How to Practice Without Getting Bored or Frustrated
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- I call it "creative repackaging" -- it's the #1 practice strategy that has helped me improve the most as a musician. Practicing can be efficient, engaging, and not boring, strenuous, or monotonous. This helps you repeat passages in an original way by creating a loop around it.
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Okay, but to be completely honest you look like you're having more fun practicing on the left of the thumbnail XD.
Haha yes I thought so too while editing 🤣
It's a "stressed- but-almost-stank-face"
Hey none!
@@AsrielKujo Sup dude.
@@NahreSol Hey Nahre I really hope you can tell me how you came up with the opening riff of your tango piece. I am DYING to know. Hope you can respond when you can.
This reminds me a lot of the concept of 'tactical periodisation' training in soccer. Things like using the football in training even when training something completely different. Essentially training everything in a context closer to that in which it will be used. Doesn't just make training less boring, but also more effective.
This is so interesting!!! Thank you for this!!!
Could you elaborate what activities you mean exactly? Like going to a gym, but still playing football? :)
😅
This is what Chopin taught as well, according to his students. He very strongly was against non-musical practice.
that's crazy right, who'd thought of avoiding non-musical practice when you're practicing music
@@metroidandroid yeah but it seems like sometimes you have to play things that don’t sound musical to boost your technical abilities
Who were chopin's students?
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I dunno off the top of my head, I'm not a historian. It's something I read and regurgitated. Look up how Chopin was as a teacher.
@@metroidandroid hanon comes to mind I suppose. (I love Hanon)
My university's music program is amazing, especially for piano. I auditioned as a mostly self taught musician and was accepted. Then I got there and suddenly my teacher was a superb pianist with an international career, the practice rooms reserved for pianists all had baby Steinways, and I got overwhelmed. Practicing became so difficult because I kept hearing the other students playing and comparing myself, and also my teacher told me to keep track of how long I practiced each piece (+ technique like scales) and I really didn't like that because it made me feel defeated if I felt like I'd been playing something for an hour and it turned out to be 30 minutes. She sat me down midway through the semester and told me that I should be practicing for at least 3 hours a day, but that it had to be GOOD practice, not just running my pieces over and over. Anyway, I just did my final jury for my first semester and got all As, which is a testament to my teacher, really. I'm inspired by my good jury results to do better, GOOD practicing next semester and these are just the tips I needed! I easily get bored and frustrated, especially if it's something to do with technique. I'm definitely going to use these tips next semester!!!
I haven't commented before but honestly, thank you for existing.
As a self-taught wannabe pianist (and long term subscriber) , your videos have always been a source of knowledge, motivation and inspiration.
Hopefully, this channel will grow more, and you'll keep bringing us amazing content like this.
🍎 I didn’t figure this out when I was an instrumentalist and I *did* quit. ☹️ That was a long time ago, but this and many of your other videos have inspired me to consider going back and picking up my viola again. Thanks for your generous and brilliant insights! 💕
viola gang
What have I become? I can't just hear "repetition" without my mind adding "legitimizes" now...
Still that was a great video !
😅😅😅
Repition legitimises
REPETITION LEGITIMIZES *dead stare*
Repetition legitimizes
Repetition...
LOL this is hilarious. One time in college my piano professor came into my practice room and caught me practicing Bach while watching the office on netflix and I was so ashamed LOL. But in all fairness, it's the perfect show to watch while practicing because there's no background music!!
Since there's no background music, did you ever find yourself "writing a score" for what you were watching?
@@peaceofkake1085 yup
now I understand the frog pianist memer and why he is becoming viral
perfect story for why musicians deserve to be made obsolete via software playback algorithms like Note Performer
No music, unless Dwight is accompanying Michael on one of his offensive songs, or Andy and Dwight are in a banjo vs. guitar showdown!
This is marvelous! The bonus part of this method is that you can become a composer along the way without even being aware! 🍎
Thanks Bati!!!! 😁🙏🏻
I noticed that too! 👍😊 👏Nahre👏
"You need to over-compensate in order to master something" - that's revealing, thank you for pointing this out inside an instruction on how to achieve it 🍎
watching nahre practice on the piano , makes me feel like salieri at the keyboard . in the mozart movie .
😁
I'd be more than happy if it would make me feel like anything close to Salieri.
Unfortunately it just makes me feel like.....uhhmm.. well....
...me myself
😉
@@mayiask654 😹
Excellent advice - thank you!!!
bru I am still trying to find the vowels of every note to imitate timbre of my instrument
the problem: *i play strings* 😭
Active learning! All of your techniques and suggestions are very relevant to adult learning. If you engage the learner in new and interesting ways, it will help to make the learning more efficient and meaningful, thereby also improving retention! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the comment!!
It's also super helpful when you aim for PERFECTION at every iteration (during repetitions). When you try to play each without making any errors with rhythm, fingering, note, articulation, dynamic, etc., your brain will be fully engaged. Which is the point of Nahre's suggestion in this video: Make your brain engaged.
Nahre is so damn good. Not only does she within minutes get me at my piano bench , she also reminds of how much better I could be. In a good way though lol
As a bassist and guitarist I find interesting to do is tapping an underlying rhythm to what I'm playing. Once I know how to play it to the original I can mix it up a little, maybe move the beat forward or back e.g. a quarter or eighth note.
Apart from that humming or whistling a melody over the practice piece works too.
Normally I don't write comments, but this time I want to get rid of something:
Since I discovered you on CZcams, my attitude of being a musician has changed. You are a great inspiration and I enjoy your music very much.
I finally got my unfinished compositions out of the shelf , which have been lying there for years, and I improvise and compose as much as I can.
I have been working differently on the piano and all different kind of works since I saw your videos. And I start getting more in touch with my creativity, which makes me very happy.
Thank you very much for everything. Keep up the good work! I am very much looking forward to what is yet to come :)
This is such an important tip/method/inside/enlightenment for "boring" practices.. For any skill and I don't know anything bout music other the loving it and listening to it
Yes!! Thank you for the comment ☺️
@@NahreSol sure :) been following for a long time now but for some reason YT recommended me your stuff only now.. Anyways, these learning methods are gold for outside of music learning too, so keep it up :)
Me watching a video on how to practice correctly...while practicing .-.
The best strategy 😅
This reminds me of what my violin teacher calls "etudizing" passages. She encourages me to create my own etudes around parts I need to work on. I can adjust them to add complexity or fit specific aspects I need to work on and make it sound musical. But I am creating my own personal practice method around it.
your videos are so well produced that they could be classified as works of art. 🍎🍎🍎
Thank you so much!!!! 🙏🏻🍎
This is useful not only for piano but everything in general. Nowadays the idea of active learning is gaining steam. Btw, kudos for performing a snippet of the thirds etude which is really hard.
PS. 🍎
Thank you!!! 🍎🙏🏻
"Active learning"? I might want to look into that further.
@@samuelitooooo popular study channels are speaking about this
Great advice. I am reluctant to dedicate myself to perfect repetitive portions or get my runs where they need to be... This could help.
I hope it helps, thank you!!!
Yes! This is just how I practice improvisation; start with a note, phrase, or chord, and start messing around with patterns.
thank you for these ideas! As a kid practicing always felt like a boring chore, just repeating things because i *had to*. For a while I stepped away from music but a while back I came across a music therapist that helps her clients avoid pain in their hands by helping them relax by rediscovering the joy of playing. When playing is about pleasure (enjoying the sound and even just the feeling of playing) then often their pain faded away. Since then I've been trying to always focus on the pleasure and joy of just making music, and your recommendations are helping so much. thank you!
Brilliant idea Nahre, will def be trying this out!
You are such a good teacher, Nahre. Thank you!.
In the past year while practicing Bach I've been having improvised tangents, there are so many interesting harmonies / passages to expand and play with. You have solidified the concept in this video, thank you!
What are tangents? I had a google cuz I’m also into Bach, but I couldn’t find anything about it. 😊
It is always good to turn on the internet and see healthy piano players setting aside a little time to encourage. Society, I think, appreciates this. I seem to be following woman…. piano players on CZcams (not intentionally) and this woman is one of my favourites. She does her job wonderfully. 🥸
Wow, this is just what I needed! It combines learning sheet music with improvisation and gets you better at both, thank you!!
3:44 explains the objective where repetition is the no-brainer 'drone' to the vector on your trajectory. I can see this work with Guitar and not just travis picking. Nahre, your video presentation skills, your graphic skills, your sense of humour with charming snippets, your way of simply speaking to the camera and relating the topics -- let's just say there are 20 more thumbs up CZcams isn't allowing me to register.
Thank you so much!!! That means a lot to me 🙏🏻😁
Yeah, this advice would be useful to anyone, in any field. That's why I love watching tutorials about other instruments, there are so many people who can help you actively learn --and Nahre is one of the best when it comes to imparting advice.
Nahre speaks from a place of wisdom and experience, which is why her videos are so extremely useful, and valuable to me (as someone who is only a piano noob).
Thank you for inspiring us, I really love to hear such practical advice, and entertaining, and it’s wonderful to hear you play and explain
SO SO SO smart! BRILLIANT strategy. Thank you!
I've been trying to do creative practice since watching some of your precious videos, and it honestly has been THE one thing that has helped me get back to playing piano and practicing again!!
Nahre, this is so so good. Thanks for sharing your creativity with us.
I loved this video -- it's so cool hearing the looped versions for practice you come up with and I'm excited to try it for myself!
Thanks Nahre! Tips like these help me improve my skills. I appreciate you! 😄
I admire so much that you are so creative!....always able to reinvent yourself as a musician. You send us all off on/to the Right path. Thank you so much.
Thanks for your amazing job Nahre!
These are fantastic suggestionsa, many thanks.
You do such a good job entertaining us. Smart, approachable, fun and musical
🍎 Nahre Sol, thank you so much. You have such great talent as a musician and thinker. It is so kind of you to share your piano playing, insights, approaches and compositions. All your videos are perfection. Very best wishes to you!
Yes to all of this! It is so good to hear you reiterate some of my thoughts and practice strategies (since I am fairly newly obsessed with the piano). You also brought up several other great mindsets to have while practicing. I believe this can apply to all skill levels as well.
I take the same approach for my drumming students. I’m glad you’re passing it around 😊👍
thank you for getting straight to the point!! i clicked on the video and immediately got what i wanted! you’re amazing!!
I just really appreciate your message. I hope I can share this with my students as I work on this myself.
This is by far one of the best vids I've seen on this subject and piano playing in general. Great work!
This is such good teaching 😍 articulating what some people have kind of been doing (ie me) but also extending it so it’s more explicit and I feel I have more direction rather than vaguely doing it. Thank you!
The video is fantastic as always Nahre! Thanks for sharing
Thank you!!!
I didn't know other people did this lol. I thought I was alone.
Making up melody or harmony to go with my other hand that is doing measures from songs that are too hard for mee to play that fast lol OwO.
I did try watching tv but then I started making mistakes.
Amazing!!! 😁
Thank you so much for this nahre i needed it 😭❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lovely tips! Thanks so much!
Great tips! I will dive into this, keep your video open while working on certain passages as a reminder. Now been going for that dry practice, which kinda helps, but this makes it a whole lot more interesting and exciting!
As non-pianist, I enjoy your videos and I sit on the piano we have here in my house to try at least to play with right hand whenever I watch you. You inspired me.
These videos are such an incredible resource.
Your video magically popped up 🍎 on a day where I’m reassessing my practice habits! Thanks for sharing your insights. Big fan of your videos, music, playing and creativity!
I'm a classical double bass player and I find your advice is always so focused for everyone who plays any instrument! Thank you.
thanks great advice, with the countless hours you spend at the piano and your passion on the subject this coupled with the way you play ....you have won me over..massive thanks..
I love these strategies! Thank you 🙏
This is really good advice. As a drummer I do this type of thing all the time. Taking basic rudiments like paradiddles and incorporating them into drum fills or even making entire grooves based around them has made practicing much more fun than just repeating the same rhythms on a practice pad.
Awesome!!! Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
thanks Nahre! the quality of these videos keeps getting better
Thank you!!!
Nahre coming up once again with the 🔥 videos!!Thank youuu🙏🏽
Thank YOU!!!
I really LOVE your videos here ! ! !
I've always enjoyed your way of digesting music and knowing that you check out when you find things boring is quite reassuring. I love music and wish to take it further, but am often not rigorous enough on the technical practice/music theory.
Making it fun in this way is something I can see will be very helpful 🍎
Nahre, your creativity is fantastic!!!
Thank you so much!!
Lovely clear explanation and a deep understanding of motivation, thanks for your inspirational videos
Absolutely. I've always done this and come up with some fairly good ideas for compositions in the process. Sound advice as ever Nahre
I have watched several of your videos, They are very helpful and inspiring. Thanks for them.😀
I’ve learned a lot of practice methods, but yours are all new to me. Can’t wait to try some of these out in the practice room!
The smooth and natural touch is beautiful, and I can play it as I imagined, which is very enviable. You look amazing.
Thank you!!!
THANK YOU! I also thank you for bringing life to classical training.
I cannot express how refreshing and encouraging I find all that you say. I am an amateur, only learnt at music school for 5 years, yet I feel I am really musical. But all that I ever received from music teachers was drill, rigour, criticism and discipline. I struggle to allow myself to play and your videos help a great deal in the struggle.
This was as much a composing lesson as it was a practice lesson. Thankyou! 🍎
Thank you back!!! 😁🙏🏻
This video is absolutely fun. 😄🙌🏽 Thanks, Nahre! 🍎
I wonder why you wonderfully exist in this platform, but there is no single violinist who has a channel like yours. Like wtf. We need it.
Wonderful advice. Thank you.
Thank you, great video with valuable info!!!!
One of My favorite Videos of you, Nahre! Since I‘ve seen it for the first time I’ve been practicing Chopin Etüde n.5, like this, especially its middle part. That works just great!
I don't even play an instrument Nahre but I'm subscribed and I watch videos like this because what you say is always so well explained and worth listening to.
I enjoy you videos so much. Always something to learn from them. As a flutist I do this while playing along a recording or track. Thats how I learned to improvise. Thanks again.🍎
I've been watching your classes on youtube and even though I play classical guitar, your daily study tips have helped me dedicate myself more seriously to the guitar.
This is exactly what I needed to see today. Thank you for the inspiring idea!🍎
Thank you!!! 😍😍😍
As usual, so so helpful!
Each time I'm stuck I got a magic notification on CZcams with your great advices, and after that I'm ready to rock thank you 🙏 🍎😉
That is such a great tip. Thanks especially for explaining how it can be applied to single voice instruments. Great advice!
Thanks Nahre, nice tip,I think for me it will also help me get a better grasp of music theory, experimenting with what I can add in here and there to the piece.
Really interesting, it's funny cause I was just talking with a friend (We're both Jazzy Hip Hop producers) and we were mentionin all the the producers that inspired us to do what we do, we realised that some of them used to entirely reproduce instrumentals from other artist that inspired them, wich involve another way of repeating things to improve as an artist, personally when I wanna reproduce a beat (kinda like an hommage to dope artist) I end up doin things a lil bit defferently than the original track, it stimulates the creativity and the love of doin what you do instead of doin the exact same thing, thx for sharing, peace out from France!
Amazing tips! Thank you! 🍎
Thanks. Looking forward to try it
Fantastic approach and thank you so much for your inspiring videos and approach to piano. Stephen
I have just discovered your videos today, and I’ve left comments on a couple of them, but after watching only 30 seconds of this one I am already so uplifted by meeting a kindred spirit! I do this exact same thing when trying to practice and I am nowhere near the pianist that you are. To make tedious things in one hand feel at least like part of a musical creation to keep me more interested is a wonderful concept. Thank you !
Soo helfull, and magic at the same time. Just started to get a kind of bored while practising some trills. Great teaching-Thank you!
Love these videos, thank you so much for the practical advice! I've played for years for fun, but never really studied or done drills, and I'm realizing I really want to improve my skills but the repetitiveness is daunting.
Lovely playing that's so pretty which inspires me as a guitarist who use to play piano so I'll always be inspired by pianists and you do that w/ such useful notes about adding chords to create loops which can be adapted to guitar playing as well. Many thanks!
FANTASTIC SUGGESTIONS !!!!
Rhythmical variation is usually enough to keep me engaged with the material, but I still love to use this method on arpeggiated passages. Picked it up from a video of yours 2-3 years ago and it profoundly changed the way I think about practicing. As for slow Bach pieces, I like to try and improvise a Busoni-style arrangement. That way I’m much more conscious of what is going on harmonically and it is also significantly less boring than just practicing the voices over and over. Anyways, thanks so much and keep up the great work!
Thanks! Just rushing off to the piano now to try this! It’s also reassuring to see that even good pianists need to use repetition to master tricky bits. I like your down-to-earth approach to viewers - not elitist and show-offs. Very helpful. London
Love your videos Nahre 🍎
I love this concept so much. I'm a guitar player, but before I started with guitar as a kid, I tried both piano and violin, and couldn't stay focused on either one. I never understood why until recently, when I realized that while my piano and violin teachers packaged their lessons in that dry, dull, monotonous fashion, my guitar teacher always packaged his as little songs, and that kept me way more focused and engaged.
I've been using this trick to teach myself piano as an adult, and it's such a huge difference maker. Fantastic video!
Honestly ingenious. You're working on technique, creativity, hand independence, your ears and composition skills at the same time.
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This is what I kind of do! I choose goal pieces that I really want to learn, and then I find the techniques in the piece that I can’t yet do. I then find intermediary pieces that have a pared-down version of that technique to use as a stepping stone! Like i needed to get better at left hand arpeggios for Barque Sur L’Ocean, so I learned the second movement of Beethoven’s Tempest sonata, which is full of left hand arpeggios and rhythmic isolation
Smart!!! And thank you!!! 🙏🏻🍎