Van Halen Before the Breakthrough | Documentary - "Edward Van Halen: A Musician" (Part 4)

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  • čas přidán 3. 03. 2024
  • An unofficial, fan-made documentary on the life and career of Eddie Van Halen.
    This fourth part covers the completion of the classic Van Halen lineup, as well as the struggles Edward and the band faced before making their breakthrough.
    It features some previously unreleased photos and documents, courtesy of early Van Halen promoter and photographer Daniel Sullivan. An extra special thank you to Daniel for all his help.
    Music by Ceiri Torjussen (under license from Audio Network)
    Thanks (in no particular order) to:
    Alan Berry
    Daniel Sullivan
    Dave Swantek
    Jan Velasco Kosharek
    Julian Pollack
    Jas Obrecht
    Dave & Dave Unchained Podcast
    Adam Roach
    Johnny Beane
    Steve Rosen
    Recommended reading:
    Buy Greg Renoff's Van Halen Rising bitly.ws/3aG7h
    Buy Steve Rosen's Tonechaser (3rd Edition) bitly.ws/3aG8b
    Buy Elizabeth Wiley's Could This Be Magic bitly.ws/3aG7q
    Buy Brad Tolinski and Chris Gill's Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen bit.ly/43nkIOj
    Buy Noel Monk's Runnin' With The Devil bit.ly/3OCElxW
    Buy Paul Brannigan's Eruption: The Eddie Van Halen Story bitly.ws/3aLcP

Komentáře • 72

  • @leadfoot64
    @leadfoot64 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Dude, can't get enough of this stuff. I can't believe it's 2024 and the way things are now.. I remember 1978 like it was yesterday all because of Van Halen. Keep up the great work, I wish there was something I could do to help, it's so great. Subscribed. rip evh.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much for saying all that man. And you're already helping by writing and subscribing 👍🏻 Means a lot 😊

  • @geraldhartley
    @geraldhartley Před 4 měsíci +5

    ⁠​​⁠The production value is TOP shelf. Thank you for the thousands of hours that you’ve put into this. 🙏🙏 I’m sharing with everyone I know.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I really appreciate that man. It is a lot of hours! But totally worth it when people respond like you have. Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @Kinger1625
    @Kinger1625 Před 4 měsíci +5

    This well done! I really enjoyed all of them. ❤

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thanks for that 👍🏻 It's been a lot of work, and still more to come, but comments like this make it worthwhile. Really appreciate it.

  • @JohnnyBeane
    @JohnnyBeane Před 4 měsíci +3

    Watching now!

  • @TimE_5150
    @TimE_5150 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great stuff! Long live the King of swing!!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks! Hope this plays a small part in keeping his memory alive.

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse Před 4 měsíci +12

    Michael Anthony gets beat on a lot by a lot of people and I just don't get it. You take his vocals out and a MASSIVE part of Van Halen dies, it's a secret sauce and it worked with Sammy in Van Halen, too. That chorus in 'Love Walks In'? Crazy good.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Quite simply the greatest backing singer in rock history to me. Worked especially well on the first two albums, but he always had a great range and still does today.

    • @johningham2718
      @johningham2718 Před 4 měsíci

    • @danfoss1535
      @danfoss1535 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Also, you take the guitarist out, it's just not quite the same band

    • @TheCountofToulouse
      @TheCountofToulouse Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@danfoss1535
      Obviously, bro. I'm just saying, as a BAND, Anthony had a great role and his contribution helped the songs.
      Eddie WAS Van Halen, he wrote ALL the songs.

    • @bbtb785
      @bbtb785 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Eddie sang the chorus in Love Walks In as well as Michael.

  • @belotface
    @belotface Před 4 měsíci

    Great Job on this!

  • @bassangler73
    @bassangler73 Před 4 měsíci

    Cool stuff!! Can't wait for the rest of the series!!

  • @paddyn85
    @paddyn85 Před 4 měsíci

    Another belter!

  • @johnnymac33
    @johnnymac33 Před 4 měsíci

    This was great, really enjoying the series so far! Can't wait for the next part 🤘🎸

  • @beverlysmith6539
    @beverlysmith6539 Před 4 měsíci

    This is good! Thank you!

  • @GuitarLessonsMadeEasy
    @GuitarLessonsMadeEasy Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Thanks for sharing it.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thank you very much for saying. It hasn't been easy, especially with views really trailing off recently and me not being able to understand why. But comments like this help keep the motivation up. I appreciate it 😊

  • @km1366
    @km1366 Před 4 měsíci

    Great job. Loving this series

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you! - very glad to hear. Appreciate you letting me know.👍

  • @davidkavanagh9344
    @davidkavanagh9344 Před 4 měsíci

    Great documentary , really looking forward to each new part. Really nice style to it. Incredible persistence from the band to hang in there. Reminds me a little of the Anvil movie, it might be rock n roll, but there is little glamour when you're hustling at the start to get your name out there and keep the dream alive

  • @mroz151
    @mroz151 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Awesome stuff! Please keep going with this! Very well done!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks a lot - I hope to. Working on the fifth part now, which should be out early next week. I might take some break after that, but hope to do more covering the 1978-1984 era, and before that would like to do some extra episodes covering Ed's gear and technique.

  • @danielalkin1182
    @danielalkin1182 Před 4 měsíci

    Another great video Simon😊. Looking forward to the final part of this series.🎉

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks a million Dan 😊 Not sure if the fifth one will be the final part, but it'll be the last one for a little while at least - need a break 😅

  • @edwardskol1812
    @edwardskol1812 Před 4 měsíci

    Very well done! Saw some photos and heard some audio I hadn’t before. Great job pulling it all together into a great narrative!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks again! When the hardcore fans tell me that something is new to them, that's some of the coolest feedback I can get 😊 Really glad you like it 👍🏻

  • @peterzlateff-fh7yt
    @peterzlateff-fh7yt Před 4 měsíci

    Seen all parts up until now and looking forward to more. Please keep doing these. Subscribed.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you for that. I would like to keep doing them, even though views etc. seem to have crashed a bit. Kind words and gestures like yours help a lot though - it means a great deal 👍🏻

  • @kristinfield-macumber5899
    @kristinfield-macumber5899 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love that handwritten note from Dave to collect a payment!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thanks - yeah it's really cool. Huge credit to Daniel Sullivan for that and for some of the previously unseen photos in the episode.

  • @TheTapesArchive
    @TheTapesArchive Před 4 měsíci

    Loving the series so far, so well made. 🍻🤘

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks Alan - means a lot coming from you man 😊

  • @leearmstrong2743
    @leearmstrong2743 Před 4 měsíci

    AWESOME!!!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks - it means a lot cos this one took a lot of work the past week or two. Tell your friends!

  • @kxmrock
    @kxmrock Před 4 měsíci

    Right on , Thx

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_1959 Před 4 měsíci

    Great job on this!👍

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      And thanks for this, it means a lot! One funny thing referring to your username - I heard an interview with Ed from 1980 (two years before Spinal Tap came out), where he talks about turning up to eleven. Probably just coincidence, but who knows if that wasn't the influence for that Nigel Tufnell dialogue?

    • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
      @These_go_to_eleven_1959 Před 4 měsíci

      @@iconsremembered Yeah dave freidman the amp maker tell's how eddie would turn every knob to 10 then still say he wished it had more!🤣
      I am sure Eddie had something to do with the going to 11 reference in that movie.

  • @gumball4338
    @gumball4338 Před 4 měsíci

    Great 🤘

  • @petertornabeni602
    @petertornabeni602 Před 4 měsíci

    Special musicians Mike,Al,Ed,Dave - and yes, Sammy too

  • @LoyalOpposition
    @LoyalOpposition Před 4 měsíci

    I hope there's more.. I love the photos of old newspaper articles! I hope for this to succeed, but will tell you that everyone I know has listened to every Obrecht/Rosen interview, and probably read every book. The more specific (quotes, for example) the better. I've posted this on a few music sites and hope you see a bump today.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the comments - it's all pretty valid. I understand what you mean, and I realise the hardcore fans will have seen/heard most of this. But I am still trying to occasionally uncover something new. And if not, then at least I think there's something valid in arranging and presenting the stuff in (hopefully) a decent way. Aside from some exceptions (especially Alan's 1984 doc), I feel like that hasn't been done enough.
      It's also worth saying that this isn't only aimed at the hardcore fanbase. Of course, I want them to like it, but I hope that this will appeal beyond the long-time fans and be something that can also show and tell newcomers a little about EVH and the band.

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_1959 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Even though i ALWAYS sided with Ed(been a Ed head since 1978) and Alex i still do respect a lot of the things Dave brought to the band and i often wondered? How ego'ed out could he really have been in the earliest days? I mean it was Dave that suggested and was all for naming the Band after the two brothers.
    Egomaniac's do not do something like that because it takes the focus off of them. I think Dave was just a intensely eccentric person who could come off as a jerk
    if you did not get his humor. He certainly is one of a kind you gotta give him that!😁

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +4

      For what it's worth, I completely agree. I'm sure Dave became very difficult to deal with as time went on, but in the early days, I do think there was a sense of "all for one, one for all" about the band. Up until about 1981 or so, I think the band was still mostly a family. Ed said as much in interviews.
      Dave was/is complex, eccentric and not well-adjusted to normal relationships (he's said this himself in interviews), but he was extremely driven and had a grand vision for the band. As much of a genius as Ed was (and Al was very talented too), I do think there's every chance that without Dave, the VH brothers might never have made it.

    • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
      @These_go_to_eleven_1959 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@iconsremembered 👍 That last part i have seriously thought myself. I think it took all of them as a unit for the chemistry that made them
      so sought after.

  • @joannesmith2574
    @joannesmith2574 Před 4 měsíci

    I have really enjoyed watching all 4 parts of this documentary. I listened to your interview about the doc on the Dave and Dave unchained podcast. I am sure that this endeavor is a ton of work on your end. I know we have one more installment to come which I am looking forward to. Have you considered possibly continuing to make more parts beyond part 5 once the band had become successful (past 1978 and their first record)?

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Hi, and thanks for saying all that - really happy to hear. Yeah, I hope to do that, but I guess it depends on a few things - one is that I have to find a way to get permission to use photography of the band without infringing too much on copyrights etc.
      It also depends on whether the audience maintains or keeps growing with these parts - if people stop watching, then I'd have to think about whether it's worth the work. Not financially necessarily (I don't think I'll ever make much or any money out of this), but more that it feels more worth doing if you know there's a public appetite for it and people dig it.
      The final challenge is that it's maybe trickier to cover the years from 1978 without using the music. That's one I really have to think about!
      But in general, I would certainly like to do more. And comments like yours help with the motivation to do it, so thanks again 😊

  • @johnfletcher948
    @johnfletcher948 Před 4 měsíci

    BRAVO!!! STELLAR!!!

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Wow, thank you for that! Can't get over how positive the comments are sometimes, but it means a lot 😊

    • @johnfletcher948
      @johnfletcher948 Před 4 měsíci

      @@iconsremembered Beautifully put together with perfect pictures, audio and editing. I hope you continue at least through the Diamond Dave years including A Different Kind Of Truth 2012!

  • @johnfletcher948
    @johnfletcher948 Před 4 měsíci

    SWEET JESUS!!!

  • @robhasenwinkle
    @robhasenwinkle Před 4 měsíci

    Will there be anymore of these episodes?

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Hi, yes I'm working on part 5 at the moment. Hoping to have it out by Tuesday or Wednesday this coming week. That'll be the end of this initial run covering the early years, but I'm intending to do more after a short break.

    • @robhasenwinkle
      @robhasenwinkle Před 4 měsíci

      @@iconsremembered man you are awesome, thank you for doing this.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@robhasenwinkle Really appreciate that man. It's a lot of work, but really motivating when people like it. I'll keep going as long as I can 👍🏻

  • @vikingmike8139
    @vikingmike8139 Před 4 měsíci

    EVH

  • @toddjanney
    @toddjanney Před 4 měsíci

    He didn't graduate High School I heard he got kicked out over drugs.

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci +2

      He's definitely said in an interview with Jas Obrecht that he got kicked out of school for smoking pot, but I think he was talking about junior high. I'm quite certain he graduated from PHS. His graduation photo (two versions of which are used in this part) is there in the 1973 yearbook.

    • @toddjanney
      @toddjanney Před 4 měsíci

      @@iconsremembered Thank you !

  • @steveinmidtown
    @steveinmidtown Před 4 měsíci

    OK...maybe this has been asked but why in the hell is Roth missing teeth?

    • @iconsremembered
      @iconsremembered  Před 4 měsíci

      Think he says in that Joe Rogan interview that it happened falling off his bike. It's weird in that clip - he looks really unkempt compared to normal. Seems a little better lately though.

  • @petervandebor1828
    @petervandebor1828 Před 3 měsíci

    EDWARD WAS IS AND STAY THE BEST,, BUT I HAD A VISION FROM THE AFTERLIFE THAT EDWARDS GIFT GO ON ,ON WOLFGANG, SO WE WILL HERE HEAR MORE VAN HALEN, I HOPE WOLFGANG WILL DO SOME WITH MY PALL ALEX VAN HALEN. JUST FOR THE LOVE OF THAT SUPER OCTOPUS DRUMMER, THE ALEX AND WOLF PROJECT HOLLAND LOVE VANHALEN AFZ. BOR777 ❤❤❤