10 Doctor Who Moments That Make NO SENSE
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I'm probably not going to be the only one to point this out, but honetly my favourite point of the cue cards is the 'sorry I left you in Aberdeen' one, as a reference to Sarah Jane.
Which Clara would have seen in his timestream!
The thing about the cue cards is that this was when he was trying to be more sensitive at Clara's request. So it's just funny that she wrote some suggestions and him playing along not thinking he needs coaching just rattles them out. It's not a mistake and it makes complete sense for the 12th doctor
Yeah that one was definitely a miss. 12 was by far the least human / "people person" Doctor of the modern era (which made him awesome), of course he needed flashcards reminding him not to accidentally trample all over the feelings of the pudding brains he's constantly surrounded by.
I didn't mind the cue dards as much as how awkward Matt's doctor was, especially in The Lodger.
@@MarcelNL I never understood why people love his doctor so much but after watching the whole regeneration I see why. I think I just got used to the awkwardness 🤣🤣🤣 he's definitely hard to explain if you just pull random scenes
He does have amazing episodes and as a character he does grow over time.
But that goofiness is just cringe!
@@jairo909
To be honest, I had to rewatch the episode because I completely forgot that scene existed.
4: I think the reason was ruby's mother put her down and started to walk away, then the goblins appear, pinch ruby, then the doctor rescues her, puts her back in place, resetting the timeline, which is why her mother is still walking away
Good point. Another reason could be, that she stopped walking and watched what happend at the church :)
@@olivermayer6531 THIS! TY
@@olivermayer6531 or needed a rest as she'd just given birth
putting her back doesn't reset the timeline, or all the coincidences wouldn't've occured, he's just stopping her from being goblin food, but that moment was happening in his timeline and not back in the past, so it's not changing the timeline at all, it's just russel does not know how to direct this new show.
@@olivermayer6531 why the fuck would she've watched, most shitty excuse ever.
The Davros impression just about killed me XD
And I will avenge your death!
The Daleks have a Spin button also a Delicate Cycle...=))
And a quick wash 😂
Heavy loads for when Harkness pops by. 😉😱🤯
DELICATE!!!!
@7:20 - easy to figure out, when you're an engineer. Answer is: they didn't have a "spin button". There wasn't necessarily a one-to-one relationship between Donna's controls and the Dalek's systems, so she may have designated one dial as a macro to control a Dalek's rotation through their propulsion systems, as part of a suite of remote controls. So, when she turned the dial all the way it simply went max speed rotation that direction, which was then translated into the specific controls within the Dalek's system. Easy. 🤓
{edit] - oh, as an alternative, the Daleks may very well have a spin function but it's only meant to be used momentarily in order to turn, in combination with whatever other maneuvers they are doing. In that case, Donna's controls are overriding it, setting rotation to max in a specified direction, with no time limit.
Yeah, I always thought of it as the 'Enter' (Return) key on a keyboard, never really understood the complaint on this one
I've always guessed dr.donna did a lot of rewiring of the console before standing up where we could see her. They didn't have a spin button but they do now :)
Capaldi's cards make perfect sense. He's dense on reading a room and has zero chill so Clara made him a list of sensitive answers.
I always interpreted the Donna moment as her typing code to hack dalek systems, after referencing her typing speed - I thought of it more like an 'Enter' (Return) key on a keyboard than a 'spin button'
I don’t have any problem with the cards. I know many do. They say The Doctor knows humans well and shouldn’t need them. But many times he does seem clueless about human social interaction (sometimes it’s likely on purpose).
It seems to me the cards serve as a reminder of the human social niceties he just has no time for when he’s focused on solving the current situation.
Easy enough to imagine Clara sitting down and thinking up all the main things he might need to say and making them. Easy enough to see they serve as a reminder to pause and say the nice thing even when he’s busy.
It’s not that he couldn’t think of it on his own. It’s just that he’s rather not have to bother when he’s focused on something else.
And it’s funny.
Including the Sarah Jane reference cue card?
Also 12 early on was NOTABLY WORSE at human social interactions than just about any of his predecessors (except maybe Six), so it would make sense why he and/or Clara would agree that the cards were needed.
@@LumiRockets Hey, Six has been criticised much more than he deserves! Give him a break!
I don’t have a problem with the cue cards either. We have to remember that Clara is a teacher and his carer. In a previous episode the Doctor said she was his carer so he didn’t have to. Overall, not just this episode, It’s like Clara is trying to remind him not to bottle up all the pain. He’s been hurt so many times that he appears cold to human suffering but we know that really isn’t true. The cards are a reminder for him to try and connect again and not to stay detached.
That rock was never meant to hit Sally. She kept looking around. It was meant to distract her so they could move.
But she already had her back to the Angel, so throwing the rock merely made her turn around and face it, thereby locking it in place. Would've been simpler for it to just ninja up behind her. I was going to question HOW the Doctor knew it throws the rock to make her duck. But i guess that would be included in the transcript.
@@jamesward4561Did you ever notice, that Angels can move only when not seen, but they also only can attack, after they have been seen.
But it WAS meant to hit Sally, listen to the video. 2:30 Moffat says on the commentary that the Angel threw the rock to try and incapacitate her
To be honest, its more of a 'throw the rock so it misses and she turns to see what we're dealing with in this episode' moment. Moffat was just like 'here look what I came up with' in that scene
Time reset when the goblin king was destroyed. Pretty straightforward
Like a ragged baby...
"Boatswain" is pronounced "bosun". It's fine, though. Y'all may not be the fans of the Royal Navy that I am.
Fun fact: in Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey/Maturin novels, the IRISH doctor Stephen Maturin usually acts as a stand-in for the audience, having things like bosun explained to him, and thereby to the audience. Sean is in some good Irish company.
Thank you! That bothered me, too.
I came here for this as well :-)
I did too.😊
I'm a Navy Veteran... I figured someone would comment
0:28 when I first saw this one I was like.. YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH! Yeah 😂😂😂
1:20 "inexplicably" LOL
I always thought that the original torchwood found the hand and jack
repurposed it because they at the least had a base there with a giant laser and that definitely something they would do
It's much more likely that 'evil' Torchwood under Yvonne Hartman's lead was monitoring the situation (they did blow up the Sycorax ship after all) and sent a retrieval team for The Doctor's hand immediately from Torchwood Tower.
"It was my fault, i should have known you didnt live in Aberdeen" 5:26
The weirdest thing about Craig surviving the conversion isn't the power of love, but the fact that his brain is still inside his skull and his skull is still inside his skin and it's all attached to his body.
3:50 personally I always believed Torchwood One recovered it after seeing it fall from the skyes, probably, thanks to their scanners and satellites, and then Jack salvaged it with everything else after the fall of Torchwood One. After all, in Torchwood's episode 'Fragments', Ianto says he saw Jack's team salavge equipment from tje ruins of Torchwood One, to which Jack answered that he didn't want it to fall into the wrong hands. Or perhaps he got the hand sooner, during one of his encounters with Yvonne
That's what I figure.either Torchwood One grabbed it, or another group did (LINDA and Torchwood cannot be the only groups investigating the Doctor) and Yvonne came along and took it, with Jack taking it from their remains later.
@@medafan53 there's also UNIT
All Jack has to do is jump back/forward in time, stand under the sycorax ship and catch the hand. Not hard
He'd lost all access to his own form of time travel by this point though surely?? My theory is he was ofc employed by Torchwood but the London branch hadn't fallen and so must've acquired the Doctor's hand via their own means, Jack either is given it in the hopes of finding the Doctor (don't forget, Torchwood were obsessed with locating him, Jack may have conveyed in someone that of a similar description without outright naming the Doctor). What seems more plausible however is that Jack may have discovered it amongst other pieces of alien tech at the Canary Warf site after its demise
@@thenealdog5343 wasn’t there a statement made that he would have had to collect it almost immediately to stop it from vanishing?
As a Navy vet, it brought a smile hearing someone say boatswain instead of bos'n. Cheers....
One honourable mention would be that whole sequence of Clara inside the Dalek on Skaro. How the Dalek machine changes the words she’s says to exterminate, when we’ve other daleks in the past saying whatever they like; It makes no sense whatsoever. Oh and also that missy said they say exterminate to reload????
I love the Sarah Jane reference at 5:26
'the power of love' defeating the cybermen actually makes sense bc their whole thing is that they dont have emotions, giving them emotions, as weve seen in the 2006 episode, destroys them mentally. is it corny? yes. is it wrong? no
Maybe. But how come Cyber conversion now just means bunging a cyber suit on someome over their own clothes, when it's always involved surgery, brain removal and installation or other invasive procedures before?
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 yh,, that wasn't the bit I was defending 😅
@@gilgameshofuruk4060Yeah, I thought they’d go after that. That’s a really solid complaint. The idea of his paternal instinct kicking in way more emotions than just love… fear, anger, and all the other things a dad would feel if his kid was in danger… makes a lot of sense. Strapping a chonky man, or any man, straight into the suit? Don’t think so.
So all that is required to resist cyberconversion is having a kid?
Isn't the whole point of the cyberman is they take away all that stuff?
It went too far. Overcoming conversion with strong emotions is indeed possible - we saw that a bunch of times e.g. Miss Hartigan, Danny Pink, Yvonne Hartman among others - but it doesn't flat out undo the conversion, you still become a cyberman. It just keeps you from being taken over by the hivemind. Having James Corden stay human and zap them all because baby was too fairy tale even by 11's standards.
Ten's handy spare hand can probably be explained by Torchwood One picking it up, then later Jack taking it from them. He knows the Doctor will return to the Rift to refuel but he doesnt know when, so he could have convinced TW1 to let him have it
Just a weird linguistic FYI, "boatswain" is pronounced "boh-sun". It's even alternatively spelled "bosun" (or "bo's'n/bo'sun/bos'n). If ever you've seen a "chair" made of rope and a board being used to dangle a sailor over the side - maybe to clean the boat - or to transfer people or things between two boats, that's the "boatswain's chair".
#3 That looked like a steering function, which is kind of important for mobility. If you set the steering hard in a certain direction, you get a spin.
Come on!! Cards joke was funny and reference to Sarah jane was sweet
I don’t see an issue with the cue cards. I don’t think that’s the right name for them but the point is… the Doctor can regenerate into men, women, different skin colors, etc. So why couldn’t he regenerate Autistic? Because let me tell you, at least some of us out here really resonated with the idea of needing note cards for social interaction. Social phobia and other issues would also explain it, but he doesn’t seem to be dealing with social phobia. I don’t think they were flagging him as Autistic, mind you. His situation always seemed more like recovery from a traumatic event. Eventually he becomes more confident and able to function without the note cards.
The only explanation I have for the killing Cybermen with love thing is the Cybermen being overpowered by emotion which is something they don’t have. Idk
I thought 12's cue cards made sense because Clara wanted him to be more considerate of other's feelings so she probably made the cards for him.
What I don't think made sense was the 13th to 14th Doctor's regeneration because it was never explained how the clothes changed (in universe). I appreciate RTD giving a real life explanation, but his reasoning didn't make much more sense.
My head canon is that the clothes only change when they're too small for the new body.
I feel the need to point out, in regards to number 4, that considering there's a lot of mystery around Ruby's mother, it is possible that she stopped to watch him do all that before continuing to walk on. It's not as if he looked back to check what she was doing. (This does all assume there is actually something going on there and who she is actually does matter, which may not be the case)
Completely unrelated to Doctor Who:
Love the shirt Sean! I have the same one! Whenever I wear it, everyone always thinks it’s for the music genre Disco… Of course we both know it’s not. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one to have that shirt 😅
series finale cleans up the slowest walk ever problome which is fun
Okay, I can explain most of the mentioned things away with it being all wibbly wobbly, but why didn't the exit of the Ponds made to this list?
Like I still don't get it. If the Doctor couldn't pick them back up at this specific time because of this paradox thing going on, why weren't the Ponds able to travel up to Canada or something and he would reach them there?
Or since they weren't stuck in a different timeline/dimension he could just easily grab them a year later - this dude has a literal timemachine would've taken him like two minutes to fix this problem 🙃
and how did the Statue 🗽 of Liberty 🗽 move without Anyone in The City that Never Sleeps seeing it ? Not to mention she is copper rather than stone.
@@geoffroi-le-Hook not to mention "whose eyes?". If any living thing viewing them prevents them moving, that would include birds, mammals, amphibians, reptiles, insects, etc., and anything that "holds their image becomes one" would include anything looking at them. None of it makes any sense.
jack is easily explained. Torchwood was called in and they collected it and Jack got it, or after the call in Jack was brought in as well, hell maybe he was part of the attack on the ship. either way there was time to get there, torchwood might already had a lock on it.
Good video as always, keep it up 👍👍👍
Just gonna point out for the sea devils that the doctor has mention previously that the tardis would run away if it was ever underwater, so how was it eaten??? Also they could have just de-materialised and boom, they've escaped!
I can make sense of the Cybermen. That was a small group that got stranded at that mall and were just trying to create more as quick as possible. All they were doing is trying to get the suit on him. It’s not like typically where the Cybermen chop up the body at the same time. It was only a partial conversion. The idea that he got some papa-bear strength at the thought of not being there for his child isn’t that out of the question. We’ve seen Cybermen overide their programming before.
What we've never seen was someone reversing cybernetic implantation with absolutely no physical sign of where the implants went through the power of any emotion one could name. Turning someone into a Cyberman isn't just psychic control from an external source, it's sticking a lot of technology inside of the person through surgery. A Cyberman isn't a suit, it's the person's surgically altered body. Which also makes several other Cyberman scenes (for instance, the cyberman's head full of tentacles in the Underhenge) nonsencial, too. The modern series did a remarkably poor job with the Cybermen from post-David Tennant's run up until the end of Peter Capaldi's where they finally remembered what the Cybermen do to people.
Thank you, Thank you for mentioning the hand! This has puzzled me for years! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
6:50 The 10th doctor and his army of friends .. human weapons 🤣
i mean jack has a time vortex manipulator . Getting the hand is pretty easy once you remember about time travel
If forget that the manipulator does not work
I think Number two is the most egregious “make UNIT dumb” moment.
With the soldiers falling for the zygon thing, I felt the same at first. But thinking about it, even if you knew it was aliens taking the form of your mother or whatever else, you would still find that extremely psychologically hard. Even if the rational part of your brain was telling you it's a shapeshifter there would almost certainly be an instinct stopping you
I thought that the cue cards was hilarious. This regeneration of the Doctor was at times, insensitive. Clara wrote those as a reminder for him.
I still see people complain about Ruby's mother walking slow... but somebody literally landed behind her and started pulling down an airship with his bare hands and impaling it on a church spire. Why wouldn't she stop to watch before confused and making sure Ruby is still safe before carrying on?
6:43 Plenty humans drive the wrong way up a road or into rivers because their car's SatNav told them to. The controls Doctor-Donna messes with could be Dalek GPS or some sort of homing signal. I'd imagine those one-eyed octopus/lizard things would be reliant on electronic censors to orientate and locate themselves.
The Daleks having a spin button actually makes total sense. Think about how manuvreable those tanks must be. Consider how sluggish our real life tanks are. And Daleks can only shot in one direction. Of course they’d have a feature that allows them to spin 180 degrees in a hurry.
And also, spinning Daleks. Of course!
If you're looking for sense in Doctor Who, you're watching the wrong programme - that's part of the charm!
I always thought the rock was from the Doctor (or whoever wrote the message) to alert Sally to the Angels
Came here to say that! I thought it was The Doctor (or Martha) saving Sally from the Angel she had her back to by lobbing a rock. Which they knew to do because Sally wrote down what she'd uncovered under the wallpaper so The Doctor could write the message... wibbly wobbly...
I think we can imaginatively explain some of these
9-the power of love short circuiting the cyber men isn't that crazy, maybe it overloaded some emotional inhibitor that was being installed
6-maybe the government recovered the hand quickly then Torchwood took control of it (they are part of the government after all and they had a London branch at the time)
5- I'd bet Clara wrote all the cards her self and just gave them to the doctor to practice because he's always sticking is foot in his mouth (like a teacher would give her student)
3- it probably wasn't actually a button made specifically to spin, I assumed that it was some sort of overide control that took control of their movement and Donna had just reprogrammed it to spin them
In regards to the hand I assume that anything that falls off a massive alien spaceship would be being tracked and picked up by really any agency even if Torchwood wasn't around properly in London at that point
The Church on Ruby Road: Clearly the mom watched what The Doctor was up to, and when she saw that it turned out all right, continued to walk away.
What about that bit in An Unearthly Child when the two teachers walk into a police box and find it's bigger on the inside , and next thing you know they are in prehistoric times. That made no sense whatsoever.
The scarriest scene in all of new who was when that Cyber-Man turned into James Cordon.
Story Idea - Who vs Trek - Best reuse of sets and/or locations
The Daleks did not have a "spin button". Its explained in the episode how this is done, albeit quite quickly.
Jack has time travel he can probably teleport to the hand.
Of course the Daleks have a spin button. It's called "turning". They turn corners when moving around, just like anything else does.
Loved the Sea Devils but that episode had more plot gaps and questions than you could ever count.
Number 3 feels unfair - she’s using a computer interface to mess with their computers - rather than a bottom for 1 specific job
How they survive within the volcano is baffling as well
When it comes to jack finding the doctors hand, all he would really have to do is find out when it was chopped off then just use his vortex manipulator to travel to that moment and see where it landed then recover it. Time travel people
If forget that the manipulator does not work
2:30 so the angel basically threw itself because it’s literally a rock itself 😂
To be fair they’re only rock when someone’s looking at them
Maybe it was a weeping angel egg.
Ellie and Sean both need to make sure if there are headline words in an article they are converting to a video that they know how to pronounce them. I've seen this happen several times. "boat-swain" indeed.... It's not pronounced how it's spelled at all!
Graham is an all powerful being, thats how
...Ouch. When even _Chibnail_ admits he bungled an episode production, you know an episode was pants.
I imagine that as jack is the face of boe, and hes been around a bit, he was aware of the dr losing his hand and knew roughly where to go....as jack even, he could have got this info from rose, Jackie, Harriet or the dr... just cause it wasnt seen on screen, doesnt mean it didnt happen...
How is eight even a plothole? A creature is stopped in their tracks by just being looked at, and throwing a rock at the victim's head doesn't make sense? I'm surprised it hasn't been used more. If the weeping angels knock you out with a rock, then you can't look at them to freeze them.
I missed the cliffhanger.
Wait - thats classic series.
Maybe either time paused while he was rescuing Ruby, or she just stopped to watch
Maybe the spinning funkcion in daleks is for a calibration, for the first log in 😅😅😅
Doomsday
Yvonne Hartman underwent a cyber conversion in to a Cybermen & she used her emotions. Shooting Cybermen with a energy gun & said
"I did my duty, for Queen and country:
Captain Jack and the doctor's hand: The only thing I could find online in Canon or expanded universe material is that Captain Jack just found the Hand and recovered it.
Also During the Christmas Invasion The Sycorax sword also fell off.
Published on the BBC Website about a week before Series 2 of Doctor Who began was a web game -
Security Bot, also known as Help Mickey! A video game in which the player helps Mickey Smith by controlling a motorised robot to discover and destroy the Sycorax sword whilst discovering more artefacts and avoiding the security bots at the The Leamington Spa Lifeboat Museum said to be owned by the Torchwood Institute.
Nothing about the Sycorax body
though.
I can't believe I'm about to say this but... anything that doesn't make sense is a wibbly wobbly timey wimey thing 😭
Number 1: The entire show
Surely the numbers 1 and 2 are the time travel thing and regeneration. Oh and the police box.
It's things like the slow walk that make me even more concerned that RTD doesn't really have any clue what to do anymore. His writing used to be so much better.
Number 4 was explained in later episodes (the final 2 of the season)
I mean if we're going to talk about the Christmas special lets talk about how an entire goblin pirate ship landed on a church with literally nobody inside noticing and the building sustaining no damage at all.
,,Rubys mom" coulve watched the doctor rescuing Ruby and after that continued walking away
I think the doctors hand probably ended up in the hands of torchwood 1 and Jack stole it from them
I can excuse some of the problems with legends of the sea devils cause it was made during the pandemic and didn’t have the luxury of providing proper post production on it but that doesn’t mean it’s a totally good special either
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Is it weird to me that some of these make sense? The cybermen were overcome by the overwhelming emotion flooding craig cos the cybermen try to remove all emotion, which they couldnt. My guess is the old torchwood found the doctors hand maybe being told about the events by harriet jones and swnt them searching? And yeah a couple others too
Yep - we know that Torchwood were operating at the time of the Christmas Invasion as they're mentioned in the episode, so you'd imagine that they'd be on clean-up duty afterwards, recovered the hand, etc.
Jack could have requisitioned it from Torchwood 1. Presumably, he'd have had high enough clearance to know about it.
@arch1017 my thoughts exactly, he said he took over after doomsday so that's my guess
I could argue that Dalek's spinning could make sense, as they're basically tanks. If a Dalek died but the shell was still functional, you could have someone activate it from the control ship to use it like a drone. Them spinning is just like holding down the joystick for too long.
@@idk_outcast_6205 Yeah, if Ianto could smuggle out a full Cyberwoman and all the equipment keeping her alive, in the wake of Doomsday, then it's not a huge stretch to think Jack could have done the same with the Doctor's (significantly smaller) hand.
@theavenger2378 yes that's another one I see a sensible solution too, Donna hacking into the control systems of them and then being able to maneuver them
Oh you see I didn't realise it was the angel that threw the rock I had always assumed that the doctor had thrown it but didn't want to interfere in the course of events. I figured that after he got the file he popped back through the brick and off they went
here's a massive plot hole. So when Donna does the whole "Turn Left" creating an alternate timeline where the Doctor dies before meeting Martha, EVERYTHING he did with her is undone right? So episode 3 the Shakespeare Code when they save Earth from the Karianites (witches) releasing their army to rule the world, he never stopped them meaning in Turn Left, they should be everywhere. We see the Titanic crash because he wasnt there to stop it. Torchwood kill themselves to stop the Sontaren's from gassing earth. And hell, since it time jumps over a year, where was The Master and the Sphere aliens? Since, at that point in time, he was PM and preparing to kill the POTUS and nuke the universe.
I’m sure it was explained how jack came to get the doctors cut off hand ???
The cue cards make perfect sense. The 12th Doctor has 0 interpersonal skills, he's always blunt and completely oblivious to the emotions of others, which often leads to him saying things without thinking about the impact on other people. Clara was trying to fix this problem with the cue cards. Come on WhoCulture, do better.
the spin function isnt called spin. THE DALEKS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TURN DONT THEY and she very clearly just held down their turn left button i dont understand how its hard to understand she even made them turn the other way by turning the dial THE OTHER WAY!!
Cyber-conversion (is supposed to be) a surgical process. I remember when I undid my appendectomy with the power of love! /s
Great video, really enjoyed this one! Thanks Sean and Who Culture! 😊😊
Sean, boatswain is pronounced bosun. A lot of Dr Who doesn't make sense anymore. Remember that dalek made from scrap? Easy to destroy with an electronic magnet 🧲.
It's not Who you know but what you know.
I thought the sea devils base was in the monster or something like that
I will admit that love defeating the Cybermen was a letdown but I still love this episode because it's set in my home city of Colchester which was kinda cool for me😊
I’m surprised there’s not more than 10
All 10 are in NuWho. When I think of the senselessness pervading the original, the modern material cannot compare. But, you didn't say "TOP 10..."
Using the power of love makes 100% sense. What's the Cybermens biggest weakness? EMOTIONS! What's the most powerful emotion? LOVE! Come on WhoCulture, do better.
Other than the cue cards, sure they make no sense but I love them anyway (legend of the sea devils not as much though)
With number 9 didn’t they have to cut up the body and put the organs in a metallic body not just put a suit on someone in the past?
never had a problem with the hand thing. Even if it falls onto London, both UNIT and Torchwood have a base, and you know they were both watching the Doctor like a hawk
I thought boatswain was pronounced bo's'n