There is an EPIDEMIC in Apex that nobody talks about.
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When you wanna play the same legend as your teammate, but they leave the game when they don’t get them 🤣🤣🤣
The worst
such babies lol
Like go cry cry about whomp whomp
Or leave after they get them and go down on drop so you’re stuck as someone else after they rage quit lol
This reminded me of one time very early on in Apex when I inadvertently automatically picked Lifeline while my new teammate kept telling me not to. For the next minute or so, he completely went off on me at full volume even though I said I was sorry so when we dropped I dove straight into the sea then told him to enjoy the game. One of the few times I left a game early but he deserved it.
It also happens that crappy team mates won't revive, pickup your banner or craft your banner after you go down. I have literally waited till the last ring for a respawn while pinging a crafter. My main is conduit so anyone on my team can craft banners. This has happened multiple times they just go on playing like i never existed. So it happens both ways and I can see why people leave.
especially if the two surviving players are duo queuing and they just see no need to res you.
LIFELINEEEEEE RESSS MEEEEEEEEE 😂😂😂
How many times did you ping? Depending on my mood if somone spam pings I'll either leave instantly or mute and play like they never existed.
Never understood how idiots think pinging 20 times will make me want to do what they want. Makes me want to treat them like the piece of garbage they are.
True. But insta leaving? I wait to see how things play out at least.
What’s crazy is that they leave coz they think the game is a lost cause, but it’s kinda funny because some of my best games I’ve ever had are when my teammates leave and I’m forced to play smart and I end up winning a lot of the times.
And because I’m on console, I’ll screenshot the end-game banner that shows my damage kills and win and send it to them.
If they cared about the win, they wouldn't have left.
Most of the time, if they get knocked, their team is going to die already.
It's 100% quicker to get back into a game than wait to be respawned, it does help that you keep your gun and armor now though
@@anthonyetzold2563yeah but they be leaving after I’ve already finished the enemy team and walking over to res them.
@@anthonyetzold2563so you're saying that even though they're downed and your team is winning the fight they should just leave
@@felipezamora9711 I never said anything even close to that
@@anthonyetzold2563 but that what happening here players are leaving even before they die dude
It is the old and well knowed shadow Wraith's ability: AQAK - Auto Quit After Knocked
There's so many factors that could be playing into why someone leaves when they get knocked. I think the biggest one is honestly sweat culture. It's the combination of thinking youre better than your teammates, and wanting to spend as much time alive as possible. Most good players ik leave as soon as they get knocked because they dont want to waste time being downed. They want to get into the next game so they can keep improving. So I don't necessarily fault people for leaving. It's usually the best option. The real problem is how awful the matchmaking is. If the matchmaking were better and your randoms were always around your skill level, people would be less inclined to leave immediately cuz theyre not already certain that theyre the teams designated carry. But unfortunately sbmm punishes anybody with a k/d above 1.2. Your teammates will always be worse than you, and leaving will always be the best option.
It is honestly tough. How do you define someone being of similar skill level to you? You can have three people that are all decent at the game, but two of them might play more defensive or strategic than you. So when you run in and die and see your teammates hanging back, does that make them bad players? No matter what, when I solo Q, I don't personally see my teammates as being good or bad. You also have to factor in that people have bad games for one reason or another. I have had so many people call me trash one game, and then I will drop 10+ kills the next game. I have learned to just mute my teammates when I am not playing with friends lol
@@adamjohnson7325 the problem is apex's matchmaking. Every player is given a number based on their skill. The lobby wants the total skill number on every team to be the same. So say the number is 15. While it would make sense for the lobby to try to put a bunch of players with a rating of 5 together, thats not how it works. If you solo queue there is always a designated carry on every team. So maybe one team is 3 stacking and theyre 5+5+5=15. But youre solo queuing so instead the team looks like 10+2+3=15. If your kd is above a 1.2 you are going to be the carry 9/10 times. So it's not even me judging my teammates. Statistically speaking, its almost guaranteed that your teammates are worse than you.
I feel like if your teammates are in the middle of fighting another team and they can’t automatically come revive/pick you up then there’s no reason to leave like that. But if you get teammates/randoms that aren’t fighting another squad and just taking their time looting & completely ignoring the fact you need to be picked up/revived then at that point it’d definitely warrant someone leaving. Because I’ve had so many shit teammates that don’t give a shit about the person that’s downed cause they want to be loot goblins even though majority of the time that person who’s downed is the one doing majority of the work in the match sometimes not always but sometimes, then because they’re so busy looting they get bombarded by another squad or two other squads and then the whole team is fcked, I try to stay as long as I can even when I have shit teammates but once it’s almost every single game I get into it’s definitely annoying and ridiculous. So at the point I’ve just stopped playing unless I can play with my friend, and not some randoms.
The “fuck off george” meme had me dead 😂😂
I personally think that using the ping that you're either going to rez or grab the banner would keep SOME players in. It at least shows the team that you recognize that the player is down/dead.
In the heat of battle, your main concern is on other things other than pinging you will revive or get their banner. I think it's best wait after the area is clear to revive because we all too often have heard those unwavering footsteps during a rez that could decide whether you win or lose to a fight.
5:01 what rich says here about the wraith stereo type got me fucked up lmao cause my friend is a wraith main on stretch res 🤣 and he always insta leaves… Even when I’m his teammate.
Crazy. 10/10 love these guys lmfao
Love the new approach on videos with you adding additional commentary here and there. Keep up the grind Moose!
I always say gg and good luck before i quit 😂
"Go Nessie, I got you" 😂 I love how you appreciate Nessie more than those who rage quit
my sole beef with solo no fill is the added que time; it incentivizes randoms to dgaf and insta leave. i dont mind an extra 10 people in the drop ship if theyre all solos but the system promotes behavior as such. we cannot expect the player base to evolve so we 'should' change the system to allow these dropouts to behave as they prefer without damaging the experience for people who want teammates. would still happen but hopefully less so
This is pub life.. People quit when downed
I got banned by a semi-popular Apex streamer for reasonably calling out/explaining why doing that sucks for us.
I don’t think that person is very relevant anymore. So maybe I should have said “formerly semi-popular”.
@@supdawg7811who was it
Who was it, call their name out!
me too. Who was it
Stop the cap
My suggestion, if the player leaves before banner timeout, the punishment should be that you queue into the next match without a team until you are legitimately eliminated then you can queue in with a squad again. If you leave in that "solo" game without being eliminated then the punishment resets
That wouldn’t change anything, all you’d have to do is drop off the map the next game.
Bro it's pubs....
they leave so they dont get a kill on there kd@@SteezyKyung
I've talked about this awhile back on social media and at respawn themselves. I want them to consider penalizing any player that quits out of any match before the timecard is expired. Its weird that they penalize you for leaving a mixtape match, but doesn't penalize the players that back out of pubs. Those players ruin the fun for everyone else
It’s a huge problem for me as I just started playing again and none of my old buddies play anymore. So I’m always solo queuing until I find new partners. In the meantime, I’m so sick of dealing with all my teammates quitting the second they get thirsted, even if we’re winning the fight and right next to a respawn
ok, so this is something I've seen from you and jankx often. You keep fighting rather than thinking about banner. Literally you were on the stairs in monument heading toward the vantage and then you turned to go back up top to fight someone. That's why people SOMETIMES leave (maybe 2% of the time, lol), because it doesn't appear that you're going for banner.
In that situation 100% I can understand that’s what my teammate thought. If we’re talking just between Jankz and I though we have gentleman’s agreement between us to finish the fight (or at least try to) before going for banner so at least one of us can get content from it! In our experience if we leave the fight to go res, by the time we’re back the fight is over and lobby died
A gentleman’s agreement
*HUZZAH*
People forget it's not just a team game. It's skill based and about surviving as well. If your team is in the middle of a fight, you have to think about what's more advantageous. Them bailing on the fight to scoop someone who isn't capable and putting them in a bad position or them finishing the fight and then going for the revive or res. Most of the pubs players don't comprehend the game beyond point and shoot.
you need to get some Sun...........LOL and maybe a haircut.🤣
The sword in this game is wayyyyyy to powerful😢. Nice video moose!!!
I absolutely agree. I hate that to my core. Whether in ranked or pubs, I think it's absolutely disgusting that people just leave the game. There was this female Streamer I was watching the other day, and she's so arrogant. She left the game, and the guy was like, " You left, and she was like, ' yeah, whatever.' How can you be a streamer and abandon people that way, and people still follow you? People are good at saving their people or getting the Res off. But there are so many selfish players. Apex should have greater penalties. One hour wait time if you abandon Ranked plus two hundred l p loss. 3 hour, wait time in pubs, since you don't lose L. P.
but what about the people who leave because they can't be respawned (as in banner timed out) how's apex supposed to know that's why you left and should they receive a ban for it?
@@hayley__939simple, if your box is timed out and you don’t have a support legend to craft, you cant leave. If not, you can leave. Very easy to config.
@@hayley__939 It already knows, there is no penalty once the banner is timed out
@@hayley__939the game will tell you about penalties for leaving when your banner is up but once your banner times out you are free to go as you please with zero repercussions. The game literally knows 😂
I almost spit my coffee out when you shit on path and buddy said “know your fcn place trash!” 😂😂😂
Like that vantage, sometimes i would leave after waiting for a little bit but saw that my teammates seem uninterested in grabbing my banner
you realize its streamers who only care about getting kills that created that trend. Ever watch a Faide video where he dies.
I have a rule if me and a teammate is fighting and our 3rd is still looting 5 miles awhile and never recognized we were fighting and needed his help I leave so fast, that's my rule about leaving, but if it's all 3 of us Fighting I never leave
Yo I just posted a comment similar. Yeah...if you can't be a teammate don't expect to have one either. Some of these content creators don't realize the struggle a normal 9 to 5 go to. Ranked has been a nightmare because of random teammates that refuse to be useful. So there's a bigger problem with people that do not know how the triggers on the controller work, let alone the thumbsticks. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. Lol
I will never understand being masters and getting bronze teammates too. Maybe we are just a little fed up to moose.
So you are going to punish your tm8, because you aren't playing together
@@anthonyetzold2563 if you have no situational awareness, so a slow looting and no situational awareness then HELL YES
@@madsaltyskills if you aren't with your tm8, then you have no situational awareness either
Wraith mains have pretty much made themselves the iconic joke of leaving the game before even finishing the match😂
watched Cau7ion's stream with you last night and i totally get the story telling shift in your content. its fire. keep up the good work brother
Run double Nessies man... totally OP. :D Better yet, get your whole squad to run double Nessies. 6 at once!
OMG that Loba kill at the start after Wraith left was so funny! She face planted into the wall! XDDD I watched it like 20 times xD
Those TTV Wraith deserves a DEATHBOX BANNER as MYTHIC
There is no way I'm leaving if I ever teamed with these two legends!
In Apex Legends, there's no punishment for leaving pubs, while in Overwatch 2, leaving an unranked match results in a 10-minute timer that increases with subsequent leaves, eventually leading to a delayed queue; Valorant also implements a delay queue.
Not having maggie in your videos shouldn’t happen too often. starting my day depressed now thx moose
😭🙏🏼
The epidemic of atrocious matchmaking lol!
Wow man just started watching , you seem chill and are dope at Apex. I suck at the game but still have fun playing.
The clip at 16:11 😂💀
Me personally when im playing any sort of battle royale game if i get downed or anything i at least give my teamates a chance to do something i just dont see what warrants the instant leave
Damn. I was ready to see that 1v3 dub, BUTTTTT…. That ending was still dope. Haha. Nessie isn’t from DBZ, silly goose. Nessie is a Bonkai.🙃
Does my head in. Even when they are down to one player left and there's two of us left.
If I play pubs its usually duos, I only do trios in ranked for this exact reason lol
Hey moose thanks for the content.
I strictly play ranked for this reason, I got so tired of teammates leaving after going down so I made my own fix.
Thank you! This needs to be addressed
are your settings you last posted the newest settings also if they are do you recommend turning them up or down while warming up also do you still recommend no aim assist while warming up
Just happened to me the other day. Teammates got knocked and left but I clutched up and was ready to respawn them 😥🏆
👁️👄👁️😭😭
I couldn’t agree more. New subscriber. I mean, it’s an epidemic.
I usually am fighting before my randoms, may down 1 or 2 and die to the third and rage quit because they are still looting when I constantly ping to "regroup" & "attack" after looting, Is what I do an issue? Because I hate waiting around like im playing for RP when its pubs 🙄
I have a take on this, and you probably already know what I'm going to say. It's mainly because it's not ranked. Most of the time if its just a regular pub I don't care if someone leaves a match because I know personally its not the way I was playing, it's because they are probably using this as a warmup for ranked. That's perfectly fine, and really I don't care enough to be bothered by it. I don't think its epidemic if its been the culture of the game for awhile now. Ranked has always been and will always be the draw-in for the player-base. Until they add in like a premier pub based matchmaking.
Such a good video!!!
Watching you gives me hope for an eventual 4k
I know you guys are good and all, and I love the content, you, Jankz, Itemp, Sofarr, tce, but have you ever thought maybe it's your style of play that is the reason these guys always leave? Have you ever done a challenge where you can't let your random die? Like protect the President and your random is the President?
The reason that I leave my teammates when I go down is cause I’m still a new player I got into the game in November of last year and every time I go down my teammates just cuss me out and taunt me and never pick my banner up. Like every time I go down first (usually I’m the solo with a duo pair) the duo will usually always tell me how much I suck and why I should never touch the game. I enjoy playing but I’m not good enough to solo no fill. I finally got to a point where I can win most 1v1s but as soon as I go down nobody comes to rez or banner pick up. When I run into better players they still would prefer to just play with their duo and leave me in an evac even after they wipe.
I see a lot of folks ping banners if they intend to get it and don't want you to log out and that's what I do also. Then they hear the ping and potentially your teammate's affirmation (pinging and agreeing with a ping can be heard / seen even if voice chat is off). Maybe try that?
Also I know it's common for streamers or duo queuers to chat on discord and not on game chat, but that leaves that rando in silence. People are much more likely to stay if there's a verbal dialog and they trust you at all. I know that might not work as a content creator but I think those are factors. You have great positive vibes. People would stay more if they heard "hey man just a sec while we clean up this squad. We need you, bro! Gimme 30 seconds."
Nessie goes hard
I think it's all about patience. It's like they expect you to, like, magically teleport next to their banner THE SECOND they get thirsted, otherwise they be like "i'mma head out". I always wait at least for my time to expire.
Its a KD thing. Leaving before thirsted = no death on own stats. Means peeps can have an artificially high KD
moose: nessie's are better then teammates 85% of the time
rich: :(
lol
No joke, I think some people do it to get “matches played with…” challenges done. it’s the only rationalization i can come up with 😂
This happens whenever you put fill on when you either que into duos or trios especially on console
I think it's easy to say what you're saying when you're the good enough to remain alive most of the time. When you're the one trying to be a teammate and you get boxed time and time again for your teammate to crap on you, stay and go from fight to fight and if they happen to pass a crafter then maybe but most of the time, you're just spectating them play and eventually die. I know this from countless hours of experience and got tired of it myself. I've also had players get on the mic and say don't leave and I gladly respond no worries and stay but sadly I've found that 90% of Apex players will crap on you and it's a miracle to occasionally get the other 10% that plays as a teammate.
I find myself playing a lot of ash to ability lock the sword in fights is funny watching them try to get out of her ability
Honestly the most annoying thing about the nessies are finishing knocked players. Cause not only is it just so unlikely that a player doesn't finish you, you now have a stuffed animal to finish the job
😂😂 bro it's a plague. Always has been when it come to AQAK.
I have a theory. I think the word TOAD RAGE reminds your teammates that they have to RAGE QUIT 😂😅
I generally believe in sticking around but I do make exceptions and leave early sometimes. Sometimes it's due to irl stuff but most of the time it depends on my team and if they are playing like a solo or a team. If your playing like a team I'll usually stick it out no matter what happens.
A reason I never see mentioned is that a chunk of rage quitters leave to preserve their precious k/d ratio because it somehow doesn't count as a death if you leave while downed. Fixing that would probably stop some quitters.
Two epidemics. 1. Teammates that quit early
2. Getting put in lobbies with teams streamers or people that play games all day long
We need more Nessie 1v1s! 😄
I support you 10000%
The event is good, but the matchmaking is 💩. Which in terms makes the game 💩, so it’s a shame this is where the game is. I gotta live vicariously through Moose’s eyes since I can’t fight off the hordes of 3 stack preds or masters the game decides on putting in my lobbies. I’am almost convinced these are the only ppl playing the game anymore.
I wanna see a Nessie only 4k damage challenge
7k hours: if I leave its 1 of 3 reasons:
1. I wait to see the next engagement my teammates get into if they both get cracked (lose dmg exchange) I dip.
2. I got my teammates/friends waiting in lobby for me.
3.going for a 20 bomb or 4k on a certain legend or newest legend (rare I'm doing that, but it happens)
Keep in mind if the game is frustrating you to the point, you are stressed or raging you definitely should just hop off as opposed to yelling at your randoms or friends... My whole thing is we never know really what's going on, on the other side of the screen for other people. It's best to just let it roll off your shoulder and que up for the next game or play a different game to change things up.
I do not leave until I am expired, or until the others refuse to craft me for a long period... Because I have seen people pull off miracles and save me, and I've done the same. It's frustrating when I go into a high risk situation to grab a banner and the person DCs right as I get in the shit as well.
That most likely happens in every match, usually the players with a lot of achievements
I can confirm randoms dont leave for the reasons you mentioned its something else entirely i had randoms leave the moment i grab their banners, its ridiculous
The old thingy where if you leave too many games in a row you get a penalty (i'm pretty sure they did it in pubs once)
What I love the most is when you play Newcastle or Lifeline and they instaquit even tho you are right next to them.
People quit control matches after 51%is reached even if they have 2minutes penalty, no wonder they quit immediately when knocked.
What I also hate is quitting as the last member alive, I always stay even if my banner runs out and so many times my surviving teammate just quits out instead of playing
I left a teammate last night but it was a situation that me and my duo were both full killed and our teammate ran from the fight so like.... it didn't look like he was getting our banners or finishing the fight. I can't recall if we had a craft banner person in that lobby but I wasn't interested in the teammate ratting it out.
Saw the title, came here to say that as a strict solo q player for 18 straight seasons, this is why I still have no 4k or 20B. And not for never coming close, but when you get a squad the game bases you off the skill your team has as a whole and matches you accordingly. Throughout the changes the fact still remains, once you are solo there is very little you can do against coordinated 3 stacks that are geared to be as set for a win as you are.
I usually watch my teammates and give em a chance as long they act like team player and don't loot or fight the other side of the map
After you've been respawnd with wraith and the error pop up showed up 😂😂😂😂
Season 20 is round the corner but nothing has been done yet regarding this issue. Everyone has been talking about it and even though wraith and horizon players doing their own thing with no team work what so ever then leaving the game really destroys the motivation to play this game. By now you would think they would implement a penalty for leaving which would force these type of people to play as a team. I have lost the will and the motivation to play let alone enjoy this game anymore even though im very passionate about this game
If the team is knocked and your priority isn't a full reset, then I'm out.
Ive had both octane and wraiths leave while i was ressing as newcastle
I'm leaving everytime if I have a teammate too agniva to push anything and me and my homie die trying to fight everyone in our poi while he just casually sits back. Naw...you say we have a problem. You're damn right. Not playing with burgers. And there is an influx of them lately. When you think of how much time goes into one game. I'd like to play many before my internal buzzer tells me otherwise.
Matchmaking is the biggest issues. The mid players get mowed down by the elites. And most people who still play this game are elite. And beginners have zero chance.
Speaking to your team like an actual human being helps making your teammates stay. I feel like a lot of people just rip into you for no reason and thats not what gaming is about. I can admit i do rip into some people from time to time, but its never ill intension. Just wanted to work better as a team.
I get what you're saying, but that still doesn't justify them leaving as soon as they get knocked. If you wanna get in out as soon as you lose, then no fill. You wont get respect just by backing out and not giving your team a chance to help you out. I dislike people that do that
It's never justified to be an asshole ever in a team game. But I'm not going to get bent out of shape over things I can't control. So I just try to make the best out of a shitty situation, and if they leave its fine its what's expected.
@niimo808 if they think its justifiable to waste 2 of their teammate's time by going their own direction, not listening to the team, and backing out as soon as they get knocked, then thats you. I used to be like that, but its honestly annoying asf that they do this shit without getting penalized. The only thing I do is just shame them by showing how useless they are as a teammate. Some think they're better than me all because they have "stats" that are better than mine. Its sad how they think stats matter until ut gets to that 1v1 they call me out on🤷🏾♂️
At the end of the day, I just want these bums to get penalized if they think its okay to back out immediately. Its cringe asf
That last gameplay was actually insane though. 100% Nessie over rando.
When a player leaves on knock I guess it new form of when a last member of your squad still standing and there's one player want to kick the player out to end the match or round only for last squad member to win the match or the round and on Nessie they can easily cost your team the fight if you revive a team or heal up
For a lot of people, it's a k/d thing. People can leave while knocked to avoid taking a death in their stats just to flex a .5 k/d anyway
Ngl I am that teammate that leaves as soon as I fully die or when I see my teammates health get low I’ve been trying to stop myself but that option button and ‘X’ just calls to me.
You laugh about the lifeline not drone dropping but this happens to me EVERY time I play with a lifeline....just yesterday...teammate says you come to me....while he hides and we are fighting lmao
i am always in trio and it's always with random players, or they Get knocked and leave or they leave when the game hasn't started yet, I am a lifeline main, at least let me have a change to try and revive you before you leave.
If it’s an octane or wraith you already know 😂😂
I do it because I want into another game and I always move to a position where I can be healed but I’ve had them knock teams go loot and let me die off after like I’d knock two of the players myself I always run in and gun shit down and allow others to mop up the rest but if the teammates show by pinging or whatever then I stay in
This event should be an ltm
Can’t wait for the sword to be gone…
leaving the game when knocked, is warranted in QUICK MATCH.
It is a matter of expectations one has for the game when they start playing. For some, the idea of fun and engagement is staying in the game and passively watching your teammates trying/not trying to get you up.
for me leaving in qm is warranted, because as I'm playing apex since the very start, I've had countless teammates that straight up ignore the banner. For the average player, that gets knocked down much more than you or other high skill players, that baner timeout down time really ads up.
And solo no fill is not an option for an average player, to go solo against a lobby of 3player teams (be it randoms or 3stacks). I can down 2 ppl, rarely can win a 1v3. So there is no point queuein solo no fill, as I simply need teammates to provide fire support in a fight.
to expand on it further- I stay in the game after being knocked down in qm, ony if there is a good chemistry with teammates from the start of the game. That means good comms, some friendly banter, teamplay, etc. If there's none of that, and I'm time constraint- leave the game.
Being honest cause I have done this a couple of times going off of moose saying whether it's a patience thing or no faith thing it's a mixture of both cause for some reason I get put with apex press but then my team mates are silver and honestly it's just frustrating having no team coordination again I understand it's a bad thing but that just my opinion