Doctor Who: 10 Things That STILL Don't Make Sense
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Off subject but I watched World War Z the day I found out Peter Capaldi was going to be the next Doctor Who and he was credited at the end of that film as "Who Doctor"
I always assumed that Eccleston's Doctor either never saw himself, or he was literally fresh off of a regeneration and the Clive footage came later, because Wibbly Wobbly.
It can also now be explained with a bigeneration, 9 is out there somewhere, doing this for the first time.
What doesnt make sense is in all of Clives research, he never saw other versions of the Doctor. I always assumed they were trying to say this Doctor was the first, but even then, you'd still get multiple Doctors. Just because he's in the "current" incarnation, doesnt mean future ones wont exist.
When will we learn about the Doctor Moon incarnation?
What's going on with the Dream Lord?
How about the Valeyard?
Who said Clara wasn't already a fully qualified teacher when she was working as a nanny? A short term job looking after a couple of kids before taking up her first teaching post doesn't sound like a wild inconsistency to me.
Clara said herself she was going to travel according to the 101 places to see book she has, and stayed with the family who's mother died so she repaid the favour by looking after those annoying kids
I just presumed that she was working as a nanny to fund her teacher training and to have a place to stay too. As to the travel, loads of people say they want to travel somewhere, many don't 😊
If I'm not mistaken, she was only working a nanny because Angie & Artie's mom died unexpectedly while she was staying with them (they were family friends) and she felt obligated to their dad to help him out for a while.
I think the bigger plothole here is the unresolved cliffhanger from Name of the Doctor. But I think the less we think about the logic of that episode the better
@@christophersheets5452 Yeah, how they got out of the Doctor's timestream is certainly a bigger question than how Clara became a teacher. Hell, I became one simply for having a college degree and being a native English speaker (albeit for teaching English as a second language) so sometimes it takes not that long at all to get an in at a school especially if they have vacant positiopns that need to be filled quickly.
I don't get the problem with 9 seeing himself for the first time and "already" having been loads of places.
No he hasn't. That will be his future ...
The same would be asking 10 why he doesn't remember giving Martha his tie, even though we saw it happen already.
It's a time thing. I love it.
Yeah like Liz 1 being mad at 10 at some point, even though he doesn’t know why yet, he will eventually. We even found out when 10 returns during 11s era that he married her (and then obviously skips town like always)
Yep that was my thoughts already those things are going to happen in his future
I was like "He's a time traveler for crying out loud!" It's like Riversong knowing the Doctor in reverse. Timey Wimey and all that stuff.
That would make sense, if there were a lot of actual time for that. Since he regenerates literally in the same series. Yes ofc there are spots where there could be time skips, but going on so many adventures without his companion at some point within the series just seems unlikely
With 10 the master was just aging his cells with his regeneration suspended. 11 aged naturally and with the wear and tear of fighting in a war for 900 years it’s understandable his body begins to fail earlier in its potential life cycle
Good explanation. It was working in my mind, in that direction. Glad you nailed it.
Yeah. I was thinking that comparing those two incidents wasn't a thing. So far, half this list is very easily explained.
I always expected it has something to do with the rift giving off gallifreyan air, which maybe slows timelords aging process. or the timelords maybe even giving tiny bits of energy off to keep the rift open.
I always thought it was because it was supposed to be his last regeneration. Like the regeneration energy kept 10 from dying of old age, but since 11 explain he had no more regenerations left he was able to die from old age
Clara went to university, she was gonna take a year and travel the world but then her friend died so she stayed to look after the kids. She could have studied to become a teacher, The Doctor obviously helped her get the job at coal hill school since Ian is on the school board.
But the thing is she never stated once she was in college or anything that would’ve made her being a teacher in the anniversary special going forward make sense let alone being what seems like an established teacher like some time had passed since Trenzalore happened but never mentioned and it feels like it was done just to have the school from an unearthly child in the anniversary special when they could have just as well had like a brief scene of something like Ian retiring as the school’s principal or something since it doesn’t really play a major role in the anniversary special
@kevin10001 1. Of course they did it so they could show the school again it was the 50th anniversary...
2. Ian was the chairman of governors, not the Headmaster
3. Just because she is never shown to do something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
4. They did a comic in 2015/2016 that says that after jumping in to the doctors time stream she left the tardis and became a teacher and moved to coal Hill, 6 months later she regretted leaving the tardis
In regards to the magpie tech, the tardis "regenerates" for lack of a better word when the doctor keep destroying it. Or when it feels like doing so.
It dose also have a couscousness. So it regards to brand deals no, but its really not to hard to believe it just thaught it be funny to have magpie tech. Or a different explanation.
Clara's Mother died. Also if you want to call me a nerd ...you've picked one heck of a comments section to square up to me in.
@@ZBlade952 but the comics aren’t show cannon since a lot of fans don’t read or listen to the expanded meadow stuff making it expanded universe cannon that has no barrings to the show it’s still a plot hole for the show
Clara being a teacher isn’t the issue it’s that she’s completely fine mentally and physically after jumping into the time stream of an immortal alien
My thought was always that Clara as a teacher was a "variant" of herself after she entered the time stream, just like all her other versions. And none of them had any physical or mental issues (aside apparently some memory loss in Asylum of the Daleks and the Snowmen for some reason)
@@MrRolord that would explain why she's so different when she's with 12 (apart from the last specials with 11)
The thing with 9 is that he went back in time to persuade Rose to join him, hence why the moment he came back and said it was a time machine she ran straight to him.
Spot on.
I was nearly 50 before I noticed how big my nose is and petite is not a word I'd use to describe my hooter.
I was thinking that he did his adventures while she slept but what if all those newsclipping were from between the disappearing and reappearing.
Also there is at least one official story that plays in that scene
Always thought,they marked the encounters with the Silence in their faces when they saw them behind themselves in mirrors...
My theory for the Pting in prison is that the blue lights around the cell is the same energy that Yaz and Ronan used to temporarily hold back the Pting in the Tsuranga Conundrum.
Yeah, it was clearly a "look how impossible it is to escape this prison, even the impossible to contain Pting is trapped."
@@tjet34and also "you can't eat the walls! Believe me, I tried!"
@@tjet34 Yes, this!! That was the whole point. How does one actually trap a Silence, or the Doctor, or a Pting? We don't need to know the technicalities of how these incredible creatures are actually being held. What it does is it shows us that this prison really is inescapable. If it can hold the impossible-to-imprison Pting, then how does a mere Timelord stand a chance?
@@heatherfyffe3618 I'd like to mention you didn't even mention the angel... LITERAL STONE.. half the time atleast.
The angels were captured in 2thC New York ;)
Records of the 9th doctor could have been his future self
Yes. Humans sleep a lot more than time lords. Rose may have asked him about. Then he would have to do it.
My theory is that he travels just at the end of Rose. Rose rejects travelling, he goes about the universe, saving people and running a lot, and then comes back, remembering that he never mentioned it was a time machine.
@@TrakeniteAdventuress there's a book (audio?) with this exact premise.
@@TrakeniteAdventuress
That's a variant of a similar theory about the fourth doctor explaining his apparent long history of travelling alone as the 4th Doctor (particularly his previous visit to the planet in The Face of Evil); he did it all when he pops off in the TARDIS and promptly returns at the end of "Robot".
Exactly..... Good lord, this channel. It's wibbly, wobbly, timey, wimmy.
In regards to the Master’s Dalek Plan, don’t conveniently forget that the Master has consistently had overly convoluted schemes *to get the Doctor’s attention*. That’s it, they just like causing trouble, who cares if it makes sense. It’s the most consistent character trait for them.
The Master is the definition of Chaotic Evil.
That's true but that whole "ima become the doctor" thing makes literally no sense. The Russia and getting caught by unit stuff is typical master shenanigans but he doesn't become the doctor he just... I dunno something something regeneration energy and is now wearing her clothes and can use her tardis whilst she stays in a glass jar?
The Master is always the biggest show off in the who-niverse
@@Cheesusful I feel like Jodie's episodes will become like the Star Wars sequels or the Eragon movie, where the majority of the fandom pretends it doesn't exist because of how bad it is.
@@justinharvey7398 okay? that might be hard considering the latest episodes
Number 8 doesn't necessarily need to be a plot hole. After all, the Doctor does have a time machine. So he could still just have regenerated in that episode and at the same time there could still already be photos and records of him with this face from the past. Who says, that those version of him are in his past. So those photos and records could be of an older him who travelled to before he regenerated into the new face ;)
timey-wimey stuff.
Or the fact that the doctors dont allways do the most human thing. For us should we get hurt we look at the wound, if we regenerated we probably would immediately look at our new face.
I feel its entirely possible that he just didnt think to check himself out before going on adventures and just kinda got carried away for how ever long.
And again timie whimie.
He could have had all those photos taken in less then an hour depending on how long he stayed at each one.
Or yeah future 9.
Yes. It is exceptionally weird that this channel dedicated to Doctor Who forgot about *time travel.*
@@pyrite-py8eh Or even a past face, we now know the Doctor returns to old favourites, it could be a pre mind wipe doctor, long before Hartnell's.....
I read a theory somewhere that in the moments for rose at the end of Rose the doctor actually traveled on their own for a while, so that could explain the photographs as well
Do you want a thing in Doctor Who to make sense? The series that explained that "from a non-linear non-subjective point of view it is more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff" (one of the best ways to explain that Doctor Who doesn't care in the least for consistent explanations). For any other sci-fi series I would agree and demand consistency, but Doctor Who never takes itself so seriously that we need that and it show it all the time: "He is and alien? But he has an accent from the north. Well they have a north on his planet too".
Accept Doctor Who for it is: a very cool, funny fantasy TV series that we cherish since our childhood, that stretch consistency as most as it can when it is needed for the plot...or...this is what I want you to think...
3:14
I always thought that it was 9 but in the future. It’s a new face but all the photos that they had are future adventures he had. Adventures he had without rose and one’s that we dont see on screen.
exactly!
Exactly! He's a time traveler, his timeline isn't always linear.
The section A Time Machine That Needs Time makes perfect sense. The TARDIS only appears to people outside the TARDIS to take a few second to get from one place to another. But the TARDIS travels through the time vortex. The TARDIS could dematerialise outside Donna's house at 12pm and rematerialise next to it at 11am the same day making it look like the TARDIS doubled to Wilf. The TARDIS travelled in the time vortex long enough for River to be concieved. It has ALWAYS taken the TARDIS time to get to a place but when you can travel through time it looks to people experiencing time linearly that it takes way less time than it actually does. They're not just travelling through space, they're travelling though time.
For 9 it was stated i think in a book that he was so ashamed of what he done in the war that he couldn't look at his face and he had some adventures before finally deciding to look at the mirror
I think in rose it also said that weeks had passed for the doctor between the different times that rose met the doctor in the episode.
I think it also said that he smashed every mirror in the Tardis
apparently he would even destroy mirrors before he could even look in them lol
He's also a time traveler, perhaps for him some of those adventures had not happened yet.
I always assumed that the trips to Dallas 1963 and others just hadn’t happened yet.
There's really no problem with nanny/teacher Clara. Teachers can take different jobs between placements, so she could have been working as a nanny until she landed a suitable teaching job.
She was also only working as a nanny because the kids' mum died while she was staying with them. Having a trained teacher as a nanny makes perfect sense to me.
My high school chemistry teacher also coached golf and had a floor tiling business in the summer. Many people are capable of doing many things. Imagine that.
The problem is that there is no mention of her being in college/university or at least having a teaching degree the whole Clara is a teacher now out of the blue feels more like just a way to get the school from the pilot an unearthly child into a anniversary special and it’s a Clara plot hole I bring up in Clara discussions can it lends credibility to the fact they didn’t know what to do with her and just made her fit the episodes as they came up
@@kevin10001 I don't think we need to be told that character X has a degree in Y. And, as has been said, it's not remotely a stretch to believe that a teacher (of children) might once have been a nanny (of children).
9 could have done those things AFTER meeting Rose, time travel and all.
Clara was already a teacher, or qualified to be, being a nanny as a favor. Preparing to travel later. No idea how she got back, doesn't seem important though.
The later Masters (and to a lesser extent Missy) love messing with the Doctor using grand plans and theatrics, Joker-style. They don't have to make perfect sense. Same with his aging device, it's all for show.
Either the Doctor (or a companion) added parts, or the TARDIS can copy exiting tech, especially after changing the "wallpaper".
Maybe they're Davros' cups, and we don't really know what's in them.
You should listen to the big finish i they done some 9th doctor adventures when he on his own before Rose he even meet the Brig
I could have easily been before he met Rose. How often do you see a mirror during an adventure in the past?
Yeah, an insane evil villian doing insane things isn't a plot hole.
Magpie was mostly likely branded onto to things due to the the TARDIS's psychic link with The Doctor.
1, cup and tea bag in his time lord pockets, he used the Dalek blasts to boil the water
Of course! The Doctor can pull practically anything out of their pockets so that makes sense. Good logic on how he got his tea warmed up, only he would show up the Daleks by having their weapons warm up his drink! Just his way of sticking his thumb in their eyestalks to show he's always 10 steps ahead of them! 😂👍
#8 is very simple if you are familiar with "Blink." Prssumably, at some point during the 9th's adventures that we see, he has some we don't see. Time machine. Also, perhaps a future incarnation revisits that face.
Ok so I have a theory about number 8. At the end of Rose, we see the Doctor leave Rose behind only to come right back and say "Did I mention it travels in time too?" From our point of view this happens instantaneously, but we don't know how long the Doctor was gone for. So the images that Clive references could've take place then. This is backed up in Day of the Doctor when the War Doctor says he is 800 years old. At the end of Day of the Doctor he regenerates into the 9th and sees his face for the first time in Rose's mirror. In Aliens of London, the 9th Doctor says he is 903. so 103 years passes for him before he decided to come back and try to convince Rose one more time.
It's possible that Rose didn't want to come so the Doctor explicitly was in the place to get those photos knowing eventually Clive would have them for Rose to see. Essentially the Doctor created a small scale paradox. I do find that teh Doctor can sometimes be a bit manipulative and I think this was one of those times subconciously changing Rose's mind after she initially said No to coming.
9th Doctor: Who said only a second passed from the Doctor's perspective between telling Rose that the TARDIS could travel through all of space, and returning to tell her that it also can travel through time? I like to think that the Doctor had several adventures in that span of time, and returned to give Rose a second chance. This would also explain returning from the next adventure a year late, as the Doctor probably forgot to account for that year of journeys spent without Rose when calculating the date and time on which to return her.
#5 maybe being the last incarnation of the 12 original regenerations, the regeneration mechanism gives timelords really long lifespan as it will be their last one.
I like that.
Not to mention that ARTIFICIAL aging might have different effects than aging naturally.
For #5 I’m pretty sure The Master has a line “what if I suspend your capacity to regenerate” before transforming The Doctor for the second time. As I understand it thats what a Time Lord would look like if they couldn’t regenerate when they hit old age.
I mean 11 couldn't regenerate either because he had none left
Also, humans also age different ways.. Not every 40 yo looks the same
6:51 I took it to mean that FORCED time has a completely different affect on Time Lords than NORMAL time without the protection of the TARDIS... made sense in my head.. ;)
I don´t know how to explain it in a science-y way, but in my head the physical age of the body, and the way the doctor naturally ages are different.
When the Master force-ages him, it basically shows what his body would look like at +100 years, without any timelord stuff.
But when he ages "naturally", I´d say he ages at 1/10th of the regular time. So his *body* would still be around that +100 years or so, but it´d take him 1000 years to get there.
(This idea is mostly taken from DnD, where Druids physically age only 1 year for every 10 years they lived.)
Does the tardis slow the aging of the occupants? And now being the timeless child, realizes that it's only the galifreyan natives that were given regeneration are restricted to 13 incarnations or risk madness as they are not truly his people. Cough cough good blunt
My theory for the inconsistent aging is that every regeneration biologically rewrites the process because its literally said in universe that it rewrites everything 🧬🫀🫀
-Adam
Yeah I always assumed that when the Master aged the doctor he aged him 100 years to what his bodys natural way of aging would be, but when 11 was aging it was slower because the doctor is basically a god and can kind of do whatever?
Also when The Master did it to The Doctor it was unnatural and forced, as opposed to when he aged normally.
I always assumed the Master aged him like a human, given the Doctor's love for them. The Gollum is an unnaturally aged human kept alive out of spite.
Adam said that? Whoa...
@@BigFunnyGiant yea, it could have even been side effects given its an unnatural form of ageing.
8, simple answer, all the pictures have yet to happen for the doctor
The Magpie Electronics stuff might be the Doctor's additions to the TARDIS. Yes, TARDISy are grown, but 12th refurbished 11th's Desktop Theme (also known as Toyota) with bookcases, a black chalkboard and other stuff. Even changed lighting. So why not adding some stuff here and there? Plus the TARDIS is telepathically linked to the Doctor, she could use brands, because the Doctor came into contact with them. The Ghost Monument (yep, I'm gonna keep calling 13th Doctor's TARDIS by that name) even grew freaking Stenza crystals for her, because the Doctor made her Swiss Army Sonic with Sheffield steel and confiscated Stenza technology. Because they share a telepathic link and the Doctor loves her new sonic, the Ghost Monument adapted to it by creating a Crystaline theme from the same material, used in its creation. Simple as that.
Another cool thing is that the Magpie Electronics sticker in Smith's TARDIS proves the TARDIS isn't an AI artbot. Why? Well, whenever the TARDIS lands it scans around for several miles to find something to turn into before it inevitably "turns into" a police call box. That means it "sees" everything, including things it couldn't visibly see . . . but it scans down to a molecular level. So when it changed is "desktop" for Smith Doctor it went for an eclectic design, and thought, "What does my Doctor like? Oh, yes, London. We're always going to London." So it made a console room built out of artifacts from all over London's space and time, including fancy shop displays, electronics, pinball machines, and so on.
Have you ever looked at a collection of AI-generated art for imaginary sci-fi movies? All the signs are gibberish because the AI art program doesn't know that they mean anything. Well, the TARDIS does understand signs -- not only does it translate languages, it actually has a sign! -- so it bothered to replicate the Magpie Electronics branding on all the items it copied from that source. The TARDIS: it understands us . . . and gives credit to the original creator when it makes fair use.
Absolutely! The Doctor would want to trick out the TARDIS! The old girl can't be allowed to look her age. Didn't the writer ever watch Top Gear?
@@topcat1255 Are you implying that the Doctor stole the TARDIS by removing and inverting the hazard warning light switch? TARDIS SRi -- easy to steal, but it still looks good in a police box wrap!
@@SingularityOrbit I'm merely wondering why, with all of time and space to meander around, he (or she) never hung a pair of fuzzy dice from somewhere on the console.
I assumed that there is a room somewhere full of gadgets that this version of the TARDIS decided to use in it's console design. In the same way the TARDIS moved the library into the console room for 12. (And presumably moved the swimming pool somewhere else)
My thoughts about the Magpie items in the Tardis is that Eleven himself added them or the Tardis added them For Eleven because he'd like them so much, as they really Are very him. After all he has a corded phone and an answer phone (Six in Big Finish also), a typewriter.... Just so perfectly Eleven 😊
Honestly, this makes sense. I like to think despite all the wire stuff, the Doctor has a soft spot for Magpie's electricals.
I was baffled when she said it makes no sense, at the end of the day, the doctor is known to hook things up to the TARDIS, it's still a machine of sorts, mostly. With wires and gizmos. But yeah I do agree with you
I really don't get why people are so weird about 12s cup of tea. I mean it's just a joke and if you want an in universe explanation we see that 12 can keep a full glass of water in his pockets without it spilling in that superman episode so he probably did the same with the tea.
#9 - the Matrix records a lot of things (see the evidence presented in "Trial of a Time Lord") and I guess advanced races would be able to hack it. As the Master showed the Keeper of the Matrix, it isn't all that secure
As Rose obviously isn't in any of the pictures that Clive shows her (I guess she could've been there, wibbly wobbly timey wimey) I think 9 went to all those events in between the time where he first asks Rose to travel with him and the time where the TARDIS rematerializes a minute later and the doctor says "Did I mention it also travels in time?". I think Big Finish might've made this canon in some way, but i'm not completely sure - it remains my headcanon though.
It doesn't really make sense to ask if Eccelston was new. He could have done all of that later, which would mean Rose was actually WITH him when those things happened (like being on the titanic). What IS weird is that Clive talks to her about the doctor isn't going on about Matt Smith or something. The fact that he's going on about the guy the doctor just became is weird.
It makes perfect sense. Clive points out, that the Doctor throughout historical eevents is always the same person. Either immortal, or a time traveler. So seeing other regenerations (like 11th doing stuff to "wave at the Ponds") just might not have gotten HIS attention. He wasn't looking for a different guy doing stuff through historical events, he was looking for that specific guy. Same guy at Kennedy's assasination, same face on the Titanic, same face here and there.
Also Matt Smith's Doctor wasn't yet in the making, so couldn't use his face, or anyone else's.
I mean to be fair they'd just rebooted and probably didn't want to call up all the classic cast to photoshop into historical photos, so...
@@ari54x no, fair. But the whole idea of vids like this is being really nit picky
@Croftice1 I've re-read the shit out if this and I'm really, really unclear on if I agree with you or not.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey
@@Croftice1That's the doyalist explaination, but there isn't a watsonian one, an unfortunate side effect of what Doctor Who is.
It should be noted thatin the Target Novelisation of Rose, published in 2018, Clive shows Rose pictures of all 13 numbered Doctors at the time, as well as two potential Doctors we haven't seen.
"angry little minion that killed roy kent". dude i love that show. that was funny af
Clara wasn't exactly a nanny, though. She stopped by a friend's house for a visit before she set off on travels and the friend died, so she stayed on to help take care of the friend's kids. It's entirely believable that she was taking a year off for travel after graduating before taking a full-time teaching position when her friend died, getting her stuck in the "nanny " position for a while.
I know the tea bit is odd but "Admit it, you have all had this exact nightmare, so anyone for Dodgems?" Will always be my favourite Capaldi moment.
THe tea bit makes perfect sense, his pockets are bigger on the inside, he could have pulled out the cup and filled it from a thermos whilst they were blasting him.
It was my understanding that in that brief period of time when 9 left Rose behind before returning to say "It also travels in time" is when he went to be in those pictures, as a sort of proof to Rose, because he knew that she would see those images.
It's a time travel show.
Davos on a few occasions explains the daleks have built in fail safes to stop them from being able to harm him, and I always remembered that being stated in the episode when the doctor steals the chair.
With number 9, an explanation for the footage can be found in the 1965 serial, the chase. At the beginning, it show the doctor repairing a time-space visualiser (given to him in the previous episode, the space museum)which can show the viewer any moment in time and space. It works by converting light energy into electrical impulses, allowing the viewer to watch anything. Perhaps the cybermen or the atraxi used the same system.
Ok am i the only 1 who doesnt think any of these are plot holes 🤔🤷♀️🤷♀️ could explain why for all these things 🤔 🤷♀️
Why did they draw on their own faces when they had space left on their arms and hands? It bugged me the whole episode!!!!
Have they really, explicitly said that the TARDIS travels 'instantly' from place to place? They might have played fast and loose a bit with how long travel takes when they're chatting inside, but I think they've always done that even in the older series. Besides, these days the opening credits usually show the TARDIS travelling through a wormhole/timestream, which has to take some time to do in itself, even if it's a shortcut between moments and places.
Idk what happened in that episode, but if both locations were on earth the doctor might not have even gone into the time stream and just flew there instead, also if they did go through the timestream just because it took 4 minutes to get there from their perspective doesn't mean it wasn't instant from an outside perspective, but I would have to watch the episode to know more context
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There is that, too.
The Saxon Master made it so all the Doctor's "inside" age turned into "outside" age. Timelords wouldn't normally shrivel up like that
How could the ninth Doctor have been in all of those places if he's just seeing his ears for the first time? Have you forgotten that he's a time traveler? He went to all of those places and times after the first episode.
Actually, it is suggested that, between his encounters with Rose, the Doctor was spending weeks on other adventures, not to mention between the failed and sucessful attempts to recruit Rose.
The tally marks get even funnier when you realise they were probably drawn sucessively. Meaning it could have just been the same single Silence forgotten and re-spotted four hundred times.
Eleven has Paul Rudd genes 😅
Great vid Ellie! Never leave.
As for 11 not looking Gollum like after a hundred plus years, The Doctor lies and The Master probably does too. Maybe The Master wasn't truthful when he said The Doctor was aged 100 years. 10 could have been much older.
Now my memory may not be great since I haven't watched the eps in a long time,but what happened to the kids Clara was caring for after" Nightmare in Silver"? I don't remember any mention of them after that.
The Master's plan in the "Power of the Doctor" not making sense could be down to his Joker level insanity.
Magpie technology in 11s Tardis may not function like the equipment it appears to be. It's probably Tardis technology in the guise of old tech.
For #4, the TARDIS crash-landed in the Ponds’ shed, & she rebuilt herself by cannibalizing several of the items in that shed, such as the Magpie Tech telephone.
10 aging vs 11 aging doesn't feel like a mistake or anything. With 10, what the Master was doing to him was basically: Here's what it would be like if you physically aged to 900 but you can't die and can't regenerate. Just stuck feeling the weight of all those years but unable to die. It was an unnatural thing that the Master inflicted upon the Doctor, while 11 aging was natural.
9 hadn't done the things in the records yet from his perspective. Its a show about time travel for crying out loud.
I'm surprised they seemed to have such difficulty with that. It's an obvious one.
During Ten's era, the Doctor explains that the presence of the Tardis translates any alien language into English and vice versa (and English into Punjabi for Graham, Yaz and Ryan). That's why the written signs in ancient Pompeii appear to be in English for Donna, and everyone gradually gets to understand the invaders in The Christmas Invasion. But in that case, how did everyone understand "Tim Shaw" in the Thirteenth Doctor's first story, when her Tardis was missing? Did he speak fluent English?
the doctor's pockets are canonically bigger on the inside and we have seen him pull full cups of tea out of them before.
What makes less sense than Clara becoming a teacher is fans not remembering that we know she is a university graduate and it is perfectly reasonable that this degree was English, or even a PGCE. She is 26 when she meets the Doctor after all, and approximately 27 when we meet the two again in Day of the Doctor.
“Impenetrable walls”
*Thinks about Titanic in space crashing into Tardis scene*
It seems you're not aware that Doctor Who has time travel in it. Clive's sighting of the Doctor could have been in the Doctor's future.
Number 8 is easy to explain. While in the past in relation to the universe, it is an older Doctor that went there, so in his future. Like how the first time the Doctor met River Song was the last time she saw him.
I love that you call him Roy Kent
3:57 - That callout of the heart to heart was brilliant lol. I had that exact thought when watching the episode, especially since I knew it would be Ryan's last.
12 got milk for his tea in the same place that Clara got the milk for the soufflé.
#8 Is fairly easily explained: The guy who looked up and found the stock footage of 9 was looking at things that 9 hadn't done yet but would do soon. This doesn't explain why he has no footage of Rose or other compantions in these shots, but perhaps these are just times when the compantions where elsewhere.
For 12, he used his sonic specs and the dalek weapon energy to make a cup of tea.
Discovered this channel recently and it's become absolutely one of my favorites
Thanks to this channel I imagined what it would be like if Amy Pond had simply written "LOTS! RUN!!" on her face instead of all the tally marks and I nearly fell out of my chair laughing
I had *_just_* come to terms with accepting the Silence for what they are without questioning them.
*Dammit, Ellie!*
The face marks could be a way for reminding others of the Silence, since you look more at others faces than your own hands during a conversation.
The aging one makes sense with one key word with the master and 10. 'Forced aging'. The master aged the doctors body, not made him older himself. It does seem apparent that time lords can control their aging
I think the episode that the master regenerates into the doctor is not as lose ended as you think. If you delve into it a bit deeper you would remember that every timlord bar the doctor has a limit of 12 regenerations, and with the master knowing this he regenerates himself into her body to lose that cap of 12 as her being the timeless child has no cap on regenerations that we know about, i mean come on were nearly on number 14!!
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Doctor takes his tea, as he does in the story Shada, when the professor asks him if he wants one lump or two, then asks if he wants sugar!
4:08 Well that's quite easy to explain, the TARDIS takes longer because The Doctor needs her to.
For 9....he's a time traveler.... The ninth doctor that we see on the newspaper in ep 1 is the future ninth doctor.... It's a timeywimey thing, just like in blink.
The doctor teleports by using the energy of the dalek's blast, grabs a cup of tea from somewhere and he teleports back.
Tbf the master does specify that he was making it so you could "see" the doctors age. So was different to matts which was natural aging
I don’t usually comment on this kind of thing but I really enjoy your narration (for lack of a better word) Ellie :) love the sass, the subtle comedic delivery, even the sharpness of your voice :) (I typically struggle to stay engaged) great stuff 👍
I feel like for the Clive photo's for the 9th doctor those are the 9th doctor later on so his future that he hasn't lived yet when the episode Rose happened.
Number 8 isn’t a problem. He leaves at the end of the first episode and (to us) Instantly comes back. But from The Doctor’s perspective he could have bounced around history for 100s of years then come right back to the moment he left.
Hi Ellie! You said it doesn’t make sense that Clive has a drawing of the ninth Doctor when in that episode we see that the Doctor seems to have only just transformed into the ninth. Are we forgetting that the Doctor is a time traveller? It just means that the drawing was made sometime in the Doctor’s future but sometime in Clive’s linear past.
Forget 1st, I'm 5th! I shall we're a vegetable from now on!
This was very interesting - and I love videos like this haha
For number 4 I can think of the reason for magpie technology, since doctor and the tardis have a symbiotic link, it is possible that thought of magpie comes from his own mind and tardis built it.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but the clips of each Doctor in "The Day of The Doctor" isn't found footage, it's each Doctor communicating with each other and Gallifrey - they just used old clips for the scene, but it was supposed to all be happening at that moment, it wasn't clips of each Doctor, it *was* each Doctor.
With regards to the Eccleston face. He is a time traveler. It was his first time seeing his face in HIS timeline but then goes back through the GLOBAL timeline to appear at important events for plot reasons.
Nice video! I was really hoping that the Weeping Angels would be on the list (right alongside The Silence). Both are cool ideas for antagonists, as long as you don't think too hard about the "ins and outs" of their existence. Oh, well 🙂
The ‘where did he get the tea’ bit doesn’t offend me. Especially since later on that season he pulls a glass of water out his pocket in doctor Mysterio. His pockets are bigger on the inside after all
Those pictures in the past could be of future adventures 9 was going to have. It's time travel.
10. P'Ting was thought to be impossible to imprison when The Doctor first encountered it. As of the second appearance, either developed a specific technology to house it, or someone else in the universe was revealed to have anti-P'Ting safeguards for the prison to implement. It's enough of a threat for many civilisations to collaborate on.
9. Mostly this is going to be a Rule of Cool where yeah they just reuse old footage and don't explain it. They *could* explain it either by suggesting The Doctor/their companions had their memories extracted/minds scanned at some point in order to establish a database, or you could also say some kind of entity (like Marvel's The Watcher) or technology (like the Teselecta) are spectating key moments in The Doctor's timeline for any number of reasons, with their observations being highly valued by The Doctor's enemies (maybe even shared around to maintain an up to date database on The Doctor's appearances/capabilities/etc).
8. Easy. Nine goes off at some point after Rose to photobomb historical pictures/old timey family photos. He could even be doing what Tennant later did with Martha and the tie, purposefully showing himself up in pictures he knows Rose would see in her investigation in order to bootstrap their meeting, *and* lay the groundwork for convincing her to join him by leaving, going back in time to set this all up, then returning to remind her "did I mention it can also travel in time?".
7. This seems like way more of a behind the scenes excuse for The Doctor to *have* to talk to Ryan, yeah. You could explain it away as either The Doctor purposefully causing a delay, the TARDIS instinctively extending the travel time for an important conversation to take place, or the exact route they're taking through the time vortex being more hazardous/"wibbly wobbly" for that exact journey.
6. Clara very much could be a teacher even prior to becoming a nanny. Feels bad for the family losing the mother figure, helps look after the kids in after school club/etc as the dad is a wreck for a while, bonds with them enough to accept a caregiver role in the household, pausing her teaching role in the meantime. She helps the husband and kids improve their lives to the point where she's not needed, and (after having a traumatic experience in The Doctor's time streaming) decides to go back to being a teacher.
5. Didn't The Master say he was going to make him show all those years of aging? Time Lords have a slower aging cycle anyway (The Impossible Astronaut has both versions of Eleven looking the same despite 200 years difference), I always took it as The Master fiddling with The Doctor's genetics to make him appear decades if not centuries older *by Gallifreyan standards*, ignoring the Time Lord life expectancy (which is hard to pin down, but if we said it was about 1000 years given the duration between Ten's regeneration and Eleven's) in order to reflect how a Time Lord would look going from a physical form in their 30s to a physical form going on 1000. This was also with twisted Lazarus tech, not natural aging next to the Crack in Reality, things are going to be different.
4. TARDIS's are grown, sure. But they also don't chuck out and destroy all The Doctor's possessions. While it's possible The TARDIS could grow new devices like screens and phones (the Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS episode shows this), it's just as easy for The Doctor to acquire devices on his travels and tinker with them to implement them in the TARDIS. Magpie Electronics are clearly high quality by their brand longevity, and The Doctor could have a sentimental attachment for the brand reminding him of his adventure with Rose in the Idiot's Lantern.
3. I don't really like his plan either. I don't like most of the stories of the Chibbers era. But it doesn't really work if he just dresses like The Doctor. All it takes is one advanced probe or mind scan to cast credible doubt on this being the universal hero The Doctor, and suddenly the story changes from "The Doctor is a psychopath genociding worlds" to "There's some bastard running around cosplaying as The Doctor trying to besmirch their name". It still doesn't fully hold up, anyone checking for something beyond a genetic match would be able to tell the behaviour and mind in that body are of The Master (or at least not of The Doctor), but remember, The Master is still quite insane. It's a miracle he got as far as he did.
2. Yeah kinda ridiculous. It makes sense if they're trying to be quiet when they come across a swarm of Silents (as Amy does a couple times) and if there's a reflective surface to see your face, then I guess it's a more alarming reminder to have it on your face which *isn't* going to accidentally get rubbed off or be hidden (unlike if you start stripping off to doodle up your biceps and legs, not like we see Amy and Rory running around in vests and underpants to maximise tally space).
1. Time Lord pockets, storing a tea cup and saucer, a thermos of tea, and plausibly some Jammy Dodgers.
I think a way to explain why 11's Tardis Interior has bits of modern or older technology inside like the phone is because of when it was regenerating it needed to replace the pieces that were badly damaged so what way to do that than taking bits and pieces of technology The Doctor had to replace them which is why you see some stuff mixed in there it's the Tardis trying to rebuild itself from the scraps and leftovers of The Doctor's adventures.
Nine's jacket was Fitz's. I wrote a Ninth Doctor story, so I can say that definitively, that is 100% how work-for-hire contracts work.
I’ve always hated how there always seems to be a reboot of the master, tardis and ‘everything previous is forgotten” when a new dr turns up. I was jumping for joy when Moffat actually kept the same master and river song which made sense!
I always assumed that "4 minutes to Osaka" meant they were flying there, rather than going through the time vortex.
I can't escape the suspicion that Chris Chibnall regularly cut great swathes through the narrative of his episodes in order to insert some fairly mundane punchlines: "I am not Nick", "The Master's Dalek Plan"... and, of course "Ex-Terminate".
Tell me you dont under stand time travel with out telling me you dont under stand time travel
The masters plans are like: "hey, what if I was the doctor" and I dig it
The Doctor got the tea from the same place that Oswin Oslwald got the eggs for the souffle
"New man or Not?" He can travel through time. The Paradox of him seeing himself for the first time but others having evidence of him throughout time is no mistake. Its literally how he works lol
Also, the trips on the Tardis go through the folds of the continuum so all the trips take some time and none are instant, it's just how the show is edited that doesn't always show it.
Obviously Davros acquired the Secret Of Tea during his interrogation of the 4th Doctor in Genesis Of The Daleks and modified his chair to include a teasmade (and also a jelly baby dispenser).
10. If you can imprison a Weeping Angel (creatures that can move if you're not looking at them), then a Pting might just be a bit easier.
9. How do you know the Atraxi wasn't just reading his mind? Also, the Cybermen (and maybe also the Daleks) have obsessively video recorded their times with The Doctor. Maybe those are just some more moments they were able to get.
8. You have talked about the audio series featuring The Ninth Doctor. Did you not know that they were set before the events of Rose? (He also smashed every mirror in the TARDIS because he didn't want to see his face, being ashamed of what he thought he'd done during The Time War.) Also, what did you think happened when The Doctor initially said goodbye to Rose after she turned down travelling with him and then came back telling her the TARDIS travels in time? That it was just a few seconds for him as well as her? And there's a thought that Rose was with The Doctor, just not seen.
6. Clara said she was looking after Archie and Angie because she was doing a favour as their mum died and was a friend of Clara's. (And may have even been the woman with her at the end of The Snowmen.) How do you know she didn't already have anything? Also, Ian and Barbara (The Doctor's first ever human companions) were teachers at Coal Hill (with Ian having even become the head of the governors and told the headteacher back then Mr. Armitage about The Doctor). The Doctor could've obviously pulled a few strings.
4. You know The Doctor has manually changed the inside of the TARDIS, right?
3. I can't believe I'm defending Jodie Whittaker's time, but you know that The Master likes over the top schemes and messing with The Doctor and their friends, right?
1. As The Doctor said, "I'm The Doctor. Just accept it."
For day of the doctor its kind of explained later on some episode i dont really remember that whenever the doctor or the master or wtv else timelord interacts with themselves at a different point in their history that each variant of themselves will not remember what happened whenever they go back apart from each other , like some sort of paradox that affects their memory
Number 8 makes perfect sense, he has a time machine guys! Those photos could easily have been taken later on in his timeline and not before he met Rose
I am pretty sure the tally marks don't represent the number of Silence, but each time they run into one.
So working from the assumption that they have been told about the Silence when able to form memories, and the tests in the tardis they would understand the danger a single one can be if they don't know how often they have ran into it.
Making it more important to know about the number of blackouts rather than the number of a creature that they don't remember.
9 went travelling by himself in between the Tardis dematerializing and it coming back, before he tells Rose "Did I mention it also travels in time?".