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What To Do When An Off Leash Dog Comes At Your Dogs
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2023
- In this video, Ed Frawley discusses how he handles off-leash dogs coming towards his dogs. This video came from Leerburg's New Online Course: Dealing with Dominant & Aggressive Dogs. This online course was made available Wednesday, April 5, 2023. This course has over 200 short videos.
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I learned that GO HOME yell when I was a kid... I was 10 years old telling stray dogs to go home... it really works
I was walking my 2 dogs the other day and there was this like, 5 year old "walking" a st. Bernard mix puppy (like 6 months old) on the other side of the road, and this dog saw us and pulled this poor child into the road while a car was coming. Where were the parents? Idk. But I had to jump into the road and grab the dog so the kid wouldn't get hit. Thankfully the puppy wasn't aggressive, but that was pretty scary for a second.
I have a Ridgeback-cur who is very sensitive about personal space and I have found that it is often the so-called friendly breeds who will come charging up to us, with the lame owner calling out, "He/she is friendly, just wants to say, 'Hi!"
Mostly they truly just want to say hi yeah. The spare time out with the owner most dogs on leash is mostly not always (their ate for sure ppl out there who really know about Species appropriate husbandry) the only time the dogs can communicate with their species. So keep calm and trust and handle the situation in questioning how ur dog would react. I had a bunch of so called aggressive dogs. All to handle. If their is a real treat.. A real man sharp dog who srsly wants to hurt or to kill u, rip.
There are so many off-leash pitbulls in Los Angeles, it's insane. My Malinois was attacked five times before her 3rd birthday. She is a Very Good Girl and did not become dog-reactive, but she has zero tolerance for uncontrolled dogs in her personal space. I don't leave the house without a body cam, pepper spray, and knife.
I go through the same thing, I hope your Malinois never gets severely attacked, my senior Pit was attacked by our neighbors German Shepherds after they had killed our cats, he was outnumbered and unfortunately didn't make it. What sucks is that the owner still has those dogs and they were never put down, they were just kept on a 10 day hold at home.
I've got Malinois and dutchies and do have a dog reactive dog due to attacks and charges. I also carry a body cam, mace and more.
After a monster attacked my Akita at a dog park, I started carrying a knife. I will use it rather than stand by helpless as my dog is being attacked. My poor Akita was so submissive but that didn’t matter , the monster pit threw her around like a rag. Why did anyone bring such an aggressive dog to a public park? I no longer go to dog parks . Thankfully that Akita did not become dog aggressive from the incident but I (still) have bad PTSD and nightmares. I am so grateful I didn’t have a dead dog that night! And that she kept her sweet disposition. She was my service dog for 10 years and it would have ruined her if she had become reactive so very lucky this incident plus a couple others did not change her
@@bbycherub2420 How horrible! It's insane that they weren't euthanized before they ever had a chance to attack your dog.
@@horsepanther I know, the dogs still terrorize us, I now have livestock guardian dogs to protect us from them but it's horrible. My Pit was 14 and was my baby since he was a puppy, I miss him everyday, he was only trying to protect my cats 💔
I had a female Australian shepherd who liked to take a poke at just about every dog she came into contact with in her life. With the ones in our household, she didn't do it until they were old and sick, and she paid dearly for it when she went after my oldest Aussie shortly before that Aussie's death. She would attack every dog who came into the home thereafter too to establish her dominance, and then she'd be fine. It was a hassle for us and not optimal for other dogs, though.
That being said, one day, I took her for a walk in my neighborhood where most of my neighbors had opted to go the invisible fencing route. It was a bad idea to go for a walk. We reached one point where there were dogs with invisible fencing yards on either side of the street barking at us. One was a dog about the same size as my Aussie, and I didn't know if it would break through and run at us. The other yard had a pair of shih tzus. It was uncomfortable for both my dog and myself. On the way back, and the ONLY way back to my house, someone let a third shih tzu out of the house, and this one either didn't have the fencing collar, the battery was dead, or it ran through the invisible fence. I have wondered if the fact that it was an older dog, that the owners may have assumed it would just stay in the yard and tried to save money on a collar when they got the two younger dogs, but I don't know which scenario is correct. Regardless, I was faced with a small dog charging me and my aggressive dog in the middle of the street.
I could see kids in the house looking through the storm door, and I started yelling at them to come get their dog. They just looked at me. I put my dog in a sit-stay, and she was obedient, but I knew in her mind, she'd already made a determination of a line that must not be crossed, and I anticipated that when that dog gave her the opportunity, she'd take him down. I knew if we attempted to walk, the dog would chase us, so we just held the sit-stay, and I kept yelling for the people to come get their dog. When I assured them that my dog WOULD attack their dog, another kid finally came out and collected the animal. I have no doubt that if my dog felt that dog posed an escalated threat to harm either of us, she would have gone after it. I also believe she was just waiting for the target to be in range. I stopped walking my dogs in our neighborhood because of the fact that many of my neighbors are too cheap and irresponsible to install fencing, so it's awkward and unsafe to walk dogs during the day, and because there are coyotes around, I don't particularly think it's safe to be walking around in the dusky or after dark hours. Which again, why wouldn't you have a fence to buy your pet a little time in the event that coyotes are around when it's out? smh
Coyotes can easily jump a 6' fence.
So guess ur dog needs a muzzle then. If ur sure about ur dog what take another dog out just because he is barking and running at u. Mostly a flat hand rising in tje air dies the job. But u still need to have ur animal under control. If he bites in such stressful situations, muzzle. Pepper spray is for real treats. If u can handle two or more another dogs coming to u, ur not the boss on this game. Human needs to stand ground.
Coyotes should get the first time they in my yard a kick in their asses, with all I have to keep my house safe and get them understanding, with my dog together their definitely not welcome here haha
@TschiTschero She was perfectly fine and controlled on a leash in a public setting. Being charged by an unfamiliar dog getting in her space and creating a perceived threat to her or me would have more than likely triggered her to go after the other dog if it was charging us and got too close.
At home, she was territorial and wanted to be the Alpha. Even with proper and prolonged introductions where we felt she was acclimated to other dogs, she just seemed to develop a tendency to want to take a poke at any other dog in the home before she would fully accept them with no further incidences of aggressive behavior. If she'd needed a muzzle, she would have had one.
I have a great Pyrenees she's 6 and a 7 month old german shepard we have had so many dogs come at us off leash and usual little ankle bitters. I stand in front of my dogs and yell at the other to get going. Specially with our young shepard. The owners of the loose dogs usually get very very offended. Specially when I say get it on a leash. It infuriates me when people do not have dogs on leash I shouldn't have to mussle my dog because other people can't keep their dog in their yard or on a leash. My husband was walking our GS and a dalmatian came running out bit our dog on back leg. My husband ended up booting the other hard in the head it took off. The owner didn't say a word luckily.... for her.
One of my neighbors had a small terrier that they would just let out their front door. There are probably cats bigger than that dog was. They had no fencing of any sort, and they didn't stay outside with the dog to monitor it while it was out. We almost ran the dog over a couple of times at night because we couldn't see her in the road. One time, we almost hit her as we were turning into our driveway as she was exiting the driveway. We couldn't see her because it was dark and she was in a blind spot due to where a car was parked on the street near the end of our drive. She would run after people walking their dogs, antagonizing them and going for the ankles, and she'd chase walkers and people on bicycles. She also crapped in my yard pretty regularly. After the 3rd incident where we'd nearly run the dog over, I went to talk to the owners. The woman told me they "didn't want to be THAT neighbor," but they persisted and were THAT neighbor throughout the life of the dog. They could have at least put in an invisible fence for the little dog since they always let it out the front door anyway. But they never did. It seems like people with little dogs are the worst about not containing their animals (at least where I live), especially if it would mean obstructing a view or inconveniencing them. But little dogs can be as aggressive, if not more so than some larger dogs.
@@charmc4152 I agree 100% it really is alot of little dogs where we live as well! Those sound like lovely neighbors!! Lol that poor dog is lucky it didn't get hurt.
As for small dogs I've been around dogs whole life and have been bitten numerous times by small breeds. It seems like owners of small dogs don't care about their dogs manners because of their size. It matters!
Your dog senses your anger and that helps create danger. Just chill. It’s a tiny dog. You caused the confrontation.
@@CO2isfake I'm pretty sure a dog running and growling amd barking snapping at my dog is not my fault. But thanks for your input. I did exactly what he said to do in that situation. I stood in front of my dog told the other to get I'm more worried about what my GS would do to alittle dog since he was attacked when he was smaller.
I have a small dog & it is my neighbor's gs that comes at us in our yard because it is just let out, I carry mace.
Thank you for this important video. Can you please do a follow up on avoiding/managing unanticipated dog fights? There's so much dangerous misinformation out there.
carry a spare slip lead in a pocket, grab the CLOSEST dog to you by the back hip area and literitly toss to the side, if they are latched and not let go u can use finger pressure under hip to detach them, SLIP LEAD THE DOG ASAP, if your dogs on leash use upwards pressure to get them into a forced sit and body block,
if no one is around, saftey first protect yourself. drop your dogs leash so it can protect itself as its unfair for a dogto defend itself while retraint. CALL FOR HELP AS LOUD AS YOU CAN, MAKE NOISE, try to call the other dog off if possible. these situations are of nightmares.
i work in a boarding facility and we do have fight protocol, ive dealt with fights alone and its not a easy or fun thing to deal with by any means, best way to avoid this is literitly what the man said in this video.
BE VIGILANT jsut because they think their dog is a good dog doesnt give them freedom to have an offleash dog in a on leash area period. anyone not following these rules should get reported.
I live in Thailand so stray dogs and owned dogs running free is very common ,I have 4rescue dogs I take out on leash every day ,so far I haven't had a problem ,if dogs come at us usually from behind we just walk on in silence with no reaction and totally ignore , it has worked every time so far . Always good to have options and know what to do if a situation gets out of hand ,thank you 😊
I was walking my yorkie in our neighborhood and he was attacked from behind by an off leash pit bull. I did not see this dog coming at all. He picked my yorkie up in his mouth. I could not get the dog to drop him. Luckily the owner saw this whole thing and got the dog to drop him. He had several lacerations but no other damage. My yorkie is still the friendliest dog ever and did not develop a fear of dogs thankfully. I always carry a walking stick now and I only walk one dog at a time so I can protect them if necessary.
So glad your dog is okay, it's crazy how people with strong breeds can be so irresponsible. It's so common for bigger dogs to attack small dogs, 2 off leash German Shepherds attacked a small on leash Poodle and killed it.
@@bbycherub2420 Thanks. This particular dog they had gotten from a shelter only 3 weeks prior. And they thought it was okay to let her run off leash in a neighborhood because "she is so sweet". This gives an idea of the intelligence level of the owner. I am so thankful my yorkie survived and also that I didn't get hurt.
I am of the opinion that people need to start suing shelters when an adopted shelter dog attacks either a dog or a person. So often, these shelters are more about just getting the dogs adopted out than making sure the people adopting the dog are competent to own that dog. They are all about saving the dog - which is fine if you are doing it responsibly - and give no care at all to what the dog might do in the hands of an inexperienced owner.
@@mamabear9389 I blame the shelters/rescues who allow novice dog owners to take a pit bull with seemingly no instructions or training. They make mistakes like this which can result in horrible consequences
It's a freaking miracle that your Yorkie survived that, let alone remained dog-friendly afterwards.
Several years ago my neighbors dog directly behind us would always jump and balance on the six foot tall cinder block wall... One day I walked into the house to grab something and their dog came over and went after my 12 week old GSD my other two shepherds chased it back... But ever since the Shepherd that got chased wouldn't tolerate strange dogs... He wouldn't attack unless the other dogs approached and smelled him... Except the dog that chased him... When he was about two years old my neighbors dog was on the wall again and my Shepherd jumped and grabbed the dog by his front paw and pulled him into our yard... I was able to get there just in time... And for the rest of his life he wouldn't allow any other dog in his space.. he never barked or paid any attention to other dogs when we walked... He was bigger than normal standing 32" at the shoulder and 120#.. I found out about his zero tolerance when another neighbors boxer was off leash and ran up to him on our walk.. all was ok until the boxer went to smell him he spun around and clamped down on his head (ear to ear) and wouldn't let go... I finally got him to let go as the neighbors came running hearing their dog.. he was the calmest Shepherd I ever had... Loved people and especially kids and if the kids bothered him he would just move away... But all it took was him being chased one time by another dog when he was a pup to shape how he was with other dogs...
Whew..what a story. I have a 2 yr old GSD rescue so I pay attention to GSD stories so I can learn everything I can to protect her. She is a bit submissive, middle of the pack, I’m her 4th owner and she’s doing fantastic now and I adore her but I don’t know what her previous experiences have been so I will take care.
Thank you for your video, saved us❤🙏
I enjoyed your honesty... very blunt, matter of fact, to the point! Thank you for sharing!
Spot on!
Totally agree with ur approach- our job is to look after our dogs..
I especially like your suggestion for dealing with the owners!
I wish more dog owners would watch this. When I see an owner with an off-leash dog, I always ask the owner, "Can you please call your dog back?"
The response I get, "She's very friendly."
That is not a valid answer to the question.
I agree - remember what I said - MY DOGS ARE NOT FRIENDLY - THEY HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH OFF LEASH DOGS - GET YOUR DOG ON LEASH !!!!
I am so glad that you are teaching this because I had a friend that wanted to force our dogs to like each other.. And my dog wasn't having it.. I know that's a different situation that you're speaking of but this just made me think of that
Oh but I know what you mean. There is people that are like, "hey let's let both of our dogs off leash so they can play with each other!" And probably you don't want your dog off leash or your dog doesn't like super playful, "annoying" dogs or something like that.
A few days ago I was walking my Plott and then saw another dog running out from a side street towards us. The dog was rather large, and saying this as a Plott owner, i really mean it, Plotts aren't small either. The woman was standing in her doorstep and screaming, really screaming on top of her lungs, like shrieking as if she was in pain, but the dog didn't come back to her. Then she startet clapping her hands and then even banging some loud plastic buckets, but the dog still was coming towards us. After all this screaming I thought the dog must be an aggressive killer and did exactly what Ed described, got between my dog and the other, but my stupid Plott puppy of course tried to get to the other dog cause she wants to play with every other dog and honestly, even though I train every day and try to encounter other dogs and train in their presence, she doesn't yet listen well enough to stay behind me each time.
End of story, the other dog slowed down, calmly sniffed my Plott, and then slowly and unbothered trotted back to its owner. I thought me and the Plott would get but for sure, but seems we were lucky that day. I think however I should follow Eds advice with the walking stick!
I always, always get abuse from dog owners who's dog charge at my dog. I am not shy about being proactive. I use a leather leash, and I have used it on dogs, I have also used it by waving it at approaching dogs, or smacking the ground. So far I've not had to upgrade to a walking stick. Never ceases to amaze me that those is the wrong scream the loudest when all you are doing is advocating for your dog and trying to avoid conflict and unnecessary vet bills
Leash laws exist for a reason, if an off leash dog comes and starts attacking me or my dog that is on a leash i will defuse the situation in any way i feel necessary, even lethal force if i feel mine or my dogs life is in danger and there is no other way, if you cant 100% trust your dog, just dont take chances that can lead to your dog or someone elses pet getting injured or killed,
We do the same, but we also started carrying one of those bug zippers that look like a tennis racket. A dog not responding to anything else really responds to getting their nose zapped.
I like it - :-) only problem if the dman dogs come through the bug racket. It wouldn't offer much of a whalop
@@LeerburgDogTraining so true, that's why we also carry a big stick. I left that part out.
That's a brilliant idea--not likely to get you into as much trouble as using a stun wand.
Perfect. Thanks to you I was able to advocate for my dog and stop a dominate dog coming for my dog. This dog had zero recall by the owner and since I didn’t have a stick I swung my bunched up long lead at it enough across its muzzle to stop it. Thank you.
Great advice. This is becoming more of an issue in public places with a leash law. So many people feel the laws and rules do not apply to them. Another tip, wear sturdy shoes and use them if necessary.
I support this 💯
Real talk!
Walking my German Shepherd, a pit bull flung the screen door open and charged us seemingly out of nowhere. There was no time for any of this and thank goodness I let go of the leash and didn’t impede my dog from defending himself. After a very fast and furious fight, (I’ve never seen anything move so fast in real life), the pit bull was on his back and my dog was holding him there. I called my dog and we left while the pit bull got up and scurried off. From that day on my dog was on the offensive with every dog, even from afar he wanted to fight and lunge any approaching dogs. So yes it ruined him in that regard, so if you have time to react like this video instructs it’s well worth the advice.
My line when owners of “friendly” dogs come up unannounced to harass mine is “Mine are rescues and not friendly so I suggest you control your dog(s) unless you want a vet bill.”
In the UK if yours is on lead and under control you are legally right. Dangerous Dog Act applies.
I'm an older woman & was walking my 2 dogs (border terrier & New Zealand heading dog) on leashes when 2 sharpeis came charging out of the woods with their owner calling out "its OK they're only young". The 2yr old well- muscled, entire male, dog knocked my heading dog off her feet with his charge. I was lucky in that I could see he was not friendly so had 1-2 seconds warning & managed to get a hard kick in to his underbelly which broke him off my dog. I dropped by leashes and told my 2 to sit stay while tried to defend my dogs from another onslaught. The offending dog kept circling us trying to get at my dogs while I faced him (as big as I could) and gradually forced a larger circle. After what seemed like an age the young woman owner got her 2 back on their leashes and was about to hurry away. Here's the real message. I ran after her and asked if we could talk and suggested we walk our dogs on leash past each other with a safe space so mine don't go away being fearful and hers don't learn they can attack other dogs. She then opened up about the difficulty she had managing them and looked at my 2 still in a sit stay where I had left them and asked my how I did that. This meant I could advise her about how serious her problems howand and where to get help. She had no idea about dogs or the dogs she had chosen but she was basically a good person. She went away thinking me. I went back to my dogs and thanked them. What I did was a simply spontaneous but I am under no illusion that if the male sharpie was a year older I could very well have been badly hurt. My message is always try (sometimes its obviously not going to be possible) to end these encounters on a good note so the other person goes away knowing they have to change their dog management, rather than being defensive, blaming your dogs with no intention to change their dogs.
A couple parks I would like you to clear out for me. 😂
I carry a pocket full of small stone-s used as shrapnel. If that doesn’t work I bring out rocks that increase blood n size. Stones and smallish rocks work really well.!
This is one of my greatest fears. I live in a wonderful area that would be great for walking my dog - but I know my limitations. If an off-leash dog is 'charging' or just coming to say 'hi' I have found it literally impossible to hold my dog. I'm no match for 120 pounds of brute determination - and mine will take the defensive - even if none is needed. I found my dog was great respecting the leash for years, until one day he bolted and my split second decision was to let go - or being dragged flat on my face. From that day on, he takes full advantage of his 'superior strength'. For years I intuitively always believed, never let your large dog know they are stronger than you - and trained them as such. This one found out I'd been fooling him so he has lost all privileges in situations where he might be tempted to test it again (although he does it every chance he gets). I think even if a professional were to train him otherwise, he would always remember 'but, I'm still stronger than her'.
I have a can of gel mace that I carry with me, and the gel is nice because it does not go airborne risking injury to myself or my dog. You can easily spray a line right across the ground and usually another animal will not cross it because they do smell it, I highly recommend that
You're so right saying once a dog is attacked it becomes dog aggressive! Happened to me . Walking my friendly setter in the park,a strange dog attacked my dog. Since then Shadow was always on the defensive.
I carry a buggy whip under my arm. I've never hit a dog with it, I just snap the ground in front of the oncoming dog, it scares the daylights out of them and they jump back. My own dogs are very impressed and now trust me to handle the problem. I used treats to get my own dogs used to the snap of the whip. The loose dogs that I encounter are super friendly Labradors, Golden Doodles, or little dogs. I cannot hit or pepper spray those types of dogs. I feel sorry for them because they have irresponsible owners. Anyone that allows their dog to run up on two German Shepherds obviously doesn't love their dog.
Yep, had a dachshund owner let his mini out when he saw me walking my GSD in a wheelchair. Since the little dog was a racer, and I was behind the chair I couldn't intercept in time. My GSD.picked her.up by the neck and all I could do was prevent him from shaking his head until he dropped her. He could have killed her., he was vulnerable , paralyzed in a wheelchair and a crazy pip squeak got in his personal space
You are exactly correct. A loose dog ran up on my two LGD (Anatolian x Mollosers) and attacked an my dogs responded to protect. Now they are reactive. Now one is going through the process of desensitization to other dogs. The other will go on hikes in the boonies where we won’t meet other dogs as she has had this happen three times and has no trust in strange dogs now.
Best advice I've heard so far!!!
I live here in a crazy country, if I defend myself here with stick and spray, or if my dog bites the other dog who is attacking, then my dog perhaps is classified as dangerous and I can get a report from the other dogs owner.
I'm pissed off, because this has happened to me multiple times... .
Once the owner of the attacking dog, which had also bitten,.. filmed me with her mobile phone how i fended off the dog with my feet when he attacked mine (which i had sent behind me and he was calm) She threatened to sue me even though i didn't do anything wrong and obviously she let her dangerous dog run free.
First of all, I tried to stop the dog with a stop signal and a loud shout. it didn't help and the woman didn't do anything. she came to me very slowly and didn't call the dog back.
The best saying is always: "They sort it out among themselves", the result is usually that one ends up to the vet.
My 15 lb dog has twice been attacked by dogs at least 3 times his size, so he couldn't help. Both times, I pulled the attacker away from my dog until its owner regained control, but I was lucky not to have been bitten. The last dog broke loose from its leash & attacked us from behind, leaving no chance to use pepper spray.
I have a fenced yard and have wanted to be able to walk my dogs for a few blocks each morning, but I don't dare try it. I see quite a few people trying to walk their dogs past my back yard who have almost no control of their dogs. One looks like an American pitt bull; he's scary-large and drags the man around on leash. The dog lunges for my fence. It scares even me, and I prefer extra large dogs - IF they are trained and controlled.
And a neighbor over block away has a bag habit of walking his Rotti off-leash. Looks like a great dog, BUT - I have no idea how he'll react if I walk down the street with my Belgian. 🤨
Sniffspot if you're in the US for unleashed dog areas
Akitas seem to attract loose aggressive dogs. Even living in a large city I encountered loose dogs. Once it was 2 small dogs, I had my Akita’s head between my legs to protect her as the little sharks nipped. I screamed for the ignorant owner to get them on a leash! Never got an apology and of course her dogs didn’t listen to her. Part of me wanted to let the Akita have at them but it seems no matter that the Akita is leashed, they get blamed if there’s injury/death.
Last week my newest Akita was walking in a suburban neighborhood on leash when a very large Doodle sort of dog came bolting out his front door straight for us. This Akita is not even a year, and I have done my best for her to never have a bad experience or reason to become dog aggressive.
I screamed at the oncoming dog to “get out of here”. He kept coming despite my yells. As he got closer I kicked at his face. That did it. He ran back home. Of course the owners were just sitting in their doorstep watching! 😡
I had a little 10 lb poodle and many times I stuck out my foot at a charging dog (if I didn't have time to pick my dog up.) The dogs were always surprised to hit my foot instead of my dog and no dog come back for more. I then started carrying pepper spray gel (gel won't blow back but it is harder to hit your target) and had to use it twice on dogs. If a dog is just trotting up and doesn't appear aggressive, I've simply step in between my dog and used my voice and body language to send the other dog off or stepped on the leash if it was wearing one. My little dog was so used to this that she would just stand in back of me and trust me to take care of things. A walking stick or even an umbrella is great defensive tool and some of those compact umbrellas have a wrist loop on them making it convenient to carry. Carrying a spare lease is another tool. My dogs would stay by themselves and I put the loose dog on a leash. People should also wear study shoes when walking their dog. Its much safer to use your feet to defend yourself and your dog when not wearing sandals.
As to those people who say that their dog is friendly, I told them my dog is vicious and sick, she had rabies or parvo.
I took my 6 month old greyhound to a quiet schoolyard for his training session. We've completed Puppy Essentials and now we're practising obedience, retrieve and tug in increasingly higher distraction environments outside my backyard. Jimmy was doing so well with his recalls until yesterday. I had sausages, homemade tuna treats, a real rabbit fur tug toy and 2 whistles. He was following me after my "come on come on come on" when we came up a hill and there across the field we saw a young woman playing Chuckit with her dog. I quickly turned and clapped and said, "come on come on come on'" but Jimmy didn't turn and follow me, no he didn't! he kept going towards her and her dog! Too late to step on his line. So I called my 1st recall, "Jimmy! pup pup pup pup pup pup!!!" Nope! He kept trotting off towards them! Ugh! So I called my formal recall, "Jimmy, COME!" nope just kept on going .. whistle 1 ... Jimmy "here here here" whistle 2 ... "come on come on you can do it!" waving his tug toy moving backwards, nope nope nope! The woman kindly stepped on his line for me while Jimmy wiggled and wagged. What to do with overly friendly Jimmy? Practice more recalls on a 10 m line? It's so discouraging! Getting to run across a field to greet a person would be very rewarding to Jimmy. I don't want it to happen again! Go back to snappy response to name holding a longer one? WHAT NEXT?
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It's sad but that's the truth
I have one of the little ankle biters, a Scottie that believes in protecting his mama, he's always on leash. I usually get pitbulls and cowdogs coming at me. Nothing is worse than dog fight, been there, it's ugly. I carry a small stunstik as well. Often the crackling buzz it makes is deterent enough. It's often quite windy where I live. Pepper spray is not an option.
Be careful with the walking stick- I used mine (I made it, looked like yours, Ed) to break up a home fight. I knocked out one of the dogs in one tap to the back of her head--I was aiming for the shoulder of the other dog ---and she later died at the vet after about $7000 in lifesaving efforts (fight injuries plus head injury). It was my dogs vs. a rescue I took back of my own breeding (abused situation and she had some behavior issues I'd been working on). I am suffering terrible guilt to this day and it was almost 2 years ago. I know, doesn't matter if the dog is going after your dog on the trail or whatnot. What you said. Sigh. I gave my stick away and now have Nordic poles, which I have also used to try to break apart a squabble another year or so before that. They do not work at all and they bend or break. Just be super aware and careful. I spayed and neutered almost all the dogs I have after that, it does help. Despite what is said out there, dogs can and will attack to kill each other. Even the nicest, trained dog that sleeps in your bedroom. Yes, you great dog trainer/behavior person! it can happen at your house! It can happen to you! You are not special! I have an excellent record of retraining/behavior mod hundreds of rescued Australian Cattle Dogs in my breed specific rescue 1990-2004. Also dogs of other difficult breeds (Medio Portuguese Podengo, Border Terrier) through the years (most recently with Kromfohrlanders which are deceptively sweet but can be very sharp when they hate a dog). If it is a strange, sick or aggressive dog they are going to do what their ancestors did and get after it. Many dogs against one, even when the victim is crying for her life. Their brains shut off. I got a nice chomp on my thumb (luckily I polish my nails, so it only broke the nail, not the digit) trying to rescue that one. She ended up with a bad Von Willebrand 1 bleeding episode after that fight and died (that was the first $7000 vet bill). All of this was within the first year or so of the pandemic and now I know there was stress on dogs during it, too according to veterinary behavioral studies. Tough to learn at your own place with your own group of dogs. Just one day at a time now after rehoming certain dogs and fixing the remainders.
Wow, hearing your experiences is very sobering.
I can imagine you feel terrible. But if you wouldn't have tried to break up the fight then probably the dogs would have killed each other anyway. As you said, that can happen! So while I understand you feel guilty, please remember that not everything our dogs to can be known beforehand 100%, and while we as dog owners and trainers can shape our dogs to 95%, they are still living beings and there are 5% or so of behavior that we cannot control because the dog is still an individual and will do unexpected things that probably have not been encountered in training situations before.
Oh man, my English is kinda weird in what I wrote, but I hope you understand what I mean! Don't feel too guilty.
I can sympathize with you - but maybe you hit the wrong dog over the head. Frankly if a stray dog attached my dogs - even if the fool handler was there - I would do anything I could to protect my dog or dogs. Do I want to kill another dog = HELL NO. Would I kill another dog that tried to attack my dog - HELL YES
I once had a horrible experience walking a dog which was half working line GSD and half Timber Wolf. I had an off lease chow come at us. I had Kali under control and was standing between the dogs. Tge chow grabbed my thigh and I went down. This was taken as a release by Kali. She took the chow out in one bite but then the chows owner called the law. Long story short I left the area that night with a dog bite that became infected and lost most all I owned.
thanks man i live in the Uk so no bear spray over here but I have bought petsafe sprayshield its uk legal its citronella i don't have much trust in it but not had to use it but i also carry security dye spray that would make the attacking dog not be able to see for a short while hopefully i want have to use it as you say i will get my self a big walking stick but i pity the fool who lets there dog near mine hes only 8 months old but he a huge American Akita' but i dont want nothing coming near my baby.
Thank you, I'd like to know if you have some advice for me. Yesterday I was walking my small spitz in the park on the lead when a very large golden retriever comes charging straight at him. My instinct was to pick up my dog over my head while this dog was trying to bite him. I am a big man and I don't too much for defending myself, I know I can handle a dog if I need to. But I was afraid for my dog whom I needed to protect. I couldn't just let him off because my dog would have died.
My question is, if a loose dog charges at my dog, do I have the right to strike that dog immediately. Should I go on the attack as soon as possible?
I stood waiting like an idiot for about 15seconds with my dog going crazy iver my head, before the owner came.
Do I kick that dog right in the teeth. Even if the owner is running towards us?
I get mixed advice about carrying a stick. While that was also my first instinct, would it also possibly make a dog angry and come after you instead of your dog?
I love this but what do we do to teach our dogs to sit stay in there’s nowhere to tie them up and they don’t sit stay they want to offend us or offend them selves. I have an intact male, and he will not allow another dog to come at me or him he will fight. He’s not a wimp, but he’s not dog aggressive unless he has to be.
Thank you Sir👍 I'm in Paris, France. Each single word of what you just said, it's what I faced each single day walking my dog along the streets, on a leash but suffering from constant "agressions" from stray dogs, mainly the large ones towards my dwarf Pinscher. "oh don't worry, my dog is very friendly...etc" and I always said "" not mine". Because my dog always felt being corned with his lead rope connected to me ! While the stray dog is free.. Idiots owners, yes definetely, who do not know the basic communication signals between dogs. I always carried the "Pet Corrector" a red bottle spray (the Company of Animals, a UK/US product). It's a repellent which sends a special sound. Just be careful not to spray their face. The aim is at frightening them away, not hurting them.
I have a neighbor and his wife who use their golden to bully the neighbors. He is a defense lawyer and she is a proven writer. All dogs in my neighborhood have been attacked by their who is unleashed while everyone else is leashed like mine. He will run a block away from his owner and attacked my 6 month old puppy. I didn’t think, I dove under him and pulled out my puppy. He tried to tear the puppies penis off, he had no scrutum. The second time I picked up my then one year old 20 lb and their dog jumped on me. Then I got the walking stick and pepper spray. The next time the owner came out I stood holding a stance and held that stick across my hands and yelled no. And he came growling. I held that stick up, and I, 100lbs, yelled then I will stop him. And the owner ran and called his dog.
I carry a heavy riding crop and a punch dagger. I will kill a dog that latches on to one of mine.
I will feel awful, but at the end of the day, my dog comes first.
I wish more people in the UK would heed this mans advice and take note of how irresponsible it is to allow their dogs to pounce on other dogs. There is a constant problem here with people having dogs off lead and saying 'my dogs are friendly' whilst allowing them to jump on and traumatise dogs that are under control and on lead.
We carry a taser or a hotshot.. Don't like spray too unpredictable
Ok, honest opinion here - love the videos from Leerburg (mostly), but some videos as too heavy on advertising on dvd, videos, homepage etc😇
I've seen enough pitbull attacks to know that eye contact, yelling and hitting with a big stick, does nothing. Maybe carry a sharp knife or machete.
"Pit Bull attacks" you mean bully mutt attacks or American Bully attacks. When will you people stop mislabeling.
@@bbycherub2420 exactly.
@@fannyw7203 nope. You’ll need a break stick to *PRY* the dog off. Hitting them seems to make them angry and they bite harder.
@@fannyw7203, there is a simple device called a break stick. Look up “Pit Bull, break stick” to see examples and how it’s utilized. It’s simple and very fast and it causes the dog no harm.
@@bbycherub2420 Like it really matters. Yes, because the behavior is *SO DIFFERENT* 🙄 You Bully people are so ridiculous. That’d be like me whining about someone saying Belgian Shepherds and German shepherds don’t both herd and guard because they’re different breeds. They’re the same breed TYPE behaviorally, same as Pits and AmBullies.
My understanding an Air Horn works well.
Works great on coyotes
I was walking my four pound min-pin years ago in California on our quiet street alone. A stray rottie came barreling out of a yard at 90 with eyes locked on my min=pin. I am telling you there was no time to think. My min-pin was on a harness so I pulled her up into my arms without bending down. The rottie kept coming eyes locked on my dog in my arms. I kicked that rottie under the jaw as hard as I could kick it. You could hear it's teeth clack a mile away. It turned tail and ran. I thought I would have a heat attack. Be ready, know what you would do and do it.
People are so weird with the ‘he’s friendly!!’ thing, if another human was sprinting towards me and I didn’t know them I would be worried about what their intentions were too. And even if the stranger is friendly, I still don’t wanna interact, I’m anti-social!
It’s always the stoopid “oh, my dog is friendly” dog owners who let their dog run around off leash miles from them, with zero recall skills, whose dog winds up attacking and biting. No boundaries, no clue. And if your on-leash dog dares to so much as bark back they’ll throw a pink fit that your dog is “dangerous”. Especially if your dog is large and theirs is an ankle biter. People suck.
Bro I literally can’t take my dog on hikes because of off leash dogs. Fuckin insane
I'm in the UK and I always respect people and there dog's and I prevent my dog from running from going over to other people's dogs but there are so many irresponsible people letting there dogs be dogs and they have no recall.
Shocking really
Great advice sir but it's a little bit different over here and I don't want any recurring issues from brain dead dog owners who have no respect for other peoples person space but I have roared at people dogs and shouted that my dog is on a lead and these people make me sick because then they say ow I ain't got no recall and all they want to do is give there dog freedom to hassle people who have got recall but have there dogs on lead. Just like a dog with no recall should be on a lead or leash as the Americans say.
We all suffer with idiots.
I had new dog owners in my area, that walk up with their dog on leash to my dog on leash expecting the dogs to be super friendly the first time they meet.
I now avoid that situation now by walking around them. You never know what's going to happen, their side or even mine.
People need to keep their dogs leashed. With the constant attacks, both people and animals, people are afraid and a lot of people are carrying.
People suck. My 5 month old labradoodle got jumped and nipped in the but from behind but a sheltie that ran off the porch. He’s pretty dog reactive
I don't walk my dogs in my neighborhood. I have no intention of getting in a physical fight with pitbulls. And yes. Our town formally outlawed them. It's not enforced.
Thought I would learn something. But all I heard was pepper spray lol
Fiiiiiirst :) carry a baton :)
This is insane, but I believe that in some jurisdictions you can get in a lot of trouble for carrying a weapon with the purpose of defending against dog attacks. So an actual walking stick gives you plausible deniability.
I have a 15.5 year old small dog, walking well but very slowly, and he trips over the leash, so I let him off leash for his end of life care in remote areas. At times I run into other people. I love owners that start screaming, thereby alarming their own dog, which makes them scream louder, and now we have a mentally deranged owner and an out of control dog.
What to do when an off leash pit bull comes at you or your dogs? Pro tip: pull out your pistol, and shoot it in the head or heart. Make sure that there isn't anything beyond the target that you don't want to destroy. Sticks and spray won't cut it.
From news stories I see, sometimes it can take several shots to stop a pit that's in an attack frenzy.
Save bear spray for owners.. lol
Now I need help with keeping my dog from attacking my other dog
Pepper spray
I carry a Glock in my front pocket.
I have no problem with anyone stepping in front of a loose dog and getting it to back off. Stick or no stick. The real problem tho is that there are so many regulations in some towns that there is absolutely no place to let a dog off leash. It seems cruel to me that a dog or many dogs are forced to live a life where they are never allowed to run. My dog is trained to stop and heel even off leash, but I feel sorry for your dog never being allowed to socialize with other dogs. They enjoy it. You are too angry and hatefull in this video.
I believe that if you have trained your dog to have a very good recall and your dog is friendly toward all people and other dogs you should have the right to walk your dog without a leash. Keeping something on you to deal with stray dogs or any dog that is obviously trying to attack you or your dogs seems reasonable to me but hitting a dog with a stick or spraying it just for coming up to you without being on a leash seems a bit ridiculous. Believe me anyone that did that to my dog would not see the light of day.
But will you be mad when my dog bites your dog? If my dog is on a leash, and your dog is running free, is it my fault, when your dog gets bitten? I always feel so sorry for the loose dog when it gets hurt.
Your dog has no right to run up to any dog. I would do what I needed to keep it away.
If your off leash dog runs up to my on leash dog it's getting shot or tazed, I've done it multiple time before to Rottweilers, German Shepherds, smaller dogs too, I don't care if your dog is "friendly". Your dog has no right to run up to random dogs as the other person stated. Saying that someone won't see the light of day for defending their dog from your badly trained dog is disgusting. So if a kid is walking their on leash reactive dog and your dog runs or walks up to it and causes a ruckus and the kid pepper sprays your dog you'd hurt the kid?
Your “belief” ends where others’ rights begin.
Leash your dog in public.
You have a lot to learn about dog training. What you posted is drop dead stupid. Its people like you that I said keep a little pepper spray for a handler that does exactly what you wrote. Its clueless people like you that cause these problems.
I would have these encounters 30x a day if I were to freely move about rather than restricting my walking routes. People are hard work !.
I wonder if you experience anxiety when facing down dogs coming at you or if you’re stone cold when dealing with them