Analyzing Evil: Count Dooku From Star Wars
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- Welcome everyone to the twenty-eighth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Count Dooku from Star Wars. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Next two videos will be on Vader and Palpatine respectively! I hope you all enjoy this episode.
Analysing Evil: Jason Voorhees WHEN?????
Thanks a lot. I just dying to see a Video of those two
Vader is gonna be a loooong episode...
Tom Riddle AKA Lord Voldemort
ani and palps cool
“Count Dooku, as with any character portrayed by Christopher Lee, is a pleasure to watch.”
Amen.
That's because Christopher Lee was an absolute badass.
Should have stuck to dentistry. Imagine the wonka chocolate factory in the prequels. The omp lumpas would get slaughtered in order 66. Maybe that’s why palpatine aged so fast. Too many trips to Willy Wonkas chocolate factory
@@freiza79 The fuck is your problem?
Christopher Lee was absolute class.
@@gintuner4371 The fuck is your problem?
Dooku was the perfect Jedi. Isolated, almost no family, sure of himself, precise, powerful, able to think on his feet, courteous, and without strong emotional attachments to anyone or anything. Really, his issue wasn't that he "fell" to the Dark Side; it was that if he never did, he might have wound up in the exact same place.
Something I constantly think about, due to my studies into Buddhism, was that it believed that attachments themselves are the cause of suffering.
But while in Buddhism it is a reason to enjoy life and be kind with the knowledge that you, your loved ones, and your good life may all end in an instant (at least under the way I came to follow its philosophy), I couldn't help but think what happens when someone does, indeed, completely lack any attachments and desires, to the point he even sees living beings as assets. Enough to cause their suffering under either an extremely Utilitarian philosophy, or even a psychopathic state-of-mind.
The Jedi school of belief, out-of-canon, is heavily inspired by it, and... well, their dogmatism to PRACTICE, and not belief and concern for mental health, seems to constantly cause Jedi to fall from grace. Anakin is the perfect example of someone being told to bury their emotions, until his emotions buried him. But Dooku... his separation from everyone, and noble intentions, ultimately turned him into a villain.
Different paths, all ending into the same place.
(Of note, this is why I love the Old Republic era. The Jedi Good / Sith Bad dichotomy is deconstructed, played with, and analyzed in the context of philosophy, to the point of showing how flawed both philosophies turned out to become as time passed... and why Revan sought to fix that.)
His one and only flaw (being a jedi) was his desire for power.
@@pmsdgy1325 Not power. It was his desire to control. He thought it was his place for force his peace on everyone else. Power hungry individuals are like Darth Malgus. Brutal, heavy handed, unempathetic to savagery. Dooku wasn't that. He was as a Jedi empathetic to a idealistic fault. When he became a Sith those ideals which were originally and in a messed up way based on empathy told him to sacrifice himself for the greater good. He even empathized with Anakin and Yoda. Yoda he empathized and got a glimpse of what a dark side Yoda would turn into, which terrified him. Anakin he empathized with Anakin demons which drew him close to Sidious plans, though he never made that connection. You can see the fearful empathy finally on his face when under Anakin two sabres he gave that final plea/look. That's not someone who desires power to me. That's someone driven too far by feeling too much empathy while being intelligent.
(Sidious also played on his ideals and empathy by keeping Dooku busy with the task and promising him falsehoods)
Not a perfect jedi. A perfect version of what the jedi had become in relation to the times. Dooku was always concentrating on how his ego (perception of himself as an individual entity within an infinite universe) was right in terms of the historical purpose of the jedi. Dooku was right in many ways but would never release his ego to the force. He couldn’t connect with the light side fully cuz that actually means letting go of his certainty of his importance. Hence palpatine swoops in and assures him of that importance.
As cool as Maul is, I think the prequels would have been better without him and just having Dooku from start to finish. It would also be more impactful if he killed Qui-Gon since it would be just like Vader killing Obi-Wan.
It's poetic; He was a good man who believed that the ends justified the means, but in indulging in that practice and allowing Sidious to influence him, he became a horrific parody of himself.
He literally became the very thing he swore to destroy.
@@freezalo7521 kind of a theme to this story
This is the fate of ALL that use the Dark Side enough. You become a shadow of your former self.
@@keltsuneNot necessarily. A Sith who had a strong personal moral code could be a powerful force for Good, in the narrow interpretation of the Good they do serve. Imagine a Sith dedicated to ending slavery for example. If he was strong enough in his convictions, he wouldn't give in, wouldn't take the easy way.
The problem is Sith ideology is about breaking restrictions and overcoming barriers to fulfilling your desires. Eventually your selfish desire will be tested against your morals...and for most Sith, those simply become another set of barriers to break through. You free the slaves and become a tyrant, making slaves of the people you defeated. It is very easy to go from gaining power as a means to an end, to gaining power being the end itself.
@@dustinjones7458, yes necessarily. At least the way that George Lucas describes the Force and uses it in his movies. Many writers for EU material misinterpreted how the Force works and made it so that those that use the Dark Side have a bit more control and can potentially do "good" things whilst also being under the influence of the Dark Side. But that totally defeats the purpose that the Dark Side was supposed to serve in the eyes of George Lucas. Knights of the Old Republic is one of the only sources of EU material that I can currently think of that closely adheres to the rules of the Force that GL has laid out clearly.
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The "Light Side" is *enlightenment.* Not a "other side," but the totality of becoming one with all of life.
Jedi strengthen their connection to the Force by being calm and focusing one's mind on meditation and existing in the present.
By calming one's mind to reach inner peace, a Force-sensitive can become zen, spreading their attachment to all of life and thereby become more capable in their use of the Force.
The core of the Jedi philosophy is that using the Force negatively leads to the widespread destruction and oppression of all of life.
Thematically, the Jedi represent the symbiosis and binding of all life, and the balance between sapient life and nature.
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The "Dark Side" is a negative side-effect of the Force that stems from forcefully drawing out life with one's negative emotions through severing one's attachment to its collective.
The Sith indulge in their emotions, such as anger, fear and aggression, acting on whims, and losing their connection to life by being irrational, unfocused and neurotic.
Indulging in psychotic urges and acting irrationally on strong emotions such as anger, fear and aggression, lead one to forcefully draw out life itself, corrupting and twisting it for their usage.
Through negative emotions, a Force-sensitive loses their relationship to life by focusing their minds on life-destroying goals, forgetting their connection to the collective whole of life and having their psyche consumed by the desire of acquiring power.
By using the Force negatively, over time, Force-sensitives progressively lose their humanity and increasingly desire to hoard power for its own sake and rule everything.
Degradation of physical appearance and one's pupils turning yellow are signs that an individual has become highly corrupted by the Force and is beyond redemption.
The "Dark Side" of the Force is a metaphysical defense mechanism of the Force against any sapient lifeform that attempts to use the power of life (the Force) to harm life, itself.
Using the Force negatively is highly addictive and self-destructive, like a drug. It makes an individual lose their humanity and volitional capacity until they become a shadow of who they once were. This corruptive affect of the Force is the unspoken rule by which the Jedi and Sith exist, and it echoes in their history.
The core of the Sith philosophy is that sapient life is ontologically superior, and that everything aught to be used to further one's benefit, regardless of the personal cost of becoming corrupted by the Force.
Thematically, the Sith represent the unbinding of life by desiring supremacy over all of life through the acquisition of power.
By rebelling against life, the Sith create an oppressive environment for other living beings, and it is only upon their removal that life can flourish again.
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I've had people say that this description reeks of "Jedi propoganda" but it's just the reality of the Force in Star Wars. The Force is life itself, and using the Force (the power of life) to destroy life becomes this "curse of contradiction," if you will. Which is why those that use the Dark Side become a shadow of their former selves.
I know this hurts many people's ideas of living out their fantasies of being a Sith Lord, but it's just the way she goes.
Also, don't conflate real-world philosophies and dichotomies with how the Force should work (like many people do when I try to explain these concepts to them), because the Force does not exist in our reality, so it's literally impossible to do so. Yes, the creation of the Force was heavily inspired by real-world philosophies and dichotomies, but that's where the similarities end.
Let's all agree on one thing: Dooku had the best lightsaber. The fact Christopher had more swordfights than anyone on film and had a hand in the design of it surely helped.
100%!
The fact Christopher had more swordfights than anyone on film
That's a beautiful statement
Count Dooku has the most beautiful Lightsaber style I've seen.
Graceful, precise and no wasted movements.
It was interesting the way they detailed dooku's lightsaber. It was curved because when you trained a fight with swords you don't so much look at the sword as you do the arms and hands of the wielder. It's slight angle throws you off
The style Dooku used to form 2 (Makashi), it was an older form out of favor with the Jedi and the time which made it stand out. The focus was lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat, it was not needed as much during Dookus time with the Jedi.
The guy who playes Dooku (Christopher Lee) is an actual expert in swordfighting and duels and such.
Dooku’s lightsaber is also designed based on a sword owned by Charlemagne (holy Roman emperor) which christopher lee is a direct descendant of.
Hey if you guys heard of DJ dooku? Look up auralnauts Jedi party part 1. It's so strange Star wars parody in an alternative universe that is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life and there's six of them. Eventually you'll get the DJ dooku but I highly recommend you take the time to watch them because they're just so great I can't wait for the next trilogy. I have no benefit in plugging this I just know it is so freaking hilarious that everyone should see it that is a Star wars fan
Dooku is such a morally Grey character. He has sith lightning but never had Sith eyes which I find interesting.
Dooku had sith eyes in a few scenes in the clone wars animated series, the not canon reason why he didn't has them is because Christopher Lee didn't want to wear yellow lenses in canon it is explained - Dooku uses dark side like a tool to reach what he wants not like a way of life like Sidious or Maul so his eyes turn yellow only when he go full dark side mode he did it a few times in that show
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@@masteryoghurt2110 Thank you, I've seen SW:tCW several times but apparently missed that canon explanation. Makes a lot of sense.
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he wasn't unique Darksider
Christopher Freaking Lee was truly one of the most influential and greatest actors I’ve ever seen! What an amazing man!
@BurritoWarrior Indeed. He was one of the few that was probably more badass than the characters he portrayed (which is saying a lot). I would have loved to have met him.
Dooku is the example of the hidden flaws of the Jedi. He wanted to be strong and the best dialect but when they didn’t let him, he became what they wanted, he realized how wrong the Jedi were, and “fell”
Beyond good and evil is the grey way
He wanted reforms
What exactly are the flaws in the Jedi? They aren’t politicians and have no formal ability to affect republic policy. They quite wisely decided that a fascist Sith empire shouldn’t be allowed to return. And despite studying their “culture” potentially being very useful, they probably noticed that the Sith axiomatically always fall into infighting and betrayal and that not matter the gains that could be made from studying their tenets it would inevitably cause decay and anarchy, the ultimate evil.
@Gabe Robison Well I guess the main problem they have is that their too aloof even to their own emotions which can conflict with more emotional people like Anakin and is what ultimately led to their downfall.
@@mattgilbert7347 Kill one baby and save one baby, perfect system.
Nice to see Dooku getting more attention. Such a complex and compelling character. Much like Anakin hes a case of good intentions going horribly wrong.
Yeah, it's not surprising he wanted Anakin as his general in his vision of Empire
Dookus intentions to turn to the dark side was to change the Galaxy for the better, whereas anakins was more selfish just to save his wife
@@phantomsidious2934 Well, Anakin has a good reason to save his wife. Since he didn't want another loved one to die in his arms plus his children would've died with her so he didn't want to take that risk. Anakin did change the galaxy with this choice and suffered the consequences for almost 2 decades.
@@grayski3324 Don't forget Palpatine's heavy influence in Anakin's fall to the dark side.
@@hardcoreking52 Indeed, Palpatine had a massive impact on Anakin's turn. Things would've changed greatly if Qui-gon lived and trained Anakin, he need the father figure in his life and Qui-gon was it.
I’ve been looking forward to this...
Dammit I wasn’t fast enough! 😂
“I understood that reference.”
My powers have doubled since the last time we met Count.
Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.
(Cuts off hands)
Can we all just pause and appreciate the multitude of thoughts and feelings Christopher Lee practically rolodexes through during the scene where Palpatine orders Anakin to kill Count Dooku, as well as Anakin's hesitation?
You can literally see it on his face, the face of horrified betrayal.
“W-wait... what??”
In Attack of the clones, he has a look of sadness when he talks about Quigon, when Obiwan and Windu refuse to join him, and when he cuts off Anakin's arm. I don't believe he is actually cold and emotionless but that it is just a mask he wears.
I agree. They took time to show his facial expressions which give off the impression that he doesn't like what he has to do but he does it. It isn't until you add in the extra stuff that happens in the Clone Wars series that Dooku seems more twisted & emotionally stunted, just doing evil for some mysterious reason.
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 But it was also revealed that he was at heart a Politician. He served in the name of the CIS only, wanting to distance from the Complacent Jedi, and Corruption of The Republic.
@@ndcentral8194 agreed. I think Count Dooku is probably one of the most complex and 3-dimensional villains. He actually has conviction towards his beliefs rather than a blind ignorance to a certain order, of which we see with many of the Jedi and Sith. Vader’s my first favorite villain, but Dooku holds a close second.
@@hazmatt3250
Mine would be Dooku and Starkiller
Also that he says to Obi-wan that together they can destroy the sith, To me at least I think that he had a back plan with the help of Obi, overthrowing Palpatine and not going full sith
Dooku's backsotry has quite a lot of paralels with Sauron in the Sillmarillion
Holy shit you’re right
@Anonymus X how fitting
A man of culture
Well said
I think Christopher Lee probably got a kick out of that. I’m sure he noticed it himself.
Crazy how unique and different each of Lucas's villains are. Vader is just so good he outshines the rest.
And then we have Kylie who just flip flops all I’ve the place and screams
@@Galvatronover Not one of Lucas's villains, it's one of Abrams.
@@loxchi8169 I know just comparing
@@Galvatronover It's all good
Well in my opinion he is the most boring out of Palpatine's apprentices but he is still very interesting character
If only this video was made after the release of Tales of the Jedi. It truly has made an excellent visualization of Dooku's disillusionment of the Jedi Order and fall to the dark side that stemmed from a ever caring man that wanted to better the Republic.
Tales of the jedi is just a watered down version of everything already discussed
Dooku is probably the most complex character, as far as Star Wars baddies go, and Tales of the Jedi shows this nicely, but even there, Dooku is far too willing to step over into cartoonishly evil action. I wish there had been a bit more subtlety to his evil side, both in Tales of the Jedi and in the other Star Wars media we see him in. I kinda wish he was more likeable throughout, instead of only likeable when he's being charming. An aura of "I wish I didn't have to do this" would work better than "Screw it, I'm just gonna turn evil".
@@Beery1962 The more evil his actions get the more "I wish I didn't have to do this" it gets. Sidious verbally orders him to kill Yaddle. Meanwhile he's sure of himself when he's about to kill the tyrant senator. When he's gonna kill the Senator, there's the goal of removing his boot from the necks of the farmers. When he kills Yaddle, its basically just cover up the tracks of all the shit he's done at Palpatine's behest.
@@alexisborden3191 Yes, he does seem a little reticent at times, but when he says he doesn't want to do the bad stuff, it's subdued, so the audience never gets the sense that he's sincere (or at least I didn't). I wish the writers had emphasized his unwillingness more, so that he was more of a tragic character than a moustache-twirling villain.
Crazy theory: Dooku would’ve been the perfect villain to have for the overall prequel trilogy. He’s the most understandable and relatable much in a different way to Darth Vader is
He should’ve been the Seperatist villain, while Maul could’ve been an interesting underground sith with his own smaller, but more personal goals.
He should’ve left the Jedi council in Episode 1, broken by the revelation that the Sith had returned. Small things like that would’ve felt like more organic storytelling and justified the huge gap between TPM and AOTC (in my opinion, Anakin should’ve been a teenager to begin with)
Star Wars should have a "What if" series like Marvel is getting on Disney+
@@aaronvirdee5813 They kinda do already called Star Wars Infinities, they were comics from Dark Horse from 2001-2004 that were What if Scenarios, biggest one I remember is Vader turned good and didn't die, so he's in a white suit in a different telling of Return of the Jedi
@@Tadicuslegion78 cool
The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Fits dooku pretty well
you could say the same with anakin, just different reasons for doing what they did.
Ugh, fits a lotta people.
No one who is “evil” believes they are evil. Anyone who believes they are, inevitably comes off as cartoonish.
“If you can’t explain how a villain is a hero in their own mind, you don’t understand your villain.”
@@flamingmuffin666 except for Richard Ramirez (Night Stalker) and quite a few other serial killers who wanted to be evil and knew they were evil.
@@flamingmuffin666 While that does serve to explain some villains it does not have to be always the case. Some people really just want to see the world burn. People like that do exist in reality.
Or even it does not have to be pure evil. Some may not believe that what they are doing is right but simply not care:
Example: Tywin Lannister.
Count Dooku was easily one of my favorite Sith Lords in the Star Wars lore.
And mine as well. He's in my top five.
Agreed. Unlike most Sith, he's not a power hungry, bloodthirsty brute. Plus his fighting style is rather elegant
@@leonrobinson8180 except for the latter part of the clone wars when he became engulfed in the dark side and it's arrogance and greed for power.
@@s1d3k1ckRO his eyes were sith eyes alot during that time too
@@s1d3k1ckRO Yeah, that's one of my big problems with TCW. They took what could have been a great villain that made the heroes question their position in the universe, and made him a Saturday morning cartoon villain instead. They could have . . . you know . . . have him raise some fair points that niggle at Anakin and he may find stuff he agrees with Dooku on. Make Obi-Wan question the Jedi Order and the Republic, but ultimately have him disagree and defend them with more tenacity in a great character moment. But no, we got an evil psychopath with no higher goals (it seems) than power in that show. To end this mini-rant, I will just say that while I do not hate the Clone Wars (2008), I do think it has quite a few problems. Dooku being one of them. I still like it though.
"An evil man can find himself fighting for a righteous cause just as a righteous man can fight for an evil one"
Lol
If more thoroughly realized, Tyranus could have been an excellent example of a "gentlemen and scholar" style villain.
He already is.
One of the best things out of the prequels
The memes come in close second
Clone wars cartoon is actually really good
Star wars*
That and Ewen McGregor's Obi Wan
Prequels are worthless garbage. Only blind childhood nostalgia can make the movies seem good.
Tbh dooku and anikin are low key similar like they mirror each other but form the different wealth class
I wonder why Dookus eyes didn't turn yellow?
@@reyvilla6994 it does it just at one he is low key about used the dark side two I just not as easy to spot on him
@@reyvilla6994 the same thing as Palpatine. They hid them from the jedi with the dark side. But Dooku is slightly different since he wasnt constantly full of hatred but when he was, they are visible
Darth Vader is supposed to be a mix of maul,dooku, and Grievous, cyborg, former Jedi, and groomed since birth like maul
@@reyvilla6994 Dooku could control the dark side. Maybe you could say his wisdom and jedi background trained him to keep his emotions under control.
He was my favorite Sith. His trash talking, especially toward Obi Wan was epic! "Surely you can do better"!
The most underrated SW villian. Also - Cristopher Lee was the only SW cast actor who actively practiced Real life sword combat, and literally were a war veteran. When Brit Queen granted him knighthood, she knew that this time - it wasn't just a fancy title (looking at u Elton John)
His fencing style the most awesome bc: 1) it looks very elegant. 2) it closest to what a real saber/rapier fencing looks like
Now this is an episode I'm going to enjoy. Dooku was always one of the most complex and underrated villains in Star Wars. I actually prefer him to Darth Maul to be honest.
He is much more complex than Maul, I find him akin to Saruman from Lord of the Rings in that he starts noble, but his pride, envy and frustration with the world lead him to eventually become the very thing he starts out to oppose.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Exactly. Dooku was right about the flaws of the Jedi Order and the Republic, but the path he chose in trying to fix everything was the wrong path.
If Dooku had led a secessionist movement to form a government free of the corruption in the Republic WITHOUT Sith influence, then he would have been in the right. It's becoming a Sith that destroyed him.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 that's funny you compare him to Saruman, they're literally played by the same guy lol
@@Verm1n true and he was actually playing them both at the same time. He was filming his death as Saruman at the same time he was scheduled to film his scenes for Dooku in Revenge of the Sith. I like that he's one of the few actors Lucas actually listened to on set when he disagreed with something Lucas planned. Originally in RotS Dooku was supposed to beg for his life and Lee said that would be completely out of character for Dooku to do, Lucas changed the scene to mirror what Lee thought would work better, which is why Dooku looks shocked and stunned but doesn't grovel.
@@jeskerjames2938 Yes, he thought he could use the Dark Side without being corrupted by it. It's a classic case of using the ends to justify the means, but inevitably that view leads to more and more extreme methods until anything is justified and the original goal has become almost unrecognizable.
Dooku certainly had the wealth, charisma and influence to do that, but if he had, I think he'd have been seen as a threat to remove by Sidious to his own plans.
The best chance Tyranus had was in the middle of the Clone Wars, he knew all the Republic programs, secrets and codes due to the proxy nature of the war. Revealing Sidious and forcing him to implement Order 66 early would devastate the Jedi, divide the Republic into factions between the Senate, Chancellor, Jedi and Military and undermine his Master-possibly even leading to his death if Yoda and Windu both confronted Sidious, then he could assassinate the heads of the Megacorporations and have Grievous run the war effort without restraining him. In a single stroke the main sources of corruption in the galaxy would be removed and the majority of the power placed into his hands. Since we know cloning and Essence Transfer exist in both Legends and Canon, he could even procure a younger body during this time and take Ventress fully as his apprentice.
Babe wake up, Vile Eye posted again
Dooku is my favorite Sith Lord. Always has been. It started just bcz of Christopher Lee's performance when I was a kid but as I grew up & got into it I realized how dope he was. The Dark Side was a tool, not his life, but that coupled with overestimating self worth & underestimating Papa Palp led to his eventual downfall.
He had everything. But his pride was his downfall. Ironic really considering what he says to Anakin in their duel, and how he wasn't aware of being a pawn all along.
"Twice the pride, double the fall."
I think he became aware in his final moments.
That's probably the saddest part about Dooku, insofar as you can pity him. He was much more of a Dark Jedi than a Sith. He embraced the dark side but kept his Jedi ideology.
When Palpatine betrayed him he was completely, utterly surprised. He couldn't even understand. Why would his master, his friend for years, betray him?
In the end he was a failed Jedi...and not nearly good enough of a Sith, either
@@dustinjones7458 he could have killed anakin and kenobi if yoda didn't save them wouldn't say he was a bad sith he was a better jedi then anakin and kenobi at first
@@dustinjones7458 I kind of like this interpretation. Because he's far more "ends justify the means" than most Sith, whereas most Sith are purely in it for selfish power, or in Vader's case self hatred, though I think he is a unique case. He has a code, as bastardized as it is. I think he truly believed he and Palpatine could make the Republic better, and their plot to kill millions would eventually work out in the end. Because in a way he was right, the Jedi had fallen, they had become tools of the Senate and glorified thugs for them. Their entry into the clone wars proved him right on this. However he had fallen so far that he didn't realize he had become the prime enforcer of the most corrupt thug of the entire senate in Palpatine.
The definition of a villain, the hero of his own story but only to fall to the Emperor of Deception.
So poetic, so thoughtful
Exactly
They couldn't have made Count Dooku look more like Dracula if they gave him fangs and a Transylvanian
Well Christopher Lee played Dracula soooo
Yeah , in Clone wars he even sleeps in a coffin-like bed, all cross armed and sh*t
@@gentlewolf9637 if anyone besides Bela Lugosi was Dracula, it was DEFINITELY Sir Christopher Lee
well he is called "Count" Dooku so maby he is a vampire.
YESSS!!!
That would’ve been awesome!
Thanks to Tales of the Jedi coming out not too long ago, the tale of Count Dooku just got even sadder.
That novel was a tragic masterpiece. The prose was exceptional
Some other evil characters I would personally enjoy seeing videos about:
- Grand Admiral Thrawn
- Lex Luthor
- Sabretooth
- Magneto
- Ra’s Al Ghul
- Denethor, Steward of Gondor
- Satan (Paradise Lost)
- Saruman
- Loki
Handsome jack from borderlands maybe?
Denethor was only evil in the movie. In the book hes ok and just goes insane at the end.
If he could do any of them next I vote for Thrawn and Ras!
Also Dr. Faust from both literature and the opera that bears his name.
thrawn is not evil stop the madness
Never fully committed to the dark or light sides...only used as tools. Ironically, much like how Sidious used Dooku as a tool.
Dooku being utterly surprised at Palps betrayal because deep down he still held to a Jedi Code, and the concept of a master or student slaying the other by treachery was unthinkable...that's sort of sad.
He probably thought he could challenge Palpatine to an honorable duel one day lol
One of the things I found interesting about Dooku, was that even though most Sith who uses Dark Side through anger and hatred and emotion, Dooku was shown to be more calm, collected, and in control of his emotions.
He got his power from smugness, supremacy, zeal
Dooku was a rare example of a Dark Jedi. Trained to self control, but uses the dark side. He wasn't quite as emotionless as he seemed, but he used cold emotions rather than hot ones-his pride was his strongest asset, a belief in his personal superiority and the rightness of his cause-he only lost when that pride was finally punctured by the realization Palps had been playing him for years.
Hence why he doesn't have sith eyes. He wasn't fully embracing the dark side
That's because the best Sith are able to harness their emotions, and store them for later. You see this a lot with other Sith Lords in Legends, like Darth Marr, or Darth Traya, who come across as calm, calculating strategists, until they need to use the force.
A compelling character and a legendary actor make a perfect combination. Count Dooku is one of the most spectacular characters in Star Wars. The first thing I did after getting Disney + was watch the three episodes of Tales of the Jedi featuring him. That was 45 minutes marvelously spent!
It's more than fair to pick and choose between cannon and legends. Disney does that themselves. Tanget aside, this is a phenomenal video as usual
Yeah because while some of the stuff they do I like a lot of it’s is either bad or taken from legends which is better
Legends had both good and bad stuff but even the bad parts of Legends I'll take over Disney's EU where things happen like everyone farting at a wedding, making and I'm not kidding an actual rock a character, fangirl pandering by making Kylo Ren a "misunderstood victim" and all that.
The novel sheds some light on his character. He was never evil per-se; he was utilitarian. He thought what he did was for the greater good [the greater good]. And while cruel at times, they were few and far between.
Yay hot fuzz reference!
Crusty jugglers
As George Lucas himself said: "Anyone who is evil never thinks of themselves as evil. They always think of themselves as good, even when they are not."
@@Darthpsychonis George Lucas also talks out his ass on anything that's not black and white
@@Darthpsychonis considering Lucas never wanted the Star Wars to more complicated than for 6 years old morality I think we can ignore him.
Dooku's an interesting character. It's a shame the movies sort of skip over him and you have to do homework to find out more.
Not evil but jaded with an air of class that is geting rarer these days
I actually think Dooku's vision of the future (him over seeing a dark jedi temple whilst Anakin is the fist) would have caused the Empire to have a much longer life span and to be seen much more favourably.
The three prequel villians foreshadow Vader. Maul was a vicious killing machine. Dooku was a jedi who turned to the darkside and grievous was a man who turned into a machine
It is ironic the main "villain" in Attack of the Clones and the Clone Wars is actually the most balanced force user in my opinion. He really didn't fall completely to the Sith but at the same time he recognized the faults of the Jedi and more or less straddled the line between Jedi and Sith.
Uh no. He is a full blown Sith Lord
You know, Dooku's motivations and backstory hits some beats that are quite similar to Magnus the Red from "Warhammer 40K".
"I know what I must do, too bad everyone else is too stupid to see that I'm right."
Too bad the republic didnt have the Space Wolves. That war woulda been over so much faster
@@coloneljoshuachamberlain3788 Imagine Palpatine having Space Wolves instead of Clone Troopers.
Sidious: "Execute Order 66."
Leman Russ: "We were supposed to wait for an order?"
@@AnomalyINC and then they execute palpatine for being a forbidden psyker
I genuinely believe dooku is the closest ever to being a gray jedi, as he keeps some of his light side tendencies, but he still has a decent enough grasp on the darkside
Qui Gon and Dooku are the most interesting SW characters, period. Tales of the Jedi added to this.
The "grandson" plot point is akin to lineage in certain martial arts. Some of the titles basically boil down to Martial Father, and Brothers.
It would not surprise me if this is not a familial but also a lineage line of thought
I can vouch for this. In Okinawan karate at least, students of a given school are listed in "generations" starting from the founder to the founder's direct students (1st generation), those student's students (2nd generation) and so on. And a great deal of emphasis is placed upon being in lower numbered generations as those who are closer to the source are more likely (but not always) closer to the source of the emphasis and ideology of what the founder intended. In my case, I'm a 3rd Generation student of my school (me > my sensei > his sensei > founder) and though some of my interpretations of technique are different than what my style's founder may have used personally, I tend to be much more grounded in the principles and concepts than someone who is several generations further down the line but with similar time spent training. This is reinforced in by what I have been told by the first generation students of my style (rather modern style formalized in 1959 by the founder in Okinawa) who say that I have come to different conclusions based on my own experiences and preferred focus (namely developing counter tactics so I can be better equipped to face a someone trained in modern MMA that is the most common/popular martial arts discipline today plus having done MMA myself when away from my dojo due to life situations taking me away from my dojo for some years), but the principles are sound and are not in contradiction of what the founder intended. Basically, a new flavor of what we do but still rooted in what we were trained in.
On a semi-related note, I like how the Episode 3 novelization talks about how the darkness expands in unpredictable ways. Because of Dooku sneaking into the vaults to look at Sith secrets, the Jedi Council put heavy restrictions on who could enter the archives, meaning Anakin would have to become a Jedi Master if he wanted to see those secrets himself in his quest to save Padme. So Dooku unwittingly helped sew a few of the seeds that would aid Anakin’s fall, even before he himself fell.
He seems like a villian who would order the destruction of a fleet while listening to some classical music
Dooku is a true lawful evil, the embodiment of the evil that aristocratic men can possess, believing the ends justify the means, regardless of how much suffering is brought out from their actions.
I would love a revisit after Tales of the Jedi.
I feel like you could fill a month of just Christopher Lee' characters
It’s interesting how Dooku never truly saw himself as evil. Sith like Palpatine or Nihilus didn’t try to hide their evil; they delighted in it. Dooku became what he was because he saw how corrupt the Jedi were. He recognized the flaws in the Republic, and seeing no way to fix it outside of all-out war, he helped Palpatine orchestrate the Clone War. He was an increasingly misguided idealist, allowing himself to be brought down to the level of those he despised so much. It’s a shame that this path was inevitable for his character
Since you've done a Christopher Lee character here, you should do a video on another character he portrays... Lord Summerisle from the Wicker Man. That would be very interesting.
Great idea!
I dont know if I consider him evil. He was trying to save an island of people in a traditional way.
@@Teaniinja I understand that point, but like the protagonist said to Summerisle and the people, "you can wrap it up any way you'd like, but you are about to commit mur*er"... ending another person's life premeditatedly is evil anyway you put it. Religious tradition or not. Not trying to "stir the pot", or start any debates, arguments on any other subjects, etc. Just saying. Also he has that subtle sinister and deceptive air about him, which makes him an even more intriguing case study for here.
@@markiek3530 idk, I don't think a sniper taking out a warlord is evil even though that would be heavily premeditated.
I would love to see an updated version of this using the tales of the Jedi mini series
Count Dooku epitomizes righteous evil. He is basically Frolo of the star wars universe.
Try Strange (Arkham City) who wants to make Gotham into a police state
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 Which is ironic as Corey Burton voices both Hugo Strange and Count Dooku.
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And Zeus (God of War trilogy)
Lucas really scored big time when he cast Lee as Dooku. Not only does he own the part, he oozes it. Noone goes home from the cinema not thinking he was easily one of the top 3 best characters in the movies he played.
My admiration for Dooku and the relatability to him makes me hate Palpatine even more.
Awesome that you did this video. Dooku is one of my favourite Star Wars characters/Villains. He's also criminally underrated. And I would also love to see elseworld stories about what if he didn't leave the Jedi or turned to the dark side. What if Anakin didn't kill Dooku in Revenge Of The Sith. What if Dooku's goal came to the fruition. Etc etc. There's so much you can do with him.
“Put those away! I don’t want to make a mess in front of the chancellor.”
OH my gosh the smoke.
Can't wait for when you do General Grievous eventually
I don’t know about grievous, I mean, he is a coward. He has a ok backstory but his character is limited. He doesn’t have anything deeper like Vader, dooku, or sheev
@@skuba6360 he has a phenomenal backstory and overall character if you look exclusively at legends continuity
@@Man_1117 yeah but legends isnt canon so whatever
Grievous is an interesting case because while he's one of the "Big 3" of prequel villains, he's more like a living plot device/monster. However, he does serve a very important part in the story of star wars, distracting Obi-Wan so that Anakin is left to his own flawed judgement. Grievous' motives are the simplest of the Star Wars villains, which he's said himself, is that the only thing he lives for is to see Jedi suffer.
@@coloneljoshuachamberlain3788Whatever, you say? So you prefer the JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson crap that's canon to quality legends material? You a moron?
It’s ironic how similar the Count and Anakin were considering their bitter rivalry throughout the clone wars. I think in better times the pair would’ve made a very interesting duo as fellow Jedi or perhaps even as master and padawan. I’d love to see how that would play out
Seeing the vision Yoda had where Dookuu was still around & Qui Gon was still alive makes me really sad. If Dooku hadn't turned & Qui Gon not died I think he would have gotten very familiar with Obi Wan & Anakin. I also think he would have been the only Jedi Master (bar Qui Gon) who would see the Chosen One as both a PERSON and an opportunity to set the problems of the galaxy straight rather than just an object or tool (like the council did).
One of the things I like about Dookuu is a trait shared with many of my other favorite villains: the thought of "what if this character never became an antagonist & how much better would things in the world/galaxy/universe/multiverse be if they were to apply themselves properly rather than problematically?"
Darth Malgus is a somewhat similar case, except he was always a Sith & very much kept the Sith ideals after he rebelled, but he turned against the EMPIRE that needed to be taken down, not the Sith doctrine. If he saw and admitted to the corruption & hypocracy of those using both the dark and the light, but started as a Jedi, the Sith would sh*t themselves.
Coming back to this after watching the Dooku episodes of Tales of the Jedi and I think you’re spot on. He was definitely a cold, stoic man who never had much affection for anyone save Qui Gon and any last bit of hope and belief in the Jedi and their mission he had died with his apprentice.
Since you’re analysing badass Sith Lords will Grievous be one of the Villains analysed.
Well he's not a sith lord but he probably will have a video
Feel like he's abit one dimensional in Canon
@@Daniel-ll2cl He could use legends Grievous who has a much better backstory and personality
@@sharp7079 ah fair enough
@@sharp7079 and way more badass.
Dooku is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. I've thought a lot about his backstory and everything we saw in the movies. Ever since I saw that scene in Clone Wars with Dooku Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan I couldn't help but imagine them forming a new Jedi order. Not necessarily a grey jedi order, but one that truly enacted upon the values of a jedi as opposed to the politics centric order that existed at the the time of the prequels.
Its great they visulized his background and jedi time a bit more in Tales of the Jedi showing the idealistic Dooku slowly falling into darkness through the dogmatic council and the corrupt senate. something only novels so far showed about his complex grey shades - while in the PT and CW he was already more potrayed as the elegant diplomatic sithlord who doesnt hesitate to use ruthless cruel methods to archieve his goals.
Dooku is one of the more underrated things about the prequel trilogy. A charismatic, morally-grey villain who foreshadows the fate that would ultimately befall Anakin with his own.
Griffith from Berserk is one i can’t wait for you to get into
YES, I NEED THIS
Same Ive been asking him for weeks to do griffith.
But Griffith did nothing wrong...
he did it!
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I am so stoked for all three of these videos!
I feel like if Palpatine wasn't in Dooku's life he probably could have become someone who would be able to have made the republic something better
We need a Count Dooku movie
He's like the Star Wars version of Sauron, to Palpatine's Morgoth. While Palpatine is the ultimate evil, who desires nothing but dominion over the universe regardless of its benefit or order, Dooku desires order and sculpture-like conformity, to organize all things that he considers lesser than himself. A bit ironic, considering that Christopher Lee played both Saruman and Dooku, that he'd resemble Sauron in a vague sense.
True lmao
@@Charles_S09aybe, in a different world, we could have had Christopher play Sauron and Ian play Morgoth in a movie version of The Silmarillion.
And Vincent Price as Saruman.
Francis Dolarhyde From Hannibal or the red dragon novel. Dolarhyde had the distinction of being both the most physically dangerous and sympathetic villain in the Hannibal lecter universe. He is a very strong from years of weightlifting, has combat training from several years in the army( he is a capable marksman in all stories with the character and adept in combat with a knife or his hands.) he endured years of neglect from his birth mother and years of abuse from his grandmother, he was bullied his whole childhood for his cleft palet to the point he can’t believe anyone but a blind woman could love him. While a ruthless and unrepentant murderer of men women and children ( also engaging in necrophilia with the women’s corpses) he is so moved by Reba showing him genuine love that he tried to stop killing. He failed but even after becoming enraged at her he refused to kill her and faked his own death.another interesting point of the character is that while no Hannibal, he is quite intelligent and eluded police for months, only slipping up when he tried ate a painting to stop killing.( he managed to get away from the building but that were the clues start working against him.) he even used his love of Reba to a strategic advantage, faking suicide so he could get revenge of Graham. Dolarhyde was cunning, a skilled fighter, and a surprisingly sympathetic man, who was turned into a monster through decades of cruelty.
Also one of the best interpretations of Dooku as this revolutionary with more too him is in the Republic comics.
Quinlan Vos almost fell due to a combination of Dooku’s skilled manipulation and genuine charisma.
We actually see how Dooku inspires fanatical loyalty amongst his supporters like Sora Bulq and Tol Skorr. Great story
Losing Sir Christopher Lee was a true loss for this world.
Sir Christopher Lee was notoriously perfectionistic and hard on himself, to the point where he pretty much died from workaholism. You can see that intense dedication in Dooku's character as well. Take away the evil and you have a lot of similarities.
Also, one has to hand it to Dooku, again. The level of control and precision necessary to control the Dark Side without falling fully into it is most high. His skill as a Force User is one again second only to Yoda and Sidious.
And even then he fought Yoda to a stalemate in lightsaber dueling, while Anakin killed him, and Windu, we never got to see duel him, but due to his ferocity, would’ve been more comparable to dueling Anakin than Obiwan, because Vaapad must allow oneself to enjoy the altercation, which is more borderline darkside than Obiwans style is.
Yeah, and that power and discipline were why Palpatine began manipulating him years before. He knew one day he'd make a good asset.
I wonder if Qui Gonn had any nice chats with Palps. How many bombs did the old men set, how many Jedi did he oh so subtly twist, until Anakin blew the roof off of the Jedi order?
RIP Christopher Lee.
One of a kind actor and a soldier in SAS WW2.
Can you do Analyzing evil Macaulay Culkin’s good son character
Lol. Even as a kid watching it I laughed when his mom dropped him off the cliff instead of Elijah Wood
Lol do you blame her lol
Good flick.
Bang! “YIIIIIPE!!”
“I only meant to scare him.”
I love the Sith, I love the villains of Star Wars, Maul, Vader, Palpatine and this is why I love star wars conflict between the jedi and the Sith, the light and dark thanks so much for making Analyzing Evil and these videos
I really appreciate how many sources you include in your analysis. It adds a lot of depth to your vids.
He wasn't so much dark as he was gray. He was the closest thing to Kreia or Revan in the Clone Wars timeline, playing both sides to his benefit.
Christopher Lee was one of the all time greats. He was one of the best things about the prequels.
3am squirrel brain moment, when Palpatine told Anakin to kill Dooku, did he use at least a little bit of Force manipulation to ensure Anakin obeyed him? Like, Anakin had done some horrible things (ie the Tusken massacre) and he was already on his way to the Dark Side, but he voiced his opposition to killing Dooku, and while it definitely seemed like he wanted to, he very much seemed like he wasn't going to until he did, at which he looked a little surprised and ashamed afterwards. You think maybe Palpatine either used a mind trick to convince him in the moment or telekinesis to force his arms? At this point, Anakin didn't know who he really was, so Anakin probably would have attributed it to nerves or something.
I’m loving this channel, glad I stumbled across this. The whole way you describe the characters are on point but you can learn so much from them & apply it to real life also 💯
Outstanding video. I can fast see myself becoming a starwars nerd by the time I've watched any media you've made related to starwars, I had no idea it was such a nuonced story. Excellent work
This makes me want to go through Clone Wars again. I know you haven't done a game character in a while, but I would enjoy hearing your perspective on Ridley from the Metroid franchise.
I've been looking forward to this
Director: "Imagine the sound a man would make whilst getting stabbed in the back..."
Christopher Lee:
"I don't have to imagine."
The way Lee delivers "I've been looking forward to this" is so satisfying
I always knew dooku was more interesting then he was allowed to be in the movies. Unfortunately, unlike Maul, I never cared enough to investigate further. Thanks for this. This may be a silly suggestion as I'm not sure there's enough information to warrant it, but perhaps an analyzing evil on Jareth from Labyrinth? Love your work. ✌
After Tales of the Jedi, this is gonna need some updating potentially in the future.
Great analysis as always. Also great idea for a channel, there is never a shortage of villains in cinema and media in general. Keep truckin
Very much enjoying the Star Wars theme this month. I enjoy all of your programming. Would very much like to see your take on Thanos
He was the living embodiment of the Jedi code: cold, uncaring, dogmatic, the charming sociopath the code demands.
I'm sure he would say he simply became a more efficient warrior.
Fascinating video. Well done, Mr. Tuvok.
Outstanding work! Love your videos.
Excellent analysis. I would have added "Dark Rendezvous" to the reading list. That is a prime ore for mining Dooku. And Yoda.