Wagner - Tristan and Isolde (Prelude)
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- Tristan und Isolde (Tristan and Isolde), WWV 90, is an opera in three acts by Richard Wagner to a German libretto by the composer, based largely on the 12th-century romance Tristan and Iseult by Gottfried von Strassburg.
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this is a piece that holds more of a message than any other.
I have watched this in opera at Vienna.It was amazing.
Windstrom....I concur with you about Wagner's genius. I don't compare him with either Beethoven or the greatest musical genius who ever lived, Mozart. The reason I really love Wagner's music is because of both its power and beauty. Some of the minor lines such as found in Tannhauser's prelude represent some of the most beautiful music ever written. Wagner himself was a dynamic, bombastic person and it really reflects in his music. Power and beauty..rare combination in his scores.
The most sublime music of the ages--light years ahead of music then--and now. Wagner--a genius of the highest order. Only Beethoven is slightly above him and even that is debatable.
TheWickedNorth, I want to tell you this. You're awesome for load this songs on the internet.
What a relaxing music after a day's hard work!!!!! thanks so much
Aarón Felipe wrote:
"It's weird but I like playing Halo while listening to this master pieces"
Don't feel bad at all! When I was a teenager, I was really into World War II strategy games. Whenever I played, I'd play the classics (the really uptempo stuff!)
Sometimes I'd even plan the tunage specific to the game. Like Wagner if I played as the Third Reich against the USSR, or the finale to Saint-Sean's Symphony # 3 (Organ) if I were the Allies liberating France during Operation Overlord.
As for many expressing concern about Wagner, as a person? Yes, he was, at the least, unpleasant; at the worst, something more sinister; for certain, he was an anti-semite, to some degree or another.
But, if one is truly honest, it is impossible for anyone in history--including any of us after we have passed from this life--to be judged by the Perfect Hands of Hindsight, Future Modern Mores, and Political Correctness, and not be found wanting by future generations.
What might make some even more sensitive about his character flaws--real and perceived--is that the worst possible said of him is so drastically, inversely, proportional to his exceptional talents and superb compositions.
This is the piece that Leonard Bernstein called "the central work of all music history, the hub of the wheel".
grazie di esistere.
I'm agree.
@windstorm1000 Well, I've always put my faith in the 3 Bs:
Beethoven
Bach
Bieber
Funny haha
@nwildstrawberry You are right. Perhaps it doesn't make a difference to anyone but me. My apologies to you.
Kirsten Dunst, Melancholia.
Hey I am not criticizing people that listen to this and like it, the importance and influence of Wagner is huge I would be really ignorant to dismiss that. It's just that I have a problem with him but you're right this is neither the place nor the way to express that.
its weird but i like playing Halo while listening to this master pieces
@mangledinal Does it make any difference? It doesn't make his music sound worse.
Such a sublime music!!!.........who is playing?
@windstorm1000 I believe Wagner is in some higher level above anyone else. I love em both.
I agree with you. This music is from other universe
@goback3spaces Right on the first two. Am ROFLMAO on the last one!
You're right, music is debatable. I just find Wagner, personally, at the top of the heap. He seems to have covered every ground--structure, emotion, drama, harmony, melody into this organic whole-- and ratched that whole up several points at least on his contemporaries. The other composers you mentioned are certainly revolutionaries---I would add Stravinsky, Bartok and Schoenberg.
@windstorm1000 Thank you for replying. I appreciate the fact that you enjoy Wagner's music; unfortunately, I do not. Perhaps you could suggest pieces I would enjoy? As for his anti-Semitism, I have heard this comment all my life from music teachers, college professors, etc. I will suspend my judgment of Wagner's anti-Semitism, though. I have no proof.
just... amazing
@mangledinal How can you say that?! Wagner's music is powerful, exciting & moving. Certainly not boring---I could say that for a number of composers. The anti-Semite question is complicated--on the surface very much so--& yet things are not simple as posters would like to put it here---Wagner also had Jewish friends. He was ambivilent about Jewish folks--and really his view is more about Jewish composers like Meyerbeer & Mendelsohn who, he felt, were competition. Ultimately, his music wins.
"Un Chien Andalou" flashbacks😐
Not Mozart, Bach :)
Godwin's Law at work.
TROLOLOLOLOLOL
Everything is debatable. I'm sorry but there are lots of geniuses than've revolutioned the field of the music in the last century, Debussy, Webern, Cage for mention a few.
what you're saying is very debatable. Wagner probably would have disapproved Hitler's likeing him. And, of course, he had no say so in the matter being dead. So your argument is full of holes--as are all those arm chair 'theorists' who try to tie Wagner and Hilter together. Sorry folks --it aint gonna work--just enjoy the music without any political jam on it, ok?
I prefer not being called an asshole yet I am aware of the number of ''trolls'' on the internet. I assume that you took me for one and therefore responded in a very comprehensible way. The reason behind me calling Wagner an asshole is that he had some rather disputable habits. I am sorry if I offended you.
In my own opinion, which is all musical opinion can be, Beethoven is the genius.
@Slotzan Try reading a little history, Mr. Sound Biter before spouting off your mouth. You know NOTHING about this great composer's life!!!!!
No, for musical genius I will always look to Mozart, Beethove, Bach, but never Wagner. This is just ho-hum. I have also heard that Wagner was an anti-Semite. True?
Hitler's favorite composer, purportedly due to their shared anti-semitic views. Good music, but still. Hitler.
Overrated