And what is your tone? Khalistani deshdrohi
Hindutvadis are cowards ever since, they can only rape women and kill unarmed men.
Canada ignored us on Kanishka and let murderous khalistanis go free . Payback time
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
In this indictment there is a statement that the photo of Nijhar was shared within hours of his death from India to US
Yes. CC1 had photos of the killing within hours
Probably the guys who killed Mr. Nijhar took the photos as some kind of proof that the assassination was completed, and then those photos got shared by CC-1.
@@newyorkskierthat’s the allegation not an evidence. You may tomorrow come up and say someone sent me a video but how will you prove someone really sent it to you?
@siddharthg8134 It is true.
The situation/ incident has many intricacies. An officer (Rtd) from CRPF, oblivious to the tracking and recording gadgets. A killing contract by the Indian Govt. via someone via someone - for a paltry sum of Rs. 1 crore ($ 1,00,000).
Let's see the unfolding.
Can’t believe Doval uncle is running a comedy show? Even Taliban has better SOP in place …. What could be the real story here?
Story is Childish.. false.. a comic Story... CC-1 ask Mr Gupta who is untrained to Terminate Pannu and Gupta ask Terminator to kill Pannu and also told that such operation has already been conducted in Canada Pakistan 😂😂😂😂
Note to India, having a criminal with no loyalty and little incentive to be loyal, carry out a mission is a bad idea.
Hunter got hunted like situation. India thought they are acting discreetly without getting caught. . Americans on the other hand were watching every movement of India right from the start.😎
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
Shekharji, this makes one think that Pannu must be a CIA asset. Otherwise how there is so much attention by the Americans on a purported contract killing attempt of some random American citizen by drug dealers? Going by Hollywood movies these things happen on a conveyor belt in the US
Pannu is not a random citizen. Just read his profile if you dont know
he is US citizen ....that's enough for attention...americans value the lives of their citizens unlike India
@@arnabkundu3406 You know nothing about US and apparently about India as well!
Nonsense. How many innocent US citizen are killed every day , what action did the US govt take? How many US citizen killed in their foolish wars. Did they protect them? They don't like rise of India. @@arnabkundu3406
@@arnabkundu3406Goro ka kitna muh mein lega? 😂
What's funny is that Major gaurav Arya discussed this on his channel, this is exactly how he suggested that we should get Khalistani in canada. This was much later the timeline described by shekhar Gupta. So i am proposing maybe let's not implement the most obvious sounding plans to take out our enemies. Let's think then through and please don't settle for the first idea that pops your mind, mr. Head of spies .
Can you provide more information so I can find both of them. Major Arya episode, date, name of channel. And the SG episode when he talked about it. Thanks
Do you honestly think that if indeed Indian agencies were involved, they would do such a botched job of leaving messages and videos knowing what a diplomatic nightmare this would be esp on the heels of the Nijjar assassination accusation? The whole thing looks amateurish and staged to implicate India.
Finally bhakts coming to terms with the epic failure that this whole fasad has been. Why not just ignore the Khalistani elements? They got what they wanted, which was free publicity lol. Even they themselves couldn’t have wished for a better way to publicise their cause. Nice own goal scored there by the Government of India under the leadership of our supreme commander in charge Modi.
Why are you crying ? BJP is simply following Godse Model against Traitors. We never needed any External forces to crush British or Mughals. We are descendant of Brave Maratha, You think we scared of some pussy Biden ? We are not Pakistanis.
Jokes on you.. We are celebrating. If anything, This is more Popularity for Modi and Current Govt, proving their love for the Nation and Overwhelming support from the People, Whicih you will soon see in 2024 elections.
Yeah the same Dissidents......
who wants to start civil war in india especially in kashmir & punjab region......
& its consequences will to deaths of Lakhs in india.....
punjab from 1984-1996
kashmir from 1989- till today......
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
Who ever is doing it, is doing a good job
See our future generations will be thankful to these people who are called villains by America and Canada
These people called udham singh criminal, but Indian saw him a freedom fighter
So don’t care what they say
These people are our unsung heroes, we will appreciate them as society
America can’t threaten Indian people thinking, there choice and America can’t decide our heroes
We should remember the Ranbir Singh saga of 2005. It is possible US has moles in RAW. Need to strengthen the indian system.
I am sure they do. All countries have moles in the other country's intelligence system. Look at Israel - a close friend and ally of US. Yet Israel spies on US and US does the same to Israel
Every spy agency has some double agents
Why US iCanada aren't ashamed of its citizens involved in anti India activities on their land inspite of several objections raised to US & Canada by India diplomatically
US and Canada are taking action according to their laws ....Pannu is not doing anything illegal in America ....he is just shooting threats to India which doesn't have any weight
@@arnabkundu3406It seems people have the hobby of giving fellatio to Westerners. Giving threats of blowing up planes is a crime even in the USA. But idiots not understanding larger geopolitics won't get how hypocritical western nations are. They will always be in awe of white skin - typical of brown slaves. Happy licking.
Freedom of expression exists here unlike in India under the BJP fascists.
@@arnabkundu3406 even if he issued similar threats to US he would still be well within his rights. Pannu is a smart lawyer and choosing his words carefully never crossing the line.
Are you seeing Israel crying in front of every country for the protests that are happening against them? No, because they deal with the governments, what someone on the street is saying doesn't matter. India also needs to grow up in these situations.
US can deport Gupta to US but India cannot do so for Pannu. We Indians need to wait.Also we need to remeber who killed Sri Homi Bhaba, Sri Lal bahadur Shastri.
That's why USA is THE SUPERPOWER.
Where's the proof? Need solid evidence.
Pannu has not committed any crimes in the US as per US laws. If so, India can easily file an appeal for his arrest and conviction in a US court of law. That is the first step before extradition. What hasn't India done it? Just because India says, extradite one of your citizens, the other country has to respond. They have to prove in a court of law in that country that Pannu is a criminal and has committed crimes in India (not in the US) before an extradition request can be make. If he has committed a crime in the US, then India can request the be tried under the US justice system and be punished. In any case, you have to first prove the crime in a US court.
The Social Media is doing a number on you
@@newyorkskierAgreed. However I am worried of Mr. Pannu's warning of flying on an Air India flight because he claims it to be dangerous to fly in the anniversary of air India bombing. Mr. Pannu is certainly not an innocent guy as painted by Western media and if an Indian said the same thing about American flights on the anniversary of 9/11 then it is certain that the US would have an initiated an extradition proceeding with India.
Trust print to clear the cobwebs around complications…SG as always, is a master storyteller. This hit job looks amateurish and it will be ludicrous if Indian agencies are directly involved. Let us see how it goes in US courts, but these are warning bells for Indian security agencies, they will need be more guarded in future. Morality in spy verse is seldom followed, so let us not get into the merits of it.
Thank you for the words of appreciation, my friend. I'm glad you found this episode insightful. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Shekhar Ji Kindly do an episode on Henry Kissinger and his legacy, with both his brighter and darker shades...!!! Please, otherwise you'll fail yourself and us, as students of strategic affairs...!!! 🙏
I think he already covered some part of it in the previous cut the clutter
Darker mostly
Modi is the master of strategy and intrigue mitroh .
Script for new Bollywood spy universe movie ! 😂
Never. India is the loser here. Hehe
it's a comedy.
I am surprised about a few things - first : how did this Sikh man (Pannu) get citizenship in US. For most US-bound Indian immigrants go through a rigorous security check which takes years to ensure that the immigrant is not a criminal/terrorist. Since GOI labeled this guy as a terrorist, how did he get American citizenship? For an ordinary immigrant , if GOI labeled you as a terrorist/criminal how likely is it that immigration would allow you US citizenship? If US allows terrorist to be citizens, then they are either incompetent or concomitant with Khalistanis. Secondly, it would be a madman act to be dependent on America for protection against China. I had assumed that Quad was a diplomatic trumpcard to do bidding against China, with the understanding that India will have to compromise with her northern superpower neighbor. US-China are former allies against the Soviets, I don't really understand this strategy. Is it a good strategy to be an adversary of your superpower neighbor? Very surprising indeed.
Khalistani are only terrorist for GOI. US allows citizenship since they file for politicial asylum.
Very well analysed & commented 👍🏻 Bharat can never depend on these so called friendly nations that are trying to stop Bharats rise by nurturing terrorists on their soil & under their protection to create instability in Bharat. Pity, they may end up losing Bharats alliance with all this petty nonsense.
He was Canadian when he applied for US citizenship. Indian passport is third class, things are easy when you have western passport
US alliances are on short memory spans for short term gains and long term pain esp now in the ME ? 😃
There is little doubt Americans consider these Khalistanis as assets to be used against India if India goes against US interests too much. The action of the supposed R&AW officer seems very immature to the extent of unrealistic in the whole story. There is definitely more to this story than meets the eye.
India should not try to do things which are out of its AUKAAT
Kiddos like you must know your AUKAAT before posting from a FAILED OBNOXIOUS STATE 😂
Gupta ji who "googled" for a contract killer is going to spend a long time in jail for his idiocy and CC-1 (Chaman Chutiya -1) who hired Gupta ji to play desi James Bond should be dismissed from service. I thought RAW is dynamic org like Mossad or CIA , but in reality it seems to be a "hole in the ass gang" of bumbling bureaucrats & amateurs
Accurately said
he should have stuck to shopkeeping
US vs Canada difference is stark and clear in the headlines itself - ‘DOJ files charges against an Indian’ vs ‘Canadian PM accuses India in parliament’. Proper procedure vs absurd political grandstanding.
Well that is the difference between a full democracy vs partial ones like india
@@balwindergill5486Why does full democracy murder Qubec secessionists ?
@@skywalker8940seventy years ago?
@@balwindergill5486lmao india isn’t a partial democracy, what a stupid statement
So killing of Osama doesn't make it USA a partial democracy . And would you like to shed some light on how the hell India is partial democracy ?
@@balwindergill5486
To be fair (and not selective) can we expect similar indictment filings against President Obama for killing someone using US special forces in Abbottabad in Pakistan ?
I don't think it's an authorized operation bec R&AW know that these kinds of operation doesn't involve Phonecalls, pictures & encrypted apps.
You are giving too much credit to RAW.
@@berserkhorimiyaEven a Taliban intelligence😂 won't do it through phone calls,encrypted apps these are basics US is cooking a story that's it
I'm gonna make a wild guess and say that RAW was trying to test the waters and was successful in understanding CIA's tactics.
@@berserkhorimiya not RAW even normal techies know this 😅😅😅🤦♂️ It is open secrete and it's not like USA do it. Blackberry was almost got banned in India because they didn't wanted to share decryption method for their messaging service but later they agreed at that time it was the encrypted messaging service which decryption method was shared with many governments... whatsapp msgs can be also decrypted but normally governments aquire by google drives... so basically this is just open secret for techies... if anyone doesn't know then they are really dumb.
that would be the best case scenario but it looks like incompetence
Assuming both the nijjar and Pannun matters are similar, the issue to discuss is not how USA and Canada handled the matters, but the fact that two Western governments have complaints about Indian Raw is concerning.....
Two western governments trying to keep Khalistan saga alive is not concerning for you?
@@cyrusthegreat3081very well said. He is more concerned about "western" governments 😂 who while sermonising others, hypocritically carry out targeted killings of Iranian generals, nuclear scientist's of friendly nations & others deemed a threat to their national sovreignity.
@@cyrusthegreat3081they have free speech
@@anshuraj4277 what? Read about Snowden and wiki leaks founder Julian assange! Don’t be naive!
@@cyrusthegreat3081 I assure you that very few people here have a position, let alone even know about that issue. The person who was targeted, like anyone else in the country, can say whatever he wants as long as it's not a direct threat on someone's life, a very specific scam/crime, or something similar to shouting "FIRE" in a movie theater. He is even free to criticize our leaders without any repercussions, that's his right in this country. There is no plot to aid "khalistan" (not sure what the name refers to).
Indian officials involved in this case has no chance of getting out of the country to travel anywhere. The moment they are out in another country, they will be arrested and deported to US
Ghanta.. karke dikhaye .. gaand mein dum nahi
Nope buddy , if any indian official is indeed involved he would have been given diplomatic passport providing immunity from such action against them.
It's common practice among intelligence agencies.
In the worst case scenario the person can be declared Persona non Grata but never be arrested
@@RohitKumar-cj9jklol.. Nikhil gupta would tell u otherwise from jail
@@jabhishekpaulNikhil Gupta was an American drug trafficker with an arrest warrant in Gujarat according to US court proceedings. Ring a bell.
Indian Government now must have realised that
at least on this occasion
India is not a VISHWAGURU
One month later mad this will be a lost matter. No one will talk about this. Just wait and watch.
If this turns out to be true(I don't think it is) I will lose all faith in the Indian establishment. The problem isn't the that they ordered a kill but the level of incompetence with which they did. I could do a better job than this out of college.🤦♂️
India is not a banana republic or a rogue state, our Govt agencies will never resort to such acts which will have very serious repercussions. This is either a misrepresentation, staged or ordered by some rival gang who is now shifting culpability to the Indian Govt.
@@pria209 They have filed evidence. They already have the accused arrested. It doesn't look like a lightweight case. We can verify some details easily from our end as well. Like was there some serious case against some Nikhil Gupta in Gujrat and was it "taken care of"? If yrs, then it corroborates the story. Some Indian official arranged the money and ordered hits.
@kvineet631 That is the claim and there's only been an indictment, the evidence is yet to be verified. From what SG has shared, it looks ridiculously executed for an agency like RAW to be involved, the exchanges sound very novice like.
@@pria209 Somebody very high up in the govt has fucked up. Doesn't matter if it was R&AW, IB or any other body. Somebody had the reach of managing cases in India and arranging 100s of thousands of dollars for hiring hitmen in the US. This is someone up there, just extremely incompetent.
@kvineet631 How are you su sure? Have you examined the evidence? Why are you trying to do someone else's job for them? Just because a major Western power has made an indictment, you automatically got convinced and are trying to convince others that it's true? Truth will face trials but will always prevail.
The way India is handling the Pannun plot, are they admitting involvement in the Nijar murder and proving Canada right.
😂😂 ok IFS officer
Even if Indian govt involved I'm happy modiji Govt doing the right thing...
If the Indian government is involved , it means that they Mean Business when it comes to their Sovereignty !!! Why is Israel fighting Hamas again ??? And who is helping ??? Not the USA 😊😊😊 one rule for me and Another for Thee !!!!
@@user-vl4iz4sf7g: I wonder if you will feel the same way if Hindus are murdered by a foreign power for demanding " HINDU RASHTRA?"
@@vijaym2823: The Khalistan issue has been dormant for decades in India. BJP is pissed that another Hindu party AAP has taken 90 out of 117 seats in Punjab. They are following the congress playbook of Lionising Bhinderwale and making him a Frankenstein to beat Akalis in Punjab.
Few things (1) our undercover agents who could be from history, political science background need a crash course on computer and network security (2) espionage, targeted killing of national enemies is not a new concept. Everything said and done, does it mean if a terrorist is US citizen US will save him at any cost? If Indian consulate is attacked and no action is taken so far, is Pannun more important than Indian diplomats? Can it be the same for US officials in India?
This is Anglo Saxon West's sub-nationalism problem.
They need a United India. But have encouraged sub national elements in India for a long time. That are now coming home to roost.
India is not going to be effected by this. No matter how much Trudeau jumps up and down.
why don't you buy better audio equipment
the ad at the start sounds so much better than Shekhar
Lol true. Looks like he's talking on his phone from the toilet.
Reading indictment does not say much about the journalistic analysis.
Need Shekhar Gupta’s assessment towards The impact and need and involvement of IB and RaW.
When gvt and Modi are in the dock don’t expect journalism from Guptaji.
Regardless of the differences between Canadian and American approaches to the situation, the common thread is that some Indian "government official" stands accused of organizing an extra-judicial assassination. Whether the charges are borne out in fact or not, it does seem to be a pretty amateurish operation, but will most certainly serve to damage India's reputation considerably.
The best India can do now is damage control, and that includes not just cooperation, but a total condemnation of such practices - no more defensiveness. The US has done this with a great deal of sophistication, and India must respond likewise, otherwise, India's rise will be set back very, very significantly.
Kids will operate like this
SG is the master of story telling. Excellent analysis
Unbiased report By Mr Gupta
Shame on anti-indian karan Thapar of wire who is trying to blame indian RAW
They should've hired Pathaan or Tiger to do this, why did they find an amateur agent. But I guess both of them were unavailable after having taken retirement.
Asking the Indian gov to investigate is akin to asking police departments to investigate thier own.
So what are u gonna do about it?
@skywalker8940 🤣😂😅 I'm gonna scroll down to the next vid and never think about it again.
In real democracies it happens.
@@gurbaazsingh9353 We don't think that this individual represents the laws and government policy of India. But, it does give the Canadian case an air of credibility. It's just something that can't be done between nations like the United States and India. It's serious, but we aren't overreacting.
@@seanavp I view the Canadian case as an extension of this one. I think it was a good cop bad cop situation.
Pannu is employed by FBI, and he is getting so much weight. Time for India to start reverse indictment and filing of court cases in India. Get all Desi Americans working against India.
Quoting Sahir Ludhianvi was spectacular. Thank you for the advise to all Indians
Time stamp ?
When u recruit agents based on recommendations by party officials then such amature work is bound 2 happen,
Tbh the whole thing looks like a comedy show. Can't stop laughing. Imagine how much the agent preparing this report might have giggled 😂
Shows your level of idiocy
Ha Ha, if only it was not about taking another man's life
They are power drunk and people who are power drunk starts to think like they are god so hindhu goons did the same. Plus they been killing Sikhs in India for so long and now they started to think it’s normal. Hindhu goons
The gloves came off after the Punjab bridge incident with Shri Modi - the Khalistani went too far that time. There will be a learning curve for Bharateeya agencies in this new style of operating, but surely they will get more sophisticated with time. I would like to more smoothness, and at the same time a harder edge, from the MEA when responding to these allegations. For example, "India convicted", complaint by an MEA official was a self-goal and unsophisticated. Disclaimer: there is no evidence that Bharat was involved, although that really doesn't matter in this situation.
Your reporting on the Canadian side is partial. Reports state clearly that Treadeau informed Modi about this and in fact wanted Modi to cooperate in the investigation.
The Indian Prime Minister refused. That is the issue while in the US case also the US first informed the indian side AND the US agreed to cooperate
So your report is partial. Also this evidence was SHARED with the FIVE EYE in JUNE itself.
If you want to know how bad law enforcement in the USA is and how notorious they are in cooking up plots to convict individuals just read about 3 cases I’m mentioning and there are a lot of such cases there.
1. Steven Avery case
2. The Staircase death - writer’s case
3. When they see us - 5 new york black boys’ case
Sure typical sanghi idiot defence
So it seems you are a NRI ! 😁
system works as these cases have been discovered and action taken ? 😃 but laborious and hassles
@@JATTPB04WALAno need to leave USA, he is just stating facts here. Don’t be in awe that USA is utopia or pinnacle of excellence it is way far from that 😂
Don't forget Assange, they want to punish under traitor law, when he is Australian.
Sad to see so called neutral person like Mr Shekhar Gupta has to spread propaganda to defend murderous plan of India .. as Indian I am ashamed
Ashamed of what? Did any other country better than India? They assassinate other country leaders
@@nrajput08 he said bycott air india, not blast air india. Stop listening to godi media news.
cry more khalistani, cope
These people now started to say Sikh is not really a religion, it was group created for protection 🙄
Every one forgets that India tested their nuclear bombs under our nose. We have also understimated India. This is some unprofessional work here. Could be a rouge agent.
More interesting is the question as to why the urgent need to to eliminate these elements was felt, even at the risk of losing important allies?
Does it have something to do with Amritpal Singh's arrest earlier this year?
Please remember that these are allegations made by the US. India has not confirmed them. Just because they have made an allegation it does not mean India did it and is guilty. US is not a holy cow that is always honest.
looks too simple to be any government sponsored operation. Even movies have better twists and layers. Sounds like a double-agent there.
They are power drunk and people who are power drunk starts to think like they are god so hindhu goons did the same. Plus they been killing Sikhs in India for so long and now they started to think it’s normal. Hindhu goons
well mossad trained indians and they both think they are amazing..recent events would suggest otherwise
One Question - Why has US not acted on Panun's video of threat to Indian Airlines flight - Are US citizens allowed to give threats to people outside India
they are all state actors. just to put on a show on tv. divide the people on race and religion so that its easier to conquer them. keep them in fear so they appreciate you for protecting them. it also gives the government the rights to limit your freedoms in the name of national security.
I was hoping for a Nostalgic episode of Shekhar Gupta and Henry Kissinger. That would really be a very good watch!
One simple question is, how US would have reacted to all out threat if declared on US by any foreign national ?
Simple answer...... USA went for the annihilation of Iraq and it's leader under s similar premise.
Sir do not lie. We know you know this other Gupta. In all likelihood you are the CC1 😂😂
Ha Ha. Very funny. Good one. You have a sense of humor. SG, you have to laugh at this joke. Good one brother/sister
Brilliant CTC! Thanks 👍
After 9/11, US undercover agency has become so discreet, very professional and technologically so advanced. No indictment is filed before the judge without solid facts. Assuming CC1 went rogue without authorization from above even if he is not extradited his life is going to change upside down.
CC-1 means coconspirator 1. In the US, whoever is not actually indicted is not named- because the unnamed coconspirator has no way of clearing his name in court. CC-1 has a straightforward defense- he will say that he wanted to "smoke out" the counter-intelligence operatives in the US. Hence the dumb moves. CC-1 will say: "Nick" approached me . and I saw this as an opportunity to discover counter-intelligence in the US. I have not committed any crime in India or in the US.
Shekhar: There are similarities between alleged activities of Jagtar Singh Chohal- Jaggi hired people over the Internet and traveled to Paris to pay someone from a terror group. In every country, drug dealers and low lifes are ready to kill
Nick Gupta: Why did he travel to Czech Republic? A sense of impunity?
Which case in Gujarat was dropped as a result of his "service to the nation"
Encrypted Apps are useless if the person at the other end is a government agent or cooperates.
Curious to know this:
Does assassinating these guys help India ?
That’s a very important insight. One more thing that intrigues me is how nobody on the Indian side reacted once Nikhil Gupta was arrested in Prague on June 30. If he was a powerful agency’s man, there would have been some reaction, or at least an outreach to the US since the arrest was on their demand.
There is still too much we do not know about this case.
Thanks for writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Which case in Gujarat was dropped as a result of his "service to the nation"
(Gujarat DGP says on record they have no case against such a name. National registry of narcotics crime also doesn’t have his name).
Encrypted Apps are useless if the person at the other end is a government agent or cooperates.
(That’s the question I raised. If CC1 was a senior enough person in an agency he would know better than you and I how how vulnerable these apps are).
Curious to know this:
Does assassinating these guys help India ?
(That’s a discussion for another day and on another platform. Or for when we meet!)
I am an ordinary person, and if I want to hire someone for something like this, I would rather meet him in person, not do entire communication over the phone? The most funny thing was the picture of handing over money in the car. :) Canada is pawn of US, they always use Canada first against countries like China and India, but in this case after trying to put pressure on India through Canada ( which failed) they were forced to come forward (June 30 to Nov 30), they took 4 months for this, mean time it sounds like India did not know that Gupta was arrested till today , may be they did not care do whatever you want to do?
If this was Congress govt, the Indian media including SG would be baying for MMS resignation. Everyone knows the buck stops at AD NSA, yet we will keep playing plausible deniability for all that matters today is how to keep the gullible Indians dumb enough to prop up a fascist regime
Overconfidence is the hallmark of this govt.... U know who directed who to do what....
@@Tejasisphoenixhe is a businessman idiot
@@Tejasisphoenixbeyond your imagination for sure
They are power drunk and people who are power drunk starts to think like they are god so hindhu goons did the same. Plus they been killing Sikhs in India for so long and now they started to think it’s normal. Hindhu goons
The problem is the length US has gone to protect someone who has threatened to blow up an Indian Airplane
the co - conspirators are the american and indian govt. this all a show , so that the people can be divided and conquered more easily. to keep the people in constant fear. when the virus was doing this job all terrorist of the world from isis , lashkar , hamas , khalistan were put in the deep freezer. now they are back and our heroic govt is protecting us once again.
At most US can deny Citizenship to RAW and visa permission 😅
They already have. All RAW stations in US have been shut down.
Shekhar Ji, how can you say that? Nikhil Gupta is your own brother separated at birth 😊
America ki Vishwaguru ko dhamaki dene ki himmat kaise hui
Kuch dallo ko desh mein rehke goro ki chatni ke himmat jaise hoti hai, waise hi. Dallal bc bhosadpappu b&d hote hai jo desh ki akanksha ka majak udate hai aur dusre desh ki chatate hai, namak haram b&d.
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
It's more like P!ssguru.
When pannu issued air india statement he was aware of threat against him. USA intelligence must have told him his life was in danger.
This is so stupid, if this is a GOI activity, shame on them.
All western countries do it, if India does it we have losers like you shaming them. No wonder India got partitioned cos of cowards like you
Excellent analysis and lucidity presented !
Totally biased and he is supposed to be better than others.
How stupid someone has to be, to do all that on mobile phones in this day & age.
Makes me doubt the ability of our intelligence services, we need young educated people in our agencies 😅
Only the educated brilliant young guys crack the entrance exams of RAW feeder agencies
@@friendsgroup470 Babus and civil employees are just bookworms and laborious. Not clever and sharp. There is a difference. By the way, the governments of America and Russia trust private contractors as much as they trust their own agencies.
@@friendsgroup470bro even our cyber cell is more competent than the alleged CC-1. I don't think the govt sanctioned this shit.
Vishwaguru in action 😄
Understand when this communication happened both was in india . May be they thought its safe here and no one is tracking their phone
how dare the indians try to eliminate terrorists' being protected by america.
An Indian national was arrested in Prague and there was no diplomatic tussle? No request for consular access?
Take note all those who thought SG was unbiased. Remember also Indian news media is ranked 162nd out of 180 in world behind Afghanistan Chad and Pakistan.
So you believe that the US is a holy cow that never lies or makes stuff up. Is it ?
It looks like RAW need some training from ISI.Such a immature agency.😮
The article in Indian Express sums up the situation.
Not a ‘Vishwaguru’, not indispensable: Nijjar-Pannun episodes reveal India’s delusions of power
If an American intelligence fails, it comes out via freedom of information act with heavily censored version or documentary. If an Indian fails, it's known in light speed. 😮
We can have a compromise. Us should hand over Pannun to India and in lieu we will hand over RG .
But Pannu is a U.S. citizen, they can’t legally do that without a court ordered by extradition
There is no deniability here. Just read paragraph 2. Is India going to say that CC-1 was not an employee of the government of India? In that case, the US would request that CC-1 be extradited to the US.
The possible deniability isn't the fact that he isn't an employee but that it was not an order from the govt of India. That it was a personal hit is what they would argue. How is the US going to prove that it is an official order?
@@yomamasohot6411 That's simple. The US would then ask India to extradite CC1 or at least allow FBI team to interview him. If India doesn't allow that then Indian government would be seen as blocking the investigation and thus assuming guilt. So, it's not going to be easy.
@@QabilAGhor extradition process can take a long time. There's a terrorist wanted for 26/11 in India serving time in Chicago. India can investigate, potentially find him guilty and make him serve in India before extradition or extradition has to wait while the defendant appeals. He may die before the extradition is completed.
@@silverbullet3939 I am not sure if there is an extradition treaty between India and the US. I am assuming there is none. The dilemma for India is that if it cooperates and provides access to witnesses, not just CC1, it can be found complicit. If it doesn't cooperate then people would automatically assume that India is guilty. So, either way, India is screwed.
There are many wanted terrorists in USA, India will demand them and USA will shut up @@QabilAGhor
Fantastic naration sir. This can be a super bollywood script. I was trying to know about it but mostly medias are agenda carrying and opiniated. But this not only have me insight but goosebumps..
Confused, I thought strategic partners always follow the same rules as the USA. I do not think the US always get the permission of other countries when it eliminates the thread.
Nice one!
I would not call this bit "unbiased journalism" or "journalism" at all. This bit by shekhar gupta is an opinion piece at best.
Its hilarious how the host is disowning an indian government employee 😂
Shekar: I believe that CC-1 stands for Co-Conspirator 1; just as CS stands for Confidential Source (sometimes also called CI for Confidential Informant) and UC for Under Cover. Major mistake: The amount promised is $150K not $15K. $15K is pittance for such a hit!
From what SG said, I think $15K was the advance payment.
Total amount promised $100k with $15k handed over before the hit.
These are the messages that are exchanged with undercover agent, that seems to be the reason they can understand the message. If intelligence agency only work with old school way, it will take too much time to do anything.
Intelligent journalist written at Ottawa, enacted the act at New York. Rulers of all these democracy are not statesman or well educated to manage democracies in a market of wars in Asia Africa Europe. It is Mad Mad word. In our days Chase in book but now in Kindle.Even now SG not realize the strength of NAN reliability on USA. Worry is the state mentioned and our judicial system in that state.
Fascinating story 😮🫡
What could be the possibility that indeed it was a deliberate operation done in a manner where SIG INT part was left open so that it can be tracked and then could be used to deal with Pannu and his aids, one it gives us a bargaining chip to sideline this guy or relations will get affected, two to let the world know that be aware of us, we're arrived in that league of states and three this domestically plays well for the Prime Minister and his government.
No. There is no sig int. Only dumb intel officer, who clearly shouldn’t be one. 😂😂
It's either the story I mentioned above or the other which is looking at the past records it's mostly a cooked up story by the CIA to do some bargaining with India, plus Pannu is their asset, there are multiple evidence that CIA created Sikh for Justice in 2007 and installed Pannu to take advantage of the situation in Punjab at that time. Also you are saying some dumb Intel officer, you're highly wrong about the intelligence world and how they operate. Agencies don't work in the way you're thinking.
Excellent and very well presented.
Lovely ❤sir great listening to the Journlist who has walked the walk in the FootSteps of India since 1970's newspaper reporting days Journalism. Yes non of us had internet then... in those beautiful days of our childhood
❤❤❤ Love my India 🇮🇳 forever❤
It is quite possible that an independent Indian could have place such an incompetent contract.
@3limabean Yes. You mean just like US doing to India. 😒
Yeah the same people.....
who wants to start civil war in india especially in kashmir & punjab region......
& its consequences will to deaths of Lakhs in india.....
punjab from 1984-1996
kashmir from 1989- till today......
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
@3limabean At best some Indian did it. Incidently, only morons do not care for money. West is NOT stupid.
Shekhar sir, the print is the only platform I use for my news and information. Thank you for doing such a wonderful job,you are a vivid storyteller. A true master of your art.
Being from the north east I also appreciate the coverage "we" get on the print.
Indian gunda raj exposed, we Sikhs have been highlighting this for decades.
Yeah the same Dissidents......
who wants to start civil war in india especially in kashmir & punjab region......
& its consequences will to deaths of Lakhs in india.....
punjab from 1984-1996
kashmir from 1989- till today......
&
Lol, America CIA is Still coming out of its failures of 1998 pokhran nuclear tests & Article 370 abrogation in 2019
Looking Great, Professor.
Well explained in clear terms , shekarji .
Nothing is going to come out of this. Keep calm and carry on . This is novice work of some patriotic guys and settling their drug syndicate transaction. Nijjar, Gupta are all involved in drug trade , so will not be surprised if there is a drug angle.
Ostrich
Sure, keep being delusional
This is such a stupid intelligence operation unless amrika staging this up. you have one man Gupta and then 2nd level is Indian official. Normally such operation should have a long chain and RAW should be way behind the plot.
why would he do all this
any homeless from new york streets can do this for sake of money