Did Money and Influence Corrupt FPV? (pt2/2)
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Which pilot had the biggest impact on your direction in the hobby? also watch part 1 RIGHT NOW here - czcams.com/video/oRXoz44GYHI/video.html
KababFPV! i designed my own frames and sent him pictures for review. i've only ever bought two frames somebody else made, the very first one i ever had was a kit, and recently a mobula7. all others i've designed myself. also discussed a bunch of other related things with him. cool guy :)
Initially...LeDrib (when RR was cool) currently following Danish Stallion, ZoeFPV and FlexoFPV cuz i fly 3D now...I follow a Few other pilots like PhantomFPV, MurdersFPV, Dajuiceman and EBR. Hell if you flying good i watch it!
Steve from FinalGlideAus and David from RCExplorer. Both the best kind of genuine people who've have shaped me as a person more than a FPV pilot for the better.
They both may have left the world of FPV behind. But both were early innovators who helped push a brand new hobby into the world stage.
For me it was ummagawd 🤘
Steel and Zoe, zoe’s 3D is just crazy.
Stu it was you that influenced me mate and it was you that gave me all the info and fun that goes with FPV thx for all the help keep the vids coming plz my friend :))
Nice vid mate... ah... the memories!!! I remember the Naze32 Rev 5 but these days I have upgraded and only use the Rev 6 😛
MATE I BLAME YOU FOR GETTING ME IN HERE!!! i build your first afro esc old quad hahaha. we are so old now.,.. such a different time back then.
@@UAVfutures Yeah, one day it'll be just you and me with a couple of ZMR250s running 3S, 1806 motors, and badly tuned Baseflight 🙂
You were my influence with the grumpy bugger haha
GRUMPY is such a legend.
Trappy and TBS's NYC wing video got me started in FPV and I will forver owe him and TBS a debt of gratitude. But I have to say I was glad to stumble into you Stew when I finally built my first quad in 2017 or so. I was really glad to see an Aussie doing so well.
Trap is such a mad lad. where in did you start flying first?
Loving these videos about FPV history. Keep rocking mate!
I started flying in 2004 and fpv drones in 2006 ;-) I also gave CASA manufacturing training, after watching the flow state documentary, I feel like I should shine some light on when and where drones originated ...
can you explain a bit more, or even email me please? sounds super interesting.
I was talking FPV ( not what I called it ) nearly 40+ years ago. I flew fixed wing and always wondered how one could set up a cam view "inside the cockpit" ( that is what I called it ) I read forums and many people spoke of the same desire ( even before I did ) but the right tech was not there .
Fast forward I saw a few vids like Charpu who was flying through buildings and that "inside the cockpit view" was amazing
But at that time several were doing it, and it was the FPV Tech ( much like SAFE in fixed wings a few years back) revolutionized the RC Aviation Hobby where just about anyone could buy and fly with little help from anyone ( just like DJI and other "camera Drones" that have also caused a ruckus in the Hobby.
The SAD part of all that is many jumped on that band wagon and started showing their antics across video media and many of those vids were doing things very unsafe, and without respect nor care .
We saw Rotor Riot and many others flying in places and in ways they should have never been.
Then everyone wanted to do the same and sadly many and most have.
From building dives to bridges to flying over and through auto's and among people and then we saw some flying over manned aircraft and at airports etc etc...and here we now are with Absolute Foolish regulations and rules that have came about because of most of these so called "influencer's"
SO honestly many of these influencer's have corrupted the entire Rc Aviation Hobby, especially FPV.
Now most of them fly commercially and all for the dollar. many are still making YT vids and many in the community follow them like dogs in heat and hang on their every word while they helped sell the hobby out for that mighty Dollar .
We can not blame them all because many have done it FOR the Community and Hobby and not for the Dollar and even for themselves like therapy . Many have done it trying to educate the community and share their knowledge to help others and simply to have fun and the desire to help others experience the joy of flight .
SO it is like a 70-30 stat. Sadly the 70% are the ones who have helped ruin the hobby for others and the other 30% is still there to help...ONLY you can decide which ones are in which %percentage% group.
Now some may agree and some may not however just take a look at how much the Hobby has declined with all the "influencers" who now are money making commercial entities and who have silently just went along with the regulators and Industry folks and refuse to stand up against the tyranny and destruction of a hobby itself they once promoted !!!
great response. thanks for actually putting together a well set out thoughtful comment. maybe this could be the basic for a more in depth vid on it specifically? any pinical moments in particular?
You‘ve got some serious oscillations on your Walksnail quad. Better try KISS 🤪😂
I started with open pilot i switched to betaflight to get led control and it was so much better
Great video stu, I was like you started right at the beginning so this brought back some great memories, would like to mention project blue falcon who really did some great tutorials, RIP also Andy RC was really good but has just disappeared,
man, project blue falcon... that hit me so hard. miss that bloke. he really was a good dude.
I missed all of this stuff, too busy sitting on the side of a hill, drinking tea and flying 😎
when did you start?
@@UAVfutures I started flying 40plus years ago. I fly a little FPV too but still mostly slope soaring. 😎
I was wondering what happened to Emuflight.. one of my whoops still flies with it.
Loved part two! ❤
Luv ya boys, gotta miss the ole days.
Great videos Stu. Thanks for doing these!
Great job Stu! That for this!
what for this?
I know a guy who in the late 90s was flying fixed wing FPV. He hacked together some cctv equipment and rudimentary transmitter/receiver tech. He says the quality was pretty bad, but definitely usable.
I tried dipping my toes into fpv back in 2017 but ended up never taking off due to personal events out of my control. I recently decided to get back into it now that everything is slowing down. It’s nice to watch this and get caught up with what I missed lol
welcome back mate, what you flying now? if you need any help just let me know
@@UAVfutures I just ordered a Flywoo Firefly fr16 and a Radiomaster Pocket. Should be here in the coming weeks. I’m very excited to get back into rc hobbies, especially now that my daughter is interested too. Keep up the fantastic work with your channel, I’m always looking forward to new uploads.
You forgot silverware by notfastenuff on tiny whoops which was to turn into Alienware,flew really good and didnt need betaflight.Acro was spot on and you could configure the flightboard using a fidi soldered onto it,this was mainly for brushed motor's but worked really good.ive got several builds i still fly and still surprised by how good it still is for the time.
Where I would like to see BetaFlight go from here is adding more features like what iNav has for better return to home and position hold. The move to splitting the code so things that are not needed or wanted can be removed and the cloud build system is a move in the right direction. This could be the thing that makes H7s worth spending more money on.
Great video and you must have put a lot of time in giving us, lazy CZcamsrs, a historic walkthrough of FPV-history. Thanks a lot, I enjoyed every second of it! 👍
Great Video very true stuff here. I have been in the hobby for 10 plus years so seeing this change has been crazy :)
have a great day mate
3:44 - Stew calling it. KISS was the start of inflences to sell, sell, sell.
MAN I LOVE YOUR VIDS. thanks for watching, big fan. even though we have some diff views or focus on diff things thanks for all you do and informing the hobby.
@@UAVfutures Likewise. be well man. Keep'em coming.
3:56 nice, even jello like 2016 😄
I dont fly quads, personally like wings. But i always watched your stuff years ago. Your videos always made me happy.
Cheers! It's been quite a ride.
Hey Stu you're going to have to do a part3 and talk about the current trend towards micros and whoops. All the cool kids dumped BetaFlight for QuickSilver.
awesome idea
Hay mate looking to get a second hand 5 inch any leads so I can get started in the hobby
Great documentary on the role of influence and BetaFight as part of flight controller software development heritage. INAV and Aurdopilot seem to have been ignored, but they are less focused on drone racing specifically. Maybe they're examples of software without big influence. ;)
Suggestion: a videos in this style focused on FPV goggles and transmitters. Lots of good FPV history, and stories that should be preserved.
I miss Skitzo. Vort3x too..
I don't agree with you that kiss was all about "your favorite pilot" bottom line. Kiss flew amazing with almost no tuning to where betaflight came from clean flight and clean flight came from base flight and the code was horrendous and a mess to sort through just to make the simplest changes to the pid controller (hence why they still have issues shaking airmode explosions) was alot of work versus clean tech with fresh fw...js. much love
If you don't need RTH Quicksilver firmware is amazing on a 5 inch drone. Just didn't raise the boost too high you'll smoke motors.
on the FC? is thaT a dirivative of betaflight or a whole new project?
Big love
You was also a big input into the community Zoe so well done hope things are working out better for you now
woo, thanks for being involved.
@Uavfutures why not mention the scam that was Flight1 with the H7 Lightening pre orders? If he happens to come. Ack some how a 3rd time is it not fair information for the community to be aware of?
On a more positive note, I love that you showed the history and brought back some names for the new folks to look into like Metal Danny. Those parking garage races were sick. lol.
Where is Fettec and Alpha in your Story?
Yes man!@! More libe live streams please stu !!
sunday nights usa time?
Beta flight only got good when Flightones code came out.
you didnt like it before?
Cool video dude 😎
thanks mate. did you see part 1?
Yes I did 😁👍
As if I didnt need more of a reason to chain myself to the open source band wagon.
love you bro
GPL spreading like a virus needs significant code, not a snippet like one small function. However perhaps you misrepresented the nature of that function? Or perhaps the freight train community overpowered the owners of the code. Hard to say.
Op + Flyer id, and vlos requirements for 250g+ is the most ruinous part of fpv if you ask me, particularly in the uk, remote id is bullshit too, but we don't have that yet, but we dont need spotters, we should be allowed to legal fly alone in safe remote locations, its ridiculous that we are breaking the law in doing. I also think that digital fpv systems need to come down in price, they need to be cheap enough to build, fly, crash repeat, for the masses, not just the wealthy, most of my whole builds cost less than a digital system, one digital costs the same as analogue does now, there will be a resurgence.
Easy answer just fly analog - it's good enough.
Analog video systems have the economy of scale advantage as they are hardware borrowed from automotive backup cameras.
Over the next 2-5 years there will be a tipping point where digital camera, and digital video compression chips (the expensive silicon) will rapidly drop in price. For digital FPV goggle to drop in price, will require a larger market like VR to increase in size. The FPV consumer base is just not big enough on it's own to influence economics at scale that changes prices by an order of magnitude. (divide by 10)
Investing time in learning the ins and outs of analog will reward you with a quality video feed. (reducing electrical noise, good antenna's, etc). In some ways analog is still king. Particularly if learning, or the probability of crashing is higher.
Dealing with regulation has much to do with education people beyond the FPV community. That FPV go lumped into the same bucket as hobbies related to RC flyers and DJI consumer drones adds many challenges.
Loved these videos!
From what I got from the video is that Betaflight and ELRS are the projects carrying the FPV spirit while there were countles companies trying to make the hobby some corporate wasteland
Betaflight and the people who work on it are freakin amazing. Elrs is great too, i use it but honestly i dont know anything about its history or its developers but seems like they are pretty awesome too.
Caveat emptor
People started k7ll7ng with FPV in Russia, the pandemic ended and YT audiences left and went back to work,
and playing with AI superceeded it as way more interesting.
Unless you're hitting tanks in Ukraine, FPV has gone the way of the hoola hoop.
Plus, people copy your work and don't give you credit. Cough cough EdgeTX
You ain't beating politics...and i couldn't give a shit. I'll keep flying where i want, when i want!..😉
but do influencers change what you buy?
@@UAVfuturesNo. They do make me take a look at the product. But i like to do my own research. Iv been building for a while so generally know whats good and what's not.
Cc3d
a man of ecentric tastes lol
The genius that decided to mount a gun on a quad, and put it on CZcams ruined it for everyone.
I thought it was jayo and the airplane dive 😂
Cry harder
that 1 vid back in like 2015 or something?
@@UAVfutures obviously a joke. But that's the one.
👍🏻👍🏻
I want to be an Australian. I heard they have great shrimp on the barbie.
I'll take Barbie on my shrimp! 🦐
we dont call it shrimp.
@@UAVfutures Barbie on the prawn then?
@@UAVfutures prawns? 🍤
The only thing corrupt about fpv if anything, is youtube. One could argue that pilots will endorse crap for money, but as an adult its up to me to decide whats hype and whats not. I enjoy fpv youtube but all i really care about is flying. If guys want to be influinced by money thats their issue. I just want to rip packs.
can I ask what you fly and what made you buy those specific parts?
@@UAVfutures right now im still in winter mode flying my mobula 7 which i chose based on random videos of people doing freestyle with it. Just looked like a decent whoop for the price.still rockin analog dominator goggles. Currently I build my own 5 inch using alot of iflight parts. My first quad was a nazgul that i bought mostly cus it looked cool lol, but i find iflight to be pretty reliable and not too expensive. At 39 i feel like im too old to be influinced, i do watch reviews and take information from the people who make videos but thats all i take is the info. If im guilty of hype, the one thing i got because of a video was the green ethix tx lanyard, but its freakin cool looking. The channels i most enjoy is yours, mr steele, and bardwell because i would never jave gotten a quad off the ground without jb.
Give me all your money Donald Trump. I want $462 million after interest, please.
He ain't got it 😂
Doesn’t matter if you do or don’t like him. What is happening is extremely poor for Democracy. It won’t end well for your countries harmony.
@@BonesFPV I agree with that. It’s actually true evil if you think about it. Not good.
@@BonesFPV I agree totally! He's awful for democracy. A fraud, liar, thief, and the absolute worst president the U.S. has ever had. Good point that it's irrelevant whether people think he's good or bad. 👍
What about Newbie Drone? 😂