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Music Production - Brendan O'Brien Music Production Techniques Explained
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2016
- In this episode we will explore the sounds and techniques of Brendan O'Brien's music production and mixing. Detailed analysis of his recording and mixing techniques as well as drum miking tips. I have included many audio examples to demonstrate thesis techniques. If you want an expanded video and Pro Tools session, check out my Patreon page for details.
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When you hear the isolated tracks you really understand how great the playing of all the instruments is.
King's X ... WHAT A BAND ! support from Italy 🇮🇹
For me one of his best works is Mastodon's Crack The Skye , the mixing and production is unreal its ear candy so many layers perfectly balanced.
that King's X album really caught my ear, must check that out, excellent lecture Rick...I love your Studio Techniques series...more, more, more !
King's X - Dogman is an INCREDIBLE sounding record.
Rick! Please keep up these “Producer Mixing Techniques”. I am gobbling them up like CANDY. Fucking INSANE: I have so many things I will try, simply because you mentioned them. You are providing a HUGE service to serious people abroad. Once again, Holy Fuck, and Thank You.
I love how you show how compressed some of these tracks are. I'm always afraid of over compressing due to the advice of so many people online. I understand that dynamics are important but it seems despite a lot of the advice a lot of the pros are really heavy on compressing. Guess there is a fine line between over compression and just right.
Just don't listen to anyone on gearslutz. 90% amateurs who are only acting experienced
Tape gives natural compression and these were all recorded to tape, then interfaced. You gotta remember the old guys (Bruce Swedien) who said "compression is for kids" were recording to tape and playing back from tape.
Kings X the best recording.. So tight. A album I never get tired of hearing
He really knows what sounds belongs to each band.. Amazing
Dogman, absolutly a masterpiece of the 90's, still on my top 5 all time best records, Blood sugar is too, Superunknown too.. Well, Brendan worked on all of these...:)
Thank you so much, Rick. I love his work with Matthew Sweet and Michael Penn in particular. Thank you also for mentioning Nick DiDia. Stunning sound from a stunning recording team!
It's really good to hear King's X getting some love. Great video!
His work with MASTODON...wowsers. Magic.
Very insightful! Explaining a lot of the sound of some of the albums I have listened to all my life. Thank you very much!
It's amazing to see the continuity of these engineer's sounds in the side by side comparisons. Great vids.
I saw Brendan O’Brien and knew I’d be listening to some immaculately produced roomy drum sounds. Just such an amazing balance of ambience and punch/definition. He had broad stylistic chops for the genre too. Listen to STP’s “Purple” (really slick, wide, sounds expensive) and then listen to “Tiny Music” (low-fi, vintage, boxy sounds and roomy sounds). They are so different and both amazing sounding records. His production was the sound of my youth. Most of my favorite teenage records (the first CD I bought) were his records. Amazing musicians too, just a special time
my favorite brendan track has to be big empty by the stone temple pilots...killer range of drum sounds...big and open during the verses, tight and huge for the chorus, ambient for the break...that song is a masterclass in 90's songwriting and production
manifestgtr Eric Kretz spoke about how they actually recorded 2 different kits for that track as well! Crusty vintage Ludwig for the intimate verses and his GMS maples for the rockin' choruses! 🤘
Dogman is such a Killer Album!!
Love Dogman. King's X is one of the best bands of the last 35 years. I'm glad they did a record with Brenden O'Brien to get this sound once. I wish you would feature King's X in a video(s). They have done some unique things and have a unique sound. Always love all of your videos.
Mr. Beato - this was again a brilliant dissection of the the work of this giant. Brendan is one of my personal favorite top producers and audio engineers - several years ago "Black The Sky" from "Dogman" was my "go to" referent track for rock productions ...and the whole album...drums, bass, guitars...vocals - everything there is killing me every time. The idea with the Y cable for the toms was a killer one - I will definitely try to find information how to make myself several of these and use them on my next production...Regards!
Thanks Konstantin!
At 16:40 you concisely explain why O'Brien is the best producer of the past 20+years. I love breaking down his songs and learning from him. "Murderer of Blue Skies" is THE textbook on how to build a song with a simple acoustic guitar and carefully build and layer until it rocks like mad. Great channel.
Producion techniques and habits of Nigel Godrich!
would be awesome
Great video! I recorded with a band project (as drummer) at Southern Tracks with Brendan's setup in the 90's and your walk through brings back some great memories. Don't even get me started on how brilliant Kings X was! (everyone go listen to "Dogman" and the previous 3 records right now!:^) Thank you for putting this together.
Who were you playing with?
Hi Watchaman4u -Lunafish.
Jonathan Cazenave Seems like I've heard that name have you played Athens or Metro Atl?
Man, when that Phat Chad Smith groove started. It was so good I actually just sat here laughing.
Thats so amazing! You actually opened original sessions of RHCP that sick. Thanks for sharing Rick!
First time hearing of Kings x. Wow it’s good
Love love how he pauses during Kings X!
Brendan could be my favorite producer, STP, Soundgarden, Incubus, etc, the organic and punchy sound in every record he is in, i love it!
Honestly don't even think I noticed the organ part in the Give it Away track all these years, really fascinating what you can discover in these videos, thanks again.
I know it's really hidden in there but very effective. Thanks Owen!
So I used this in my recent drum mic up, and I got the best snare sound I have ever achieved. Brilliant this. Thanks Rick Beato.
Rick, you remain one of the very best for informing upcoming producers on how things work! I always learn so much from you!
Hi Rickcan you do a mixing technique vid on Joe Barresi?he's mixed some pretty cool bands in modern rock.Tool, Queens Of The Stone Age, Melvins, Soundgarden, Rancid, Monster Magnet, Fu Manchu, Bad Religion, Hole, and many more!such a great sound for modern rock!
Rick, could you do one of these videos explaining the differences Brendan used on No Code/Yield compared to Backspacer/Lightening Bolt? No Code and Yield have such an amazing, timeless sound while the two latest are crisp and clear, but don't have the same atmosphere. What was done differently? Thanks!
yield is one of my favorites!! Great album, my favorite from them.
I’m still waiting this reply for so long, No Code is my favorite album mixed by Brendan O’Brien
What I notice in all his mixes is the guitars are thin and kind of off to the side, which makes you focus more on the bass and drums. This emphasizes the rhythm and avoids the guitar dominating the other instruments
There’s a making of bssm documentary on CZcams and you can see 421:s on toms so the all 57’s is obviously just a story. Thanks for all the great videos Mr. Beato!!
Rick these videos are great, helps me as a musician understand how my engineer approaches the recording process and gives me the chance to consider this while writing for the studio. Thanks so much for the geek sessions!
This video is insightful to the parts of production no one realises but we all feel.
It's allowed us to see the magic of you who work behind the scenes but are actually more of the sound that most understand.
Also, this is you doing what you preach, giving back the knowledge you've learned for us to take and make our own.
Love it.
Thanks so much for all the videos you've put together. You've helped me improve as an audio engineer tremendously! Please don't ever stop making these!
If I remember correctly, STP’s Vaseline was recorded with the drums setup outside in a field to get an extremely dry live track. So wondering if the reverb/room sounds were added later during mixing with a reverb chamber or with the use of a plate.
I think that may have been the Tiny Music album.
Love that you included She's On Fire 🙌 One of my favourite Train songs from that era, always thought Brendan's production and mix sounded incredible!
hi rick -that y-splitter on the toms. i was a live sound engineer in the late '70's in australia and we used that very technique. i got the idea from an old school audio technician who originated from the very early days of live sound reinforcement @ late 1960's.
The snare of Bredan is awesome. The 57's blows my mind.
His latest interview and then going back to this is interesting and confirms this analysis. Brendan paid homage to Zeppelin and his favorites in his production and mixes. He found things that worked, that were proven and didn't seem to overthink things. Some of the best records of the 90s and since.
Cool video! I remember being very young and noticing Brendan’s name on SO many of the albums I bought. Also Wallace and Date.
Kings X is one of the most underrated bands of all time.
Incubus is my favorite band and they're very underrated, especially their rhythm section in their first albums
Aavila120 seriously you’re favourite band?! Wow, okay.
Eric Kretz is underrated.
Truth
Matt Markus yeah mannnn 100%
Ghost notes are a lost art. He's the king of them
Your CZcams channel is indispensable, thank you!
I would love to see one of these on Ross Robinson... Just found your channel and it's amazing definitely a wealth of information thank you for sharing.
When I was in high school I had a fake ID so I could go see Brendan play guitar in his band "Pranks" in Underground Atlanta. Everybody thought Brendan would eventually become a big rock star one day. Many years later I found out that Brendan was actually a year younger than I was so I guess that means he had a fake ID too ! - Oh and the drinking age was only 18 back then.
King's X!!!!! Hell yeah! Brendan O'Brien produced "Dogman" (one of my favorite albums). I still prefer their earlier stuff though because their earlier albums had these huge epic masterpieces of rock like "Pleiades", "Out of the Silent Planet", "In the New Age" & "Faith Hope Love". I'd love to see you do a King's X video even though they're not one of the most well known rock bands, I feel they're very underrated and I'm still confused about why they're not bigger than Metallica. According to Jeff Ament of Pearl Jam - King's X invented grunge. I'm not even sure what he meant by that because I've never seen them as a grunge band.
Love all your videos man! I'm learning SO MUCH!
one snare sound to rule them all :)
Brendan's work with Stone Temple Pilots is a masterpiece!
Love your videos Rick- thank you for posting these and putting in all the time and effort.
Really enjoyed that Rick. There's another great example of Brendon's snare magic on pearl jams " not for you ".
The snare sounds great from the very beginning but when the vocals kick in it's like he ups the room mic or increases the verb and it just gets huge!
I love piccolo snares too. Alot. More than most things in life.
Apan Apandottír do u know exactly what snare Brendan uses?
I saw a special on MTV way back in the day about the making of STP's Tiny Music... and they were recording the drums outside on the lawn. I don't know if it was just for the cameras, but there goes the "room" factor.
LEGIT
Awesome video about King Midas
Need part 2 please!
Always admired Brendan's guitar production, Rick. Very '90s, yes, but THE signature guitar sound of the '90s.
U r so right about Brendan talent. His plays every instrument by ear and he has so mucjh talent. Most talented producer of our age.
Wow, it's been over 3 years since I first watched this? It was still informative in new ways this time (especially the variation in kick drum sounds and the wonderful absence of drum samples) and I'd upvote again if it was possible.
I thought you might've mentioned Mastodon in the beginning of the video. They recently got together again with Brendan for the newest album set for a 2017 Spring release.
They are from Atlanta as well right?
As much as I love Matt Bayles' work with them, Brendan brought a very nice change of pace with Crack the Skye that fit really well with the material on the album. They went from a tight, almost claustrophobic production to an expansiveness that I always associated with Brendan.
How does Rick come about those Multitracks..!?!? Would be KILLER to have Multitracks of some of the best Recordings in history...! SOOOO much to learn from them..
Know these are old now, but I'm almost entirely self taught when it comes to production, so love this stuff. Thanks.
He's the engineer on My Private Nation by Train , mad mad production sonics and writing and arrangement on it !!!!!!
This art of record making is lost , havent heard an album like that ever since !
Caught that the snare tone is almost identical from track to track....interesting
Same tuning from record to record. The higher pitched snare helps it cut through these dense mixes
Rick Beato hi Rick how are you getting these multi tracks, I would love to learn from them. ? Please help me 😯
Rick Beato does anyone know the brand and make of that snare?
@@chrisdover8507 I know it's a bit late, but I hope I can still help you, mate. It's different snares. Snares are easy to tune in relation to other drums. Really crank up the resonant head till it's tight af and then adjust the batter head for a good sound and rebound. It should also be fairly tight for this sound.
This awesome snare sound comes from both piccolo snares and normal sized snares. But they should be deep.
I recommend something like a 12 × 7 or 12 × 8 if you only want to play music like this or just use a 14 × 7 or 14 × 8 for a greater variety of possible sounds. I play a rock-solid Sonor 14 × 8 snare and it sounds pretty much like the snares in this video. The important thing is really that the drum is not shallow. Both wood and metal snare drums sound awesome.
Good work man. Very insightful and educational.
Fantastic video, really enjoyed this. Thanks Rick for putting these together. Learning so much from this channel.
thank you sir for the super detail explaination.the best ever.
Brendan recently produced the new Prophets of Rage album as well. The production of that is also stellar!
Hello Rick! A pleasure to watch.
Those drum sounds really have that old school Smack comp verb plugin from pro tools. It had that type of "grit" sound.
Amazing! Thank you, Rick!
Thanks Rick for sharing your talent, skill, and knowledge. Really enjoyed this awesome presentation.
I like how you break music philosophies and sound down. Great stuff.
Again. Wish you were my teacher when I was in production school.
Rick this is so so enlightening. Thank you!
This video is gold! Thank you! Brendan is my favorite producer. Cheers!
Dean DeLeo of STP claimed that O'Brien really produced Blood Sugar.
Rubin doesn't really produce, he just shows up once a week to offer his thoughts on the recordings and then help himself to the credit.
If you listen to Funky Monks, you can hear Brendan producing at various points. They definitely co-produced Blood Sugar. Production means different things and I've always thought it is lame that Rick took full credit for production and half of the mixing credit. Brendan clearly mixed it.
The peppers should have stuck with Brendan behind the board. That was their best sounding record IMO.
@@jeanlejeune2288 agreed
@@Fonkemman yup
@@jeanlejeune2288 Uplift mofo party plan was their best sounding album.
Love his work so much.. man that peppers sound! one of my favorite overall rock sounds
I really appreciate you so much for these videos Rick. Keep rocking
Most talented man in music I have ever met. He is for real.
Awesome analysis! Big O'Brien fan. Southern Tracks as well. You are nailing this stuff! Kudos!
one of the best videos i've ever seen! rick you're the man!
Hi Rick,
Love everything you do, you’re an amazing walking Encyclopedia of everything musical and beyond!
Hey, just one production thought for you (and I don’t notice it so much on this video but on others I do) ...
when you play musical examples can they go direct (instead of catching it through the camera mic)?
For balance between your voice and the examples, and also just general quality so we can really hear what you’re trying to teach us.
Thank you, Steve
Just discovered these! Great stuff!
Thanks Nameless!
great stuff rick! Brendan is my favorite producer and i periodically come back to check out your analysis! and let's not forget another awesome record he mixed, aerosmith's get a grip, monster sounds!
You should do an episode on Teo Macero! These are fascinating. Thankyou for making such high quality informative videos!
This is gold!! More of these plz!!
lots of good info here. Thank you
Hey Rick, just subscribed. I've been watching you a while now but didn't realize I wasn't subscribed. Thanks for everything you do. Love the way you break things down. I have learned a lot from you!! Thank you again!!
Great video Rick, thanks for your insights! I always loved the sound of BSSM, its nice to hear someone break it down. Keep up the great work!
Love this video!! Hope you keep doing these "Techniques Explained" vids. I also love your "What Makes This Song Great . . . " series. And your life story vids that tell about the hard work it took to get where you are today. I also like that you are honest about (and extensively explain in your other vids) "compression" because the producers themselves won't admit to it in their interviews and vids!!!!!!
Actually, everything of yours that I've watched on CZcams is great and I hope you keep making all kinds of vids because you are so good at them! People don't know how hard it is to teach (especially in today's world of shorter attention spans) and you have much talent. If I had kids, I'd watch more of your instructions videos - I also told my sister about your vids because my nephews are just getting to the age where they are learning to sing and they love your videos with Dylan. Don't ever lose your passion!
Can you do a production style of Jerry Finn. The mans a legend and wo hi old love to see what you would do with his work! Love the content!
Most talented man in music. He can play any instrument by ear. I don’t think people know this about brendan. My cousin is very talented. He deserves more credit than he gets. Awesome and sooooo talented.
I only recently came across your channel and I've been pouring through SO many of your videos, they are immensely helpful and informative. I'm not sure if you take requests related to these types of videos, but if you were to do a video with production tips like this for either Butch Vig or Nigel Godrich it'd make my year! Regardless, thanks so much for these videos, I'm loving them!
I'm enjoying the fact that you've got a G5 still running in the background there. Mine's still going strong as well.
I like the work from Brendan O Brien what he did with AC/DC.
You absolutely rock for doing this!
Where does one acquire those multitrack sessions? Especially the one for Stp!
Thank you for your hard work on this!
I'd also would like to know where he got those files...
If I had to guess, they're archival copies - there are no plugins inserted anywhere. And, he probably has contacts in those kinds of echelons.
Incredible recording lesson Rick . Thanku
Great video analysis of a great producer and mix engineer.