How KR Challengers Use Reworked Skarner
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Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well.
We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video
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what is frostfire man
Old K'sante kidnap combo is back lol
FYI the designer of ksante, smolder and new skarner was the same
@@geniusmonster9 Actually glad they were let go, K'Sante is the most toxic overloaded kit LoL has ever seen. Smolder is shit tier design having Elder execute on a passive ability, and Skarner is okay I guess. The amount of CC is a bit much considering how jank his E is but other than that it's fair enough.
He can dive and be anti-dive its a bit too insane
@@psychedelaholicthey nered because trash1 zeus cant play tank and gumayushit cant play zeri, smolder, kaisa
Old K'sante? Boy old Skarner kidnap was there since the dawn of time
K'sarner
Ahahah that was good
The K stands for kidnap
Aint no way they just gave rework job to ksante and smolder guy💀☠️
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Hey, i have found that you can use stride breaker and other tiamat actives while on ult kidnap, this is very useful with stridebreaker specifically, to gain a *slight* boost to movement speed while ulting to get kidnaped champions closer to your team or tower
Hollup... Let him cook
nah this is garbo. too many wasted stats on stride. much better things to get. if you really want a slow get gauntlet.
@@zelcadin when did the OP said they wanted a slow? go back to kindergarden. your readin' skills are just NOT it. the OP talked about the movement boost from stridebreaker, never mentioned any slow.
@@bharatcarballo5144 Tankiness is still the top priority, the health from stride is not enough, better for fun only but not a optimum build
@@kentQQ123 Not everyone needs to build optimal built to have fun
this level of disruption and poke could easily make its way to the support role. a great kit for peeling and engaging into 2v2 situations
Alistar vibes
Agreed I tried him as sup and it felt quite powerful, ended up doing the most damage on the team too lmao
Was thinking the same, I recently started using k Sante as supp feels really good
He's pretty good Support! The Tank support item (idk the shield one lol) helps him a lot with, shocker, tanking and CC
I mean, Skarner top kidnapping you under tower was indeed one of his characteristics, I'm glad that he has different combos to do that now, it gives more room to express skill imo
I was waiting for this! Love from BR S2
Very nice video. I was a big Skarner top player before the rework and I've been waiting until the new champ banning settles down to play him.
It's great seeing all this kidnapping tech, nice to see it's still possible.
My man you are insane. You are the guy everyone copies and uploads the trends from. So much detail into a new "concept" or champion is each time.
I actually needed this gangy
thanks, love your videos Dobby
10:32 first time seeing Skarner ulti grab the enemy’s model THIS smoothly.
Kinda figured this would happen when I saw his potato clear speed and low mana costs
he does 3:09 no leash 1 smite, tf do u mean potato clear speed
@santumi2298 that is absolutely not what I got, granted I did mine before the hotfix and also have no clue what the hotfix was lol
@@d1mensi0n70currently the hotfix was mostly mana nerfs, but also increased his base AD ratio on Q. The key to clearing with Skarner is to use the E through walls and leaving the camps when they hit like 120 HP. Your passive + pet can burn easily finishes off camps before they reset. I’ve gotten 3:12 with practice, but I am still figuring optimal HP amounts.
Did most of these though for the Arcane never thought of it lol pretty neat something to use against ranged top champs
tower champion spotlight goes hard
I wish you made more videos directed at jungle, love your videos though!
just a small detail to add. you don't need to q again in the Q e auto W Q E combo. if you are holding a rock still then it will be thrown away automatically when you ult in the direction of your ult
Hi dobby thx for the video ^^
You ever wake up in NA and think you still have an imagination, and then you watch a Korean gameplay video and realize you're a literal potato brain?
Yeah, same.
I mean tbf any new champ that comes out they just pick comet and play them poke until the meta is established
@@megamanxx3001 lol yeah, I'm mainly referring to the plays made in the video. Lots of things I didn't consider as jungle Skarner, too.
Mainly the ult over the wall at Baron/Dragon pit.
came to the comments to say something similar smh
Same here gangy
Idk I thought these were very obvious other than the E hitbox. I'm not particularly great and multiple friends independently found some of these tricks as well (namely the R positioning).
Comet became a thing for me because I hated vayne matchup but wanted to ban mordekaiser
it plays just like the old skarner, and surprisingly I also played it before the video)
That W hitbox is actually illegal. Very interactive gameplay.
algorithm comment, ty dobby
I wonder if experimental hexplate would be good. Extra movement speed after using ult and more ult cd
Nice to have a group kidnap again. I miss the Zac kidnap ult.
loldobby the goat
Any chance you can find a ryze player to make a video on I love your videos and would love a updated video even tho the old one still holds up
looks hella strong, literally what sion wishes he could be
League in 2013: "we want you to strategize and come up with any working scenario for ur team. choose any champion in any lane and make it work
League in 2024: no fun allowed
a cool part of skarner ult is his orientation gets locked so it matters a lot how you angle it
So basicly you never wanna even step close to their sweetspot at before tower, just like with gragas or else you just gonna get bomba'd into tower every single time. Seems like fun and intuitive gameplay to me...
Can't wait to see Skarner support.
Oh trust me im already working on it since it was one of my fav pics pre rework
@@grapeman807 Go for it king, as the ones who invented, Pantheon Supp, Camille Supp, now you'll make Skarner Supp something viable.
Is this pre hotfix? Love your videos ♥
I’ve been running HoB and building eclipse
It’s pretty good
skarner is like poppy but you can also drag them while stunned
Woah! :o
Man I'm just scared of this new skarner, imagine 5min getting doved mid by skarner 3 times under turret is just insane ( and he's live after taking 3 turret shot ) :(
I've been experimenting with Titanic/Sundered/even eclipse in some easier matchups, the AD is nice and with ingenious making you infamously unkillable with Sundered+Eclipse, you can still fill the Frontline your team needs
Edit: Only just now, scrolling through these comments, did I find out tiamat actives work in ult, but I don't think that includes Titanic because it is an auto reset. Maybe swap that for stride?
Battlecast looks clunky, I like it
okay, kinda curious. That Brolaf's "Bro-hooo!" Sounded the same as his EN version, but he's on KR. IS that the same regardless of language? Awesome if so.
No mention of Skarner ult giving him unstoppable, so you can use it as a counter-engage?
that ult behind baron is crazy
New Skarner really said "GET OVER HERE!!" 😂
Gankplank is also one of the biggest counters if he gets ahead unless you have a jungler
Is e interaction nerfed to not break yone e back?
Tower champion spotlight, it's looks like Rell top, probably a lot better since he actually has damage and waveclear, but he will be melted come lategame.
This looks like Ksante 2.0 with going behind and ulting to a turret
9:55 most satisfying moment...😩👌
great
Hail of blades is also fun to use with Q
0:36 - I would have immediately quit and uninstalled. That interaction is funny as hell.
What happens when you grab someone with skarner's ult and then use kalista's ult to pull skarner?
3:13
Skarner: Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru.
Gnar: Nani!?
I swear to god that R locking champions into specific vicinity of the champ look so goddang weird. He looks like hes doing a simba thing when he just shove enemy into his own tower. Wtf bro i prefer old skarner top kidnaps. That baron pit kidnap is so illegal btw.
It really brings back memories when i first learned how to play old Skarner kidnap top from this channel too.
I hope to one day see a double kidnap duo botlane go to diamond. Like Skarner + Kench or K'sante or smt like that xd
damn what a cool rework
Nice
can you flash while chanelling ult or was it restricted too?
you can't
meanwhile riot removing ksante slow on ulted Q for balance.
thank god we have another loldobby video on gragas v2 cant wait to face skarner top now 😍😍😍
this was always the plan of top lane skarner to kidnap people under turret and cc them for life (e > ult > auto > e > auto with enough cdr) but now you have disgusting lane harass, escape through walls, have a way longer threat range and can kidnap pre 6 wtf
Kennen sucks at his job for like 5 seasons😂
I love how skarner can instantly punish these top laners/top lane champions that have been able to be so overly aggressive for so long. If the wave is dying under turret, and you're a renekton or riven, you shouldn't be able to just stand there, full combo under turret, and walk away like nothing happened. Skarner + Ksante , and hopefully more champions can be added/reworked to re-educate these reckless players.
it's so agressive and funny the champions voice on kr server lol
Is the bugged W fixed or nah?
I knew tank runes weren't meant for him now gotta wait for some shojin tech
He makes really good use of almost every keystone in the game in one way or another. Tank Skarner bulid-wise works kinda like Malphite - you take Comet in some matchups (ranged champs, strong early game threats etc.) and Grasp in others.
I play Skarner for fun, these combos will surely help me make the opponents suffer.
How is skarner top vs champs like zac darius fiora irelia'?
Too bad they just hot fixed Skarner to nerf him out of top lane. They only want him to be played in jungle. Which is dumb because this is no worse than Tahm or ka'sante using your own tower for kills.
lol all they did was nerf the mana cost on W and you dont even feel it with manaflow and biscuits and when u go back for ur 1st buy getting a tear just completely negates ur mana issues. pls know what ur talking about 1st before posting.
Even after the hotfix, top skarner is still being used well.
We don't really have any mana issues with the build in the video
But this type of un interactive and minimal counter play, play style
is just not fun to play against so I thinks it’s better if they balance it twords
jng
It's a necessary nerf. W spam with comet is very toxic and uninteractive to play against. 46% winrate for a new champion is too much. But he's still viable on top lane, so that's not too big of a deal.
I'd even argue that as long as his W works the same way as it is now, he'll always be viable on top lane.
Th w spam max is jsut lame
Your E takes priority of Lee Q recast. Actually your E takes prio over most of abilities. :)
I didn't notice how massive W's range is lol
he looks really cool tho
Hilarious how Olaf is a counter for every single champ and strat at the end of the video xD
Skarner Rugal Bernstein! 😊
First like
Make a vid about grasp azir
skarner reksai top 100% pick/ban presence at MSI
Skarner is disabled for MSI
Reksai already got her healing halved on minions on live. So yeah no
Skarner support :)
Now you can't get kidnapped alone... He takes your teammates with you
Skarner the kidnapper, damm
I miss old skarner
The kidnapping is actually insane.
Scarner looks like a menance now , fearful and majestic with that tripke steal your oponents is a game changer ,
Well done making this video glad to see the og champions are getting a fresh air , keep up the good work ~
That E into wall stun duration is way too long, considering he can chain his ult
Looks like we have another K'Sante. You aren't allowed to touch half the lane without being under the enemy tower.
Lol, this type of style is basically the same as tahm and k'sanate that just cheese you to the tower like that 😂
Half that plays only work because people still haven´t figured out that skarner E gets canceled by EVERYTHING. The renekton E-R tower kindnap for example. If he used W before E, he´d automatically autoattack Skarner right after skarner catches him with E and interrupt the charge. Same with Udyr E and all other abilities functioning like that. Even Vaynes can buffer E in a manner, that AFTER beeing already cought you´ll get knocked back and interrupted. Literally the most clunky ability in the entire game.
I wonder how this plays vs camille
E doesn’t have priority on hookshot and ult has a long cast time she can kite with Q ms
So with Ksante they didn’t like how he had “0 counter play “ combos and kills you under tower and he’s been going through a great number of changes and reworks. So now…they rework Skarner so he has “0 counter play “ combos and can not only kill you under tower but can drag you under it from a decent distance away. How is this improvement in Champ design again?
Some people see the word nerf and instantly think a champion is ruined.
we need a white van skin for this champ
How did Skarner instantly throw the rock he picked up at 10:56?
there definitely should be a 0.75s delay between the boulder pickup, and the boulder toss
but that Skarner picks up the rock and throws it immediately
How did that occur?
He didn't. Watch the clip again
@@user-lh8iy8ew5u i read the abilities and saw that when you have the boulder picked up and you press R, it will throw the rock instantly
so he did
you should probably rewatch it
@@PureSoulKyo yeah you're right. The timestamp took me to the play just before it where he threw the rock after the delay. But honestly giving up your ult to throw the rock instantly is fine.
Cant wait for a Skarner one trick to get turbo fed then clean up an already winning fight against Showmaker and be nerfed into the ground forever
dont worry, they'll give skarner the akali treatment.
For refrence of what im talking about: Akali's q used to start behind her. This is a similiar situation with his e.
Oh god. They made Poppy 2.
If i was a skarner main i think I'd hate this rework ^^
hi doooby
as far as i saw earlier in clips, he couldve just ulted towards the tower at 6:36 and it'd be better no?
5:38 alright but how did riven get tower aggro here
No way the e kidnapping people behind skarner is going to stay, that is getting changed next patch for sure
He plays a lot like Tahm, but with more aoe and less single target damage.
I'm looking at this, was confused as to why w max first, and then I realized it's range is enormous, why tf is his w range that long? It should be like his twice his old q range at most
According to wiki it's 700 range, that's a Cait auto