Eddie Van Halen Meets David Lee Roth | Documentary - "Edward Van Halen: A Musician" (Part 3)

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • An unofficial, fan-made documentary on the life and career of Eddie Van Halen.
    This third part covers the early bands that Edward and Alex Van Halen played in, and examines how they came to join forces with former cross-town rival David Lee Roth.
    It features some previously unreleased audio with Alex Van Halen from 1985, courtesy of the great Steve Rosen, which was part of the interview process for his autobiography with Edward that never was. An extra special thank you to Steve for that.
    Music by Philip Sheppard (under license from Audio Network)
    Special thanks (in no particular order) to:
    Alan Berry
    Michel Schinkel
    Daniel Sullivan
    Jan Velasco Kosharek
    Brian Corralejo
    Julian Pollack
    Jas Obrecht
    Dave & Dave Unchained Podcast
    Lynn Larson Kershner
    Adam Roach
    Johnny Beane
    Recommended reading:
    Buy Greg Renoff's Van Halen Rising bitly.ws/3aG7h
    Buy Steve Rosen's Tonechaser (3rd Edition) bitly.ws/3aG8b
    Buy Elizabeth Wiley's Could This Be Magic bitly.ws/3aG7q
    Buy Brad Tolinski and Chris Gill's Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen bit.ly/43nkIOj
    Buy Noel Monk's Runnin' With The Devil bit.ly/3OCElxW
    Buy Paul Brannigan's Eruption: The Eddie Van Halen Story bitly.ws/3aLcP

Komentáře • 65

  • @jonaldblip_
    @jonaldblip_ Před 6 měsíci +11

    Hey these videos are BIG TIME. I don’t know where “icons Remembered” got the money to put this together but these Van Halen videos are as artistic as Eddie Van Halen was. Your videos are on a whole nother level from anything I’ve EVER seen on CZcams!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Money? Definitely none of that behind this 😁 But I'm really glad you like them. Very, very kind of you to say all that and it's appreciated!

  • @user-rt9zq8rs9k
    @user-rt9zq8rs9k Před 6 měsíci +5

    This reminds me of stories from THE INSIDE MAGAZINE . Wish it was still published from time to time .

  • @Kinger1625
    @Kinger1625 Před 6 měsíci +7

    This is amazing! Again thank you! ❤
    Edit…fabulous! truly well done!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      You're very welcome, and thank you for saying so. Makes it all worth it when it means something to VH fans.

  • @sweetwilliam5150
    @sweetwilliam5150 Před 6 měsíci +4

    You are killin it with these VH videos. Great job and thank you.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks man - appreciate it. Still love your username 😂

  • @SPJBR
    @SPJBR Před 6 měsíci +8

    Gotta say I LOVE the way you put these together. ✌🏻

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 5 měsíci

      Forgot to write back to this before, but thank you! Much appreciated.

  • @stanmcgee9797
    @stanmcgee9797 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Thanks, Good follow up! Keep em coming... 🙏🎼🎸

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot - I'll try to!

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Excellent…plus quoted sources is a great thing to do too…Plus I’d never heard DLR say he saw Edward as a musical mentor before.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think possibly Ed once said their band were called ‘Bald’ at one point….They briefly became ‘Space Brothers’ because the name Trojan Rubber Company with its associated meaning with contraception offended a Catholic school they were playing in. And earlier ‘the Broken Combs’ was Ed on Piano and Alex on sax playing school assemblies with originals like ‘Rumpus’ and ‘Boogie Booger’…lol😊

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      @@walterevans2118 Yeah there were other band names - "the Sounds of Las Vegas" and "Bauld" were two others. That was confirmed on the tape I got of Alex. I didn't include all of them, because I think most only lasted a few days/weeks. Also, I'd painted myself into a corner with the timing 😉

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I wasn’t sure what ‘a Van Halen was’ myself in the UK in 1978 when I was just 16….lol…At first when I saw their logo and pictures on the front cover of their debut vinyl I thought they were ‘sci-fi rock’ pronounced ‘Van Hallen’ as in the VAN ALLEN BELT around the Earth…Plus on the front cover Edwards B&W striped paint job on what I then assumed to be a Fender Strat looked SO FUTURISTIC & his PLAYING was like nothing on this Earth. I would play Eruption staring at that only one photo I had of Ed imagining what his hands would look like moving on the neck…When he did that low vibrato bar dip before the pause the first time I ever heard it I was terrified because I thought what I was hearing was the belt drive on the vinyl turntable snapping and the mechanism grinding to a halt …lol…Then by the time I peered at the turntable and saw it was still rotating the platter ED was making the guitar neck sound like a Bach Organ…At the time I couldn’t figure out how he was doing that . I wouldn’t find out until a year later seeing VH live at the Rainbow Theatre…But in a ‘Sounds’ uk music newspaper DLR had said of Spanish Fly -‘Ed has a way of playing around with the neck, and at one point you think that the record has gone onto the wrong speed (78 rpm) but this guy does it all LIVE.’ …Actually when I would pronounce the band ‘Van HALLAN ‘ as in Van Allen belt everyone would laugh at me and shout - (it’s ‘Van HALEN’! you fool ! )….but years later I learned that the DUTCH original pronunciation actually IS ‘VAN HALLAN’ …so idiot Evans was right all along 🤔….lol

  • @johgus96jg
    @johgus96jg Před 5 měsíci +1

    I believe David was an integral part to the bands success. Whether he was a good singer or not didn’t matter, he gave the band a swagger and attitude that would help propel them to the top

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Agree. He gave them the drive to succeed too. Alex even admitted this in the 1985 Steve Rosen interview that was recently released. Even though he hated Dave at that point, he still admitted that he and Ed might have been making good music for a small audience if it wasn't for Dave's influence on the band.

    • @johgus96jg
      @johgus96jg Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@iconsremembered I’ve been listening to more interviews from Dave recently, in his older years. The guy is highly intelligent and driven, the kinda guy that goes ”I like that, I want that, I’m gonna go get it”, humble too

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 Před 24 dny

      I believe that you are right.

  • @SquirrelTheater
    @SquirrelTheater Před 3 měsíci

    I’ve been a VH fan since 1979. Very good documentary! 👍🏻😎

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 3 měsíci +1

      If you've been a fan since 1979, then you've probably seen everything, so it means a lot when you say that - thank you!

  • @martinsmith4123
    @martinsmith4123 Před 4 měsíci

    Another awesome episode. Loving these… Keep em coming 🏆🏆🏆

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Sorry about the late reply Martin, but thanks a lot for the kind words again mate. Much appreciated! Same to you with your stuff 👍🏻

  • @JohnnyBeane
    @JohnnyBeane Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great job man!

  • @kristinfield-macumber5899
    @kristinfield-macumber5899 Před 6 měsíci

    Love these videos, especially the inclusion of the real audio! I also like that you're crediting the books that helped you (I have them all and enjoyed them, too).

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot for saying that. Yeah I'm trying to use as much of the real interviews as people will give me permission for/as much I can get away with! It's the best way to tell the story truthfully and with some real atmosphere. Hope you'll enjoy the rest - the next part will be out later this week.

  • @JohnnyBeane
    @JohnnyBeane Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you so much for the thanks! 😊 Glad to help in any way.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      Will get in touch later if you're still interested in doing something for your show 🙂

  • @davidkavanagh9344
    @davidkavanagh9344 Před 6 měsíci +1

    great video again! love the early band names, my favourite being Snake! although it does sound more like an 80s trash metal band!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks Kav! Yeah I love "Snake" as a band name 😁 Actually in the full interview where I got Michael Anthony saying it, he follows it up by sarcastically saying "very original name".

  • @susanpritchard7521
    @susanpritchard7521 Před 2 měsíci

    well presented

  • @danielalkin1182
    @danielalkin1182 Před 6 měsíci

    Another great part Simon😊 Looking forward to the rest of this series!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks Dan 😉 You're my "set-up" audience member who always claps!

    • @danielalkin1182
      @danielalkin1182 Před 6 měsíci

      Haha😄. Well it's genuinely great so not very hard to be enthusiastic

  • @MrMike-fm8bp
    @MrMike-fm8bp Před 6 měsíci +2

    Very well done videos !!

  • @SahiraSound
    @SahiraSound Před 5 měsíci

    Outstanding video production! What we get to see here really puts a lot of the speculation and arbitration to rest. In the voices of the actual band members they acknowledge that the internal tension is what made it work. They were coming from different angles and they needed that to create the magic that they had. If everybody loves the same stuff it's going to be boring. Van Halen was anything but boring. The first six albums sold a combined 60 million copies. And they set the bar for what a rock band should be sonically and aesthetically. People always say Dave had a big ego, but his ego was not so great that he couldn't suggest that the band be named after Alex Van Halen. He didn't say name the band Roth. And you just heard it in his own voice his admiration and respect for Eddie Van Halen's virtuosity is what inspired him to up his own game so that he became the best front man in the business and 99% of rock fans around the world agree he may not have been the most talented vocalist, but he was able to hold his own and be the greatest frontman ever. We don't have to speculate on this, we heard it from them in their own words.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for such a nice and detailed response! I thought that the only way to do this was to use the band's own voices as much as possible to tell the story. I also don't want to offer opinions or conjecture with the voiceover, so that the accounts offered up are as true as possible. Of course things might end up murkier as the band becomes more fractious into the 80s, but when the band talk about their early days, they seem to be on the same page and I genuinely do think they were like a family between 1973-81.
      Dave definitely had a huge ego, and I'm sure he became very difficult to deal with by a certain point, but he's also never ever shied away from giving Ed, Al and Mike their due. Similarly, Ed was by all accounts a sweet guy with a great heart, but he wasn't always perfect.
      The challenge is trying to be honest and tell the truth, whilst not just slaughtering people and giving everyone the huge respect they all deserve.
      Thanks again for your comment 😊

  • @KurtS5150
    @KurtS5150 Před 6 měsíci +1

    great video

  • @harryrobinson212
    @harryrobinson212 Před 6 měsíci

    🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾WELL DONE

  • @X39640
    @X39640 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Where have all the good Times gone

  • @tommybotts
    @tommybotts Před 6 měsíci +5

    Or, they could have taken the 'Salad' off and called themselves Rat Halen.

    • @sflocco1
      @sflocco1 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Woulda been fitting when Hagar joined

  • @johnnymac33
    @johnnymac33 Před 6 měsíci

    Incroyable

  • @KurtS5150
    @KurtS5150 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Rat Salad would have ruined it

  • @mikewright3633
    @mikewright3633 Před 6 měsíci +1

    👍👍👍

  • @ryeguy7471
    @ryeguy7471 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Based on everything I’ve read, I believe Ed’s REAL reason for recruiting Roth was simply because he attracted more women to the gigs.😎

  • @vikingmike8139
    @vikingmike8139 Před 5 měsíci

    EVH

  • @BANONEGuitar
    @BANONEGuitar Před 6 měsíci +2

    There was only one name for Van Halen…Van Halen. :)

  • @Fade2black5150
    @Fade2black5150 Před 6 měsíci

    🤘🏻

  • @aliassmithandjones9453
    @aliassmithandjones9453 Před 5 měsíci

    too many bands named Rat Salad already

  • @tracycase4520
    @tracycase4520 Před 5 měsíci +1

    DLR is the poster boy for fake it till you make it.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 5 měsíci +4

      That's true up to a point. But in fairness, he did make it. He was a really driven individual and no matter how talented Ed and Al were, I do believe that they may never have made it the way they did without someone like Roth.

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 Před 24 dny

      That is a lot of albums sold for someone faking it.

  • @gschaub9
    @gschaub9 Před 5 měsíci

    Camper Van Halen...anybody?

  • @lousekoya1803
    @lousekoya1803 Před 4 měsíci

    Well you have a new sub here from Quebec !