Milwaukee 12V Cut Off Tool...What Can It Cut?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 07. 2019
- Does this Milwaukee cut off tool have enough power? This video reviews the tool and shows how it performs with tile, PVC, and different types of metal. For more home improvement tips visit www.homerepairtutor.com/đđŒ
Here are the specs for this cut off tool (model 2522-21XC)
-Powerstate brushless motor
-REDLINK plus intelligence provides optimized performance and overload protection
-REDLITHIUM XC 4.0 battery pack
-Tool free guard adjustment
-Includes accessory guard and shoe with vacuum port for dust mitigation and cut depth adjustment
-Compatible with common 3 in. cut off wheels with 3/8 in. arbor
-Includes 7/16 in. flange adapter for compatibility with 3 in. Dremel saw-max accessories
-LED light for improved visibility in confined spaces and low light situations
-Includes: M12 FUEL 3 in. compact cut off tool, 1 M12 XC4.0 battery, 1 metal cut off wheel, 1 carbide abrasive blade, 1 diamond tile blade, accessory shoe and guard, blade wrench, 7/16 in. flange adapter, M12 charger, contractor bag
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He mentions that the batteries dont have a charge indicator, that's because the m12 series tools all have indicators in the tool instead of the battery
yes, mentioned that later in the video
Yep. Stopped watching right there. Pointless âreviewâ from a simpleton who lacks such basic knowledge.
@@TheLexiconDevils indeed. Could use a tutor :)
Lexicon Devil lmao chill
I farted đ© and it smells like rice putting with cherry đ on top
When you're using the dust chute thingy, you should be cutting with the blade running in reverse. With it running forward the tool is always going to be trying to climb up the material you're cutting. It's also sending all of the kerf material away from the dust port.
we recently used Feinâs HEPA vac with their grinder and it was fantastic, that was also running the blade forward
@@HomeRepairTutor a hepa filter does not matter. Like he said you're shooting the material the opposite direction of the dust shoot. Simply reverse the blade and it will suck most of it up. Also always use water when cutting tile those blades will caught far better.
Yup you're running the tool in the wrong direction. Also the reason the tool keeps jumping going in the wrong direction
Once again the tool doesn't know tools
Being a home repair tutor these days means having a good camera and production equipment and nothing else lol.
Bought one today at HD. Works well. Might sound petty, but an onboard spot for stowing the included Allen wrench would have been handy. Great video! Thx
I work on cars for a living and I use this regularly in the Rust Belt. I've even used it to cut the top off of a ball joint when the nut would not come off I just cut the whole top of the ball joint off at the knuckle and then banged it off with a hammer. It has helped me out quite a bit
Turd McFerguson Same here,Iâve used mine a lot more than I expected. Itâs very handy for little jobs.
Did you do that with just one metal cut off blade?
@@JaasenJones yeah just 1 metal cut off blade, as matter fact I used the original the one that it came with. Of course I've had to buy some more since then LOL. But all in all I don't have any complaints about the tool. It does exactly what is advertised.
@@JohnDiMartino yeah I tend to find ways that I can use it LOL. Like I said I use the hell out of saws and Cutters up here and that is definitely one that I use quite often.
Turd McFerguson thanks for the reply. Good to know. Iâm not a mechanic by trade, but I do do my own vehicle work and custom fab for police /fire radios. I also happen to be in a rust belt up in Wisconsin, so your video helped me out.
You can use the 7/16 arbor that comes with it and use the Dremel Blade to cut wood. It's useful in tight areas were you can't fit your bulkier cutting tools.
I just use the tool to cut tile for a customer in their kitchen to put in a larger stove it worked awesome not one bit of dust I used a Ryobi wet dry vac you run it in reverse so that it kicks the dust out the front into the dust boot.
Is it better than a grinder when need cutting tile?
You can go with Milwaukeeâs 12 V vacuum also and it does only cut up to 5/8 inch tile it is a high speed low torque grinder.
I have one of these and it's my second most used Milwaukee tool, behind the impact driver. I love it. It will cut notches in cramped spaces, it cuts conduit, it cuts plastic pipe cleanly and more importantly cuts the last bit of some material that is just hanging on that you're having trouble removing by hand, it cuts off nails in old boards, it makes straight cuts through sheet metal and aluminum flashing, and on and on. It's just and incredible tool if you have something small you need to get straight through without making it jagged. For whatever reason, that's a need I have a lot. Last week we were removing an old fuel tank and one leg was cemented into the ground and wouldn't come lose. In 60 seconds this cut through it. My neighbor was replacing a sink and his metal drain pipe had corroded so the pieces no longer unscrewed. In 20 seconds this thing cut through it. I'm often coming across old nails in cramped spaces that need to be cut to allow the replacement boards to be inserted, and most times this zips them off. Every now and again the big, awkward 4.5" grinder is needed for these jobs, but this tool is much smaller, lighter, and comfortable in a single hand, and although the thermal protector will cut it off if you push it too hard, it has a lot of power. I'm always reaching for it.
When it use for tile cut, does it give a good and smooth edge?
@@user-pe9vr8ot8d I haven't used it with tile. It has an internal shut down that cuts the motor off to prevent overheating when it is used hard, and it trips easily in dense material. Tile is dense, so it probably would only be useful for quick trimming and smaller cuts, not as a main tile cutter.
@@mickm5097 thanks, usually I use the grinder or wet saw to cut tiles, but the edge is not good enough
Yes it works well just use Diablo wheel with that m12 cut off
Any M12 battery can be used in any M12 tool. 4.0 Amp-Hours represents the capacity of the battery. An M12 4.0aH battery supplies the same voltage (12V) as an M12 8.0aH battery. But a tool with the 8.0 will make twice as many cuts, holes, crimps etc as the same tool using a 4.0aH battery. You ought to know how batteries work if you're reviewing cordless tools.
Milwaukee doesn't make a M12 8.0 ah battery, the biggest they do in the M12 lineup is 6.0 ah.
Matthew 7:1-3
@@okafka5446 True! I just meant to give an example of what the amp hour measurement meant.
@@okafka5446 there are m12 9.0 batteries thoughđ
@@crazymayne69 Not from Milwaukee- their largest M12 is 6.0. Maybe Chinese knock offs, but if that's the case, it's probably not really 9 amps.
Thank you! That was really bugging me, especially how he compared the m12 battery to the m18 battery.
I bought my kit for $120 on clearance :) I recommend dremel blades over stock. I found it very useful for cutting plastic drill cases. Itâs a tool that requires patience and a steady hand to master and only useful in few cases ;)
The M12 battery gauge is built into the tool even better than being on the battery because the ones on the battery stop working after a while
I consider it just what they call it a mini cut off tool nothing more nothing less I own this tool I use this tool for what it is I don't have any complaints đ I don't expect more from it like these videos are expecting it is not an angle grinder it is not tile cutter even though one of its benefits as you can do some nice tile cuts with it at the end of the day if you make any cuts that any of these videos of shown you kind of need the tool and you'll realize a lot more
Got this a few weeks ago at Home Depot for 86 dollars with the xc4.0 battery. Works good for small stuff. I use my angle grinder with a diablo blade for bigger things
I would snap it up at that priceâŠâŠI donât think my local Home Depot has ever had it for less than $139
@@alcopower5710 yea same here in socal 139 just for the damn tool
Wtf u serious? The 4.0ah battery is more than that. Good deal if you really got it for that price.
Just FYI, a 3 inch blade will always cut slower then a 4-1/2â tool. It has to do with blade surface per rotation. They both spin at the same speed, but the circumference is much smaller with the 3â.
@toastinator This tool spins at 20,000 rpm, a 4.5 inch grinder spins at 10,000-12,000 rpm, so they don't spin at the same speed
@@dogbreath6974 Which he actually says in the video. I'm guessing @toastinat0r commented without watching the whole video
A belated thanks for the in-depth review on this tool. The sample cuts you made and analysis helped me decide that this cut off saw is not the right tool for my needs. My money will now be better spent on a larger bladed, corded saw.
Could you use this if having to cut flush with with toe kicks in cabinets?
Actually with the dust shoe on throw the grinder in reverse so the dust is flung into the shoe toward the dust extraction port
Would you recommend this tool over the grinder for cutting tile?
Thanks for the review. I was thinking about this thing, but I don't think it'll suit me as well as a die grinder.
I used mine quite a bit to demo my fiberglass shower. Iâll use it to cut Rondec when I get further along. A very useful tool.
thanks for the feedback, I was curious how it would work with Rondec!
how well did it work cutting the fiberglass shower?
john doe I used the cutoff tool for most of it, along with a reciprocating saw. Both were needed, based on what I was cutting up (I wanted to make sure I didnât cut into pipes or wiring with the recip saw - the cutoff tool makes a very shallow cut - thatâs itâs strength). I did go through batteries on the cutoff tool, but I have an ample supply. I would use it again if I had to demo another fiberglass shower.
@@gregdavis9720 that's awesome thanks for the reply
Thank You for sharing variable information
Cute! I could see using it for small home projects.
definitely has its place for certain projects
Like? I already own one just wondering is there an application that I'm overlooking.
@@doyen86 cutting tile for outlets is what I bought mine for
I have found a 3 inch 3/8 arbor x mesh blade for this cut off tool would you recommend this tool to use for continuous tile cutting?
Hi Great Review! I want to ask which one of these 3 blades can use to cut Wood. As I do not see wood cutting in your demo
I have so many other tools to do what that tool does, At $190 it would be a waste of money for me. Thanks for sharing it with us.
thanks Woody, ya itâs a great tool but one needs a specific use for it to be useful
If you are doing trim work, siding, etc, its probably a fantastic tool. If you are trying to cut sheet goods or lots of other thick or long runs, it ain't the right tool.
Hi,
Does dremel have blades you can use on this tool? Also would it work on cutting wood siding?
YES I BROUGHT THE 3INCH DREMEL BLADE FOR WOOD TO USE WITH THIS TOOL
How's it do on cutting wood? Circular saw guard is getting in the way from flush wall/subflooring cuts. Debating on this for plywood
did you get one? i have the same question
OK - backgroundâŠI have a couple of 12V Milwaukee tools, so wanted to stay w that size battery.
Dumb question alert - I need an all purpose tool, but for now, a tool that will cut trim, mdf etc for some DIY projects.
Is this the tool that I need or more like a miter saw?
Thanks
I canât believe the dust port doesnât take the m18 vacuum....how are you suppose to exhaust the dust?????
The battery indicator on the M12 system tools are on the tool itself.
The blade should be spinning in reverse when using the gaurd. What do you do for a living again?
I would like to know how well does it work on wood
073021/1412h PST đșđž Thank you for the demo, that I was looking forward to, once I got this great Milwaukee 3.5â 12V Cut off tool.
Good job!
I use one for cutting rebar
Hi guys. Does anybody knows about the wall-cutting whit cut-off saw?! I want to chase the wall whit this machine. Is this possible?
The dust shoe performs way better with the tool in reverse. This way the dust is propelled towards the shop vac pipe.
Has anybody used this for emt conduit. Looks super handy for 1/2 and 3/4 pipe
What bench/vise was that at the end?
How is the battery life with the 4.0ah battery?
can you get a circular saw blade for it?
Why do you have to use that size battery only, can't you use the smaller 12V batteries.
Most any m12 battery will work in mine. This little tool is great. A wood saw blade is the only missing component. Yes, use safety goggles.
Try the bosch version and do a comparsion
Is the depth adjustable?
What is the difference of the 2522-21xc from the 2522-20?
21xc means its includes a battery and a case.
20 is tool only
When or in what situations would you use the reverse feature for cutting?
Depending on what you're cutting and what position you're in, reversing the direction might come in handy to change the directions of the sparks flying out
Wish they had a blade for wood cutting. Would be a great tool to cut wood or LVP flooring. Or even trim pieces.
Would this be a good tool for cutting through 2X3" inch aluminum downspout? Not much thicker than a pop can
Yes it cuts 16 gauge galvanized sheet metal easily
I'm a gutter installer and was thinking this or the m12 hackzall would be a great tool for cutting downspouts. Seems like a good idea.
This should cut AL gutter like a hot knife through butter, and probably at a pretty good clip. Disregard the fails in the video/comments as this is not a replacement for a grinder w/cut-off wheel that normally pull 5-10 amps at 120v.
It cuts downspouts like a champ!
Nice video. What I find interesting is that this tool does a lot of things but nothing very well. I want to like this tool as I just ordered one but honestly it looks like it is just a niche tool. Maybe this is good for someone who doesn't have cutoff tools like a grinder or sawzall which most of us watching probably already have.
Can i use this to cut the roof off a car im trying to remove a sunroof off a car
A great review. Do they sell blades for cutting wood for this model?
No but you can use the 3-inch Dremel blade
Yes, that is an option. It is interesting why this model doesn't have a blade for wood. I used it. It is powerful. Thank you.
@@hussainluaibi1481 I think the main point is the RPM, the mini Handcycularsaw (e.g. from Makita) has RPM of 3.5k to 4k. The angle grinders (even the mini ones) have 19k to 20k. The grinder blades need very high rpm to be safe. The wood cutting blades are actually relatively slow to keep the temperature from friction down so you don't burn the wood.
But you are right, give this a slightly larger blade diameter (maybe 3,5 to 4 inch), give it a 2-speed gear for 4k to 20k (just like drills have) together with the dustcover, and the guide rail would make a really really really nice wood/stone cutting tool.
Could you use this for tuck pointing a chimney?
Havenât tried it but it might work. A bigger grinder is better
Donât you typically wet tile especially really hard porcelain. They donât call wet saws wet without reason. Most have recirculating or constant refreshing water so the blade stays wet/cool and debris cleared away. Maybe even a spray bottle since itâs battery not corded. The deal is to keep it throughly wet. Ask the manufacturer and as I said porcelain is a beast - which is why it can be used outside and in commercial applications - I have some sitting outside year round to go under pots (act as a shelf in a rack) for over 20 years in temps from -5 to 105F in full sun and thus exposed to cold, heat, ice, snow, wind from all directions. It does have shade in summer when umbrella is up but winter is the toughie with freezing. No cracks or spalling, etc. It was genuine porcelain leftover from my kitchen floor which I have been very impressed with - in 2000.
Note it will break if you drop it on a hard surface or crack if a heavy hammer is dropped on it. I have dropped pots on it and my great grandmothers two small, lightweight handmade hammers without issue. However, I image at the right angle of drop they might hit wrong and crack though I canât imagine so - the head is hand forged and the circular area that makes contact head is maybe 1- 1 1/2â.
I guess you didn't realize that all the M12 line of Milwaukee have battery indicators on the tool and it was right there in front of your face as you were saying it wasn't on the battery
Donât do payed reviews but look at this free tool I just got đ
I use my angle grinder, battery powered and alternate between cutoff wheel, diamond blade, concrete grinder, or metal grinding wheel, and obviously, thatâs a pretty useful tool. Iâm failing to see the main reason for this tool... wouldnât my $40 18v (which I use one-handed all the time) accomplish what this one does and a lot more?
because a giant angle grinder may not fit where this tool can?
@@Dexter_Solid this little tool takes more space than a regular angle grinder tbhđ
Cause it's super cute and you can make everyone jealous
I use my 16" Makita circular saw one handed too
@@douglasward718 đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Mine struggles to cut anything-keeps stopping, using a 2.0ah, think its the battery causing the problems?
That or the blade needs to be replaced
@@HomeRepairTutor Sussed it, bad batteries always on two bars so it was not delivering full power, I think I will get a 4ah at least!. Thanks.
How does it do when cutting cast iron pipe?
He's still cutting. 400 disks and 12 batteries later it's nearly done ! It's really "compact". One hand !
U speed up the cut with editing duh how long did it really take to cut the outlet out?
i bet it has its advantages like cutting cementbord like sawing square holes for spots or doing here and there a cuts where a 125 mm blade don't fit but its deffently not a must have
Awesome tool my brother I like it,Very nice video to I will see you later :)
thanks man, hope you have a great night
I'm glad you presented this video that lets me see and realize that things no more than just a toy I would never waste my time or money on it
Can any of the wheels cut concrete?
So someone asked this on the site and technically it can with the blades it comes with but due to the size of the motor and actual cut off wheel it's really not ideal.
Obviously not used to Milwaukee m12 lineup. The tool does take time to get used to and the diamond blade does suck. It does Not require the 4mah battery I use mine with my 1.5 and 2.0mah batteries they just do t last long. Highly reccomed the 6.0 for this tool to get some decent run time out of it. This tool can also cut wood usi g the 3in dremmel muti material blade. This tool can do very long cuts but will need time for the battery to cool afterwords. It defiantly draws tooons of power. Best $150 I have spent in a long time I end up using this think all most every day.
colt45lmer lack of acknowledge use a diamond đ blade 1# score the surface blade, so that use donât get premature cracking. Work the cut line. Thatâs why the diamonds đare on the sides of the blade đșâŒïž Only rookies/ novices try to cut straight though with one pass đ„Ž âgolden M12 FUEL + 6.0AH = M18 PROFORMANCEâĄïžâ
Wait Milwaukee did send us this tool, but we do not do payed reviews. I think excepting the tool counts as payment, does it not?
If you put the blade in reverse while cutting tile with a shop vac hooked up there wonât be any dust
Rotation was wrong when you were cutting the tile. Try it the other way. Itâll suck up the dust and be a easier cut.
Soooooo, does it cut wood or not? Im not sure how you could test it on all these things and not a piece of plywood
M12 battery indicated on tool itself. All m12s are like that.
I purchased the milwaukee it was made very cheap. Took it back and got the ridgid
The chipping of the ceramic tile (not porcelain) is from unsteady hands. You're allowing the blade to cut on the up side chipping off the ceramic(glaze) of the tile. Porcelain tile will not chip that easily either. Try cutting in reverse sometimes people ct tiles better that way.
How much , price ? Sir
Control the brightness please
You can use any m12 battery in any m12 tool. The bigger the battery, the longer it will last.
I wish they still put there tools in a hard box
I was curious about this tool to use around the house but mostly for my next job on my Jeep Wrangler with putting on my hood louver since it requires cutting the hood. Looks like it did well with copper. Would be curious how well it would cut through steel though or what would be the tool to use since I like cordless tools for on the trail or in the garage. Awesome review video!
I have this one and a 5" M18 Fuel angle grinder. If you have neither and just want to buy one, but the M18! It will do everything this one does and more, and it will do it faster, at the equivalent of battery use.
That said, I love both this one and the M18 grinder. But I think why alot of people are disappointed with the M12 cutoff tool is that they needed a grinder but thought they could lose 6V, some size, some weight and at a lower price and still do some heavy cuts and grinding. And they cannot!
This one will cut steel, even slightly thick steel, but cut depth will limit it, it will take time and if you push it it will stall.
@@WeldingForJesus Spot on. This is for light work, trim and finish, etc. I also wanted to get one of these in hopes of easier cutting of sheet goods and stuff, however its clear it is not powerful enough nor built for that task.
@@WeldingForJesus exactly what I needed to know. Thank you.
I use this cut off saw daily, bought in a kit with m12 fpd combi drill, i use it for cutting steel conduit and trunking, steel tray work as an electrician. Very hany little tool. M12 fpd drill is amazing awsell
@Shauna Tate will it cut it yes, designed for cutting such not really. It will go through it yes as a one off, but id look at a cordless grinder if cutting them regularly
Can it cut 2X4's?
I don't think so considering the blade is 3" and it's cut is less than half of that, maybe 1-1/4".
Dewalt's Atomic circular saw is perfect for 2Ă4s as it uses 4-1/2" blades and it has an extended reach handle. I don't like their Atomic lineup too much, but this thing is pretty awesome! Only thing I own from the Atomic series
Will using a stronger battery increase the power?
No, using the higher amp hour batteries will increase the run time. To get higher power youâd have to use a higher voltage wireless tool.
@@tannerw3418 Wrong, although tricky. Larger battery can supple larger in-rush and constant current required.
Smaller battery will max out quickly and thermal overload/shut down on high draw tools quicker.
Test this by running your cordless circ saw with a 2AH and 4AH battery while cutting a 2x4 or 4x4.
Note- Using a larger or appropriately sized battery will allow your tool to work at its maximum power vs a small 2AH battery, however it will not allow the tool to work better than it was designed too.
the power check for batteries on all m12 is on the tool itself. no m12s have a battery check
Honestly if you would have cut in reverse on your first cut. It would have made the cut without jumping around like it did
Awesome review
Good tools, rpm?
I believe he said 20,000 in the video
Can these cut wood
An honest review.
I used this tool for a while and ended up returning it.
It just eats batteries for lunch. A 36" cut in a 5/8 plywood took 3 batteries and 15 minutes and the blade kept jamming up. One of the batteries starting blinking red and green because of the vibrations in the tools.
m12 power indicators on the tool
I think you and I are the only ones who know, lol
So I wasnât the only one yelling at the video when he was complaining about no battery indicator on m12s? Haha đ€Ł
Almost like using a dremel when you need a angle grinder.
thatâs a great description đđŒ
@Bamboo Training they have drummers that hold cut off wheels i would opt out
dremmels
If you're cutting anything that creates a ton of dust use a bag so you don't pack up your filter and kill your vac. it works way better and you won't have dust flying everywhere because the filter is losing suction packed full of dust. also if your diamond blade seems dull you can cut a tiny bit into a cender block or the best thing go to a tile store and get a diamond dressing stone this is made to knock off the dull stuff and bring sharp diamond up to the surface most hardware stores don't carry them tile shops or masonry shops do since we use them on tile blades will cut great after dressing if you can't find one you can also use a rub stone but the dresser is best đđđ
Ryobi itâs too much better in the way you could use your batteries đđ
Oh Jesus... the battery indicator is on the damn tool...
Good review mate. Finally someone who knows what theyâre doing
Itâs the Milwaukee blade not the tool. Try it again with a Diablo 3â Diamond blade.
Great review. I agree, it appears to be very limited with a 3 inch blade.
thank you, admittedly we like the 3â blade for cutting electrical outlets in tile, but Milwaukee needs more blade options for porcelain, marble, glass, etc
So is a 3â cutoff air tool. .. which is what itâs replacing
The indicator is on the tool
M12 tools show battery on tool where M18s usually show on battery back ... LOL clearly they want the battery back to be small on the m12 if They add that same feature to the m12 battery pack it will make it bigger in size and thatâs not good in my opinion, good video though! Very informative.
The tool has the power indicatorâŠ.
Blade seems to be going the wrong way. it wont jump if you switch it
It's a great little tool, but like I say it's little and not to be used for anything heavy duty. I don't think that I could use it in my tool locker.
thanks Chris, itâs a super specific tool. Had the tile cutting been better Iâd love it. Itâs between a normal angle grinder and small Sawzall
@@HomeRepairTutor That is true sir!!
The reason there is no battery indicator on the m12 batteries is because any battery that uses the M12 system, they have their own battery indicator.
Nice making up things, you have it totally backwards. rofl. Where do you put everything for the battery level indicator on a cp 2.0 12 volt? Right you can not with out making the battery way larger.
it will excel in automotive use. not so much for home use
itâs small footprint is great for tight spots, automotive work wood be a great fit