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  • čas přidán 3. 12. 2023
  • Today we're going back to 2008 to count the most building dense map I have ever counted. I do not understate it when I say that this new york city made in china has brought me the most challenges ever whilst trying to film a video. It's just one grade above anything I have done before in terms of time it took to make.
    So I really hope you enjoy!

Komentáře • 250

  • @evankim2406
    @evankim2406 Před 8 měsíci +954

    This is possibly the best time to release a GTA related video.

  • @lien9650
    @lien9650 Před 8 měsíci +447

    At 101,714 peeps on a 16.14 km2 map, that means Liberty City has a density of about 6,301 per km2. About half as much as NYC (11,313.81 per km2), a bit above Boston (5,396 per km2) and about the same as Mexico City (6,000 per km2).
    Had Liberty City been as dense as the real thing tho, there'd be 182,604 peeps living in it, so I'd say Rockstar did a pretty good job!

    • @peachatthebeach6310
      @peachatthebeach6310 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Liberty city being divided into 3 main parts with no countryside and no wilderness but only buildings, suburbs, and parks
      Los santos being 1 huge island, a city being half the size of the map, and 2 other small cities, however there is mostly mountains, countryside, wilderness, and desert

    • @AnNy-mx6tl
      @AnNy-mx6tl Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@peachatthebeach6310 that is just California tho isn't it

    • @peachatthebeach6310
      @peachatthebeach6310 Před 7 měsíci

      @AnNy-mx6tl ingame it's san andreas but they are about the same
      The mountains and wilderness is what people didn't like about the game

  • @AussieGunzel
    @AussieGunzel Před 8 měsíci +204

    Rockstar should give this legend GTA 6 early so you can count how many people GTA 6 should have.

    • @alexanderbohart1550
      @alexanderbohart1550 Před 8 měsíci +16

      That would take months

    • @paco680
      @paco680 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I wonder what population will have the gta 6 map...1 million maybe?😳

    • @doubleseven1463
      @doubleseven1463 Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@paco680 Do you think that we will seriously have a map that is 10x as densely populated as gta 4? Imo it will be somewhere between 200-300k, but they may do something like los santos which will mean lower population.

  • @untrusted0
    @untrusted0 Před 8 měsíci +258

    lets just appreciate how much we appreciate appreciating commugum's hard work.

    • @p0nt
      @p0nt Před 8 měsíci +9

      i appreciate the positivity of this appreciation post

    • @timostedehouder3213
      @timostedehouder3213 Před 8 měsíci +7

      ⁠@@p0ntI’m pretty sure that’s appreciated.

  • @ytdanytevero
    @ytdanytevero Před 8 měsíci +57

    Idk why but I’ve always thought that the GTA IV map was intentionaly made so depresing so it can match better with the story.

    • @Sqk.
      @Sqk. Před 8 měsíci +17

      i always saw it as depressing in certain ways in certain parts. like Acter being depressing for being 100% industries, Algonquin for being so commercialised, broker being just generally shit and having bad weather, but certain places actually have the potential for nice weather which can completely change the colours of the map and make it so much less depressing, though to be fair it’s mostly alderney that does that lmao

    • @SuperBabyMario0C
      @SuperBabyMario0C Před 8 měsíci +8

      Also weather tho, it’s not as sunny and bright as Los Santos n LA. They wearing jackets at times too, so maybe it’s around late fall in GTA 4 tbh. That’s how it is in colder states, you get cloudy days for days

    • @ytdanytevero
      @ytdanytevero Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@SuperBabyMario0C there is also an animation for steam at the mouth of the characters and npcs when they breath. This can also sugest a cold weather

    • @johnclay2716
      @johnclay2716 Před měsícem +1

      It’s literally just how New York is

  • @OptimumPx
    @OptimumPx Před 8 měsíci +36

    "Oh fuck, it's Manhattan!"
    That actually got a laugh out of me, fantastic video!

  • @ddsjgvk
    @ddsjgvk Před 8 měsíci +20

    After a life of crime Niko gets a call from Library paper needing a consensus of LC

  • @robturnbull5835
    @robturnbull5835 Před 8 měsíci +73

    I just saw your GTA 5 population video and was hoping you'd done one for GTA 4. Didn't expect it to be this recent though haha!

  • @Sqk.
    @Sqk. Před 8 měsíci +78

    great work but my only problem is, alderney is supposed to be based on New Jersey rather than NYC, and is referenced as being (in) another state entirely, so the NYC people per household data potentially wouldn’t apply
    also, not sure if you did, but it would have likely given a much lower and more accurate population if you did every in-game borough based on the people per household of the borough it’s based off

  • @Eshanas
    @Eshanas Před 8 měsíci +44

    I hate that it'll be 10-12 years before we visit Liberty city again. I'm a new yorker and I would love to see LC again. But seeing this, this helps assauge that longing.

    • @agastyanhidayat219
      @agastyanhidayat219 Před 8 měsíci +21

      Probably be 14-15 more years until LC is back seeing that gta 6 will be released on 2025

    • @ImJustLayZ
      @ImJustLayZ Před 8 měsíci +9

      although gta has aprox used liberty city 7 times

    • @cloud99955
      @cloud99955 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Way longer gta 6 is 2 more years I assume there probably gonna do another city for gta 7 (maybe san fierro or las venturas or maybe something different) It might not even come back.

    • @bakacdaz
      @bakacdaz Před 8 měsíci +5

      Maybe not that long.
      If I remember correctly the dev did said about GTAVI have Live Service part isn’t it.
      Maybe that’s how they expanded the game and add new map like Los Santos or Liberty City in the game.

    • @user-xi1dd6wg3w
      @user-xi1dd6wg3w Před 8 měsíci

      But besides GTA, there are many other games that are set in New York City.

  • @OGREChad
    @OGREChad Před 8 měsíci +12

    Great vid! I tried this years ago and came up with 50-75k with 60-65k being what I thought was the sweet spot. I think your counting is much more accurate. I started swagging it in the really dense areas, counting number of buildings per block, average number of floors.

  • @earthlyvibes23
    @earthlyvibes23 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I love how imperfect the roads are in GTA iv, they are tiny and fun to speed on

  • @execute_cartoon62
    @execute_cartoon62 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Amazing job dude! Do the population of Night City next!

  • @Squareheed
    @Squareheed Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think Saints Row 2 would make for a perfect addition to this series.
    Varied boroughs and large scale, perfect for a brain denting experience!

  • @wjeat2
    @wjeat2 Před 8 měsíci +11

    this is some insane masochism. Amazing video 👍

  • @Manu340_YT
    @Manu340_YT Před 7 měsíci +2

    That "bada bing bada Donuts" has gotta be the best line in this video

  • @GSP6
    @GSP6 Před 7 měsíci +3

    i loved playing this game growing up, i still remember all the times trying to see it i could get inside buildings with no interiors to see what they look like and if there were any npcs inside them

  • @america2793
    @america2793 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The timing on releasing this is crazy XD
    Also great job on 10k and now 12.9k :D

  • @Lisanicolas366
    @Lisanicolas366 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Loved your video, as I always do! Congrats for 10k subs, definitely deserved it :D Cheers!!

  • @Lucas_Antar
    @Lucas_Antar Před 8 měsíci +6

    Its gow much better modern NYC looks than 2000s NYC. Hopefully GTA7 in 14 years is Liberty City and upstate.

    • @dramamine755
      @dramamine755 Před měsícem

      Maybe Manhattan lol Brooklyn and the Bronx look horrible now

  • @silverroll2095
    @silverroll2095 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Beautiful work! Very interesting see how you calculate population various cities!

  • @AtaraxyVAL
    @AtaraxyVAL Před 8 měsíci +1

    nahh no way, i just watched the gta 5 video from 8 months ago, went to see if you made one for gta 4 and you uploaded it literally yesterday.
    Good shit bro. Well made, good quality

  • @ikarder
    @ikarder Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yoooo i saw GTA V video and wanted to find same for GTA IV but there non of them. I Started playing GTA IV and now your video appears! Thanks!

  • @carpet163
    @carpet163 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The people that live in it are so diverse too. It's so interesting seeing different races, ethnics and cultures. It's always great to listen to different accents from all over the map. When I heard some guy yell "You stupid malaka" i searched if I could find more Greek people in the game. It seems hotdog venders and taxi drivers are the most common from my searching.

    • @commugum
      @commugum  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah I never played the game before (was like 2 when te game came out) and I was shockt how good everything was designed.

  • @ActuallySanFrancisco
    @ActuallySanFrancisco Před 7 měsíci +1

    as someone who lives in an American® City™ IRL, i can tell you firsthand - and this definitely won’t help your plight in counting the population level or GTA games - that quite a lot of skyscrapers that look like purely office buildings are not purely office buildings. a significant number of them are either purely residential, usually condos but sometimes apartments, or mixed use with some combination of office space, residential space, and / or a hotel taking up different segments of the building.
    at any rate, you’ve got a new subscriber 👍

  • @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520
    @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 Před 8 měsíci +7

    In the next version of LC, it would be good to see the main island, be as big and dense as the real Manhattan. But I would love to see them really double down on the detail. Have all the neighbourhoods feel distinctive.

    • @Sqk.
      @Sqk. Před 8 měsíci +5

      i feel like they already made the neighbourhoods distinct. i can almost always tell which area i’m in just by looking at it

    • @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520
      @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Sqk. No not really, and I mean Manhattan, as in GTA 4 their version of Manhattan was very condense and generic. I don't mean the other boroughs in the game. Like in real world Manhattan, there is a difference between Soho and the West Village that I want to see captured in a GTA game.

    • @Sqk.
      @Sqk. Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 i think they likely did that because it represents thr vibe of the game. just like how tlad and tbogt have different lighting depending on their themes, for niko Liberty City is a very strange place and especially in the most busy areas packed with skyscrapers it must seem to all blur together, but that’s just my opinion. it could also be they wanted to represent a specific area of manhattan or didn’t have the space and/or time to fully flesh it out. i do agree though, a truly expansive LC with a much bigger map, and countryside like the scrapped upstate area for IV, would be great

  • @v3k1tg
    @v3k1tg Před 8 měsíci +2

    just as the gta6 trailer gets leaked you upload this perfect timing

  • @David-tl5qi
    @David-tl5qi Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is the most underrated channel ever i swear

  • @Abacaxizeiros
    @Abacaxizeiros Před 7 měsíci +2

    You should do Ghost Recon: Wildlands! There are a ton of houses on that map that would make an interesting video!

  • @Tmbeo
    @Tmbeo Před 8 měsíci +3

    These videos are awesome. Would be cool if you also did gta 3, Vice city and San Andreas. Vice city atleast might be a bit easier as its much smaller.

  • @SkydrawnIV
    @SkydrawnIV Před 8 měsíci +2

    Bohan was the greatest for multiplayer games of TDM/DM/Turf War, it had the perfect size and layout.

  • @gamingmoth4542
    @gamingmoth4542 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Hope you’re ready to count the population of Vice City… In 2025.

  • @Yeagerbonebone
    @Yeagerbonebone Před 8 měsíci +2

    Awesome video. Could you do Just Cause 4 and Kingdom Come Deliverance one day?

  • @sarojandongol1482
    @sarojandongol1482 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Now this is setting up for one vid on gta san andreas.

  • @supahgaming8249
    @supahgaming8249 Před 8 měsíci +1

    every time i find one of these niche youtuber that do way too much research into these kind of subjects they always turn out to be dutch. we really are everywhere

  • @homiegunz
    @homiegunz Před 7 měsíci +6

    watch dogs 2 population

  • @CakeMaster47
    @CakeMaster47 Před 8 měsíci +5

    watching this while eating a grilled cheese

  • @Okos-anim
    @Okos-anim Před 8 měsíci +1

    Glad that you didn't go insane from this

  • @BradleyWhalley
    @BradleyWhalley Před 8 měsíci +1

    really enjoying your channel at the moment bro keep it up, look forward t see your new idea you have

  • @Transit1playz
    @Transit1playz Před 8 měsíci +1

    Oh f##k Its Manhattan! really got me 😂😂

  • @EndlessCipher
    @EndlessCipher Před 8 měsíci +3

    It would be incredible if you did Cyberpunk’s Night City

  • @TheGoldenOrange
    @TheGoldenOrange Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey, I love your population vids! Ever considered doing a population vid for an open world medieval game like Witcher 3 or Kingdom Come Deliverance? KCD would actually be simpler than a GTA, as the game's area is small and the buildings on the map are displayed very clearly.

  • @DeafCope
    @DeafCope Před 7 měsíci

    geez man im not about to go fact check you on this...
    kudos for your dedication

  • @zagorovic789
    @zagorovic789 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Your videos and work are amazing!!

  • @houmihm
    @houmihm Před 7 měsíci +1

    That one had to be a pain in the ass, well done and congratulations for still being able to stay outside a mental health facility.

  • @prgamer241
    @prgamer241 Před 8 měsíci

    Nice banger! When GTA 6 drops after some time you should do a video about the population of the state of Leonida.
    In the meantime, I would like you to do a video on the Population of Just Cause 4

  • @Vestyyy887
    @Vestyyy887 Před 8 měsíci +1

    makes me happy to see your channel grow :D

  • @BMoney8600
    @BMoney8600 Před 8 měsíci

    This is super cool. I’m gonna pick up GTA 4 again. It’s been a while

  • @somebodysomebody801
    @somebodysomebody801 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I know doing this would be quite difficult considering the state of it in the games, but would it be possible for you to count the population of one of the fallout games? Of course assuming that when you find a building the population is counted based off of what it would have been before the war.

    • @slicer2938
      @slicer2938 Před 8 měsíci +3

      honestly would be difficult because buildings are uninhabited or whether you count characters such as raiders and such. estimated prewar population would be impossible dissapointingly. quite a large amount of buildings are leveled and its hard to grasp when your looking at a building torn in half.

  • @RestitutorEuropa
    @RestitutorEuropa Před 8 měsíci +8

    It’s pretty crazy how much bigger in terms of population Liberty city is compared to Los Santos despite being a smaller map. In fact compared to the the real life ratio between New York and Los Angeles of about 2 to 1, it’s substantially higher than it should be.

  • @epicweedskrrtswag7872
    @epicweedskrrtswag7872 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Lekker bezig man!

  • @xkinsey3831
    @xkinsey3831 Před 8 měsíci +2

    6:34 Did you just fly an aircraft into a building in New York City 😭

    • @reagank.2268
      @reagank.2268 Před měsícem

      I think there’s a reason they didn’t give us planes in GTA 4…

  • @Lazidiz
    @Lazidiz Před 8 měsíci

    When we needed him the most he came back

  • @henning8737
    @henning8737 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I always asked myself this question, appreciate your work.
    Bedankt.

  • @krazykaid
    @krazykaid Před 8 měsíci

    I’m literally a new viewer saw your gta5 video, subscribed and now another gta video!?? What a coincidence XD

  • @xijaomao
    @xijaomao Před 5 dny

    Well At least the soviet union solved homelessness. Sometimes copy-paste apartments are the quick and budget friendly way to do that.

  • @catdrawnt
    @catdrawnt Před 2 měsíci

    I literally only would want to buy gta 4 for the c5 corvette because i love that car and gta 4 does such a good job matching it

  • @skolll-iz1rb
    @skolll-iz1rb Před 8 měsíci +2

    Perfect Timing

  • @Unlucky_Luckiest_Bastard
    @Unlucky_Luckiest_Bastard Před 8 měsíci

    I just appreciate the fact GTA 4 is getting its recognition. It was my first GTA game and my introduction into the series when i was 18. Since then I've played the others and i see they are all great in their aspects but barring being bias i say GTA 4 was the best in the series with how alive the city felt and "Niko lets go bowling". San Andreas is my second favorite but out of them all i find myself replaying GTA 4 and the DLC stories the most. GTA 4 is my personal favorite

  • @viktorkhan8518
    @viktorkhan8518 Před 7 měsíci

    Great job, we'd like to extend to you an offer at McKinsey

  • @damcore4923
    @damcore4923 Před 8 měsíci +1

    You hit a niche that nobody else satisfies. Brother, stick to this format and production quality and I believe you'll be looking at much more than just 10K subs soon lmao

  • @may.b.tomorrow
    @may.b.tomorrow Před 8 měsíci +3

    GTA 4 always seemed so much bigger to me compared to GTA 5.

  • @zoubeirfaouzi149
    @zoubeirfaouzi149 Před 7 měsíci

    I dare you to do this with Night city. I'm convinced you will go insane. 🤣

  • @xijaomao
    @xijaomao Před 5 dny

    It's ironic because queens and Brooklyn have million of people in them individually.

  • @jytvreal
    @jytvreal Před 8 měsíci +1

    Keep this series coming up!

  • @AgusB69420
    @AgusB69420 Před 8 měsíci

    Hey, I loved the video. You could do San Andreas next!

  • @circle679-m3i
    @circle679-m3i Před 7 měsíci +1

    gta 4 still have good graphics for a 2008 game im surprised
    thry aged better than gta 5

  • @WoWdelaFrogh
    @WoWdelaFrogh Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jo would be nice if u could count the population of anywhatchdogs game.

  • @Tsudkyk
    @Tsudkyk Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really hope GTA VII is based in liberty city. I’m already looking forward to the 2037 release.

  • @eliscott0833
    @eliscott0833 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Keep making more of these man 🙏🏽

  • @sarmadali7191
    @sarmadali7191 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Do 3d universe GTA games next (possibly include their "stories" version too)

  • @Heyheyhey0475
    @Heyheyhey0475 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Calling it now but this is probably gonna be the highest number of people the population series will reach. The only contender after this would be the even more skyscraper dense sleeping dogs

    • @gamexlogics5551
      @gamexlogics5551 Před 8 měsíci +1

      What about GTA San Andreas with three cities, many towns and countrysides...

    • @tomvlogs8463
      @tomvlogs8463 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@gamexlogics5551not as much skyscrapers that have housing.

    • @gamexlogics5551
      @gamexlogics5551 Před 8 měsíci

      @@tomvlogs8463 yea but still it has way lot houses mansions and apartments

    • @jsgamerpro2359
      @jsgamerpro2359 Před 8 měsíci

      Night city☠️

    • @Arkiasis
      @Arkiasis Před 8 měsíci +2

      I wonder how GTA 6 will fare. From the trailer Vice City looks huge and has a ton of skyscrapers and a skyline that rivals Liberty City.

  • @slifer19964444
    @slifer19964444 Před 8 měsíci

    Lol for some reason I just started to watch your videos a couple of days ago wondering how the rdr map looks from above and how many people live their.. and their you go uploading gta4 while I was browsing gameplay of it lol. Have a nice day!

  • @muertolamento
    @muertolamento Před 8 měsíci

    Excellent video man, would be interested in seeing the new battle royale map for Warzone called Urzikstan.

  • @caseylayton4898
    @caseylayton4898 Před 7 měsíci

    The Statue of Happiness was ridiculous when I was 13. Now it could be a reality.

  • @Oz_Darkr1d3r
    @Oz_Darkr1d3r Před dnem +1

    6:45 is the flatiron building

  • @russellpuff1996
    @russellpuff1996 Před 8 měsíci

    Can’t wait to see Leonida’s population video in 2025!

  • @kieran3913
    @kieran3913 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I would love if you did a video like this for the Witcher 3!!!

  • @Ronaldo_siuu7777
    @Ronaldo_siuu7777 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You should do a video on Spiderman 2

  • @FlossycapYT
    @FlossycapYT Před 4 měsíci

    brucie is malding

  • @TheGladiatorofrome
    @TheGladiatorofrome Před 8 měsíci +1

    Its a good time to start making gta videos the most for new channels.

  • @gone.46
    @gone.46 Před 8 měsíci

    I love your way of talking! 😭

  • @germancountryballDE
    @germancountryballDE Před 8 měsíci

    Suggestion: Watch Dogs: Legion, it's gonna be a pain in the ass though

  • @DisBuilder
    @DisBuilder Před 25 dny +1

    6:47 i know you probably know what it's called, i do not want to be that guy..... but i will be that guy... that is the flatiron building.

  • @DerWasserflasche
    @DerWasserflasche Před 8 měsíci

    GTA 4 was the tutorial. Night City will be the real nightmare

  • @Eljugador130
    @Eljugador130 Před 7 měsíci

    Imagine if this is how the government did a population count instead of how they do it

  • @bfl8865
    @bfl8865 Před 8 měsíci

    cant wait for the population of GTA 6

  • @RestitutorEuropa
    @RestitutorEuropa Před 8 dny

    5:11 You drew the border between Dukes and Broker wrong. The border isn’t along that highway, Broker still goes a bit north past that highway on the west side. Not that it matters for the total calculation, but still.

  • @thickt
    @thickt Před 8 měsíci +1

    Watch dogs 1 population is a hard one

  • @adamus1342
    @adamus1342 Před 8 měsíci

    I have a suggestion, which will take ages so it can be a long time project: population of Azeroth from World of Warcraft

  • @Youalreadyknowbaby
    @Youalreadyknowbaby Před 8 měsíci

    I’m out here high af eating some sour cream and onion Pringles watching a video about the population in a game, life is ok

  • @gem6880
    @gem6880 Před 7 měsíci

    Fact: Alderney is based on the state on New Jersey. (Mostly the cities of Newark New Jersey and Jersey City)

  • @RRProducties
    @RRProducties Před 8 měsíci

    Potverdikkie what a good video man

  • @GTAHeavyImpact
    @GTAHeavyImpact Před 8 měsíci

    Liberty City is a crowded place!

  • @irvinalexanderflores
    @irvinalexanderflores Před 8 měsíci +1

    And somehow in the 3d Liberty City the manual says the population is 4 million.. I wish every GTA told you the population..

  • @mazeonyt
    @mazeonyt Před 8 měsíci

    the guy himself has returned

  • @NotBedwarsDad
    @NotBedwarsDad Před 5 měsíci

    Imagine walking into a house with two and a half people

    • @commugum
      @commugum  Před 5 měsíci

      No, that would not smell nice

  • @pook21M
    @pook21M Před 8 měsíci +1

    Population of Microsoft flight simulator video coming soon?

    • @cfltheman
      @cfltheman Před 8 měsíci

      Should be easier since it uses real maps.

  • @OldMonke
    @OldMonke Před 8 měsíci

    we waitin for gta 6 population

  • @Jasongilliar
    @Jasongilliar Před 7 měsíci

    Nice videos, i love this. +1 sub