What’s frustrating for me, is not only whether he should be put down at this point (from how much damage he has done I definitely agree with Ed) but why it’s now THE RESCUE’S job to do so. Why aren’t you being responsible and holding your dog as he’s euthanized, and making the call for not only your pet but for your family?! This is YOUR PET and YOUR FAMILY. You made a commitment, and you should be there at the end of his life too. Not passing this awful hard decision to someone else who doesn’t even know him and leaving him scared and alone in his last minutes.
Yes, and well said, even though "my" Ziggy was an aggressive little shit (most likely due to her overindulgence) she should have done the right thing by him and been there.
Owning two poodle mixes by trendy names says everything we need to know about the owner's ability and why their incompetence ended up with a child being disfigured.
I agree. Far too much -oodles out there. Not that I think they are bad dogs, but they are too often taken by owners just to have something special or because they are cute. Just the same with many small dogs. „Isn‘t my Westie a cute boy?“. yes, but he is still a terrier! A.s.o.
@@roschanvargonay9820 very good comment. Nothing more to add, just 100% agreement. Terriers are some of the most driven, and poodles were originally hunting dogs as well and even their smaller breed counterparts are still clever, energetic, confident dogs. No person on this world should get a dog only for looks, always regard temperament first and only choose the one that looks best from those who suit the owner with regards to temperament!
@@WDLC1911 The problem isn't the mix. Its the kind of people who buy these mixes, hereby supporting the 100% BYB/mills that produce them. They are the kind of people who don't do research, aren't prepared to meet any of the dog's needs, and only chose their dog for image. They are overall terrible owners. They have no idea what they are doing and do not care to learn if it is any inconvenience, and they normally neglect their dogs to the point of abuse. Trendy poodle mixes are among the most frequently poorly behaved dogs I see.
Shocking. My sister had a horrible dog that ripped off my nieces ear and attacked everything in sight. No training. He was a bull terrier. My sister was always bruised. She treated him like a newborn baby. Even after he ripped my nieces ear off she would not euthanize him. She actually blamed the bite on her smaller mix breed dog at the hospital. My family expected it to happen. Now she owns a Pitt bull. She should never own a dog. She thinks dog training is abuse.
Who else first read the title as 'My _Cockatoo_ Bit Off the Tip of My Grandson's Nose'? Because I've heard that those birds can be insane, and they have the bite force of a husky. The next thing I thought was hoping she was planning to pay for her grandson's reconstructive surgery.
I babysit a cockatoo and trust me, the bite is the same as being bit by a German Shepherd. I have nerve damage in the tip of my finger. Cockatoos are like toodlers with attitudes
Just my 5 c but I have experienced that Cocker Spaniel dogs do lean towards aggression so there may be a genetic component. When I hear "my dog is so protective of me" or "my dog is so jealous" then I understand that the dog is actually resource guarding the person who has probably coddled the dog into this negative behaviour - no leadership from the person. Just my 5 c. Unfortunately this dog has practiced this aggressive behaviour so much that it believes this is how the biscuit crumbles.
I had a shih tzu she tried to snap at the cat when she was in my lap...these small dogs ...anyway, everytime she tried that she got immediately ejected from my lap...pretty soon, I had a lap filled with dog And cat. Took a little persistence but, that behavior is a No No!
I have very close to same situation years ago except I would not take to rescue. A Dalmatian with quite a bit of obedience training made a noise (later learned low throat growl) and I turned and dove for himself as he was going for my young teens throat. I talked with my even younger daughter who handled him a lot and she said he had been “looking at her different” and she would put him up. Sadly he had to go. Have had many more dogs but only my two children that I would protect with my life. My first fully trained dog was shot 4 times in my house during attempted burglary when I was 9 months pregnant. He lived but lost a leg and his mind. Went after my new baby in my arms .. Once. Never questioned my decision. You give good sincere breakdown and advice. Thank you!
The family should not have allowed the dog to be exposed to children, as clearly it was a tiger for the dog aggression. My very mellow Daschund (and it is mellow for the breed standards) is reactive to young pups, guess what I don’t let him near a young pup. End off, minimise the triggers minimise the reactivity. How Ziggy was allowed to go near children and worse infants perplexes me.
She wanted to rehome the dog or do a b&t and have someone else "fix" the dog, but she didn't mention trying to work with a trainer or trying to work on HERSELF. This dog sounds dangerous and I agree with BE in this case, but she also lacks personal responsibility to improve herself as a dog owner. I agree that she shouldn't own another dog.
I understand the grief and mixed feelings of this owner but when my toddler was playing quietly by herself in the sand and my boxer/lab cross, walked up to her and snapped at her face for absolutely no reason I took responsibility. I didn’t hand it over to the shelter where he came from. Our dog’s eyes would sort of go blank, he’d go into a quick rage and snap and bite then a 30 seconds or a minute or two later he was back to himself and wagging his tale. We had rescued him and adored him, but absolutely nothing on this earth was going to harm my child. I brought him to trainers who said he was wonderful, I went to my vet who quietly explained I could not give him to another home where someone else would be in danger and the only option was euthanasia. It was one of the most emotionally devastating things we ever had to do, he was only about 2. We cried and grieved and were overwhelmed with guilt….but my child’s life was non-negotiable and so was every other child and person. His disorder (at least back 27 years ago) was called Sudden Rage Syndrome. I never rescued another dog again until 8 months ago. We now have 3 wonderful rescue dogs and they all have good, loving dispositions: a sweet Pitbull, a fabulous German Shepherd and my adorable Bluetick coonhound. When a person has empathy and a heart full of love, euthanasia is a hard, hard decision to make, but the safety of children always comes first.
Owning a reactive dog is constant hard work. You need to be honest with yourself and have the nerves to do what's necessary. You can't love aggression away. You need knowledge and patience. Too many dog owners make the mistake that this lady made.
Also there is the cocker rage syndrom and they have to take him to a vet to check it, if it is an organic problem. I am sorry for the loss of a family member, but it is more important to have a safe live for all of us.
Our GSD-Husky Mix is so protective of children and would never allow dogs with bad energy come close /much less attack. He once constantly blocked a terrier from two children (what almost frustrated me), when the owner suddenlyn told us he bites with no preceeding signs. We all were shocked that he was unleashed, espacially the parents of the children. Months later he bit a teenager and part of the ear was gone. When my dog was like 1 year old he stopped a toddler from running into the river by running and laying down in front if her until the mother could reach her. He still gets gifts from the family even though I keep asking them to stop that 😂 we never allowed any envy or humanizing of our dog, even though we love him very much. That is exactly why he has strict rules, anyone could take his food and touch him anywhere when needed (groomer/vet). When ppl spoil their dogs and treat them like children they don't love them, they just want to be loved. It is the worst that happens to dogs. They can not handle the responsibility and all-time attention. Ppl like that should in general get psychologist or a cat or both. Dogs are not responsible for the love that humans seek/need. Their loyalty and love is a wonderful byproduct of a deep relationship but it doesn't show the way that dog did. She basically killed her own dog by not managing him correctly and I feel utterly sorry for her but even more for the dog.
As a dog groomer I have to say this dog was wired wrong. There were many many cockers or copper mixes that have these traits! The woman amazed me with her mixed up priorities!
I might get some hate for this but I’m gonna say it anyway… Because of the fact that the majority of dogs are not aggressive or present major behavioral issues , I think it goes unnoticed that the majority of people are not great dog owners. Now I don’t mean that in the context of not loving them or caring for them but in the context of not training them or managing them properly . And if presented with a dog who IS aggressive, have absolutely no clue how to deal with them . Let’s say every person out there that has a dog , had one that is aggressive. I think it would immediately become apparent how poorly people manage their dogs . Again, I can almost bet this will be an unpopular opinion but it is my opinion and mine only and nobody has to like or agree with it . But I’d appreciate it if nobody was disrespectful and I will do the same . Fyi… I now consider myself a reformed ignorant dog owner . I simply didn’t know any better for a long long time . That changed forever the day I was bit by my own dog. I was determined at that point to do everything in my power to keep her unless it had been determined by the canine behaviorist I hired , that she had unprovoked aggression. I don’t have children in the home so that certainly could’ve had an impact in my decision making if I did. But I put in the work necessary to help my dog be who she is today. I have told my trainer a million times how thankful I am to her and she always responds the same way . She tells me , no, I gave you the tools but she is the way she is today because you remained committed to her training . I think we’re both right . I couldn’t have done it without her but it wouldn’t have lasted had I not put my all into it. I’m blessed to have her in my life and it brings me overwhelming joy every time I take her out somewhere and I’m complimented on her good manners and behavior.
I have a Dachshund & a Corgi, yup, kinda known to be reactive. I always tell people they're notorious nippers. Sometimes I have to reiterate this too. More so because it puts my pups in an uncomfortable position. I am their first line of defense or protection, absolutely! More oft than not, people respect this.
Any dog of mine that bites a human that is not attacking me or others it is nighty night. That is not a happy dog, and it is the owner who is the problem. People need to stop treating dogs like they are human babies. Dogs need to be trained to respect humans and humans' space immediately from birth. Praise for every good thing they do is the method to achieve success.
She should have took him to the vet not a rescue. Cockapoos are notorious for this kind of nasty. Cockers as well. I’m a groomer for 37 years. It’s not an exception. It’s genetic instability. I’ve seen in very young puppies.
Its a main reason i feel there needs2 b tight regulations for people who can AND CANT BREED ANIMALS. Ithink you should have to apply for a license and have REASON other then retail resale. The respect for breeds that have been around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS now and better education and understanding for what all goes into breeds and WHY and information as to WHY SIMPLY "TOSSING BREEDS INNA POT" and making some outrageous "pood" mix all willynilly isnt as simplistic as many think.... ...and ABSOLUTELY giving the dog the possibility for SOME MAJOR GENETIC INSTABILITIES.....not just in coat qualities, but also in TEMPERAMENT, disposition and overall internal health and longevity..... Not to mention how they behave in home settings. 💔💔💔😩❤️🩹
I’d never keep an animal that hurt a child or any member of my family. For that matter any human who was an innocent victim. Some people give animals more chances than people. Dogs like anything else can be off. Why people look for reasons that has to cause it or for bad training. It can be simply the animal is off mentally or bad breeding. If a dog disfigured a grandchild of mine I’d make that dog into house shoes. But it would have never happened in my home. A child sent to the emergency room and the dog stills stays in the house? Mom you failed your children’s safety over a animal.
Thank you so much for all these answers you've been given. Such amazing e straight answers. So many dog owners can/would benefit from them. Appreciate your professionalism and experiences shared.
My (now) wife and I have been rescuing (mostly) great danes for 22 years. They've had varying degrees of behavior problems but our latest is by far my hardest case. So much so, I've spent over a year of improving MY training skills. We've had some bites, but all what I'd term as warning bites, no blood, no broken skin. Not great a great situation BUT, we have worked with her and improved our relationship with her and her confidence. Through the training and management, like crating her when other people are in the house that the is not familiar with, making the kitchen off limits when prepping food because of her food aggression etc, she is 1000x better. Even though our incidents were NO WHERE near what the woman in this story describes, we struggled with "throwing in the towel". He have not, but it is constant work. I'd had to say, if there was ever actual damage like stitches with any of my children, that decision is already made. I love our rescue, but not at the expense of my children.
I’m in the exact same position with my dog. He nipped my niece last year, but I thought it was possibly either play or warning bc she was screaming and running by him (she wasn’t used to dogs), which he was not used to. We got him right before Covid, so he’s 5 now, and he hasn’t had very much exposure to children at all in his life. I took it seriously at the time, and was working with him and practicing an abundance of caution. My other niece was visiting and I told her and her parents about it, and all of us knew to give extra space, to try to be calm and quiet. My niece was a perfect angel, and I had my dog on a leash attached at my hip. I got up to hand her something across the coffee table, and as she reached across, there was a split second where he had access to her, and he nipped her hand. I was horrified bc I had tried so hard to prevent that. So soon after we enrolled him in a board and train program, and we have been working diligently for months to establish a system where he is under control 100% of the time so he can feel safe in the structure we provide for him. We are very gradually and extremely cautiously working on socializing him and helping him see that children are just small humans, not threats, prey, or puppies. It still makes me extremely nervous though. My husband wants to start a family, but idk if I will ever be confident about having my dog around kids. It takes one split second for somebody to be maimed for life. But he’s such a sweet, wonderful dog to adults, and everybody who meets him loves him. I just couldn’t bear the thought of having to make that impossible decision if something happened. We had no way of knowing that he would be this way when we rescued him, and I did much more than the normal dog owner in efforts to train him well as a puppy, but somehow we’re still here. It’s so difficult.
@@Sarah-ic4yu I'm not saying what you should do, but when we had our first 2 danes is when we started our family. We re-engaged with our then trainer on how to deal with dogs and new babies. I'd suggest the same but the short version we got was: the baby, everything that belongs to the baby (crib, play areas, etc) was a no go zone. I don't know if you have a solid "leave it" but that same level of aversion. And this was even with our "good" boy and our trouble girl. Ironically, our male dane was 100% afraid and didn't want anything to do with the baby and our "trouble" girl must've had some weird maternal thing kick in and she became amazing with the kids. (granted her issue/trigger was always adult males). Anyway, best of luck. It is hard work that we put in for them...good practice for the humans if/when they come along ;-)
Some dogs are mentally ill, just like people. My dog is not normal. He was bred to do a job that doesn’t exist anymore. After hearing this woman’s story, I’ve decided to rehome my dog. I have done everything I can possibly do to help him live in the situation he is in right now. I look at him as if I have a loaded gun laying around. I have to be on guard at all times. It’s not really fun, and he’s not making anybody happy right now. I think it’s right to get back to the shelter because they made the decision to rescue the dog in the first place. They made the decision to trust the adopter. They may be able to help find a new home for the dog. If they make the decision to euthanasia the dog, I think it’s their decision. I’m grateful for the five years I have had with him. Somebody was going to get this dog. I gave him the best life I could give him. I have no regrets.
I’m sorry but if a DOG BIT OFF THE TIP OF MY GRANDCHILD’S NOSE-he wouldn’t make it to the vet!!! I’d take care of him ON. THE. SPOT. Idk what the heck is wrong with y’all sitting up in here saying how AWFUL THE LADY WAS FOR NOT BEING THERE WHILE PUTTING HIM DOWN!! Instantly I’d be OVER my consideration for any dog if it BIT MY CHILD OR GRANDCHILD!! What’s wrong with you people?!! #KidsOverDOGS
Not if the kid is doing something to the dog to cause that reaction. There are children that should not be allowed around dogs too. Plus, a toddler has to be supervised at all times, and especially around animals.
Totally agree. Can't read any more of these emotional comments. This happened in my family. Our dog had to go instantly. No excuses for attacking small children.
@@ingridbergman-vz7go I found out after my dog bit my son that it was because I let him sleep in my bed so he saw it as his territory. My home was chaotic with many small children. After this happened I was told that not many dogs can handle the chaos of a bunch of little kids. We have to respect their space too.
Lol @Edie: you’re a fckn weirdo POS if you SERIOUSLY BELIEVE a CHILD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A DOG BITING IT!! Wtf?? If you have a POS dog, it’s gonna bite kids. If you have a GOOD DOG MEANT TO BE AROUND CHILDREN, it’s NOT gonna attack kids! PERIODT!
Unfortunately we can't all be cesar milan 💔💔💔👌🏾 Most people dont have the capacity and im sure poor cesar gets FLOODED DAILY with requests for help fortheir dogs from the WHOLE WORLD 💔💔💔💔😩
That dog absolutely needed a dirt nap before this last attack. It is absolutely ridiculous that small dogs get numerous chances to attack and maul people, but medium and large breeds are put down almost immediately. To prevent these attacks from happening, they should've kept him away from the children, maybe even rehomed him to someone who could properly manage him. They absolutely failed this dog.
If adult dog bites my fam once...... sorry....QUESTION. why is my 5 month dutchie/gsd stopping and staring at ghosts for half our walk, specially close to home? Ghosts or does he just know something I dont...?
Writing this as ive just had a video call off my son with blood streaming from his hand after dragging a cockapoo off his pocket bully.. fuming about these 'perfect' dogs, if it'd been the other way round the police would have been called and all hell would have broke loose... fkin raging here
Thats a really strange thing for that breed. Might be bad genetics with human aggression, sad but happens. Especially since she says its random. No cure for that, you can never trust the dog. Youd have to keep him like a isolated prisoner or put him down.
This woman is very selfish. She is not the least bit concerned or feeling guilty about all the harm she allowed that dog to cause people in her life that are her loved ones. The pain and scares, and all she cares about is that worthless vicious dog. Putting a dog down that is loved and cherished as a true family member is very very hard, I have done it and cried for nearly a year over it. Putting down a dog that vicious, would not be that hard at all. I have done that as well when a rescue turned on me. I wrote it off and called animal control right after I cleaned the wound on my arm he inflicted. Dog are on this earth to be our companions, to serve us and love us and give us something to love. They are meant to be the cherry on the cake. Not to harm us or our loved ones. Not to scare and mutilate our babies.
I don't understand why she herself didn't take him and have him euthanized. At least he wouldn't have been stuck in an unfamiliar place with strangers at the end...eh, but that is just me. Seems like it would have been the kind thing to be there for him.
The owner has obviously got some issues. Crazy really but you answer every questions so professional I would not even answer this question because its brainless. They should of taken the lady to the shelter because it sounds like she's the problem because she is the mistake, poor dog who suffers from a irresponsible dog owners.
People only talk about banning certain breeds when they often come up as causing injury or death to people and other dogs, dont know where youre from but in Australia we have a list that comes out quarterly of all the dog attack statistics by breed and the severity of the attack...whether it was on human or animal and what breed was involved, how many people were injured, how they were injured and how old the human was. The same breed hits number one by a long shot everytime.
This woman sounds like she "treats her dogs like people." The worst dogs I've ever been around were treated that way. Dogs need leadership and training. And if those don't work, the problem might be the dog's genetics. Both seem in play here.
Sounds to me like the dog was raised with no rules and boundaries within the home.....there are no bad dogs just people who dont know what their doing.
Dogs like people are all different in personality, even within the same family and breed. Some love children, some dont, some bite, some dont, some love everybody, some love one person only and just tolerate the rest of the family...its called nature, all the nuture in the world, sometimes cannot change nature. Leading people to believe that aggression or other baf behaviour can always be trained out of an animal or human is dangerous...theres no shortage of unwanted dogs or humans in the world, but the law says we can put down the unwanted dogs, its just unfortunate we cant do that for unwanted humans as well.
Put to death, not put to sleep. Dumped with strangers, burdening a rescue, spending his last ten days stressed, alone and dumped, then killed. Shameful. If you have the nuts to own a dog, have the nuts to take it to the vet and stay with it until the end.
I'm sorry, but this woman sounds to like **SHE'S THE PROBLEM** Sounds like she was way too tolerant with his behavior. She didn't say she tolerated it, BUT HER STORY indicates she allowed the dog the opportunity to bite **REPEATEDLY**
How is possible that a cokapoo bites? They are a bundle of fluff, bouncy and friendly. I quite don’t understand, where I live there are “hundreds” of puddle mixes because they are the easiest playful with children dogs to own. The family should have called the help of specialists xx
It’s always those dogs and other small dogs that attack me and my service animal. And the owners practically let it happen, letting the dog pull and snap towards us as if their dog is fifty pounds when it’s five. I’ve never encountered a nice small dog.
Have you not been around many small dogs? Small dogs are often way more aggressive than larger dogs, because the small dogs are allowed to get away with being mean. People often think that small dogs are "cute" when mean.
I'm not a professional but I'm a foster who helps rehabilitate and rehome dogs at risk of being euthed for behavior. I think this dog could have been better had it been rehomed to a more responsible owner who would have trained it and addressed it's aggression promptly. She says nothing about what she did to discipline the dog every time it attacked, which makes me think she did nothing at all which absolutely will increase the behavior as the dog realizes she has no boundaries. To me it sounds like a quite simple case of a bratty dog who was possibly resource guarding this lady and was never told "no", let alone trained or disciplined. I agree that this woman should probably not own dogs if she can't reflect on this situation and see her own faults in what happened. It's so tragic to see animals get the lethal injection for problems that almost always go back to the owners. Too many people don't respect the true level of effort and commitment that comes with a pet. They see them as cute little accessories and as soon as anything makes them not so fun and adorable anymore, it's to the curb with the trash.
One snap might represent a symptom of a "bratty dog" MULTIPLE BITES demonstrates a much bigger issue. It's not normal for a dog to maul someone even while under stress and it's not necessarily worthwhile to invest in rehabilitation while at the same time THOUSANDS of dogs who don't demonstrate aggressive behavior are being euthanized every day in this country. I appreciate what you do. There are many dogs out there who benefit from some structure and rehabilitation before being rehomed. Dogs that bite children are a huge liability. A rescue willing to take on a dog as described in this situation would be quite foolish to do so. Keep learning though, you are doing a good thing but I think it's always important to look at the big picture in situations such as this.
Plenty of dog shelters overflowing with dogs needing homes that get euthanised for no reason at all, no need to keep one alive that keeps tearing up little children. If people could be relied upon to look after dogs or be resposible at all, there wouldnt be dog shelters. Generally speaking alot of dogs are better off being euthanised than being forced to live by mankinds rules...ie if you put a collar around a humans neck and took it for a walk around the block on a leash occasionally and the rest of the time it was locked in a yard, that would be considered abuse and cruel. Yet we dont see a problem in doing that to something that loves to and is capable of running freely at 35mph for 100miles a day, or cutting out their reproductive organs before they reach puberty...if you could ask them they would probably prefer the option of death...i love my dog, but im not kidding myself that im giving him a better life than he would have if he was aloud to live as nature intended.
There is dogs needing homes everywhere. Discussing that human beings need to become nore responsible for their dogs is pointless as they never will. Rogue dogs are best put down.If youre going to save dogs, rescue the ones that are not aggressive / do not have dangerous issues. Any dog trainer will tell you that a dog can revert back to its undesired behaviour at anytime. The reality is most dogs are man made mutations of what they used to be. In Australia we shoot and trap our dingoes (our wild dogs/wolves) as they are considered pests for attacking livestock. The US does similar with their wolves. But then everyone advocates to save a pitbull when it attacks someone elses dog or child. Yet the pitbulls/domestic dogs attack and kill other dogs and humans 1,000s of times over, but noone wants to stop /get rid of the breed, yet the reality is they do this because thats what humans bred them to do. Realistically we should ban breeding of the known problem breeds and the criteria /law for ownership of any dog sould be attending an annual 6week training programme to ensure that the dog is well behaved/suitable to be in the home it is in. Most of us love our dogs, i do think if my dog attacked someone i knew badly I would put him down, (certainly i would think that should be done) but im not positive i could do it unless i was forced...The problem needs to be stopped at the start...Dont rescue problem behaviour dogs.
No professional dog trainer would want this dog. Thats a pipe dream to say what you posted. A pro would look at this as a train wreck and would not want the responsibility of putting this dog with other people - who may get dog bit. Then the pro may face a law suite because he or she knew the dog had a bite history
Why should the dog's life end when it was likely the human(s) who failed the dog? Surely, there are people capable of managing the dog instead of allowing the dog to dominate people.
If you feel like this - would you take this dog into your home if you have a child? No one who has experience in dog aggression is going to want this dog. No normal person would want to euthanize a dog. It's a terrible decision to have to make - but there are times when you have to toss in the towel
@@efrawley55 Taking a biter animal into a home with a child or children by someone incapable of "managing" the dog would not be a reasonable or rational decision for anyone. Did you pay attention to the fact that I said, "Surely, there are people capable of managing the dog." I could manage such a dog and would not throw in the towel. Human failures should not cost a dog its life. We throw in the towel with people too and the results tend to be the same.
@@timmiet47321 There may be a limited number of people capable of managing a dog like this. My point is 99.9999% of them want nothing to do with it because there are so many nice dogs in shelters that need and deserve a good home.
@@efrawley55 You mean most of those dogs for which the adopters have almost zero idea of their pasts? Those dogs? Yikes. That's about as risky as those who either take in or keep a biter animal knowing they don't have any idea of how to manage or train such a dog.
@@timmiet47321 Yep thats exactly what I am saying. People like this drop a dog off at a shelter - rescue and dont tell the rescue the honest to god truth about the dogs bite history. Then the shelter is run by nice people who volunteer who want to do a nice thing - but they have zero to no experience with temperament testing a dog like this. So they rehome it only for the dog to get thru the 2 week honeymoon period and show its real self - then somone gets dog biut. Once a dog can practice biting humans they get better and better at it for less and less reasons.
A child's nose/face was deformed for life and all the sympathy is for a dog named ziggy .... what a mother/woman she is , maybe if it was her daughter there would be some concern ... this man didnt mention it or much concern either
What’s frustrating for me, is not only whether he should be put down at this point (from how much damage he has done I definitely agree with Ed) but why it’s now THE RESCUE’S job to do so. Why aren’t you being responsible and holding your dog as he’s euthanized, and making the call for not only your pet but for your family?! This is YOUR PET and YOUR FAMILY. You made a commitment, and you should be there at the end of his life too. Not passing this awful hard decision to someone else who doesn’t even know him and leaving him scared and alone in his last minutes.
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They're terrible people and I'm being nice right now.
Yes, and well said, even though "my" Ziggy was an aggressive little shit (most likely due to her overindulgence) she should have done the right thing by him and been there.
Exactly!
Yeah totally agree with you!
Owning two poodle mixes by trendy names says everything we need to know about the owner's ability and why their incompetence ended up with a child being disfigured.
I agree. Far too much -oodles out there. Not that I think they are bad dogs, but they are too often taken by owners just to have something special or because they are cute. Just the same with many small dogs. „Isn‘t my Westie a cute boy?“. yes, but he is still a terrier! A.s.o.
@@roschanvargonay9820 very good comment. Nothing more to add, just 100% agreement. Terriers are some of the most driven, and poodles were originally hunting dogs as well and even their smaller breed counterparts are still clever, energetic, confident dogs. No person on this world should get a dog only for looks, always regard temperament first and only choose the one that looks best from those who suit the owner with regards to temperament!
Hard to say. The mix usually makes a nice house dog. Who knows what’s going on? Not enough info.
@@WDLC1911 The problem isn't the mix. Its the kind of people who buy these mixes, hereby supporting the 100% BYB/mills that produce them. They are the kind of people who don't do research, aren't prepared to meet any of the dog's needs, and only chose their dog for image. They are overall terrible owners. They have no idea what they are doing and do not care to learn if it is any inconvenience, and they normally neglect their dogs to the point of abuse. Trendy poodle mixes are among the most frequently poorly behaved dogs I see.
Shocking. My sister had a horrible dog that ripped off my nieces ear and attacked everything in sight. No training. He was a bull terrier. My sister was always bruised. She treated him like a newborn baby. Even after he ripped my nieces ear off she would not euthanize him. She actually blamed the bite on her smaller mix breed dog at the hospital. My family expected it to happen. Now she owns a Pitt bull. She should never own a dog. She thinks dog training is abuse.
Your poor niece. What a horrific experience.
She needed to be sued into oblivion.
She owns a pitbull now? That's scary
@@Slam-, but the English Bull Terrier wasn’t???
@@WDLC1911 both scary tbh
Who else first read the title as 'My _Cockatoo_ Bit Off the Tip of My Grandson's Nose'? Because I've heard that those birds can be insane, and they have the bite force of a husky.
The next thing I thought was hoping she was planning to pay for her grandson's reconstructive surgery.
I babysit a cockatoo and trust me, the bite is the same as being bit by a German Shepherd. I have nerve damage in the tip of my finger. Cockatoos are like toodlers with attitudes
Just my 5 c but I have experienced that Cocker Spaniel dogs do lean towards aggression so there may be a genetic component. When I hear "my dog is so protective of me" or "my dog is so jealous" then I understand that the dog is actually resource guarding the person who has probably coddled the dog into this negative behaviour - no leadership from the person. Just my 5 c. Unfortunately this dog has practiced this aggressive behaviour so much that it believes this is how the biscuit crumbles.
I totally agree.
I had a shih tzu she tried to snap at the cat when she was in my lap...these small dogs ...anyway, everytime she tried that she got immediately ejected from my lap...pretty soon, I had a lap filled with dog And cat. Took a little persistence but, that behavior is a No No!
I have very close to same situation years ago except I would not take to rescue. A Dalmatian with quite a bit of obedience training made a noise (later learned low throat growl) and I turned and dove for himself as he was going for my young teens throat. I talked with my even younger daughter who handled him a lot and she said he had been “looking at her different” and she would put him up. Sadly he had to go. Have had many more dogs but only my two children that I would protect with my life.
My first fully trained dog was shot 4 times in my house during attempted burglary when I was 9 months pregnant. He lived but lost a leg and his mind. Went after my new baby in my arms .. Once.
Never questioned my decision.
You give good sincere breakdown and advice. Thank you!
You are a good mother. Grounded in reality.
The family should not have allowed the dog to be exposed to children, as clearly it was a tiger for the dog aggression. My very mellow Daschund (and it is mellow for the breed standards) is reactive to young pups, guess what I don’t let him near a young pup. End off, minimise the triggers minimise the reactivity. How Ziggy was allowed to go near children and worse infants perplexes me.
This story is infuriating. How does this dog keep getting more opportunities to maim and destroy? Unbelievable!
She wanted to rehome the dog or do a b&t and have someone else "fix" the dog, but she didn't mention trying to work with a trainer or trying to work on HERSELF. This dog sounds dangerous and I agree with BE in this case, but she also lacks personal responsibility to improve herself as a dog owner. I agree that she shouldn't own another dog.
I understand the grief and mixed feelings of this owner but when my toddler was playing quietly by herself in the sand and my boxer/lab cross, walked up to her and snapped at her face for absolutely no reason I took responsibility. I didn’t hand it over to the shelter where he came from. Our dog’s eyes would sort of go blank, he’d go into a quick rage and snap and bite then a 30 seconds or a minute or two later he was back to himself and wagging his tale. We had rescued him and adored him, but absolutely nothing on this earth was going to harm my child. I brought him to trainers who said he was wonderful, I went to my vet who quietly explained I could not give him to another home where someone else would be in danger and the only option was euthanasia. It was one of the most emotionally devastating things we ever had to do, he was only about 2. We cried and grieved and were overwhelmed with guilt….but my child’s life was non-negotiable and so was every other child and person. His disorder (at least back 27 years ago) was called Sudden Rage Syndrome. I never rescued another dog again until 8 months ago. We now have 3 wonderful rescue dogs and they all have good, loving dispositions: a sweet Pitbull, a fabulous German Shepherd and my adorable Bluetick coonhound. When a person has empathy and a heart full of love, euthanasia is a hard, hard decision to make, but the safety of children always comes first.
Euthanasia is also a kind act, imagine how the dog struggled. ❤🩹
Amen
Should've taken him to the vet herself, rather than make it a rescues problem. 🚮🚮🚮
Owning a reactive dog is constant hard work. You need to be honest with yourself and have the nerves to do what's necessary. You can't love aggression away. You need knowledge and patience. Too many dog owners make the mistake that this lady made.
Also there is the cocker rage syndrom and they have to take him to a vet to check it, if it is an organic problem. I am sorry for the loss of a family member, but it is more important to have a safe live for all of us.
Our GSD-Husky Mix is so protective of children and would never allow dogs with bad energy come close /much less attack. He once constantly blocked a terrier from two children (what almost frustrated me), when the owner suddenlyn told us he bites with no preceeding signs. We all were shocked that he was unleashed, espacially the parents of the children. Months later he bit a teenager and part of the ear was gone. When my dog was like 1 year old he stopped a toddler from running into the river by running and laying down in front if her until the mother could reach her. He still gets gifts from the family even though I keep asking them to stop that 😂 we never allowed any envy or humanizing of our dog, even though we love him very much. That is exactly why he has strict rules, anyone could take his food and touch him anywhere when needed (groomer/vet). When ppl spoil their dogs and treat them like children they don't love them, they just want to be loved. It is the worst that happens to dogs. They can not handle the responsibility and all-time attention. Ppl like that should in general get psychologist or a cat or both. Dogs are not responsible for the love that humans seek/need. Their loyalty and love is a wonderful byproduct of a deep relationship but it doesn't show the way that dog did. She basically killed her own dog by not managing him correctly and I feel utterly sorry for her but even more for the dog.
Unbelievable ...she can't be a dog owner....
As a dog groomer I have to say this dog was wired wrong. There were many many cockers or copper mixes that have these traits!
The woman amazed me with her mixed up priorities!
one bite is one to many...some people need not have dogs...
I might get some hate for this but I’m gonna say it anyway…
Because of the fact that the majority of dogs are not aggressive or present major behavioral issues , I think it goes unnoticed that the majority of people are not great dog owners. Now I don’t mean that in the context of not loving them or caring for them but in the context of not training them or managing them properly . And if presented with a dog who IS aggressive, have absolutely no clue how to deal with them . Let’s say every person out there that has a dog , had one that is aggressive. I think it would immediately become apparent how poorly people manage their dogs .
Again, I can almost bet this will be an unpopular opinion but it is my opinion and mine only and nobody has to like or agree with it . But I’d appreciate it if nobody was disrespectful and I will do the same .
Fyi… I now consider myself a reformed ignorant dog owner . I simply didn’t know any better for a long long time . That changed forever the day I was bit by my own dog. I was determined at that point to do everything in my power to keep her unless it had been determined by the canine behaviorist I hired , that she had unprovoked aggression. I don’t have children in the home so that certainly could’ve had an impact in my decision making if I did. But I put in the work necessary to help my dog be who she is today. I have told my trainer a million times how thankful I am to her and she always responds the same way . She tells me , no, I gave you the tools but she is the way she is today because you remained committed to her training . I think we’re both right . I couldn’t have done it without her but it wouldn’t have lasted had I not put my all into it. I’m blessed to have her in my life and it brings me overwhelming joy every time I take her out somewhere and I’m complimented on her good manners and behavior.
I have a Dachshund & a Corgi, yup, kinda known to be reactive. I always tell people they're notorious nippers.
Sometimes I have to reiterate this too. More so because it puts my pups in an uncomfortable position.
I am their first line of defense or protection, absolutely!
More oft than not, people respect this.
I’ve only been bit twice by a dog - both times it was a cocker spaniel. Once in the face, once in the leg tore through my jeans
That woman had no business with owning any animal. She should have got that dog help from day 1.
Any dog of mine that bites a human that is not attacking me or others it is nighty night. That is not a happy dog, and it is the owner who is the problem. People need to stop treating dogs like they are human babies. Dogs need to be trained to respect humans and humans' space immediately from birth. Praise for every good thing they do is the method to achieve success.
She should have took him to the vet not a rescue. Cockapoos are notorious for this kind of nasty. Cockers as well. I’m a groomer for 37 years. It’s not an exception. It’s genetic instability. I’ve seen in very young puppies.
Its a main reason i feel there needs2 b tight regulations for people who can AND CANT BREED ANIMALS.
Ithink you should have to apply for a license and have REASON other then retail resale.
The respect for breeds that have been around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS now and better education and understanding for what all goes into breeds and WHY and information as to WHY SIMPLY "TOSSING BREEDS INNA POT" and making some outrageous "pood" mix all willynilly isnt as simplistic as many think....
...and ABSOLUTELY giving the dog the possibility for SOME MAJOR GENETIC INSTABILITIES.....not just in coat qualities, but also in TEMPERAMENT, disposition and overall internal health and longevity.....
Not to mention how they behave in home settings.
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It’s obvious the owner need to properly train they’re dog… and why don’t they tell they’re family not to put their face in the dog face ?
I’d never keep an animal that hurt a child or any member of my family. For that matter any human who was an innocent victim. Some people give animals more chances than people. Dogs like anything else can be off. Why people look for reasons that has to cause it or for bad training. It can be simply the animal is off mentally or bad breeding. If a dog disfigured a grandchild of mine I’d make that dog into house shoes. But it would have never happened in my home. A child sent to the emergency room and the dog stills stays in the house? Mom you failed your children’s safety over a animal.
Thank you so much for all these answers you've been given. Such amazing e straight answers. So many dog owners can/would benefit from them. Appreciate your professionalism and experiences shared.
This woman is ridiculous
My (now) wife and I have been rescuing (mostly) great danes for 22 years. They've had varying degrees of behavior problems but our latest is by far my hardest case. So much so, I've spent over a year of improving MY training skills. We've had some bites, but all what I'd term as warning bites, no blood, no broken skin. Not great a great situation BUT, we have worked with her and improved our relationship with her and her confidence. Through the training and management, like crating her when other people are in the house that the is not familiar with, making the kitchen off limits when prepping food because of her food aggression etc, she is 1000x better. Even though our incidents were NO WHERE near what the woman in this story describes, we struggled with "throwing in the towel". He have not, but it is constant work. I'd had to say, if there was ever actual damage like stitches with any of my children, that decision is already made. I love our rescue, but not at the expense of my children.
I’m in the exact same position with my dog. He nipped my niece last year, but I thought it was possibly either play or warning bc she was screaming and running by him (she wasn’t used to dogs), which he was not used to. We got him right before Covid, so he’s 5 now, and he hasn’t had very much exposure to children at all in his life. I took it seriously at the time, and was working with him and practicing an abundance of caution. My other niece was visiting and I told her and her parents about it, and all of us knew to give extra space, to try to be calm and quiet. My niece was a perfect angel, and I had my dog on a leash attached at my hip. I got up to hand her something across the coffee table, and as she reached across, there was a split second where he had access to her, and he nipped her hand. I was horrified bc I had tried so hard to prevent that. So soon after we enrolled him in a board and train program, and we have been working diligently for months to establish a system where he is under control 100% of the time so he can feel safe in the structure we provide for him. We are very gradually and extremely cautiously working on socializing him and helping him see that children are just small humans, not threats, prey, or puppies.
It still makes me extremely nervous though. My husband wants to start a family, but idk if I will ever be confident about having my dog around kids. It takes one split second for somebody to be maimed for life. But he’s such a sweet, wonderful dog to adults, and everybody who meets him loves him. I just couldn’t bear the thought of having to make that impossible decision if something happened. We had no way of knowing that he would be this way when we rescued him, and I did much more than the normal dog owner in efforts to train him well as a puppy, but somehow we’re still here. It’s so difficult.
@@Sarah-ic4yu I'm not saying what you should do, but when we had our first 2 danes is when we started our family. We re-engaged with our then trainer on how to deal with dogs and new babies. I'd suggest the same but the short version we got was: the baby, everything that belongs to the baby (crib, play areas, etc) was a no go zone. I don't know if you have a solid "leave it" but that same level of aversion. And this was even with our "good" boy and our trouble girl. Ironically, our male dane was 100% afraid and didn't want anything to do with the baby and our "trouble" girl must've had some weird maternal thing kick in and she became amazing with the kids. (granted her issue/trigger was always adult males). Anyway, best of luck. It is hard work that we put in for them...good practice for the humans if/when they come along ;-)
Some dogs are mentally ill, just like people. My dog is not normal. He was bred to do a job that doesn’t exist anymore. After hearing this woman’s story, I’ve decided to rehome my dog. I have done everything I can possibly do to help him live in the situation he is in right now. I look at him as if I have a loaded gun laying around. I have to be on guard at all times. It’s not really fun, and he’s not making anybody happy right now. I think it’s right to get back to the shelter because they made the decision to rescue the dog in the first place. They made the decision to trust the adopter. They may be able to help find a new home for the dog. If they make the decision to euthanasia the dog, I think it’s their decision. I’m grateful for the five years I have had with him. Somebody was going to get this dog. I gave him the best life I could give him. I have no regrets.
How many people have to be injured by this dog? I absolutely Love animals but…Like people, some animals are just not right. PUT ZIGGY DOWN!!!
I’m sorry but if a DOG BIT OFF THE TIP OF MY GRANDCHILD’S NOSE-he wouldn’t make it to the vet!!! I’d take care of him ON. THE. SPOT. Idk what the heck is wrong with y’all sitting up in here saying how AWFUL THE LADY WAS FOR NOT BEING THERE WHILE PUTTING HIM DOWN!! Instantly I’d be OVER my consideration for any dog if it BIT MY CHILD OR GRANDCHILD!! What’s wrong with you people?!! #KidsOverDOGS
My thoughts EXACTLY.
Not if the kid is doing something to the dog to cause that reaction. There are children that should not be allowed around dogs too. Plus, a toddler has to be supervised at all times, and especially around animals.
Totally agree. Can't read any more of these emotional comments. This happened in my family. Our dog had to go instantly. No excuses for attacking small children.
@@ingridbergman-vz7go I found out after my dog bit my son that it was because I let him sleep in my bed so he saw it as his territory. My home was chaotic with many small children. After this happened I was told that not many dogs can handle the chaos of a bunch of little kids. We have to respect their space too.
Lol @Edie: you’re a fckn weirdo POS if you SERIOUSLY BELIEVE a CHILD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A DOG BITING IT!! Wtf?? If you have a POS dog, it’s gonna bite kids. If you have a GOOD DOG MEANT TO BE AROUND CHILDREN, it’s NOT gonna attack kids! PERIODT!
Cesar, I'm sure, would have a different opinion.
Unfortunately we can't all be cesar milan 💔💔💔👌🏾
Most people dont have the capacity and im sure poor cesar gets FLOODED DAILY with requests for help fortheir dogs from the WHOLE WORLD 💔💔💔💔😩
My neighbours has a cockapoon and it is aggressive. I have had.to report it to the council.and police
I'm surprised child services hasn't been called. That is negligence on the owner's part.
That dog absolutely needed a dirt nap before this last attack. It is absolutely ridiculous that small dogs get numerous chances to attack and maul people, but medium and large breeds are put down almost immediately.
To prevent these attacks from happening, they should've kept him away from the children, maybe even rehomed him to someone who could properly manage him. They absolutely failed this dog.
So, then why should the dog's life end when it was the humans who failed?
Off?!!!! 😵
If adult dog bites my fam once...... sorry....QUESTION. why is my 5 month dutchie/gsd stopping and staring at ghosts for half our walk, specially close to home? Ghosts or does he just know something I dont...?
Dogs notice and know many things we don't.
People who knowingly take a repeat biter to a rescue shelter to be rehomed should be prosecuted when it bites again.
Writing this as ive just had a video call off my son with blood streaming from his hand after dragging a cockapoo off his pocket bully.. fuming about these 'perfect' dogs, if it'd been the other way round the police would have been called and all hell would have broke loose... fkin raging here
I've got 1 beagle and 3 yorkies . All good dogs, I love them , they love me
Thats a really strange thing for that breed. Might be bad genetics with human aggression, sad but happens. Especially since she says its random. No cure for that, you can never trust the dog. Youd have to keep him like a isolated prisoner or put him down.
This woman is very selfish. She is not the least bit concerned or feeling guilty about all the harm she allowed that dog to cause people in her life that are her loved ones. The pain and scares, and all she cares about is that worthless vicious dog. Putting a dog down that is loved and cherished as a true family member is very very hard, I have done it and cried for nearly a year over it. Putting down a dog that vicious, would not be that hard at all. I have done that as well when a rescue turned on me. I wrote it off and called animal control right after I cleaned the wound on my arm he inflicted. Dog are on this earth to be our companions, to serve us and love us and give us something to love. They are meant to be the cherry on the cake. Not to harm us or our loved ones. Not to scare and mutilate our babies.
I don't understand why she herself didn't take him and have him euthanized. At least he wouldn't have been stuck in an unfamiliar place with strangers at the end...eh, but that is just me. Seems like it would have been the kind thing to be there for him.
She didn't care about that dog, only herself.
@@Slam- yeah, you're right. That just sucks.
The owner has obviously got some issues.
Crazy really but you answer every questions so professional I would not even answer this question because its brainless.
They should of taken the lady to the shelter because it sounds like she's the problem because she is the mistake, poor dog who suffers from a irresponsible dog owners.
Weird how there's no swarm of comments saying Cockapoos should be banned or that they're all aggressive....
Probably because this is the first time many people have ever read of a cockapoo causing a serious injury to a human or anything else.
People only talk about banning certain breeds when they often come up as causing injury or death to people and other dogs, dont know where youre from but in Australia we have a list that comes out quarterly of all the dog attack statistics by breed and the severity of the attack...whether it was on human or animal and what breed was involved, how many people were injured, how they were injured and how old the human was. The same breed hits number one by a long shot everytime.
This woman sounds like she "treats her dogs like people." The worst dogs I've ever been around were treated that way. Dogs need leadership and training. And if those don't work, the problem might be the dog's genetics. Both seem in play here.
A serial biter just cannot be trusted.
Hire a dog rehabber after the child's surgery is done...
Sounds to me like the dog was raised with no rules and boundaries within the home.....there are no bad dogs just people who dont know what their doing.
Dogs like people are all different in personality, even within the same family and breed. Some love children, some dont, some bite, some dont, some love everybody, some love one person only and just tolerate the rest of the family...its called nature, all the nuture in the world, sometimes cannot change nature. Leading people to believe that aggression or other baf behaviour can always be trained out of an animal or human is dangerous...theres no shortage of unwanted dogs or humans in the world, but the law says we can put down the unwanted dogs, its just unfortunate we cant do that for unwanted humans as well.
I've been telling my daughter for years
**NOT BAD DOGS, BAD OWNERS** I'm sure there are exceptions...but owners must be realistic & **RESPONSIBLE**
Put to death, not put to sleep. Dumped with strangers, burdening a rescue, spending his last ten days stressed, alone and dumped, then killed. Shameful. If you have the nuts to own a dog, have the nuts to take it to the vet and stay with it until the end.
I'm sorry, but this woman sounds to like **SHE'S THE PROBLEM**
Sounds like she was way too tolerant with his behavior. She didn't say she tolerated it, BUT HER STORY indicates she allowed the dog the opportunity to bite **REPEATEDLY**
Do u really need to ask that one ... 🔫
I feel like this person does not have a lick of common sense! 🤦♂️
How is possible that a cokapoo bites? They are a bundle of fluff, bouncy and friendly. I quite don’t understand, where I live there are “hundreds” of puddle mixes because they are the easiest playful with children dogs to own. The family should have called the help of specialists xx
It’s always those dogs and other small dogs that attack me and my service animal. And the owners practically let it happen, letting the dog pull and snap towards us as if their dog is fifty pounds when it’s five. I’ve never encountered a nice small dog.
There's absolutely NO way to know if a "doodle" will be nice or not. It's a mutt.
Have you not been around many small dogs? Small dogs are often way more aggressive than larger dogs, because the small dogs are allowed to get away with being mean. People often think that small dogs are "cute" when mean.
Every dog is different. You can’t make sweeping generalizations about any breed; there will always be outliers
Please research aggression in cocker spaniels, therein lies your answer. Genetics matter.
All I can say is don't get another dog your the problem
I'm not a professional but I'm a foster who helps rehabilitate and rehome dogs at risk of being euthed for behavior. I think this dog could have been better had it been rehomed to a more responsible owner who would have trained it and addressed it's aggression promptly. She says nothing about what she did to discipline the dog every time it attacked, which makes me think she did nothing at all which absolutely will increase the behavior as the dog realizes she has no boundaries. To me it sounds like a quite simple case of a bratty dog who was possibly resource guarding this lady and was never told "no", let alone trained or disciplined. I agree that this woman should probably not own dogs if she can't reflect on this situation and see her own faults in what happened. It's so tragic to see animals get the lethal injection for problems that almost always go back to the owners. Too many people don't respect the true level of effort and commitment that comes with a pet. They see them as cute little accessories and as soon as anything makes them not so fun and adorable anymore, it's to the curb with the trash.
One snap might represent a symptom of a "bratty dog" MULTIPLE BITES demonstrates a much bigger issue. It's not normal for a dog to maul someone even while under stress and it's not necessarily worthwhile to invest in rehabilitation while at the same time THOUSANDS of dogs who don't demonstrate aggressive behavior are being euthanized every day in this country.
I appreciate what you do. There are many dogs out there who benefit from some structure and rehabilitation before being rehomed. Dogs that bite children are a huge liability. A rescue willing to take on a dog as described in this situation would be quite foolish to do so.
Keep learning though, you are doing a good thing but I think it's always important to look at the big picture in situations such as this.
Plenty of dog shelters overflowing with dogs needing homes that get euthanised for no reason at all, no need to keep one alive that keeps tearing up little children. If people could be relied upon to look after dogs or be resposible at all, there wouldnt be dog shelters. Generally speaking alot of dogs are better off being euthanised than being forced to live by mankinds rules...ie if you put a collar around a humans neck and took it for a walk around the block on a leash occasionally and the rest of the time it was locked in a yard, that would be considered abuse and cruel. Yet we dont see a problem in doing that to something that loves to and is capable of running freely at 35mph for 100miles a day, or cutting out their reproductive organs before they reach puberty...if you could ask them they would probably prefer the option of death...i love my dog, but im not kidding myself that im giving him a better life than he would have if he was aloud to live as nature intended.
There is dogs needing homes everywhere. Discussing that human beings need to become nore responsible for their dogs is pointless as they never will. Rogue dogs are best put down.If youre going to save dogs, rescue the ones that are not aggressive / do not have dangerous issues. Any dog trainer will tell you that a dog can revert back to its undesired behaviour at anytime. The reality is most dogs are man made mutations of what they used to be. In Australia we shoot and trap our dingoes (our wild dogs/wolves) as they are considered pests for attacking livestock. The US does similar with their wolves. But then everyone advocates to save a pitbull when it attacks someone elses dog or child. Yet the pitbulls/domestic dogs attack and kill other dogs and humans 1,000s of times over, but noone wants to stop /get rid of the breed, yet the reality is they do this because thats what humans bred them to do. Realistically we should ban breeding of the known problem breeds and the criteria /law for ownership of any dog sould be attending an annual 6week training programme to ensure that the dog is well behaved/suitable to be in the home it is in. Most of us love our dogs, i do think if my dog attacked someone i knew badly I would put him down, (certainly i would think that should be done) but im not positive i could do it unless i was forced...The problem needs to be stopped at the start...Dont rescue problem behaviour dogs.
I don't think you should say that Ed. He might do well with a professional trainer. We don't know how the family has been keeping him.
No professional dog trainer would want this dog. Thats a pipe dream to say what you posted. A pro would look at this as a train wreck and would not want the responsibility of putting this dog with other people - who may get dog bit. Then the pro may face a law suite because he or she knew the dog had a bite history
Why should the dog's life end when it was likely the human(s) who failed the dog? Surely, there are people capable of managing the dog instead of allowing the dog to dominate people.
If you feel like this - would you take this dog into your home if you have a child? No one who has experience in dog aggression is going to want this dog. No normal person would want to euthanize a dog. It's a terrible decision to have to make - but there are times when you have to toss in the towel
@@efrawley55 Taking a biter animal into a home with a child or children by someone incapable of "managing" the dog would not be a reasonable or rational decision for anyone. Did you pay attention to the fact that I said, "Surely, there are people capable of managing the dog."
I could manage such a dog and would not throw in the towel. Human failures should not cost a dog its life. We throw in the towel with people too and the results tend to be the same.
@@timmiet47321 There may be a limited number of people capable of managing a dog like this. My point is 99.9999% of them want nothing to do with it because there are so many nice dogs in shelters that need and deserve a good home.
@@efrawley55 You mean most of those dogs for which the adopters have almost zero idea of their pasts? Those dogs? Yikes. That's about as risky as those who either take in or keep a biter animal knowing they don't have any idea of how to manage or train such a dog.
@@timmiet47321 Yep thats exactly what I am saying. People like this drop a dog off at a shelter - rescue and dont tell the rescue the honest to god truth about the dogs bite history. Then the shelter is run by nice people who volunteer who want to do a nice thing - but they have zero to no experience with temperament testing a dog like this. So they rehome it only for the dog to get thru the 2 week honeymoon period and show its real self - then somone gets dog biut. Once a dog can practice biting humans they get better and better at it for less and less reasons.
Obviously get a guard dog of the same gender in order to defend the grandson.
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But then that dog would be out of control too, with such an irresponsible owner.
Did they ever check its thyroid?!
A child's nose/face was deformed for life and all the sympathy is for a dog named ziggy .... what a mother/woman she is , maybe if it was her daughter there would be some concern ... this man didnt mention it or much concern either