7 Unforgettable Lessons I Learned at the "World's Best Music School"
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- Life-changing lessons I learned at Juilliard (and other music schools).
7 Things I Wish I Learned / Part 2: • 7 REAL-World Skills I ...
00:00 Music School???
01:07 Critical thing I noticed!
02:44 Since I was shy...
04:57 What about the pressure?
06:30 This can only happen in music school!
07:58 A skill that is always handy!
08:43 On performance...
10:11 The biggest lesson...
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I made Part 2! 7 Things I Wish I Learned in Music School: czcams.com/video/yDjI8iphbhU/video.html
This is such a help i appreciate your videos so much.
Be blessed
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Very good information for new students.
I'm a brand new subscriber watching from London UK.❤
Imagine walking around campus and meeting Evgeny Kissin 😳
Lol
This was incredibly validating to hear. I quit piano after my Master of Music due to low self esteem and a difficult relationship with my teacher. It took me until the last few years to reestablish a relationship with music that brought me joy rather than guilt and self-loathing. Yes to part 2.
I hear ya. Glad you came out the other side 😉🙏
I had the same issue with a teacher and once I transitioned from this toxic teacher, my playing actually improved as well as my self esteem.
@Nancy Hollo Agreed. I am not a performer, but i am making my own music,
rather than studying classical piano pieces. .
Hear hear! Getting the right teacher is so impt! I had a teacher that made me feel like crap before. Shook his hand, moved on and was all the better for it. 😊
Oh, Jennifer 😢 That makes me so sad. I’m really glad you were able to find your way back to your love of music, though ❤
absolutely interested in a part 2 - what you said about standing up for your interests and direction without letting dissenting voices (esp influential voices) affect your self perception is spot on for me as well, having recently graduated from another conservatory performance program and started a graduate degree in another music area. thanks as always for the wonderful insights!
Thank you for your comment…!!!
@@NahreSol thank you for sharing these experiences, and yes I'd love to hear more about it
This was my problem when I was a teenager. My teacher usually picked the pieces without asking me weather I like them or not. Eventually I quit playing. Meanwhile I played what I enjoyed playing. Have guts to ask questions from your teacher and say yes or no or what you think is the most important thing I learned in music school. Simply speak up! And then get to your appointments at least 30min before. I also went to RCM, but didn't finished it.
I did a Bachelor's, Master's, and most of a DMA, so I spent quite a bit of time in music school. I think if I spent more time reflecting, I could list a few more, but there is one really stand-out moment for me. During a lesson in my DMA years, I was sort of bombing everything I was playing and became visibly upset and frustrated at myself for such a poor showing. It was a bummer, because I'd honestly been practicing and putting the effort in. He stopped me and asked me what was wrong. I expressed to him that I felt like I was letting both myself and him down. I said I didn't think I was where I should be as a DMA student. He looked at me and asked me "Oh? And where should you be?". I didn't have an answer for him, since the idea was so abstract. He continued by telling me that he was no better than I was, that he just did things differently than I did. That we were both on equal footing, he just figured out the approach that worked for him. While I wish I could say there was a profound takeaway, it simply reinforced the idea that we all progress in different ways and at different paces. Similar to what you discussed about how some folks can knock out music in half the time you can.
Well, that is similar advice that can be applied to the very end of life. My mother was on hospice and the nurse called me to inform me I should come to her house (I had been going there 4 days a week but it was my weekend for my church gig). That evening I said to my Mom I have a serious subject to broach - I asked if she was ready for the long trip (eg death), and she said she didn't know. I told you don't have to know, you will know when you are ready. I said to her too that I will not talk about this anymore. Several days later she was ready and left this Earth.
So, your experience and my Mom's experience contains the same lesson: we struggle most when we question, worry, or fear not knowing where we should be when we would do best often to enjoy where we are. Or to quote Gertrude Stein "There is no there there".
AS with your teacher and my Mom, we each find our way and enjoy and blossom best when we don't fear those times we seem hopelessly uncertain or apparently lost. Often if we learn to pause, rest and take good care of ourselves we will be attuned to a clearer path.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the comment of where you want to be, being very much abstract. Isn’t this what makes the arts career path so difficult? When you’re young, you set out on this journey of being a pianist, and you practice and take lessons again and again to no end, but the longer you're on the journey the more you realize you don't know exactly where the end point is. I think it's no coincidence that a lot of artists, even many famous ones, struggled with depression, loneliness and addiction. Yet, having a focal point is essential. I would say, that having a mentor in whom you can confide should be tremendously helpful if not essential as well. "Being an artist is not easy" is an understatement of grand proportions. It can be terribly difficult.
I didn’t go to Juilliard but I went to Berklee. I entered with piano but ended up studying film scoring/electronic production (and had a major focus on scoring music for games). I was really fortunate to have supportive professors on occasion and appreciated that a lot of the professors just provide the tools and encourage students to discover on their own. This video is really important because in the end of the day I feel musicians, composers, etc make their own careers based on their tastes and interests. Also, comparing skill sets are definitely not a bad idea to hone in strengths and recognize weaknesses 😊
Thank you so much for this video!
Depending on what person is looking for Julliard is not necessarily the best. I think Berklee has the most to offer.
I would be glad to see part 2 and even more! =D
Thank you!!
@@NahreSol Nahre, you slippery Musical Space Pirate! I would love to see more but also hope you can respond to my message about how you compose when you can. It would mean a lot and I tell all my music friends about you. Hope to hesr from you.
Nahre, you briefly touched on not wishing to pursue a career as a performing pianist because of the typical expectations & lifestyle you were able to see into. Would you consider making a video about this in detail? Many of us are extremely curious about the topic of being / becoming a concert pianist :)
Would like to hear this as well!
@@courtneythompson6179 i have been trying to picture such a journey for myself, though the travel schedule alone could be too hectic for a classical performer, not to mention facing all the additional hurdles of our times. I imagine it could be quite brutal, tho perhaps still worth it ;P
@@Li-yt7zh if you haven’t you should check out the beginning of Grand Piano. It’s a thriller movie that’s free on CZcams. You get a glimpse into a pianists life. In general it’s a pretty interesting premise
@@courtneythompson6179 Thanks! Looked it up and i remember watching it when it came out :) A decent thriller for sure 😃 Two others i saw were Green Book and something with Patrick Stewart in the leading pianist role but I don't remember the name.
I have a friend who is an opera singer. She spent her career singing in the chorus of the opera in her city (as well as teaching.) Towards the end of her career she commented on how much she enjoyed her home, her garden and hosting parties and dinners. She then said that opera singers at a certain level have to tour a lot. It isn’t glamorous and if you aren’t one of the elite performers there aren’t many perks. I hadn’t thought of that. I certainly know lots of rock musicians who tire if touring but I forgot that it is also true in the classical fields. Something to ponder…
I love how you can apply these concepts not only to music but to a wide variety of college experiences
I think it would be super interesting to see you and Tiffany Poon discuss about this subject. She did all the pre-college things from 8 or 9, but when it came time to do college she turned down Juilliard and studied philosophy despite wanting to be a concert pianist. I think your different experiences would be fascinating!
She went on to Yale for MMus, so...
I would so love to see this happen!! I follow both Tiffany and Nahre and often compare and contrast the two, not as musicians (they are both fantastic), but as the kind of approaches they take in their videos.
She studied Juilliard and Colombia program together, so she still had her studies continue during uni. Then she went on Yale for master’s.
Not sure how relevant this is to sports. But, I found that your advice applies almost identically to athletes. All the lessons you've discovered were similar to what I have found in myself as an athlete. Just pure coincidence I suppose lol? Thanks a bunch for sharing wisdom!
Wow so interesting! Thank you!!
Musicians, athletes, they’re both performers so it seems logical to me to be similar in preparation. Granted sports are usually more physically demanding, unless you play like pool or darts, but still they’re all intricate skills that take time to develop and be able to perform in front of an audience.
My old piano teacher compared professional musicianship to professional sports all the time. There are many parallels. In order to reach the top you have to be passionate (if not obsessed), willing to make sacrifices socially and often financially (in case of sports also culinary :P), able to perform under high pressure. 'Good enough' doesn't exist in both worlds, you need intrinsic motivation to always be better than yourself yesterday, and your competition today. If you don't aim for the absolute top then all of this applies to a somewhat lesser extent I guess. Oh, and talent helps a great deal of course.
Same! Not a musician Or a athlete lol but I feel like some of her advice is even applicable to like students doing academic studies-> if you translate some of the advice into how it would look like as a student.
@@NahreSol don greene.
As a piano student, this was perfectly adapted, informative and useful. Thank you very much Nahre!
Thank you!!
Your great…find your own lane…and having Juliard on your resume is a great accomplishment that they can never take away from you.
I studied architecture and the parallels (no pun intended) to what you describe as your experience are incredible! Critiques, peer influences, role models, discovering your own language... I learned early what were my peak hours to study, to craft - sadly those were 8:30pm to 5am, which affects class attendance, relationships with tutors. You learn as much about yourself as you do the material (stage fright affected many presenting their designs). You seem to have hit your stride early since graduating - I always appreciate and enjoy your videos!
I would very much like to see a part two to this, thank you! As someone who wanted to go to music school but did not (long story from a long time ago), I find this very interesting and informative.
Thank you!! I appreciate the feedback!!
@@NahreSol hi i just wamted to ask you about what do you suggest for a sound designer, background composer for films and a Trinity grade 5 pianist? Bcoz im not too good in piano but i'v seen you since last 1.5 yrs and i believe you are one of the top tier pianist on youtube. Your modification of simple pieces like Happy Birthday in different Classical periods tells about your skills.
I did work in few feature films in bollywood and i am planning to learn more so i need some advice. If possible share me your mail so that i can send you some of my work. Pls help!😅
The last point is so very important. Just like every other "industry", the music business requires a certain willingness to compromise your integrity to fit the mold. It's not about being good enough, but simply about sometimes wanting to forge your own path, even if that might be even harder (financially and endurance wise). Thank you Nahre for your personal experience and for leading by example!
I might add one more point which is - build your community! Juilliard, maybe even more than many other music schools, can feel very competitive and isolating. Be bold, reach out, collaborate, make friends, understand that that's not "wasted" time, but actually crucial for a fulfilling life in music - you're not in school to only become a soloist even if that is your dream. Social networks are the bread and butter of having work in the future.
I want to succeed but I need connections and I'm far too socially anxious to make the steps often
I try to but it's really hard
PART 2 PLEASEEE!!!
I love this topic and I love how you express yourself
Thank you!!
At the end of my fourth year in college as a Music Composer major with a teaching credential, I received an F for the semester in three classes taught by the same professor whom I had inadvertently angered. I realized I didn't fit into the world I was headed for. Since then I have been deliberately been unlearning all I had been taught and made a great living non-musically for 34 years. I still write and record almost daily but feel lucky I've had no pressure to perform or learn pieces. I guess what I'm trying to add to your 7 lessons is that sometimes it's good to give up, to quit. Music has been my life since I was born but making it a career would have made it a job instead of a pleasure.
This video is jam-packed with useful information! I knew students who would purposefully wake up in the middle of the night in search of a piano on campus. When they were still tired and hungry, they'd play a Chopin polonaise or a Bach prelude and fugue without warming up. This was done in order to teach themselves how to work effectively in less-than-ideal circumstances. As a result, they never felt nervous on stage and always gave it their all. This was, in fact, my experience.
Love the honesty in this video. Thanks, Nahre!
Who went to music school? If you did - was it worth it? If you didn't - any regrets?
P.S. Also about my *current* title calling Juilliard the "best music school." I will be the first to admit...that this is SO not the case (it really depends on how well you gel with the school) BUT it makes for an effective title for CZcams .
I do regret having zero musical education growing up.
I did it and it helped me realize, that I could not start a career as a violin-player. Your point "comparisons to others" opened my eyes. From "star of the school orchestra" to "mediocre student" can mean a hard step.
I did, and the most I've learned and grown I think was in high school oddly enough. Uni in my experience was more about meeting and connecting with people who share the same interests and goals as you do. The people I was surrounded with really elevated the experience and I've made friends for life.
im in music highschool and the realizations you were stating, e.g. being confident with my study choices and knowing what i do and don’t want to do are starting to stand out for me. really helpful video!!
I didn't, and I don't/seldomly regret it. At one point in my life my piano teacher convinced me to prep and audition for the conservatory, but it didn't work out. Looking back, I think the perfectionistic and competitive atmosphere at a conservatory would have made me quite unhappy. Sometimes I try to imagine what my life would have been like as a professional musician, and I definitely still have a longing for it. But I'm happy the way things are now, having the financial security of a 'normal' job, and playing the piano as a hobby/passion for life.
Great commentary and content. Thank you for this.
Great video, Nahre. Bring on part 2!
What a great video! I love and appreciate the honesty of your story and experience. It’s nice to hear the feelings that I can relate to in my own journey
Thank you for your honesty, Nahre. These are all such great tips!
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences!
This was incredible. I wish I knew these things when I went to music school. Would love to see part 2. Thank you!
thank u nahre, i'm excited for part two 🥰😍😘
Love your channel! Great Video!
Thank you Nahre! It was very informative and kind of heartwarming. I will wait for the second part🙏❤️
Thank you, Nahre. Hope you continue this with part two! I really enjoy all your music and videos.
Super helpful! Yes! Part 2 please!
Yes. A part 2 please!!!!
Part 2 please 😀 keep up the good work 😊
thanks Nahre for share this video! it's fantastic how your conclusions resonate with my personal experience.
i really appreciate how clearly you could articulate those things and made me reflect back on my own journey. thank you and i would be very much interested in a part two :)
Awesome video, Nahre!
I'm so happy that I found your channel! Congrats on the super cool content!
Part 2 please!!! you're great and I love your channel, you've inspired me so much.
Thank you for always making such genuine and meaningful content!!! ❤️ 🙌 🙏
Part 2 part 2 !! Love your sharing, thanks as always Nahre!!
Thank you for sharing this
Wonderful. I think thru these topics daily!
Excellent video! - Thanks so much for sharing! 🙏🏽
Nahre, thank you for sharing this, all extremely well put. And glad to have discovered your channel. From a fellow musician here in NYC.
Wow Nahre! Great video!
Great video lesson 👍👍👍 I'd love to see a part 2🙏👍🙏
Wonderful stories and information!! I’m sharing this with some of my music students, it’s always great to have different insight!😄
Great video! Very honest and insightful...thankyou for sharing!
Great! And thanks 🙏 got making part 2!!
I love how transferable these tips/ skills are. Thank you Nahre!
Thanks a lot for sharing your insights !
Part 2, yes please. That was an excellent glimpse into your experiences at music school.
Thank you for sharing. I just subscribed and appreciate your insight. You can really move people in the direction of their choice. Part 2 please!!!
Thanks for your words, information and experiences Narhe.
Great video discussing serious strategies flor young musicians. Keep up the great work!
You’re so awesome. You’re so humble and open about your experiences and your brilliance - it’s really inspiring. 🙏
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
I think the journey is similar for all artists. I went through an extremely demanding graphics arts program. The dream job for everyone was to work for a high-end graphic design studio. But I later saw that what appeared to be a glamorous career was in reality a lot of stress with less room for creativity than what one might expect. And now I’m finally applying my aesthetic skills and life experience in a unique business model that I’m creating.
Everyone needs to find their own path. And the ones who don’t fit into the neat cookie-cutter mold often experience the greatest challenges and darkest nights. But if one doesn’t give up, those unique paths can be the most rewarding.
Such a fabulous video with such balanced ideas!
Well done. So many excellent points.
Honest, inspiring and insightful! Worth spreading.❤
Thanks Nahre love it you go gril !
I definitely want to watch a part 2 of this. I'm actually close to my transfering process to a music school and this video was so helpful I think I might rewatch it to take notes. Thank you so much for sharing.
Definitely a part two would be great to watch, so much value from part one, thank you :)
Thanks for this, very illuminating on your journey. Yes, part 2 would be good. Your chat gave a very honest candid flavor of your musical journey, and that itself was worth hearing. Thank you once again.
always wonderful to see you, you are so smart, thoughtful, articulate, you glow. yes to part 2 and more...
Part 2 please!!!! Thanks for sharing your experience
Yes, part 2 please 🙏
Thank you 😊
Excellent info, thanks for sharing.
First time here. Amazing video! Well done and thank you!!
Thanks so much for all the valious advice! It helped me a lot!!
It's a bit rare to see someone talking so openly about the life of a music student in college, and I would love to see a part 2 of this video.
Hugs from Brazil =)
Thank you for posting this insightful video.
Really enjoyable and useful. Thanks Nahre.
That you for this much informative video! I find this content to be aspirational, inspirational, educational, but mostly I am just a fan of your own persona and how it translates into your musicality
I'm going to pursue my music studies in the US in January. What a perfect timing! Thank you, Nahre!
Part 2 please? Thank you for this! So inspiring for sb who is looking to grow their musicianship. Our paths may be different, but in so many ways are similar, so thanks for sharing this
A beautiful video. Well done, you.
Part 2 please! I have never went to or considered music school but this was fascinating!
Brillant video! Thank you Nahre! :D
Would love a part 2! Especially about the last point in this video!
Excellent insights! Yes do part 2
Thank you, it was very valuable to listen to.
Thank you! Invaluable information! Thank you😊
Thank you for this Video! And pleaaaase do it! Part 2 with things you wish you learned at school!! :D
Absolutely interested in part 2. 🌷
Part 2 please! This video was so helpful it’s great learning about your experiences in college I am in music school now studying piano 🎹 and have learned similar lessons ✨
I would love to watch a part two and to know more about what we can the when faced with problematic teachers.
Thank you for the video!
Excellent Post... thanks Nahre
Waiting for the 2nd part. Thank you!
Thanks for your honest and sincere approach to the topic.
I think it will help many new students to find themselves.
Reading behind the lines from all their experiences.
The whole thing about comparing yourself to others hit home: i started doing this when practicing marimba after someone more along in their studies, or of a similar height, or even someone of a different height would leave the practice room. Trying to play on their setup for a few minutes really taught me so much invaluable information about posture and my own preferences.
Comparisons don’t always have to have feelings attached to them. Sometimes the difference or likeness in something between two people can offer a lot of objective information you can draw upon.
You explained ur experience and instances across the years that you spent at juilliard with such an Honesty.
Thanks for sharing ...will be glad to see part 2.
Very interesting video. Thank you! (and best wishes to you, from Montreal).
Interested in part 2. Thank you. Very interesting
I’d love to see a part 2, I really like this video because it’s valuable to me even though I’m working in other areas of music. Valuable lessons in life! I like what you said about comparing yourself to others and about how you were able to get past what one of your teachers thought about your decisions. Also just being in my early 20s this info feels really valuable to me.
Part two please! Never went to school but you are one of my best teachers. Many thanks.
I think this is instructive far beyond the study of music! Again I see also one of those rare teachers who's insightful self-reflections make their teachings always profound! If I put aside Leonard Bernstein's acting, then I see your teaching on the same level! The both of you share this unique ability to make the act of transforming feelings and thoughts into meaningful sounds, noises and rhythms so that everyone can understand it.
Thank you!!
Highly intelligent presentation of the topic. It’s always enjoyable watching your videos, either playing or discussing different things.
Please make a part 2 if you're willing and have the time to do so! Hearing your insight as a musician has definitely opened me up to new perspectives and ideas I can possibly take as a music producer trying to improve