Here Is Some Great Horse Herd Behavior - Introducing A New Horse To Established Herd
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2020
- #thinklikeahorse #ItIsNeverTheHorsesFault Lots of herd behavior here, lots of pressure and release. All normal horse behavior, not horses are being mean or anything else, they are being horses, that is all they know how to be.
I gotta admit that's one of THE WORST paddocks I have ever seen. What an atrocious fence 😱 I could lean on it and the whole thing would collapse
exactly. Not enough room for one horse. Extreme mud. Lack of proper fencing, just... not acceptable. Period.
Thanks Rick. Great "horsy" behaviour explanation. I dont have horses, but always love to watch them. They are great animals!
Their behavior is normal, but! The conditions they are forced to be in, ISN’T I really liked the way you said that Rick!
I love horse behaviour, a shame that an enclosed space and food were causing the problems.
Seems crazy to me to have the 4 of them in a small space with food on their first introduction...not to mention one of them is a baby. If you did that with dogs there would be blood spilt for sure. Great video, thank you for sharing.
I was thinking the same thing. They need to give the horses lots of room to work it out amongst themselves. And the food thing right off the bat doesn’t help either. People are stupid.
I learned a lot from this video. It is amazing once the video is slowed down and you explain things how clear they are reacting to each other. Great video.
Rick, I could sit and listen to you break down herd behavior all day long.. its absolutely fascinating!!
One of my favorite time’s with MrT was when you met up with a herd of horses and Buddy was all in their faces, But MrT just ignored them! Even when the horse’s eventually came up to him, he barely acknowledged them. I loved that video!
Did a bit of digging into other videos of hers for proper info and the big mama Percheron is a mare (named Evening Star), and the baby is a filly (named Kiwanee). And since the new mare (Solie) is clearly the bay, the other paint has to be the gelding (from this vid, it sounds like his name is Spirit)- couldn’t find any more info on him.
Rick, the lady filming said "he" when talking about the Percheron...
Very interesting video!... Thanks Rick!...
That new mare isn't going to take any chit from that herd once she gets a snack in her belly... She came in with an attitude from the start.
@@ingridfitz6671 She probably was and she will be again.
I live in a winter state and sometimes they just have to be in the mud. I don’t like the square fence and jagged edges but other than that I don’t see a problem. I keep up on my horses feet when they have to be in the mud and they stay alright
Same here, spring is the worst for mud.
Thank you, Ohio.
Rick didn’t seem to be criticizing the mud situation as much as the corners, posts, glass, pallets with nails…. all things that could really hurt a horse because of the lack of space and boxing in places.
I think based on behavior, the percheron is a mare and mama to the baby, thus the 'you ain't coming near my baby' behavior. The little paint is the gelding.
Yep totally the coloured is gelding..
I agree with that. The Percheron is the mama and the coloured is the gelding. She is showing typical mama behaviour.
A woman at 3:38 said 'i don't like this at all.'
Lol
Then it's a good thing you aren't a horse.
Very great horsey behaviors video! I really love watching these, hearing your comments, seeing the many little shifts in behavior that seem like nothing to humans who aren't "in the know," but are *_everything_* to the horses involved.
it's crazy how much you can talk, without even saying a single word.... great horsy behaviour, and great explanation Rick :) 🐴
"nobody puts Baby in a corner!" LOL
Nobody puts baby in a corner- sassy mare
LOL love it!
Rick: "hey horsey people"🐎🐴
Carole Baskin: "hey yall cool cats and kittens"🐱🦁🐯
Sorry Rick. Couldn't help myself.🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha!
Lime base and a shovel come to mind lol
Why introduce a new horse in this tiny nutshell.. I wonder
If you have a mud problem it is as simple as too many animals, not enough acres.
not always, in winter, when they are eating dry , they all eat at the same place more or less, so mud is not easy to avoid depending on the quality of earth in the paddock.... (sorry for the poor english, froggy here !)
@@marati11 If you have a tractor and know how to plant, that can be avoided. If you are able to maintain it properly with the right knowledge of what to plant when and the right equipment.
I love how that one girl was like "I don't like this" 🤣
What a great communication video! I’m always watching your videos and trying to understand my horse better and communicate with it. Thanks Rick!
Considering some of the images suggest it starting at 32:56 I am pretty certain that the Tobiano is the gelding since a few frames here and there seem like there's something dangeling between those legs. I haven't caught a frame with the Percheron showing anything down there. So this is really my best guess.
It would also fit the usual behavior I've seen in the herds in my hometown in case a new horse is introduced: Mare sticks to baby, male handles the newcomer.
So much knowledge about horses. I learn every time I watch your videos.
Thank you Rick
On labeling horses/ terms, etc.:
Agree ENTIRELY and with everything.
I think catastrophic terms are great to give inanimate objects weight and presence in the presentation but living Beings are ACTUAL points of interaction.
Casting a term flagrantly makes a difference.
EXAMPLE:
When a person is driving around another driver who is driving poorly, I caution against describing that driver as "drunk" or whatever. Perhaps that other driver is having a sneezing fit or there's a bee in the car or perhaps there is a real emotional reaction occurring. I don't know. If the driving is unsafe it's unsafe. The police will come to conclude once unsafe has ceased.
Using adjectives in place of verbs is not usually very helpful to anything.
My Mom uses "violent" to describe it rather castigate people attempting to redirect her.
Me.
Haha.
You can't have violent words cuz they're WORDS.
I dunno.
You know what it is to have back chatter about someone or presuppositions. You won't act like yourself when encountering this person/animal. You'll act with the attached tainted tint of the description you got.
Not fair.
The coloured horse is the gelding the big one staying by the filly is the mare. She has another video called "our new filly" that shows them when she was born
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Rick, this video was full information and learning. Thank you so much. I appreciate your knowledge and commitment to helping horses by educating us humans and sharing that knowledge with us trying not to be so stupid. It’s working. Thanks .
Agreed!
Great little video (no amount of mud can make me not like these horses) I loved that Percheron's reactions he wore himself out it was endearing to see how he protected the baby. His reactions were instant and so explicit I really enjoyed watching the video. Thanks for the explanations foe their behavior it made everything clear
Hey, Rick!
I'm from Texas farmers, some of the smartest and practical, salt of the earth people.
I enjoy your videos, and learning more about horse behavior.
The best part is how well you care for your animals.
It's no wonder so many of us prefer animals to humans...
I'm not a horse expert, but it doesn't look like these people who have these horse know much more about them than I do. Horses are so beautiful, they should be better taken care of.
I don't have horses and I'm not around them a whole lot, but Rick's teaching me more than just horse behavior. He's taught me about some human behavior, some dog/predator and prey behavior, etc.
I live in Oregon. Dose not mater what we do the mud comes all winter long.
You gave such valuable information about horse behavior . Thanks much!
Glad it was helpful!
I always like your insight about horses! And always good reminders !
Love you Rick, love the way you make sense of it all great little video
I sure hope they all live happy ever after......and the baby and new horse are best buds....she probably wanted to make friends with the baby b/c she thought it would except her without a fight...maybe...
I would say thats an accurate perception.
The paddock or right behind the barn was sometimes just drenched. The barn roof poured the rain in that Area at my family's farm. There was nothing we could do about that. I'd try to find some high ground to walk on to keep both boots
This could’ve been handled so much better if they were all introduced outside on a pasture. That gelding deserves a medal though, dad of the year for protecting the baby through all this nonsense🏅
22:58 Better ways to introduce these horses to each other:
Put a round pen inside this paddock and first have the new horse within the round pen with the other horses in the paddock, each able to get to see and know the others.
Then reverse the horses positions so the new horse is now in the paddock and the other are in the round pen.
Next release the most dominant horse to be with the new one until they figure things out, then the next dominant, etc, until all have been introduced one by one to each other.
or best yet:
Have them all released in a large open field where they can give each other space and work out their connections with far less stress from multiple draws in that tiny enclosed, cornered space.
And a question:
Did the people in this video change anything from Rick’s review? Did they set another feeding area in there?
Hi Rick, I just wanted to thank you for teaching me how treat my cat better. He's not a horse, but your lesson of it's not the horse - it's you, has transformed how I think around my cat.
I ask myself how I made it possible for Picasso do something wrong and look for solutions rather then being angry at him.
I've also noticed how you correct your horses. One clear correction and then release. Rather then keeping on correcting to "show who's boss". I've begun doing this with my cat and he seems a lot less confused and trusts me more.
I also shut up a lot and use more body language then I used to. It's mostly a singular good boy, or a no. But I keep wanting to yap at him though.
Rick, really enjoy your herd videos. Especially when you just happen up on a herd during your travels. Thanks.🐎 Our governments could learn a lesson or 2 from horse herds.
Thanks 👍
You know, Rick, if more people had your insights and knowledge of horses, I believe there would be less problems in pastures, and happier/healthier horses! Kuddos to you and your instincts with animals.
Of course they removed comments because they did something wrong and they don't wanna hear it
I like animals who "fight" for their rank. And not "typical". Usually when I get a new hen its landing at the bottom of the rank also has to sleep of the bottom of the ladder. Once I got a plymouth hen and the very first day she beat every high rank hens and slept on the top of the ladder. 😂
By the way I never heared about dominant mares taking foals. Its amazing. I just learnt something new again on the channel.
Thank you Rick for this video it was a God sent. I have a Mare who is sooo protective of the mini Shetland pony. if I get another horse this is what’s going to happen so I’m learning from you . I will keep watching your videos till I know what to do with the mare and gelding . I know right now my mare will not let another horse be with her and the mini. The reason is I want to try for another horse is I just thought maybe if I had another big horse the mare would not be so protective with little guy. There names are JazMo is the 16.2 Quarter Horse . Skecher is the mini pony. I am willing to learn about them and I’m a big girl and take what I’m doing wrong . I just don’t have no one to tell me . I AM LEARNING FROM YOU. I think you know what your doing . Every horse people I talk to where I live says to WHAT EVER WORKS FOR ME. Ok then , what about the horse what’s good for them 🤔🤔🤔
The only mean horses that I have met have been Shetland Ponies. Almost every single one wanted to bite, kick, or charge me. But the most fun horses are drafts every single one around me wants scratches, treats or just attention. Belgians, Perchs, and Clydesdales.
Ponies are usually spoiled rotten, and handled by kids who easily get dominated by them because they're not taught horse language from a young age. I wouldn't be surprised that those Shetlands have been taught that they're at the top of the hierarchy, hence all the biting, kicking, etc.
@@victoriaolender6289 Well all of them are owned by Amish and they actually use horses more than just pleasure riding or pasture ornaments, and I always say you got any Shetlands and if yes I say I got my 2X4 just in case. But yes almost all of them have a Napoleon complexion. So around me I share the road with about 15 buggies a week on average some obey and get over as far to the shoulder and others try and see just how much of the road they can take.
That's why ya call them "shitland" ponies LOL 😆
I think the percheron is the mom and paint is gelding at the food 32:15
Thanks Rick..buddy and Buddy and Mr T your good boys 🐎🐎🐱
Ha ha he reminded me of Tanner too, not just the look but the command love it. Really well explained thanks rick. Funny how with less humans in this video the pain, injury and “unpredictable “behaviour disappears xxx
Fun video to watch and learn from
The environment these horses are in clearly creates more problems than solutions anyhow
God that Pasture is a fright
Not first! Hay horsey people!
Looks like they live next to the happy cows in California!
Another great video ❤
I love how you say "the baby"
I actually just noticed.... They technically aren't "in closed" cause if you look at 26:18(and probs before) the gate is open which looks like it goes into that big area🤔
Might be wrong right enough but maybe they just brought them in or they were feeding 🤔🤔
26:00 to the far left
The red/brown horse has been around other horses it seems. She's of very healthy size.
Man that lady is smart!!
This is fascinating stuff. Super interesting ! Thanks Rick. So much going on.
That was interesting. Thanks for your commentary.
I use a bag per horse in a field spread out.
This is a really good video. Love all the horses.
Your herd behavior video are my favorite on your horse channel. You are so great at reading horse language I would like to think I have learned a lot from you. Although I dont have horses anymore so not going to be able to put is to use anytime soon. But still great & informative anyways.
That's why my stallion is fed like he's in hard work at all times. He is.
What kind of stallion was/is he?
At 25:00, the two horses look directly at each other over the shoulder & ears focused like saying you okay while brown horse says she was cornered not wanting to fight? Then they both looked away and reversed ear direction, what was that about?
After that, It almost looked like the little horse let the brown horse get a pass to the left while ordering the Percheron back, it looked like the little horse blocked the Percheron as if telling the black horse to calm down, things were under control, the brown horse doesn't mean any harm.
When the brown horse went to the left, it was interesting cause she looked like she was seeking comfort from the human. And walked to the opposite fence, the little horse walked over with food hanging from it's mouth (lol, so cute) and seemed like the little horse was saying we have food and you can eat, but stay away from the baby. Message received at 32:52 brown horse acknowledged by looking away and courtesy licking its lips.
Then when the little horse went back to the food with ears forward, brown horse nodding with pinned ears saying it was complying, but didn't like the rule.
When they all start eating, as the brown one went for it's separate stack it looked at the baby, and that black horse was not having it. And the little soldier horse put hard ears forward at the brown horse, taking command about the rule do not even look at the baby. At the end the brown horse takes some hay and chews with eyes forward. Thanks for posting, your herd communication breakdown is always interesting.
Ancient Celtic people used to say that the horse is an animal symbolic of the snake. Makes sense. They used to draw their horses on their coins as a long squiggly line for a body... like a snake. And the word cavallo apparently comes from the word cava meaning cave. And obviously horses don’t live in caves, but some snakes do. Pretty cool animals.
They wouldn't have so much mud there if someone had put better gutters on the barn:)
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Thank you.You helped me in my bull shit.my first horse.need help
Horses, monkeys and hippoes sweat like people.
we had several horses before, the main place they was going was maybe 10 000 square meters or more with some areas filled with trees, a stream runing true the place they was and some small hills and mountain terain like what you would have at places thats not just flat land .
Good deal. I feel much better about my instincts about working with horses. I was just thinking the same thing you suggested, the round pen in the middle. I have seen new introductions to herds that worked very well this way. Just throwing them in a small area, with many trap points, to 'figure/fight it out' seems not too smart in my opinion.
Ok why they don’t let all the horses in the pasture to figure it out .
I think that is a good idea Rick with round pin or letting them out in a pasture!
So good Rick!!!
My sister horse and my horse got along with each they were laid back they like who cares
That fencing would most definitely not keep my horses in, they would be somewhere in the distance lol
the mud sucks, but i get it. Some places are just a swamp and you can not do nothing about it This is no excuse for their fence.
I'm pretty sure it's just the rain that makes the horse look wet. You can tell by the look of the sky and what made the mud in there.
But I gotta make a fair point; When it rains, the horses must stay in their stalls. And once the mud dries out solid, THEN they're allowed to go out.
I agree with what was said! Just laughing because my perch mare is protective of anything in her pasture. New comers are NOT allowed to join until she allows. Ever see a Percheron be a cowboy cutter? She can do it with her goats- when newcomers are introduced. Lol
I think the Pherchron is the mare/mother to baby.
I agree.
At (31) can the horse on the left even get into the food? Looks like there's a barrier there which would be even worse cuz there's even less points of food contact for them.
Thats the WORST pasture i have ever seen and worst way to introduce a new horse. Learn a lots by your videos❤️
I think the percheron is the mare. The paint that is dealing with the new horse is the gelding. It is so muddy in there. The fencing looks terrible. They all look to be wet so it must have been raining.
I always have 2 piles hay per each horse in hanging nets or porta grazors so no one has to fight to eat but its super scary when things get like this on mud so slippery
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Mama looks like our mama at our place she has a baby who doesn’t want to listen
I hate seeing horses in mud pits.
Ah-hahaha "now the guy got yelled at by
the _'Mare'_ " how true, I bet his Mare yells at him all the time! I wonder if he's happy he Mare - ied her! 😂😂😂
Why not drop a few flakes of hay along the fence and give them all food? I don't know what they want to happen here.
Nasty conditions no good pasture to graze on !
OMG look at the mud it's real money there
Percheron is mama!
We’ve got a sassy mare like that !
Yes I've watched horses on round bales. I don't like it. I'm always aware of what my horses are eating so I feed separately in am and evening. I throw reams of hay flakes throughout the pasture for overnight.
Rick, have you seen the "horse playing piano with its nose" video yet? Wayyyy too cute! Go watch it!
I think the baby just wanted to meet the new guy. Buddy does that too:)
I always let my horse eat on trail if she wants cause she’s so herd driven as soon as the trail horses in front of her move she follows. But the owners of the farm tell the riders to not let their horses eat for two reason I think, hard to pull the head up for beginners and because they don’t know that’s plant life is safe.