I think an absolute must have for the deck is Sludge Monster, which was just printed in Midnight Hunt. Not only does it also distribute slime counters, but it makes all (non-horror) creatures with slime counters on them 2/2 with no abilities. Absolutely crazy to have this out with your Toxrill.
@@fallendeus Must've forgotten about the card, as it isn't in the decklist either. But as a deckbuilder myself, I can't really blame him. It's really not the kind of card you can look for effectively, either you know of it beforehand, or you'll probably miss it.
@@dysfunctionalfuk Pretty sure it wasn't in back when I made my first comment. The list was edited 7 hours ago though, about the same time I posted my original comment, so Demo might've added it in the meantime for all the viewers that want to build the deck themselves.
@@mateocossani8231 In a similar vein though, you could weaken something larger to make it easier to kill. It is 5cmc though, so that does hamper it a little bit.
@@mateocossani8231 Yeah, but it also makes all the opponents creatures lose their abilities and brings them down in power (possibly). Non-targeted ability removal is rare, and non-targeted asymmetrical ability removal... well i'm not sure if their are cards that combo to do that aside from these two.
I think aside from the missing Sludge Monster, you should capitalise on creatures dying with Syr Konrad, Blood Artist, Bastion of remembrance, etc. That damage will stack up very quickly.
Another key for the deck is that it plays Blue, so you can protect your 7 cost commander when you cast it. (Counter spells) If you slam it as soon as you have 7 mana it could get countered or killed by 2 CMC spell, putting you behind.
Add a bunch of ways to keep Tox in play, counters, boots, enchants. Also instead of going slug tribal there's a lot of great Blue/Black horror's to add.
Another 2 cards really good for that deck is urborg, tomb of yagmoth turning all lands into swamps, locking your opponent out of game if they aren’t running a swamp deck and for a later combo, when u draw kormus bell it makes all swamps a 1/1 meaning they lose all their land at your end step, and also making it so if they are playing swamp it don’t matter
I know I'm a year late to this comment, but Urborg doesn't turn your opponents lands into swamps exclusively, it adds swamp to their type and lets it tap for black mana. It doesn't prevent the lands from functioning as normal like a blood moon would.
Id definitely recommend counters (obviously) but blue has a lot of cards like Lazotep Plating, which gives your creatures hexproof at instant speed. Id imagine those can find a home with toxrill
he def is, i have a jank build for him. its sadly really gimicky. because yea you can get him out super early long before a 7th turn, but ALOT is probaly going to be going on by turn 5 and 6. Turn 5 win cons are common, then you need another few cycles around the table for him to really put in work, now its turn 10 or 11 where people can easily win with just their mana and from hand.
I just finished my Kothophed deck last week and it basically does the same thing as this deck with giving your opponents tokens and treasures. Tombstone Stairwell is simply amazing! I'm tempted to run the slug, but I really like my borderline suicide demon deck.
You could use that yawgmoth land which makes all lands into swamps, then turn all swamps into 1/1 creatures with kormus bell, then play your commander and on your end step all your opponents lands leave play as they are also 1/1 creatures.
Dreadfeast Demon is also a pretty interesting include. 6/6 flyer for 7, and at the end of your turn, sacrifice a non-demon (you will sac a slug) for a copy of the card. If it sticks for a while, you can get a big board of big flying demons.
Seems cool but I really didn't see much for keeping Toxrill safe. I mean the entire deck revolves around his slow poisoning effect and he generates huge value I feel like everyone else will be trying to snipe him as soon as they possibly can. And even with just one death he's already up to costing 9 to bring out which is crazy.
Yeah you need to add a good amount of protection s with counter spells enchantments. That give hex proof regeneration and indistructeble. He might be better as a 4 to 5 color deck with coma and alot of tutors and draw specific cards. But if you do it right it's gonna slap cheeks.
Not slow because everyone end step is another counter 1 full turn it's -4-4. But I do suggest having protection before you decide to pump him out. Or him out really early with the right lands like sol ring etc. and having the protection you need. Also could add win con with poison counters and a good amount of proliferation. The are not gonna be playing creatures knowing they are just gonna die so ur poison is open for business
I was wondering about how you think the format would warp if all Planeswalkers (with the exception of too powerful ones that are also banned in other formats) were allowed as commanders like they are in MTGAs version of commander format. Perhaps this could be an interesting topic for a video. Keep up the good work.
Well with a playgroup that has grist and recently allowed arlyn these some planeswalker are not broken or anything. Buuut the playpattern they create can become quite frustrating as it often just becomes hit the planeswalker for 10 turnrotations.
I’ve built a lovecraftian theme deck and I’m excited to throw this in there (already has this in there) and umbris. It runs wrexial now but I switch lazav, dimir mastermind from time to time. Might use this too. Hell I even want to make a deck for this too but I think I’ll have it settle into lovecraftian horrors
Just wanted to point out that revel in riches is super strong in a prosper deck. I've won many games off it because it's super easy to have more than ten treasures in that deck
i wonder if they are planning on slime in the future because in the entire history of magic, toxril and sludge monster are the only creatures involving slime counters. only 2 seems odd.
I'm a big fan of Tombstone Stairwell, and I wouldn't add it to this deck. It could give too much advantage to the opponent each turn, and since the tokens have haste, they could just hit you
The deck is cool but the moment i get Toxrill down, it is just removed on spot every time. Ive played maybe 10 games of edh on mtgo with it and ive only had it go off maybe once. The mana cost on Toxrill is so high.
welcome to the commander format. if your commander has a blue pip in it's text box, as toxrill does, it's included in the color identity of your deck. this is why ramos is a 5 color commander. edhrec.com/commanders/ramos-dragon-engine
I run Revel in Riches in my Glissa the Traitor deck, and the one time I’ve won with it was with enough mana to cast and recur Mind Slaver three times while I had the treasures, that was fun
@@edhdeckbuilding I guess, but still it's your opponents' lands not yours that get obliterated with Toxrill at end of your turn if the Bell is on the table.
No Mass Diminish? Turn all opponents creatures into 1/1 until your next turn with Flashback... Metallic Mimic will put +1/+1 counter whenever a slug comes into play or Coat of Arms Maskwood Nexus, Arcane Adaption, Conspiracy makes all your creatures slugs Clone it with Sakashima, Spark Double Toxrill looks fun for Volrath Shapestealer ;p
Ah yep but I thought since other cards that apply targeted -1-1 counters and also auras you can buff opponents creatures and steal them was my thoughts. But as you want them to die so you make slugs I can see where I went wrong. I'm a total thief in mtg and was just running with that thought. I've been caught out with that not targeting problem before plenty of times. Same old mistakes, always learning :)
I think an absolute must have for the deck is Sludge Monster, which was just printed in Midnight Hunt. Not only does it also distribute slime counters, but it makes all (non-horror) creatures with slime counters on them 2/2 with no abilities. Absolutely crazy to have this out with your Toxrill.
Not sure why he didn't mention that... The cards were obviously printed to work together.
@@fallendeus Must've forgotten about the card, as it isn't in the decklist either. But as a deckbuilder myself, I can't really blame him. It's really not the kind of card you can look for effectively, either you know of it beforehand, or you'll probably miss it.
Sludge Monster is in the list.
@@dysfunctionalfuk Pretty sure it wasn't in back when I made my first comment. The list was edited 7 hours ago though, about the same time I posted my original comment, so Demo might've added it in the meantime for all the viewers that want to build the deck themselves.
Sludge monster is an auto-include for sure
Surprised Sludge Monster isn’t in your decklist.
Def going in mine.
geez this one is like auto include
It makes many of the 1/1 into 2/2. Maybe thats why
@@mateocossani8231 In a similar vein though, you could weaken something larger to make it easier to kill. It is 5cmc though, so that does hamper it a little bit.
@@mateocossani8231 Yeah, but it also makes all the opponents creatures lose their abilities and brings them down in power (possibly). Non-targeted ability removal is rare, and non-targeted asymmetrical ability removal... well i'm not sure if their are cards that combo to do that aside from these two.
I think aside from the missing Sludge Monster, you should capitalise on creatures dying with Syr Konrad, Blood Artist, Bastion of remembrance, etc. That damage will stack up very quickly.
Awesome deck! Clackbridge Troll would be a nice addition ;)
Another key for the deck is that it plays Blue, so you can protect your 7 cost commander when you cast it. (Counter spells) If you slam it as soon as you have 7 mana it could get countered or killed by 2 CMC spell, putting you behind.
You know that a channel is good when their intro music makes you know the video is going to be elite
Real missed opportunity by Wizards to make it a symmetrical effect for the best group slug commander
Add a bunch of ways to keep Tox in play, counters, boots, enchants. Also instead of going slug tribal there's a lot of great Blue/Black horror's to add.
Another 2 cards really good for that deck is urborg, tomb of yagmoth turning all lands into swamps, locking your opponent out of game if they aren’t running a swamp deck and for a later combo, when u draw kormus bell it makes all swamps a 1/1 meaning they lose all their land at your end step, and also making it so if they are playing swamp it don’t matter
I know I'm a year late to this comment, but Urborg doesn't turn your opponents lands into swamps exclusively, it adds swamp to their type and lets it tap for black mana. It doesn't prevent the lands from functioning as normal like a blood moon would.
Awesome vid! I would add polymorphist’s jest to wipe an opponent’s board!
You somehow find a way to make even the derpiest commanders look super fun and exciting to play. Bravo sir
I feel like this commander is far from derpy.
the urborg and kormus bell combo for this deck is so mean
I so want a Toxrill commander deck. Nothing says salty like destroying all lands.
This is a really good deck tech
but i say you need a little more protection for toxrill because lets face it its gonna be a lightning rod for removal
Definitely agree, the analogy to Koma is a decent one but Koma has multiple protections built in where as Toxrill has none.
Soo Malakir Rebirth? Kaya's Ghostform, Supernatural Stamina? Maybe Reanimation spells?
Id definitely recommend counters (obviously) but blue has a lot of cards like Lazotep Plating, which gives your creatures hexproof at instant speed. Id imagine those can find a home with toxrill
he def is, i have a jank build for him. its sadly really gimicky. because yea you can get him out super early long before a 7th turn, but ALOT is probaly going to be going on by turn 5 and 6. Turn 5 win cons are common, then you need another few cycles around the table for him to really put in work, now its turn 10 or 11 where people can easily win with just their mana and from hand.
@@bennycostello2472 may I ask how many lands you are running on the deck?
This reminds me of Massacre worm which makes me happy. And dimir at that.
I just finished my Kothophed deck last week and it basically does the same thing as this deck with giving your opponents tokens and treasures. Tombstone Stairwell is simply amazing! I'm tempted to run the slug, but I really like my borderline suicide demon deck.
Very brave with smothering tithe being so popular lol
You could use that yawgmoth land which makes all lands into swamps, then turn all swamps into 1/1 creatures with kormus bell, then play your commander and on your end step all your opponents lands leave play as they are also 1/1 creatures.
Then all your opponents would also leave play. Mass land destruction sucks.
That sounds mean i like it
Then you kill them all with the slugs you make from destroying all their lands lol the game would be over quick, no need to be salty.
I figured infernal Genesis would be featured on this channel eventually :^ )
Is this...Dimir group hug?? Or should I say, group SLUG??? (I'll see myself out. Great decktech.)
Perfect Timing! Thanks Demo!
Sadistic Glee is really good in this as well +1/+1 counter whenever ANY creature dies
Ayara, First of Locthwain would also be a must for this commander.
Forbidden Orchard to give out more 1/1s
mystic reflection it's actually insane in this deck.
Dreadfeast Demon is also a pretty interesting include. 6/6 flyer for 7, and at the end of your turn, sacrifice a non-demon (you will sac a slug) for a copy of the card. If it sticks for a while, you can get a big board of big flying demons.
Seems cool but I really didn't see much for keeping Toxrill safe. I mean the entire deck revolves around his slow poisoning effect and he generates huge value I feel like everyone else will be trying to snipe him as soon as they possibly can. And even with just one death he's already up to costing 9 to bring out which is crazy.
Yeah you need to add a good amount of protection s with counter spells enchantments. That give hex proof regeneration and indistructeble. He might be better as a 4 to 5 color deck with coma and alot of tutors and draw specific cards. But if you do it right it's gonna slap cheeks.
Not slow because everyone end step is another counter 1 full turn it's -4-4. But I do suggest having protection before you decide to pump him out. Or him out really early with the right lands like sol ring etc. and having the protection you need. Also could add win con with poison counters and a good amount of proliferation. The are not gonna be playing creatures knowing they are just gonna die so ur poison is open for business
I play this guy in my Old Stickfingers deck, but I'm strongly considering giving him his own deck because DAMN
Skullclamp would be MONSTROUS in this deck. Instead of paying BU to draw one card, you can pay 1 to draw two cards!
what a fantastic list. this sounds absolutely brutal to play against!
Darn, commander can play those awesome cards. I will have died 3 times by the turn I am able to cast this in my legacy group.
When you said Infernal Genesis I smiled
I've been looking to build dimir control for a while now. I got so pumped when toxrill was revealed.
Lazav wants a word with you.
Wow. This looks like so much fun.
I was wondering about how you think the format would warp if all Planeswalkers (with the exception of too powerful ones that are also banned in other formats) were allowed as commanders like they are in MTGAs version of commander format. Perhaps this could be an interesting topic for a video. Keep up the good work.
I'd love to be able to run planeswalkers as commanders. There's a tezzeret that makes etherium cells I'd love to run as a commander.
If I can’t have oko I’m out
Well with a playgroup that has grist and recently allowed arlyn these some planeswalker are not broken or anything. Buuut the playpattern they create can become quite frustrating as it often just becomes hit the planeswalker for 10 turnrotations.
Very cool deck tech
I have a clue /treasure deck with Ramos Dragon engine, and it has had won a time or two with revel in riches.
I’ve built a lovecraftian theme deck and I’m excited to throw this in there (already has this in there) and umbris. It runs wrexial now but I switch lazav, dimir mastermind from time to time. Might use this too. Hell I even want to make a deck for this too but I think I’ll have it settle into lovecraftian horrors
Heartless Summoning could be interesting here, especially with species specialist
it will kill all your slugs
Mass.
Diminish.
Priest of the forgotten god. Trade 2 slugs for 3 plus 2 man and a draw
My table all agreed to build animal tribal decks
( pick an animal stick to it religously)
I chose slugs.
No mention of kormus bell?
Just wanted to point out that revel in riches is super strong in a prosper deck. I've won many games off it because it's super easy to have more than ten treasures in that deck
i wonder if they are planning on slime in the future because in the entire history of magic, toxril and sludge monster are the only creatures involving slime counters. only 2 seems odd.
I didn't even see the activated ability! I thought it was a mono black card
Lifeline seems like it could be good
I'm a big fan of Tombstone Stairwell, and I wouldn't add it to this deck. It could give too much advantage to the opponent each turn, and since the tokens have haste, they could just hit you
The deck is cool but the moment i get Toxrill down, it is just removed on spot every time. Ive played maybe 10 games of edh on mtgo with it and ive only had it go off maybe once. The mana cost on Toxrill is so high.
Try hexproof and/or indestructible artifacts or enchantments that you can cast for 1 mana or with an alternative cost. Also counter spells help a lot
How about Urborg Land that turns all lands into swamps and Kormus Bell?
Kormus bell + urborg = gg
Please do runo next! I wanna see what you can put together for our boi
Just wondering isn’t it illegal to build a deck around toxrill with blue colour cards in it since slug boy is only black?
welcome to the commander format. if your commander has a blue pip in it's text box, as toxrill does, it's included in the color identity of your deck. this is why ramos is a 5 color commander. edhrec.com/commanders/ramos-dragon-engine
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Kromus Bell would destroy all opponents lands.
I'm taking a lot of slug stuff from Zedruu and making group slug with this 😤
Can't wait to play urborg / kormus bell with this commander just to fight back against other rude decks lol
I personally play it in my Elesh Norn deck. If they dont counter the bell, the creatures die to sba’s and cant be protected
Slug tribal!!!
Kormus Bell + Urborg = no lands and all slugs
ill ask again, whats the full intro song|?
I run Revel in Riches in my Glissa the Traitor deck, and the one time I’ve won with it was with enough mana to cast and recur Mind Slaver three times while I had the treasures, that was fun
Don't forget about Kormus Bell. 4 mana artifact. All Swamps are 1/1 black creatures that are still lands. You're welcome.
yes i had thought of that. but you need to make your opponents lands into swamps and your swamps then become vulnerable.
@@edhdeckbuilding Do they though? Toxrill only affects creatures you don't control.
but you lands still die to any other creature removal. like any boardwipe your opponents cast.
@@edhdeckbuilding I guess, but still it's your opponents' lands not yours that get obliterated with Toxrill at end of your turn if the Bell is on the table.
If you wanna be mean: Kormus Bell + Urborg
No Mass Diminish? Turn all opponents creatures into 1/1 until your next turn with Flashback...
Metallic Mimic will put +1/+1 counter whenever a slug comes into play or Coat of Arms
Maskwood Nexus, Arcane Adaption, Conspiracy makes all your creatures slugs
Clone it with Sakashima, Spark Double
Toxrill looks fun for Volrath Shapestealer ;p
yeah that would be a good fit. i just made a skeleton ship deck just like that and i didn't want to just repeat everything.
I rly like Toxrill, but it feels to similar to my Grismold deck, so i probably wont build it
For the record, I have actually won a game with Revel in Riches.
Kaervek, the spiteful can be instresting in this deck?
but it will kill all your slugs
Uh willbreaker...???
this doesn't really do anything in the deck as toxrill's ability doesn't target.
Ah yep but I thought since other cards that apply targeted -1-1 counters and also auras you can buff opponents creatures and steal them was my thoughts. But as you want them to die so you make slugs I can see where I went wrong. I'm a total thief in mtg and was just running with that thought. I've been caught out with that not targeting problem before plenty of times. Same old mistakes, always learning :)
Fun fact: if you have infinite mana you draw your deck
Yes you do
how does that work?
@@thecozypainter Play your commander, sac it cause it’s a slug to draw a card, put it in the comandzone and repeat loo
@@LouisKing995 yeah I realized that it didn't exclude himself from the sacrifice after I posted that lol. Thanks!