@@medicalmisinformation The Bible, and Torah would have been included in his exposition, including Historical, Political, and Cultural implications. Dr. Michael Heiser would have presented the events in a rich historical context with future trends based on Prophecy and uncommon evidence and/or documentation. Essentially, we would view this conflict in 3D- as a mostly complete lesson in a human and spiritual context. 📌Yet, the horrific pain of what is occurring is a given- no coherent and sane person can deny this- including Dr. Michael Heiser.
@@nereida116the Torah is in the Tanakh, the tanakh is the Old Testament of the Bible. Modern Pharisee Jews that are religious follow the tanakh and one of the later created “oral” torahs … usually they follow the Babylonian oral torah. The only person I’ve seen expand on oct 7th is Ken Johnson, it’s interesting what he’s found in the Dead Sea scrolls. Dr. Heiser wasn’t into eschatology but it would’ve still been interesting what comments he’d make.
@@nereida116Modern day Israel is just Canaan in disguise, these so called modern “Jews” are not the original Israelites from the Old Testament, they are more likely to be the descendants of the canaanites who the actual people of Israel drove out. They just disguise as “Jewish”, if they are of Israelite descent it’s of the people that went back to worshiping false gods and the followers of Baal, the people God warned Moses about. We as Christians are the actual Israelites, the actual Jews so to say. This modern day Israel is nothing more than the cloak under which modern day Babylon hides.
This man is a gem. Sad to hear he has left us. Happy he can now be with God whom he has served while on earth. I really get alot every time i hear him. He really helps me with my own journey.
Romans 3:10-12 “as it is written: “There is no righteous person, not even one; There is no one who understands, There is no one who seeks out God; They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, There is not even one.” Calvinism teaches that man has free will. But due to the fall man has lost its moral liberty and is in bondage to sin. In other words without the intercession of God without the blood of Christ it is impossible to be saved.
You can truly see the Holy spirit speaking through this man. Thank you Jesus for the gift of the spirit. I can't wait to get to Heaven. I'm excited to sit with my lord and just laugh together.
I made the same argument about "shall not take the name of the Lord in vain" years ago and got slapped down by a professor who was an ordained pastor. I wish this had been available back then!
He mentioned a second part do you or is anyone aware of the second part to this ? This is the most amazing exposition I've ever heard on some of the biggest stumbling blocks many have with the Christian faith and he gives answers to them all through a Biblical lense using the Bible in a complete yet complex but simple way. Amazing.
Now I feel better about myself, I have a PHD in life....I have friends who never married had children, or really mixed it up with life suffering....So they only have a GED in life.
So excited to listen to all the lectures in this series.... I love Tim Mackie & Jon Collins as well.... Anyone know of others whom have recorded sermons based on his work/subject matter?
🙏 children and children who respect worship and appreciate everything that God has given unto us not pray once or twice a day we should pray for any we meet who may need pray to thank our Lord and Savior not just once a blue moon everyday you get up and think of it's a beautiful day 🙏Ty God we are human and make mistakes But who is always there full of love who provides when our world falls apart? Yah God the most high and only true creator at least believe
Seek Holiness...Meditate on the Book of Matthew 7:21-23... seek/know our Father/Son/Holy Spirit & Father/Son/Holy Spirit knows me/you...be intentional/on purpose...priority of life...Heaven on Earth is Christ lives in me/you
Heiser has a book and a bit of it on u tube” What God want s” explaining TRUTH. Gospel .. not performance based … no condemnation ( took me years to really understand this concept) . Learned too much legalism . Bless
We WILL rebel again, Revelation 20:4. At the end of the Millennium, Satan is set free (20:7), great white throne judgment (20:11), Earth destroyed, the damned/rebellious thrown into the lake of fire (20: 14-15). The Righteous will live in eternity in the New Jerusalem and New Earth (Eden re-created).
@@joeashbubemma Isaiah 25:8, 1 Corinthians 15:54-55, Revelations 20:6. we will be completely transformed into a new nature, even as we die daily to our present old nature.
Mankind was already disobedient and ejected from Eden. We're already in a state of rebellion being separated from Eden/God/Heaven, how could mankind rebel more??
We will be given free will in Heaven as well. I reflect on this daily. The choice to leave when we get there. I don't think we will want to as at this time God will have revealed himself to us. Just remember some angels chose to leave. Free will is eternal gift.
So what does it mean for a comatose human to be an imager of God? One thing that seems to be important is that God created eachness in us, i.e. there are inherent differences among humans, i.e. this as well IS in the image of God.
" What God wanted on Earth" It's downright incredible how many human beings actually know what God wants. And yet - despite that knowledge - the physical earth is still screwed up with every imaginable evil. It's all seems pointless, eh?
...if there is a flop "there" because is not the trinity ...there is s flop in his theory because is very very very clear He said lets create in plural if that is not the trinity then whoever is there can also create which is unconsistent ,is false its a flop since there is just one creator
I don't agree with his idea of image bearing. I think the concept of our spirit bearing the image of God makes more sense than it being a role. No other creation including angels have a spirit like ours that can commune with God. The angels don't have that privilege they have to watch us to see how God interacts with us to get revelation about God. They can't commune with God in prayer, to know his heart personally. Our spirit has to be what is made in God's image for him to connect with us in such a intimate way. When we receive salvation the Holy Spirit inhabits our spirit. He isn't doing that with all the other "spirits" of creation so the breath of God being in everything with life is not an argument Heiser. Secondly on top of that this is verified as Christians are stated as the temple of the Spirit the salt of the earth. If that was not the case and all life is the breath of God in that it is also the presence of God that statement made of the Holy Spirit would make no sense. Third there is no relative issue, a spirit is intrinsic to all life of humans, there is no attribute issue. Also his statement about Genesis of let us make man in our image makes zero sense, for only God has creation power so only God is speaking it has nothing to do with angels. Angels are only present because when God destroyed the earth as judgment and made it formless and void he made the promise he would not make a full end to it. The angels are there to bare witness to God keeping his word. There was other stuff I had to say about the image bearing I thought about during the video but I forgot already.
What if God was just talking in third person or something? Like him saying “let us make man in our image “ well assuming the image he’s talking about is a physical body w a soul then , I think he’s talking to Jesus/himself. The image he’s making is like his own which is Jesus in the flesh, then Adam. That’s what I think
@@purplelover9633 I'm not sure what your message is supposed to be as a reply to my comment. I'm specifically pointing out Heisers take on this topic isn't a good one. I don't get how you are commenting on any of this? Of course God is talking in third person about himself all three members of the trinity, so what do you mean what if? Are you trying to say God isn't triune and is saying and is speaking in the formal plural sense of self? That would be nonsensical because the text would just say God made there would be no reason for God to make a personal statement of himself then, as we see for the rest of the creation/acts of God in Genesis he just does it he doesn't talk of himself to do it. So the context is established God must be addressing himself, why would he be explaining himself in such an odd way when he doesn't anywhere else there? Jesus came as the second Adam becoming incarnate. Adam came before the incarnate transformation of Jesus so I don't get how you are saying Adam was based on the incarnate Jesus the Word was not yet made flesh. So clearly the image of God is not based on physical flesh. It must be something else like the nature of God his Spirit nature. The image of God man is based on being a duty role Heiser is making up just is nonsensical.
I agree with most of what Heiser says, but with Eden the space would be too small for all the offspring of Adam and Eve. With the growth of their Family Eden would have expanded too until it fills the entire earth. But sooner or later one person had to give in the temptation and eat from that forbidden fruit. If we analyze the garden specific we can understand the the purpose of the Garden. It was an eternal solution for a problem that needs to be solved. Imagine no one so far had eaten from the fruit. No one ever that was born had to die. The earth hat a population of more than 100 Billion People. Satan would have figured out knew strategies to lead people into temptation and sin. The garden was a solution for the rebellious creature named Luzifer and he didn’t even understood it by himself. With successful tempting Eve Lucifer had spoken his own eternal condemnation. Satan hated humans because they were made in the image of god place above him in heaven and on earth. Thats why he went for the kill.
@@IAmALawyerToo I don't agree with his idea of image bearing and think he is totally off base. I think the concept of our spirit bearing the image of God makes more sense than it being a role. No other creation including angels have a spirit like ours that can commune with God. The angels don't have that privilege they have to watch us to see how God interacts with us to get revelation about God. They can't commune with God in prayer, to know his heart personally. Our spirit has to be what is made in God's image for him to connect with us in such a intimate way. When we receive salvation the Holy Spirit inhabits our spirit. He isn't doing that with all the other "spirits" of creation so the breath of God being in everything with life is not an argument Heiser. Secondly on top of that this is verified as Christians are stated as the temple of the Spirit the salt of the earth. If that was not the case and all life is the breath of God in that it is also the presence of God that statement made of the Holy Spirit would make no sense. Third there is no relative issue, a spirit is intrinsic to all life of humans, there is no attribute issue. Also his statement about Genesis of let us make man in our image makes zero sense, for only God has creation power so only God is speaking it has nothing to do with angels. Angels are only present because when God destroyed the earth as judgment and made it formless and void he made the promise he would not make a full end to it. The angels are there to bare witness to God keeping his word. There was other stuff I had to say about the image bearing I thought about during the video but I forgot already.
@@Kane.Griffin He explains it but it's a bad explanation and reason over our spirit being made in God's image from a biblical perspective. He is just a man it's only natural some of his teachings will have issues. He can't be an expert in understanding every aspect of the bible.
NOTICE WHAT JEHOVAH DID EDEN WAS HIS HOME HIS HOUSE, AND ADAM LIVED THERE WHILE GROWING IN KNOWLEDGE, THEN EVE MOVED IN AND BOTH WERE LEARNING LIFE ,THEN THE TWO AS KNOW IT ALL CHILDREN REBELLED AGAINST THE FATHER,. SO. FATHER SAID. OK OUT YOU GO FROM MY HOME ,SO THEY WERE CAST OUT. KICKED OUT NOW THEY HAD TO MAKE IT ON THEIR I KNEW IT ALL ATTITUDES, AFTER THEY BOTH KNEW. THEY WERE WRONG.AND SORRY
First of all he says there is no trinity and then says the second person in the trinity.......no matter how you say 3 persons in one you make God more than one God. The trinity was made and started by the philosopher tertullian and became a catholic doctrine. God reveals Himself in a three fold manner. It didnt make him ANOTHER god.
Here's a perfect example of a human explanation for something that we don't have the power to understand. Naaman had faith, albeit he was healed from it. Does God not say the wisdom of man is folly? John 8:58? Is it really hard to understand that God reveals his trinity to us through scripture? Is he not omniscience? The real kicker is going to be when you read rev. And see the verse about the 7 spirits of God.
@@Kane.Griffin It's nonsense. Let us make man in our image is clearly a trinity passage for only God has creation power. It's an abomination to presume created beings had any baring in creation as many passages in the bible attest to. Or the angels are made in God's image, that is not in the bible. Far less his assuming image just means role when our spirit being made in God's image makes biblically far more sense and his objection to that is nonsense.
The ten commandments of God, though there are clearly more than ten, can be divided into two parallel groups of five. The command to "not take the Lord's name in vain" is parallel to "do not steal". Thus it can be understood that becoming a representative of the name - nature, reputation - of God but not being like him means you are taking something that does not rightfully belong to you. If you proclaim that you are a "Christian" but in no way resemble Christ then you are a THIEF and should give back the name!
Heiser appears to change his definition of 'us' midstream. First 'us' is the mysterious 'heavenly host', then 'us' seems to flip back to the Holy Trinity in his conversation. This appears to be because there are two uses of the 'image', first in reference to 'us', and second in reference to 'He'. He weirdly fails to point out that women cannot become like Christ in the second sense, because they are female, and that would be an abomination, but apparently are being made in the image in the first sense. Heiser is mis-using 1 Jn 3:1-3, John is only talking to men, ...'And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies HIMSELF as he is pure.'
Isaiah 45:5-12 If you don't have faith the Bible is the word of God, you may always be lost to this understanding. I don't mean it as to scold. Do you not practice faith in things you do everyday? If you choose to have faith this may not be real have you tried the other?
so... god knew all that would happen here to us, but he wanted us for himself more than he wanted to prevent all this suffering, pain, illness, murder? I'm sorry but that sounds incredibly selfish to me.. ( so sad)...
That’s a pessimistic perspective. Is pain, suffering, illness, and murder the entirety of your existence??? If it is, then that is what is sad. Some of us expirence joy, happiness, exilliration, and love. It is the bad that exhalts the good and makes life worth living when we expirence happiness and love. It is why God gave us the way in which we should treat each other, so that the bad could be reduced and we could expirence the good, yet humanity largely ignores this and continues to suffer. The suffering is ours, which we choose, of our own freewill.
Imagine if Dr. Michael Heiser were on earth this past week - October 7th -15th... 2023💔 Wow.
What would have happened?
@@medicalmisinformation The Bible, and Torah would have been included in his exposition, including Historical, Political, and Cultural implications. Dr. Michael Heiser would have presented the events in a rich historical context with future trends based on Prophecy and uncommon evidence and/or documentation. Essentially, we would view this conflict in 3D- as a mostly complete lesson in a human and spiritual context.
📌Yet, the horrific pain of what is occurring is a given- no coherent and sane person can deny this- including Dr. Michael Heiser.
@@nereida116the Torah is in the Tanakh, the tanakh is the Old Testament of the Bible. Modern Pharisee Jews that are religious follow the tanakh and one of the later created “oral” torahs … usually they follow the Babylonian oral torah.
The only person I’ve seen expand on oct 7th is Ken Johnson, it’s interesting what he’s found in the Dead Sea scrolls. Dr. Heiser wasn’t into eschatology but it would’ve still been interesting what comments he’d make.
@@nereida116Modern day Israel is just Canaan in disguise, these so called modern “Jews” are not the original Israelites from the Old Testament, they are more likely to be the descendants of the canaanites who the actual people of Israel drove out. They just disguise as “Jewish”, if they are of Israelite descent it’s of the people that went back to worshiping false gods and the followers of Baal, the people God warned Moses about. We as Christians are the actual Israelites, the actual Jews so to say. This modern day Israel is nothing more than the cloak under which modern day Babylon hides.
Thank u for posting Heisers teachings! Blessings to all
Powerful message. I miss you Dr. Heiser
Every time I watch this it blows my mind
All the suffering and pain in my life makes me appreciate what I have. All Praise and Glory to Jesus and his heavenly Father.
This man is a gem. Sad to hear he has left us. Happy he can now be with God whom he has served while on earth. I really get alot every time i hear him. He really helps me with my own journey.
What a blessed man Dr Heiser is... Now He's in the unseen realm under the presence of God❤
"Free will is essential to being made in the image of God (the Ultimate Sovereign)."
Mike-drop to Calvinism! 🥺
Free will isn't incompatible with election? Otherwise, why would God do what He did on the cross- He's overriding our choice to betray Him.
Sovereignty screams God's perogative over human volition.
@@ThembaMaselane
The word sovereignty is NOT in the KJV of the Bible!
No scream
No sound (except mike drop). 😁
Interesting, Dr Mike laments the neglecting of the Dead Sea scrolls and proclaims the sovereignty of God undergirding his every argument.
Romans 3:10-12 “as it is written: “There is no righteous person, not even one; There is no one who understands, There is no one who seeks out God; They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, There is not even one.”
Calvinism teaches that man has free will. But due to the fall man has lost its moral liberty and is in bondage to sin. In other words without the intercession of God without the blood of Christ it is impossible to be saved.
He is sorely missed
You can truly see the Holy spirit speaking through this man. Thank you Jesus for the gift of the spirit.
I can't wait to get to Heaven. I'm excited to sit with my lord and just laugh together.
So good I have 3 pages of notes for my study Bible!!! ❤🙏🏻❣️
He really explains all this very well.
"This Is A Day The Lord Has Made REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT"! THANK YOU YHWH FOR Dr. Michael Heiser! SHALOM!
OUR LORD JESUS says HIS yoke is easy and the burden is light
Good explanation of fore knowledge and pre destination
I made the same argument about "shall not take the name of the Lord in vain" years ago and got slapped down by a professor who was an ordained pastor. I wish this had been available back then!
And 3 months later it's getting even creepier. Our salvation is Jesus Christ. The only path to heaven.
A word which is often misused, but not in this case, is awesome.
Really enjoy this kind of content
He mentioned a second part do you or is anyone aware of the second part to this ? This is the most amazing exposition I've ever heard on some of the biggest stumbling blocks many have with the Christian faith and he gives answers to them all through a Biblical lense using the Bible in a complete yet complex but simple way. Amazing.
What does God want? Is a remarkable overview of the entire Bible and the Gospel ("Good News") Check is out in print after viewing this helpful video
Now I feel better about myself, I have a PHD in life....I have friends who never married had children, or really mixed it up with life suffering....So they only have a GED in life.
So excited to listen to all the lectures in this series.... I love Tim Mackie & Jon Collins as well.... Anyone know of others whom have recorded sermons based on his work/subject matter?
🙏 children and children who respect worship and appreciate everything that God has given unto us not pray once or twice a day we should pray for any we meet who may need pray to thank our Lord and Savior not just once a blue moon everyday you get up and think of it's a beautiful day 🙏Ty God we are human and make mistakes But who is always there full of love who provides when our world falls apart? Yah God the most high and only true creator at least believe
Seek Holiness...Meditate on the Book of Matthew 7:21-23... seek/know our Father/Son/Holy Spirit & Father/Son/Holy Spirit knows me/you...be intentional/on purpose...priority of life...Heaven on Earth is Christ lives in me/you
Thanks doc, for helping me find my way back.
Heiser has a book and a bit of it on u tube” What God want s” explaining TRUTH. Gospel .. not performance based … no condemnation ( took me years to really understand this concept) . Learned too much legalism . Bless
I want to go fishing could anyone give me directions to lake Tiberius?
Yes
What's to stop man from rebelling again. Since we are not perfect.
We WILL rebel again, Revelation 20:4. At the end of the Millennium, Satan is set free (20:7), great white throne judgment (20:11), Earth destroyed, the damned/rebellious thrown into the lake of fire (20: 14-15). The Righteous will live in eternity in the New Jerusalem and New Earth (Eden re-created).
@loveistruth 5*7*, Isaiah 25:8, 1 Corinthians 15:54-55, Revelations 20:6
We will be completely be transformed beyond our present nature.
@@joeashbubemma Isaiah 25:8, 1 Corinthians 15:54-55, Revelations 20:6.
we will be completely transformed into a new nature, even as we die daily to our present old nature.
Mankind was already disobedient and ejected from Eden. We're already in a state of rebellion being separated from Eden/God/Heaven, how could mankind rebel more??
We will be given free will in Heaven as well. I reflect on this daily. The choice to leave when we get there. I don't think we will want to as at this time God will have revealed himself to us. Just remember some angels chose to leave. Free will is eternal gift.
I get more negative push back on Heiser from Baptist, Non Denoms and Catholics then anyone else.
I have a pug too. There is absolutely nothing like a pug. I can tell you one thing, that pug has you perfectly under control.
If you think God "wants", you're in an ego, your God is your ego.
So you don’t think God “wants” you to honor him? “Wants” you to worship Him? “Wants” you to tell the world about Him?
So what does it mean for a comatose human to be an imager of God? One thing that seems to be important is that God created eachness in us, i.e. there are inherent differences among humans, i.e. this as well IS in the image of God.
" What God wanted on Earth"
It's downright incredible how many human beings actually know what God wants. And yet - despite that knowledge - the physical earth is still screwed up with every imaginable evil. It's all seems pointless, eh?
...if there is a flop "there" because is not the trinity ...there is s flop in his theory because is very very very clear He said lets create in plural if that is not the trinity then whoever is there can also create which is unconsistent ,is false its a flop since there is just one creator
I don't agree with his idea of image bearing. I think the concept of our spirit bearing the image of God makes more sense than it being a role. No other creation including angels have a spirit like ours that can commune with God. The angels don't have that privilege they have to watch us to see how God interacts with us to get revelation about God. They can't commune with God in prayer, to know his heart personally. Our spirit has to be what is made in God's image for him to connect with us in such a intimate way. When we receive salvation the Holy Spirit inhabits our spirit. He isn't doing that with all the other "spirits" of creation so the breath of God being in everything with life is not an argument Heiser. Secondly on top of that this is verified as Christians are stated as the temple of the Spirit the salt of the earth. If that was not the case and all life is the breath of God in that it is also the presence of God that statement made of the Holy Spirit would make no sense. Third there is no relative issue, a spirit is intrinsic to all life of humans, there is no attribute issue. Also his statement about Genesis of let us make man in our image makes zero sense, for only God has creation power so only God is speaking it has nothing to do with angels. Angels are only present because when God destroyed the earth as judgment and made it formless and void he made the promise he would not make a full end to it. The angels are there to bare witness to God keeping his word. There was other stuff I had to say about the image bearing I thought about during the video but I forgot already.
What if God was just talking in third person or something? Like him saying “let us make man in our image “ well assuming the image he’s talking about is a physical body w a soul then , I think he’s talking to Jesus/himself. The image he’s making is like his own which is Jesus in the flesh, then Adam. That’s what I think
@@purplelover9633 I'm not sure what your message is supposed to be as a reply to my comment. I'm specifically pointing out Heisers take on this topic isn't a good one. I don't get how you are commenting on any of this? Of course God is talking in third person about himself all three members of the trinity, so what do you mean what if? Are you trying to say God isn't triune and is saying and is speaking in the formal plural sense of self? That would be nonsensical because the text would just say God made there would be no reason for God to make a personal statement of himself then, as we see for the rest of the creation/acts of God in Genesis he just does it he doesn't talk of himself to do it. So the context is established God must be addressing himself, why would he be explaining himself in such an odd way when he doesn't anywhere else there?
Jesus came as the second Adam becoming incarnate. Adam came before the incarnate transformation of Jesus so I don't get how you are saying Adam was based on the incarnate Jesus the Word was not yet made flesh. So clearly the image of God is not based on physical flesh. It must be something else like the nature of God his Spirit nature. The image of God man is based on being a duty role Heiser is making up just is nonsensical.
I agree with most of what Heiser says, but with Eden the space would be too small for all the offspring of Adam and Eve. With the growth of their Family Eden would have expanded too until it fills the entire earth. But sooner or later one person had to give in the temptation and eat from that forbidden fruit. If we analyze the garden specific we can understand the the purpose of the Garden. It was an eternal solution for a problem that needs to be solved. Imagine no one so far had eaten from the fruit. No one ever that was born had to die. The earth hat a population of more than 100 Billion People. Satan would have figured out knew strategies to lead people into temptation and sin. The garden was a solution for the rebellious creature named Luzifer and he didn’t even understood it by himself. With successful tempting Eve Lucifer had spoken his own eternal condemnation. Satan hated humans because they were made in the image of god place above him in heaven and on earth. Thats why he went for the kill.
Listen again, closely!
If we are made in the image and likeness of God, and yet you say God is not like Us, isn't that a contradiction?
His books & other lectures address the meaning of “image”
You must not of listened to the whole video. He explains this halfway through.
@@IAmALawyerToo I don't agree with his idea of image bearing and think he is totally off base. I think the concept of our spirit bearing the image of God makes more sense than it being a role. No other creation including angels have a spirit like ours that can commune with God. The angels don't have that privilege they have to watch us to see how God interacts with us to get revelation about God. They can't commune with God in prayer, to know his heart personally. Our spirit has to be what is made in God's image for him to connect with us in such a intimate way. When we receive salvation the Holy Spirit inhabits our spirit. He isn't doing that with all the other "spirits" of creation so the breath of God being in everything with life is not an argument Heiser. Secondly on top of that this is verified as Christians are stated as the temple of the Spirit the salt of the earth. If that was not the case and all life is the breath of God in that it is also the presence of God that statement made of the Holy Spirit would make no sense. Third there is no relative issue, a spirit is intrinsic to all life of humans, there is no attribute issue. Also his statement about Genesis of let us make man in our image makes zero sense, for only God has creation power so only God is speaking it has nothing to do with angels. Angels are only present because when God destroyed the earth as judgment and made it formless and void he made the promise he would not make a full end to it. The angels are there to bare witness to God keeping his word. There was other stuff I had to say about the image bearing I thought about during the video but I forgot already.
@@Kane.Griffin He explains it but it's a bad explanation and reason over our spirit being made in God's image from a biblical perspective. He is just a man it's only natural some of his teachings will have issues. He can't be an expert in understanding every aspect of the bible.
NOTICE WHAT JEHOVAH DID EDEN WAS HIS HOME HIS HOUSE, AND ADAM LIVED THERE WHILE GROWING IN KNOWLEDGE, THEN EVE MOVED IN AND BOTH WERE LEARNING LIFE ,THEN THE TWO AS KNOW IT ALL CHILDREN REBELLED AGAINST THE FATHER,. SO. FATHER SAID. OK OUT YOU GO FROM MY HOME ,SO THEY WERE CAST OUT. KICKED OUT NOW THEY HAD TO MAKE IT ON THEIR I KNEW IT ALL ATTITUDES, AFTER THEY BOTH KNEW. THEY WERE WRONG.AND SORRY
First of all he says there is no trinity and then says the second person in the trinity.......no matter how you say 3 persons in one you make God more than one God. The trinity was made and started by the philosopher tertullian and became a catholic doctrine. God reveals Himself in a three fold manner. It didnt make him ANOTHER god.
Here's a perfect example of a human explanation for something that we don't have the power to understand. Naaman had faith, albeit he was healed from it.
Does God not say the wisdom of man is folly? John 8:58?
Is it really hard to understand that God reveals his trinity to us through scripture? Is he not omniscience? The real kicker is going to be when you read rev. And see the verse about the 7 spirits of God.
@@Kane.Griffin It's nonsense. Let us make man in our image is clearly a trinity passage for only God has creation power. It's an abomination to presume created beings had any baring in creation as many passages in the bible attest to. Or the angels are made in God's image, that is not in the bible. Far less his assuming image just means role when our spirit being made in God's image makes biblically far more sense and his objection to that is nonsense.
The ten commandments of God, though there are clearly more than ten, can be divided into two parallel groups of five. The command to "not take the Lord's name in vain" is parallel to "do not steal". Thus it can be understood that becoming a representative of the name - nature, reputation - of God but not being like him means you are taking something that does not rightfully belong to you.
If you proclaim that you are a "Christian" but in no way resemble Christ then you are a THIEF and should give back the name!
Heiser appears to change his definition of 'us' midstream. First 'us' is the mysterious 'heavenly host', then 'us' seems to flip back to the Holy Trinity in his conversation. This appears to be because there are two uses of the 'image', first in reference to 'us', and second in reference to 'He'. He weirdly fails to point out that women cannot become like Christ in the second sense, because they are female, and that would be an abomination, but apparently are being made in the image in the first sense. Heiser is mis-using 1 Jn 3:1-3, John is only talking to men, ...'And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies HIMSELF as he is pure.'
How do we really know that yahweh is the top dog in the whole universe, how and why would he pick humans to make such a big deal?
Isaiah 45:5-12
If you don't have faith the Bible is the word of God, you may always be lost to this understanding. I don't mean it as to scold. Do you not practice faith in things you do everyday? If you choose to have faith this may not be real have you tried the other?
so... god knew all that would happen here to us, but he wanted us for himself more than he wanted to prevent all this suffering, pain, illness, murder? I'm sorry but that sounds incredibly selfish to me.. ( so sad)...
That’s a pessimistic perspective.
Is pain, suffering, illness, and murder the entirety of your existence???
If it is, then that is what is sad.
Some of us expirence joy, happiness, exilliration, and love.
It is the bad that exhalts the good and makes life worth living when we expirence happiness and love.
It is why God gave us the way in which we should treat each other, so that the bad could be reduced and we could expirence the good, yet humanity largely ignores this and continues to suffer.
The suffering is ours, which we choose, of our own freewill.
You don't need a degree to do what Mike did.
Eden was inside the pyramids
Reference please
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He has none (obviously...)
I don't know about that
No the great pyramid was made by enoch
Powerful message. I miss you Dr. Heiser
Powerful message. I miss you Dr. Heiser