@@Dremons7 take in considertion the troll skill, if AW use magnetic field, troll will net then chen and other neutrals can go inside magnetic field, aw cant go outside that quick coz of penitence.
Ive seen it happen 2-3 times in divine bracket last few months and it absolutely destroyes everything.. early mid Tower, early rosh, early wraith pact and early HG.. its rly good if you know how to Chen
ofc different strreamers different reactions, ppl would watch topson ppl would watch gorrc mason for different reason, topson talk rarely while gorp and mason interacts with viewers
Only thing i could think he could once he sees it is a mid chen is swap out with dawn, zues or sven. I dont know which of those heros would be better against a GM mid chen player but 1 of them would be. maybe they would just try to nuke the wave out and keep chen at bay. its hard because you have to contest bottle runes, unless the pos 4 or 5 just makes the sacrifice comes mid to refresh mid with mangos or do the bottle refresh. Seems hard for most heros to stop him without any additional support.
Yeah, arc warden got countered really hard by Chen. Arc got no utility against crowd in the early game and flux is pretty much useless here even though it's the only utility you have to create an opportunity to make a counter play.
Its not really OP actually, chen just a natural enemy of arc warden.. A hero like arc warden (who cant jungle until you have maelstrom), fighting chen who has neutral creeps with bonus HP and damage + penitence for atk spd is very overwhelming.. How do u kill chen if u cant even use your spark wraith and flux, you cant even kill one neutral yourself..
Never played against Chen mid as Arc, but yeah it seems awful to try to play against. Lycan and Lone Druid feel like insta losses to me, their "creeps" just have too much HP to take down. Invoker isn't so bad, coz his Forge Spirit can be killed, Brood is annoying but not the worst since you can usually dodge her and go jungle by 6. Meepo isn't awful since he has to put his hero in danger of death to dive you. Naga's also a pain coz she just straight up ignores you and farms hella fast before you even get midas. I guess people hate Arc because when he's last picked, you can't really crush him mid without one of those heroes, without Arc stepping real far out of position.
@@gutenman7112 Chen can't win Lina anyway or TA that two Hero need Laning and pretty good at clearing Lane at lvl 3 , that two Hero is just painfull for Chen player i played Chen as 4 and try harras Pos 5 Lina it just like giving him free gold
early game chen is strong because of the number of neutral creep you get at lv7 and they hit hard but once the game hit mid game where enemy can just straight up kill ur creeps you'll feel chen underwhelming, unlike enchantress where you can protect ur creep by hitting them with impetus
@@superitgel1 don't make much of a diff in crucial team fights but it does take down towers fast and rosh but that's all chen has to offer they unless you have a WD ward on ur team
If you are 0/4 on mid with no tower, and chen is dominating the game completlty, it's really hard to recovery from a game like this, mainly as arc warden which really needs at least midas and maelstrom asap.
@@passerbeta2298 I mean, the main part of Chen even as a support when it comes to the mid-late game is aura and tower push. It's hard to play against Chen when he's ahead due to the deathball potential they have
Don't forget 120 as for every unit who attacks a target with penitence applied, even towers, ss wards, veno wards and the most broken wd ult. No DMG amp tho...
Nowadays everyone who suck say this. No hero is broken. You are just too bad to counter. Dota needs team play. This guy had no vision and no calling for help ofcourse he will get stomped
If he use the 3rd skill ahead of his path, he can slow centaur or hellbear He has lot of mana to work with plus he has bottle, and probably ask his soft support to babysit him until he become lvl 6
Chen is the most wise character, he understand every jungle creep ability and how to use it properly, his wise is on another lvl, bcuz him i read every creeps ability too but fuck it i was having a bad team
Point is that they need to be mid.In this case none of radiant hereos could lane against him.Mb downbreaker but then you have already lost at that point
@@phunweng962 eerrr what if Chen tame three stunner? The centaur, the creep who can net you and the golem who can throw rocks at you, basically she lose.
this is how it felt when you went pugna mid v nigma - what goes around ;) The way to deal with it is cleave btw and you have a sven - if he rotate mid to help you with a stun then you do fine.
here comes chen mid to my pubs
It’s legit if you know how to play Chen, for the other 99.999% of players it’s garbage.
@@0xConfused true that, i am a little slow with fingers and could NVR get hold over that hero tbh, it's just too much for my brain
it's only viable early game either finish the game in 25mins before enemy can just straight up farm ur creep
Yeah SEA server is da best
here comes the sheeps
1:13 topson just saying he's dead with a straight face while the whole squad rolls up on him is hilarious
holy shit that was funny ;D
@Will and Neil Adventures you have never once been to a hood
tilted literally right after the first range creep is taken
LMAO
he could have skilled bubble and bottle and lived
Why did i loled so much. Topson takes it like a pro srsly
That chen is just so good.
Honestly i can't think of a way to counter it myself at this early game.
@@DedeJasindra he would have stalled longer with magnetic field though
@@Dremons7 if he goes magnetic field, for sure that chen will adjust his neutral creeps and get a troll for net, or mud golem
@@betmalingan9560 ye but chen is ranged and one of his creeps too, troll is also ranged
@@Dremons7 take in considertion the troll skill, if AW use magnetic field, troll will net then chen and other neutrals can go inside magnetic field, aw cant go outside that quick coz of penitence.
This is the dialogue I have with myself every single game 😂
Yup
Yea u just suck then lol 😂 the inner dialogue should be more like... there is many ways to improve my play and my hero is so broken when i do this etc
@@jungyo8417 yeah you sound like a trash player who finally figured out a hero so you think you are the best lol
If that was gorc he would be like “I FUCKING LOVE SMURFS”
Gorgc is not a two time b2b ti winner he can say that
Topson cant
At this level, you can’t even say
He is a Smurf
Ahh the rush that kid must've felt owning Topson. Priceless
He’s literally playing Chen if you can’t outlast hit anyone as core Chen you should delete dota literally double the attack damage as enemy with creep
@@KidTrigger Whats ur mmr kid?
@@hieroprotoganist3440 11k
He must play against pros all the time lol
@@KidTrigger are u 1k atleast?
Вот она, истинная сила БОБИ!
Вот что значит поговорка:" Я на Чене - враги на члене"
боби центр
Ive seen it happen 2-3 times in divine bracket last few months and it absolutely destroyes everything.. early mid Tower, early rosh, early wraith pact and early HG.. its rly good if you know how to Chen
Singsing be like: wrong neighbourhood mf!
Topson finally feels what he made liquid go through
Picking Chen play mid on Archon rank, you know how much curse words you would receive.
🤣🤣
🤣
Because You won't play Chen like this
@@ArcadeTVx HHAHAHAH
>plays arc warden
>calls other heroes broken
yeah 47% wr imba
i just randomly recommended this and I was like shit that's OP but realised that's not possible anymore cos the small camps not in mid now
@@randomguy2108 still good. He was stealing range creeps anyway. You only miss the first ghost
@@godhero2566 yeah true but can't get early kills without the slows I guess
any micro hero counters arc warden.. its not like AW is bad just get countered. and yeah at this time video was uploaded, chen zoo strat is broken af
Imagine if it was gorgc or mason who's in Topson's position. Just imagine the malding, the shouting JEEZ!
ofc different strreamers different reactions, ppl would watch topson ppl would watch gorrc mason for different reason, topson talk rarely while gorp and mason interacts with viewers
yeah people have different personalities. who could've guessed?
@@sunsszs idk man, I don't think shouting/malding is a healthy way to interact with your viewers
@@encyclopedia4768 jeez!!!
@@encyclopedia4768 Well maybe not healthy, but a lot of people are watching because of malding :D
Chen has been a Gigachad ever since the neutral creep update
i went for a walk at 2am. took a shower.. watched this and i feel the best ive ever felt
Only thing i could think he could once he sees it is a mid chen is swap out with dawn, zues or sven. I dont know which of those heros would be better against a GM mid chen player but 1 of them would be. maybe they would just try to nuke the wave out and keep chen at bay. its hard because you have to contest bottle runes, unless the pos 4 or 5 just makes the sacrifice comes mid to refresh mid with mangos or do the bottle refresh. Seems hard for most heros to stop him without any additional support.
Yeah, arc warden got countered really hard by Chen. Arc got no utility against crowd in the early game and flux is pretty much useless here even though it's the only utility you have to create an opportunity to make a counter play.
I like women I’m straight I’m 11k immortal your 1k herald
@@KidTrigger more like, you're 11k pounds
@@Vandalgia no I’m 11k mmr not 11k pound. Your 11k pounds and 1k mmr
@@KidTrigger Your mom is 11k pound
@@KidTrigger you're* stop playing dota and finish your homework kid.
the guy just gave topson a new mid hero 😂
Its not really OP actually, chen just a natural enemy of arc warden.. A hero like arc warden (who cant jungle until you have maelstrom), fighting chen who has neutral creeps with bonus HP and damage + penitence for atk spd is very overwhelming.. How do u kill chen if u cant even use your spark wraith and flux, you cant even kill one neutral yourself..
exactly... Chen isn't an obvious counter because of course Arc is late game hero but early game Chen can stomp Arc's weakness
and arc has one of lowest move speed so he can’t run away
Never played against Chen mid as Arc, but yeah it seems awful to try to play against. Lycan and Lone Druid feel like insta losses to me, their "creeps" just have too much HP to take down. Invoker isn't so bad, coz his Forge Spirit can be killed, Brood is annoying but not the worst since you can usually dodge her and go jungle by 6. Meepo isn't awful since he has to put his hero in danger of death to dive you. Naga's also a pain coz she just straight up ignores you and farms hella fast before you even get midas.
I guess people hate Arc because when he's last picked, you can't really crush him mid without one of those heroes, without Arc stepping real far out of position.
chen dominate every hero that has to lane . early-mid game anyways . the only downside is he doesnt scale that well .
@@gutenman7112 Chen can't win Lina anyway or TA that two Hero need Laning and pretty good at clearing Lane at lvl 3 , that two Hero is just painfull for Chen player i played Chen as 4 and try harras Pos 5 Lina it just like giving him free gold
early game chen is strong because of the number of neutral creep you get at lv7 and they hit hard but once the game hit mid game where enemy can just straight up kill ur creeps you'll feel chen underwhelming, unlike enchantress where you can protect ur creep by hitting them with impetus
Chen can get ancients tho
@@superitgel1 don't make much of a diff in crucial team fights but it does take down towers fast and rosh but that's all chen has to offer they unless you have a WD ward on ur team
If you are 0/4 on mid with no tower, and chen is dominating the game completlty, it's really hard to recovery from a game like this, mainly as arc warden which really needs at least midas and maelstrom asap.
Chen can just get aura items will just snowball and end the game
@@passerbeta2298 I mean, the main part of Chen even as a support when it comes to the mid-late game is aura and tower push. It's hard to play against Chen when he's ahead due to the deathball potential they have
That chen is Kid Trigger's 11k Smurf account.
I like that Kid Trigger is catching on. He did a lot of flaming on YT comments to get the recognition. Admire the hustle
Yes, it is broken. Imagine you can control 3 neutral creeps early game lmao you can literally melt the tower.
they are also slightly stronger thna regular creeps.
@yongga ap and that annoying NC that summon skeleton that deals a crazy amount of damage
Don't forget 120 as for every unit who attacks a target with penitence applied, even towers, ss wards, veno wards and the most broken wd ult.
No DMG amp tho...
@yongga ap you are overthinking and its fucking cringe
Nowadays everyone who suck say this. No hero is broken. You are just too bad to counter. Dota needs team play. This guy had no vision and no calling for help ofcourse he will get stomped
And here I thought Arc Warden is the broken one lol.
you know shit is real when topson said I'm tilted at min 1
We all learned a lesson: Doenst matter who you are and how good you are too, you aways be able to be defeated for someone else.
Facts 100% there is still someone will bypass your skill
Guy who can annoy topson. Must be skilled
Chen with his creep
Ogre with Midas : Hehehe boi
Chen is really good for non-mobility heroes especially at early game
Loool. I legit spend 6 years using gms before finally getting serum. I was making blown out saw softs and exporting them to Edison
Awesome, i love chen mains *q*
and topson takes it like a champ :3
1:08 arc warden laughed at what topson said, he laugh like "haha! that will be bullshit experience haha!"
Everyone’s a gangsta until “Боби” shows up
I love how he keep maxing flux in a lane where it's completely useless, nice adaptation.
What else is he gonna max out buddy? Bubble 😂😂
What else is he gonna max out buddy? Bubble 😂😂
@@gamingpurpose27 yea, who doesn't like bubbles xD
From I wanna play Chen because of this guy to I'm dead guys hahaha
That escalated quickly.
Chen feels like one champ with a lot of cc with his army of mob
3 dead, lost the tower and can't even get a boot in just 6 mins. This is absolutely devastating.
Dread it. Run from it. Боби центр still arrives.
Alright, and where's the clip of Topson playing Chen next?
Well, Topson has prize on his head every time the queues.
If he use the 3rd skill ahead of his path, he can slow centaur or hellbear
He has lot of mana to work with plus he has bottle, and probably ask his soft support to babysit him until he become lvl 6
Chen is the most wise character, he understand every jungle creep ability and how to use it properly, his wise is on another lvl, bcuz him i read every creeps ability too but fuck it i was having a bad team
you are wise
Стоит в миду без вижина, не рашит сапог, юзлесс ботл вместо фаст мидаса против чена чтоб жрать сразу два его крипа. Это точно топсон?
"now i wanna play chen after watching this guy" XD
This hero has been broken since Ti1, Tapsen my man.
Would doom be good vs Chen mid?
Basically early game hero vs late game hero on mid, he really can't win that with arc
Miracle quadrupled rampage game
that's just the old broodmother
Most of the problems would seize to exist only with having boots...
Bobby the Legend
always nice to see a arc warden getting destroyed
Full vid pls, did got his revenge late game?
He lost. It's a pretty old game. Around 2 or 3 months old
Did he win this game?
Is pl good against arc mid ?
i love topson's silence :)
Been playing Chen mid for a while. Easily countered with aoe dmg and heroes like enchantress
Enchantress or leshrac wtf
Point is that they need to be mid.In this case none of radiant hereos could lane against him.Mb downbreaker but then you have already lost at that point
Cm vs chen for extra weirdness,,that creep will be useless
@@bigonicha3225 cm is pretty good against chen
@@phunweng962 eerrr what if Chen tame three stunner? The centaur, the creep who can net you and the golem who can throw rocks at you, basically she lose.
if you play chen like this you either win early or have a medusa for late game
It’s so broken (c) the guy playing arc
Bobi the Legend doesn’t play around
It feels so good watching him getting trolled after everything he has done in the past
? Clown
Bro crying for something that didnt even happend to him years ago
Typical Twitter user.
This is how smart Topson is though. He's full health and already knows he's dead based on his situation. That is just nuts to me.
Lol its common sense having no boots ,far from towers and getting speed reduce and chen is chasing you with lots of creeps
Chen is also good as an offlane.
Early game chen is really strong, specially someone with micro skills, you just need to survive and expect to lose 2 towers.
The chen is just that good
may have to go another route.
Now chen is being use in the tournament
What can I do?
Aaa...buy boots??!
Topson getting Topsonned
Nice one Chen 😆🔥
who won this game?
He is giving Topson idea🤣🤣
Chen is not broken the guy is!
At least he add the TI8 and 9 to his 7k bank account😂😂😂
Боби?
when you want to play dota but your enemy is top ladder warcraft 3
Ah yeah the old Chen build T,T from dota 1.
sh1tsons tears of despair lmaooooo
Not everyday you see chen mid
boots + windlace + plant 3 brancehs: exist
cryson: 👁👄👁
If you're the best micro player Chen is insane.
this is how it felt when you went pugna mid v nigma - what goes around ;) The way to deal with it is cleave btw and you have a sven - if he rotate mid to help you with a stun then you do fine.
THATS WHATS MAKES DOTA UNIQUE
Have you heard about the boots?
1:33 HAHAHAAHAHA XDDDDDDDDD THAT FACE XDDDD
*chen converts his first creep*
Topson: I'm done. I'm dead.
*topson takes rune*
Topson: I'm done. I'm dead.
*initial creep wave horn sound plays*
Topson: I'm done. I'm dead.
*match found*
Topson: I'm done. I'm dead.
*ana invites to party in-game*
Topson: I'm done. I'm dead.
interesting style
More of this pls
why 480p
This chen is godlike
i love the respect
Bobi mid is just superior
Owned
For me when i face someone dominating me in any lane i change to another lane quickly they will follow we may have some advantage its what i do
can see 2k players discussing how to win chen mid in comment😏😏
1:37 - hero is not broken, but creeps are
This is famous russian strat. Боби мид
Ascendancy ?
any mid hero who doestn have at least a slow or stun is gonna die to mid chen
There is only way to win against Chen is invest in your future: buy wards and place them at jungle spots
My man doesn't understand anymore 🤣