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Davinci Resolve is very smart at switching between your discrete GPU and your intel iGPU (just make sure both options are ticked in the settings, plus iGPU is enabled in BIOS). So say you're scrubbing through the timeline and you've got a mix of codecs in there, you'll see in Task Manager that when h265 video is playing, the Intel is what's being used to decode, not NVIDIA
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I did some google-searching and you're bang on. Sometimes video uses CPU, sometimes GPU. In my case it's going to be very CPU intensive, which means best case scenario is to have a good CPU and a good GPU. More coming soon...
@@AnthonyGugliotta see how you go, nowadays it’s not just raw performance that has to be factored in, but also the media engines when it comes to content creation. So Apple silicon may have less horsepower than a custom pc with dedicated graphics (but it’s still plenty powerful in its own right), but it has dedicated hardware specifically designed for video editing. A muscle car may have more horsepower, but an electric vehicle could travel 20mph just the same on a city road, but more efficiently.
What about Radeon integrated graphics?
I’m in a similar struggle but I think I’m going to end up on an M2 Mac Studio
I did a custom PC build for gaming, video editing, and photo editing. I just love the fact that it'll never become "outdated" since everything is basically plug and play. But with the specs I have there's no reason to do that for the next 5 years or so
what’s your build?
@@vlod6427 I have a 2TB SSD, GTX 4090, copper pipe coolers, I9 processor with 16 cores and 24 threads, 48 Gigs of memory
An update for the build
@@pedromarquez4578 build is complete. Looks really good and I have no issues with speed and no bottlenecking. I guess I could saved money with the RTX 4070Ti instead of the 4090, but it was worth it
So what's the build....@@juny1624
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I recently built my own pc because none of the pre built ones suited my video and photo editing needs. These components were what I eventually used in the build for a fast PC.
AMD 5975 threadripper CPU
Nvidia RTX 4060ti
64gB of cosair Ram
4 hard drives
2 fast Samsung m2 drives for the operating system and editing programmes and two SATA drives for my photo and videos storage.
Separating the operating system from the programmes makes a huge difference to workload speed and once I'm happy with edited videos they're transferred to a modular NAS disk station which currently has 16 TB of available and used data.
Looking into my first build for DaVinci Resolve, how’s your working out??
that 4060 ti is ruining the whole build lmao
Wait you have one NVME for the OS and one for the programs? Instead of one NVME for OS and programs and one as a scratch drive? Oh god... that's a huge rookie mistake.
@@kingdreyer3033 if he is using Adobe Premiere with no CGI stuff, it really does not make a difference if he uses a 4060Ti or a 4090.
I love my M3 MacBook Pro, I program in python, photo/video editing and djing/music production and it handles all of them no issues. I tried pc for all of these and a very high end built pc but I don’t think it’s the same when it comes to stability and ease of use
How much was that m3?
@@Blankfiles._ 2K and I have a built server as well but my MacBook best mobile computer with tons of power
I love Mac's and it really drives me crazy how many PC apps aren't available for it
Like which? You can torrent them all these days with vpn thats what i do no issues for over 10 years
I’ve played around with the M2 Mac Studio and it is stupidly powerful. However if you can’t run your editing software on it it’s useless.
You can. It runs Resolve, Final Cut (which you can't run on Windows) and Premiere. Though, Premiere is the worst, slowest, buggiest, and most expensive option of the three.
@@77dristhat’s a feature on adobe cc
I need DaVinci Resolve, and that works great. I was referring to the “editing software” he mentioned not working.
It's not powerful. I worked for a game development company as level designer last year. It can't even handle low poly levels on lowest settings. It ran with peak 13 FPS
@@gouravgahlawat4654that’s not the use case for the majority of M2 Mac users. Gaming isn’t the only way to measure how powerful a system is. Of course games that aren’t optimized or built for Mac aren’t going to run well on Mac but that does not mean that an M2 Mac isn’t stupidly good at video editing (hint: it’s rated one of the best chips for video editing hands down)
i’m literally just about to buy a pc😭
Same I'm thinking of getting one
You get so much more for the money with a PC.
This. I had to get a Mac 10ish years ago for work (software was MacOS only). Within 2-3 years it's basically a glorified paperweight for legacy software. Couldn't upgrade anything except for RAM.
Get a PC with 13th gen i7 or higher. Pair it with DDR 5 RAM, gen 5 nVME SSD, and a 4000 series RTX nvidia graphics card.
Tip: if you are assembling it's better to go for a chunky air cooler For CPU like noctua, than a liquid cooler.
And PCs can always be upgradable in foreseeable future.
I'm a computer technician and part-time videographer and editor, and I can assure you that in Premiere the GPU won't make a difference, even if it's an RTX 4090, If you don't use some type of CGI. Premiere doesn't use the GPU for encoding, it only uses it to generate virtual things in the video. If you really want to take advantage of the GPU's performance to export the video faster, abandon Premiere and switch to Davinci Resolve. There the GPU is actually used for encoding and not just for CGI tasks. Not to mention that in addition to Premiere, Davinci replaces Audition and After Effects.
I have a Mac Studio and it’s an absolute power house. I use Mac, Linux and Windows but for work I stick to Mac. You’ve thought me a lot in this last months since I’ve been watching your videos, if you want more details on why I think you should switch to Mac, I’ll elaborate.
Okay now tell me... It's been a month I'm searching and finding between windows laptop or MacBook pro or PC for 4K video editing and graphic designing. I'm expat in Saudi Arabia.. I'm confused. Help me. I have been using windows all my life now going to mac os is what afraid I'm. But is it tooo difficult to learn mac os.?????
As a PC Guy. These new Apple computers as just top notch. Apple all
Day for photo and video editing.
Stick to what you know and am most comfortable with. There is no right or wrong answer to this.
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If you dont mind your pc's fan running a lot and if it will be kept in a cool place. I would hands down recommended a ryzen 9 7900x series. Its little bit more hotter than Intel and less energy efficient. But it's noticeable faster. I use a ryzen 9 5900hx for personal use and an Intel i9 13th gen. Both with 128gb of ram and a rtx 4090 in both. Sometimes I can notice the Intel machine being a little slower especially with heavy graphics work
But is it actually faster in the timeline? I think editing experience is much more important than rendering time.
Last time I tried an R5 5600x on premiere pro was definitely a worst experience than an i5 12400
@mastroitek in my experience it's faster in time-line as well
@@mananjindal2750 interesting, is the iGPU doing its job? I point this out simply because if that is not the case than you could get better perf. which is definitely a plus :)
Or maybe the iGPU can't handle the codec.
Eitherway, you have two sick machines there!! :)
Haven't touched my 4K Cine-EI footage from my Sony FX30 yet, but I've prepared myself with my new PC build which consists of:
* CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF
* GPU: Nvidia RTX 3060ti Founders Edition
* Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A WiFi D4 ATX
* RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB RS DDR4 3200MHz 16GB x2
* Main SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB
* 2nd SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB
* Main HDD: Seagate IronWolf PRO 3,5" NAS HDD 4TB
* 2nd HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3,5" HDD 2TB
* PSU: MSI MPG A650GF 650W 24-pin ATX
* PC House: Fractal North Charcoal Black TG Clear Tint Mid Tower
* Additional fan: Be Quiet! Pure Wings 2 120mm PWM
How’s the 3060Ti performing?
Mac is for ppl that want something that works and don't mind some limitations. Windows is for people that care about budget and doesn't want any limitations, and don't mind extra work fixing or upgrading. Just the way I see it based on my own experience
When you go MAC, you never go back!🎉
At least that was the case for me, left after windows 98 🐢
Today is so much better than we had it back then… worth the cash and the time to re-learn software…
Just keep your current setup for emergencies until you feel comfortable…
If going the pc route I really hope he went with amd for a cpu. The 12-14th gen intel chips definitely are overpriced and underpowered. And they straight up don’t work at the advertised speeds.
Mac can run windows with Parallels Software, essentially a Mac is both.
Mac is always better since Apple Silicon. Like there are DIMENSIONS between.
You can also use ALL software on your mac.
Windows, MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, Linux, newest top games in ultra settings on a 14“ MacBook Pro with the PS5 DualSense Controller? Not an issue! So yeah update your opinions about Macs because their compatibility has blown through the roof
I produce video, motion and 3D for a consumer goods manufacturer. I can attest to a good build’s performance. Mac’s are great for real-time previews of 4K footage while editing in timeline. To be honest though they still can’t touch RTX for both real-time render in timeline AND extremely fast export (which is why you’ll need both CPU and GPU).
Why have one, when you can build and have both? Btw I am a huge Apple fan. My first mac was a 91 Apple SE. It’s not a bias. I literally use both everyday (new machines not the SE). Influencers go Mac and push Mac which is why you see it saturate the pro market, but there’s a reason shows like Mando use RTX machines.
I would rather spend more than switch platforms. In video editing the cpu are usually utilized more than gpu. In curently editing on 12900k with 1050ti and it's really enough. Don't judge the gpu, i have 4070ti on the way :D
The 13th and 14th intel CPU’s have some problems which causes a high failure rate. Intel is about to release an update that should fix it so make sure to update your bios when using new intel cpus.
You’ll get there. You’ll join the force inevitably.
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It's not simple as that, both are possessing units in general one work with tiny cores with really large numbers the other work with large cores in tiny numbers. For decoding mainly writing / copying cpu excels but in a video edit it's not that only you really need to grab a frame decode that frame make an edit in that frame ( color / graphics) decode that again then play a preview. In simple words you need both as powerful as your budget to have a good experience.
Any way h264 is a nightmare to work with.
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Mac, Davinci Resolve. Simple. Just works. 😊
To my knowledge you need BOTH!
The CPU handles al the rendering of the video files and conversions and stuff. But since gpu‘s these days are designed for 3D Rendering, they are needed for effects and overlays etc.
Yes. My 12600k works great for H.265 cutting and coloring, but the moment I started playing with FX I figured out what the GPU is for.
For photo editing I definitely recommend a AMD Ryzen 9 7950x way above an i9 13900k
AMD is not even in the equation here lol
@@RomvnlyPlays yea exactly
@@RomvnlyPlaysindeed
Photo editing? I'm pretty sure a 16C CPU is extremely overkill for that. My old 7700k seems to do just fine on lightroom and Photoshop
AMD is way better than Intel. Cheaper, better and more energy efficient. Plus intel is a terrible company. Too greedy and they fu.ked consumers for the past at least 20 years. But you guys love that I see.
RAM os also a crucial factor for video editing
Higher ram means faster and smoother editing
I’m looking to get a new computer and i prefer PCs, but I prefer apple for my smart phone. Is it a headache to get iphone video files onto a PC? I’m aware that apple doesn’t play nice outside their ecosystem.
I would consider a Mac for many reasons. The way everything is integrated into the ecosystem is flawless. The over experience is for more superb. Because all devices can speak to each other it’s a better workflow overall.
You can always just upgrade only your cpu to the ryzen 9 5950x so you dont need any new motherboard or components and it will work just as great
i mean it's more than good enough... and in real world application you really won't see the difference... but it's 2023... people only want the newst and fastest even if it's just 5% faster in edge cases and makes no difference
Just bought the HP Envy 16 touch. It is a BEAST. The screendoor effect is definitly noticeable, but it's definitly worth the money especially if you get it referbed or open box.
I would recommend like a intel Core i9 13900k processor or a AMD Ryzen 9 7950X or an AMD Ryzen 9 5950x. So if you get a i9 13900k get a good z790 motherboard that will support 13th gen out of the box. If you get a Ryzen 9 7950x get a good x670 motherboard that will support Ryzen 7000 out of the box. If you get a Ryzen 9 5950x get a good x570 motherboard that would support Ryzen 5000 out of the box, another choice would be keep your motherboard and update your bios or uefi.if it is not already updated it to support Ryzen 5000 so you would not need any other new motherboard if you get the Ryzen 9 5950x.
I would recommend getting a better CPU because your graphics card is probably fine and the amount of ram is also really fine so you will need a better CPU because your computer is doesn't have a good enough CPU for what you need it. I hope this helps.
To be honest, ssd and ram might play more of role in timeline performance as CPU have gotten really good nowadays. + With current prices on SSD you can get a killer deal or 4tb drives with crazy performance.
The reason you want to go for Intel over AMD is mainly cause of quicksync. But that means you need to get intel cpu with integrated graphics
I have both and use my MacBook Pro m1 w iPad m2 exclusively for my music photo and video work. I have a gaming pc w a 3080 but honestly working w raw files on there is way worse then on my Mac without downloading extra software which you’d have to immediately to even view them straight out of camera
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Okay now tell me... It's been a month I'm searching and finding between windows laptop or MacBook pro or PC for 4K video editing and graphic designing. I'm expat in Saudi Arabia.. I'm confused. Help me. I have been using windows all my life now going to mac os is what afraid I'm. But is it tooo difficult to learn mac os.?????
You should just get a second hand M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pro and then a pc for the extra software, or use parallels…
last 2 or 3 intel cpu generations are having stability issuses, idk if that's a good idea. Maybe not all of them got that problem??
AMD is way better now
I mean, if you like spending WAY more money for a computer with nor real upgrade options; go for mac. If you want to customize what you build; upgrade whenever you want and way more options. go PC. And you will still spend less money with the PC.
As many replies on the previous video, just upgrade your CPU since a R5 3600 is barely enough for 4k editing (6 cores, 12 threads iirc) i'd go for at least a ryzen 7 or 9 specially from series 5000 or even better the new 7000 series (i'd go for ryzen in your case since you already have an amd motherboard, buying an intel cpu while it may perform slightly better in editing it will cost a bit more, good i7 is around 300-400€, new motherboard and also a new cooler since intel new gens get really hot
You should seriously consider AMD 7000 series processors. They are just as good as intel, and the AMD motherboards will be supporting at least 3 generations of future CPUs so an upgrade will be as easy as dropping it in
AMD is better than Intel. Intel is also a terrible company and very greedy.
AMD doesn’t decode h265 422 10bit. Only intel and Apple M.
I suggest an AMD Ryzen to have the best performance on a workstation, that could be editing or pretty anything else.
The Ryzen 7 series, especially 5th gen are the best in power efficiency and at handling single core and multi core tasks.
Intel is not bad, but has a worse price point and bad thermals.
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If you have a microcenter near you I recommend the Powerspec G471 which has a NVIDIA 4080 or the Powerspec G473 which has a NVIDIA 4090. Both have the I9-13900KF CPU. Both have insane editing and encoding power. If you were to switch over to Davinchi Resolve Studio you would have access to the dual AV1 encoders the 4080 and 4090 have.
Buy a Mac. Run VM Fusion. Windows installs on a Mac in literally a few minutes. I’ve dual OS system for over a decade with no additional issues.
As a PC guy, I went to Mac m1 it works great but I just don't get along with Mac os, I like windows PC because it's all around games editing videos music upgradable 😐😑 but the Mac is good bang for buck for budgets unless you go top of the line lol
Nowadays editing with CapCut no need of high end PC, it can runs smoothly on old computer like i3 7th gen, if you only need to speed editing and just shorts videos
Getting a i9 or a ryzen 9 will give more cores which is important when editing, and pair it with something like a 3060., it will be enough for editing
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Premiere Pro is Focused on CPU not GPU. only extra effects in longer timelines will need a GPU excelarated option. for Example : every clip COlorgraded, Denoised, Many Key effects in a 50+ minutes Timeline will need a good GPU,
If you are editing on your MacBook, it would be easier for you to do your work if you buy a Mac for a main computer as well because by doing so, you will use only one OS. Otherwise, you will be using both Windows and MacOS.
honestly... nobody should ever record in h.265.... even on the newest processors you won't get anything close to a fluid experience... h.264 is just still better as a compression... and if you want 10bit... on a Canon go XF-AVC it's just miles better for editing.... h.265 is too compressed the computer has to work too hard... save some money and invest into bigger storage mediums for your camera instead and record All-I/Long GOP
Except on M1/M2 macs... H.265 even 4K 120 10 bit doesn't even make it work up a sweat.
Mac M2 is really good and powerful. But if ur using it for video/music editing ur gonna need to spend like £300 on the apps like Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. Some people say the apps are worth the price but idk coz I don’t have those apps
Could always run a program called parallels that gives you the ability to run full windows based programs within Mac
I'd say get a Ryzen 7000 and a good RX card or go intel i7+ 13th gen and get an RTX 40 series, don't go for mac at all cause it's just not good for anything outside of basic production
I don't think you have enough budget. This is probably a call for a sponsor.
I love to play computer games, if not for games I'd be a full on Apple Boy, the M-Chips are just insane!! Scrubbing 4k-6k videos live on iPad pro editing software lag free vs Windows is just insane!
btw, i thought you've had an AMD Cpu, so you won't be able to upgrade to an Intel CPU unless you change your motherboard, because the Motherboard you have now has a different cpu socket, so watchout for that.
I think he said previously that it was a AMD Ryzen 5 3600, which is a AM4 socket on the motherboard, the Best AMD cpu that fits into that socket is the Ryzen 9 5950X, and, I think, all other 5000 series chips.
@@kk6doc or an ryzen 7 5800x3d, has better performance, but not sure if it is better with editing. It has a higher fps in games but the ryzdn 9 5950x is probbably better for editing, but not sure.
@@kingrioni9561yes the 5950x is the best for editing
Looking at a full upgrade currently.
@@AnthonyGugliotta a 5950x should be as powerful as you need it to be and you should get an rtx 40 series, get more ram and storage, if your power supply is over 750w keep it, otherwise get a higher wattage one possibly from a reputable brand like Corsair or Seasonic
Not a Mac fan but I think WINE is available on it for running windows software.
I edit on a M1 MacBook for work and a PC at my studio. The PC is a Ryzen 2700x and a 2080ti so it’s a bit older but everything runs smooth. I like working on both but hate going between them instead of ExFat drives I do NTFS and installed NTFS for Mac. Other than that and not being able to find a good KVM to use both with 3 4k monitors I really enjoy working on both OS’s for different reasons.
Why aren't you using network storage?
@@orbatosI work between my studio and the studio at my work and travel a lot so I have to be mobile. I have a server at work and a NAS at home and neither are fast enough to work off of. I mainly use network storage as off site archival.
Don’t buy an intel processor right now, there are too many problems with those chips.
Once you come into the mac eco system you’ll ask yourself where were you all these years 😊
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Mac M2 is okay but when it comes to video editing & gaming then PC is the way to go just because both the above mentioned tasks require enormous GPU power which is simply not possible with any Mac whatsoever.
If you are in a buget and still want to have good Stuff try the used Market but do your research and ONLY buy gpus or Fans or cases not gpus and motherboards or CPU Coolers. I baught a Gpu (3080) for 560Chr. Swiss Franc. In Switzerland is the used Market VERY good and fair. I am editing by myself on da Vinci for the Final Export rendering the CPU is used and for the realtime rendering Like using for editing in the timeline its using the gpu. If someone has quesions just ask.
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And it is also VERY important to inverst Ingo your cooling. I got the 4000d airflow (always use airflow). And I built the PC myself, it is not Hard ONLY installing Windows and doing the wireing
Why don't you just buy the Mac studio and install an windows repartition on it? This way you gonna get both MacOS and Windows installed, best of two worlds
If you wonder who does more, that's cpu, gpu just for colors, and cpu does the resolution, like encoding when export, it does really much
I got both and this a incredible setup ❤
Very true..... Intel nailed it after 12th gen intel
you could buy a mac and bootcamp windows or run parallels to visrtualise the windows software
So. For a $4.5k pc for editing a:
ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME
Ryzen 9 7950x3d
96gb ddr5 ram
Crucial 4tb ssd
ProArt GeForce RTX™M 4080 OC Edition 16GB
GDDR6X
1100w psu
If he went with intel he got ROYALLY screwed over 💀
Pc has more longevity since you can upgrade the individual components in 2-3 years
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Intel goes boomboom
You mentioned that a major factor tying you to PC's where utility apps. Might you consider vmware or parallels to run those on the mac. I use a maxed out M1 max and it flies for just about everything (Except for adding .m2v files in Toast 20 for burning blu-rays, which is annoyingly slow)
Buy a Mac studio, forget the PC. GET bootcamp and run windows from an external drive. 1 hard ware set runs 2 full complete OS systems and choices are double for half the machine count.
There might be Mac versions of the utilities by third parties that you might not have heard of or GitHub versions that might work better.
Go for AMD rather than intel
You said you had an AMD cpu before, you wont be able to go intel unless you change your motherboard for a different socket
Don't use 13th or 14th gen intel chips!
for editing its mac is better but when you want gaming then pc it is
You don’t need top of the line mac. M1 Mac Studio is a great deal if you want to keep a realistic budget
It would be slower than what he currently has.
@@orbatos unless you are making massive complex renders the difference eis unnoticeable
Ooh. I wonder if those specs post can be available for us.
The i3 intel core is perfect and cheap if your on a budget and edits my 6k footage amazing
people making proxies for h265 in 2023 😭😭 it's your legacy hardware, not the codec 😂
I had a MacBook from 2015 and it still runs good I would say Mac
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If there is anything I can do to help please let me know I would need to know what program you use and what file types you’re trying to export I can run them both on my test systems but I would like to say the Ryzen 7950x would be the best for a multi core work load with a Rtx 4090 because it’s able to utilize AV1 encoding
I'm waiting for a DDR5 upgrade kit
I would just get 13700k bundle from micro center
What would be a solid pc or or laptop recommendation if your just going use photoshop and adobe illustrator some video editing but nothing crazy?
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Me as certified tech nerd would highly recommend the i7 13700k it’s great for the price and will do all you need, something like the i9 13900k does have a lot more to give but it runs soo hot that with water cooling it will still over heat (most of the time) so you will pay more for a cpu that you can’t even use to its full potential. Your gpu is already pretty good and I would absolutely not upgrade at this time its a great thing and won’t have to upgrade it anytime soon. I hope this was very useful wanted to do something for you because you have done soo much for me with all your camera tips and tricks
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You have to use the right cooler if you run i9 12900k or i9 13 900k.
Look at the Arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm. This is the one to use not something air cooling or 360mm aio
You can run windows on the mac no problem.
I used canon R6m2 but there is no All-i in video this pises me off. My system cries because s that that smoth my. Hating canon for not giving All-i 😤😭
Whats better for editing high resolution gameplay videos?Mac Book Pro 16 or gaming laptop with graphics card like RTX 4070?