Learn The Evolution of Gymnastics: Uneven Bars Developments
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2017
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Is it just me or were the older routines more exciting? Feels like there was more variety and more saltos too. These days they seem to spend more time swinging round and around. Am I wrong? Great video.
Sophie Anjuli No, I like the older routines better too. To me they were more unique.
That is because now they have banned a lot of skills for safety reasons
I definitely agree that the older routines are way more exciting and interesting to watch, particularly in the 70's and 80's. However, I can see why certain skills may have been banned for safety reasons. But damn! are they exciting to watch!
Probably because a lot of the older routines are banded because of safety issues
the bars are farther apart now making some moves impossible
**camera quality increases**
It looked painful when they were whacking their hip on the bars. XD
I think that was one of the reasons why they changed the uneven bars... the moves they did could damage the women's internal organs...
Yeah. I would imagine so.
Well, it is still painful. The area of your hips is probably the one of the most damaged (in my opinion) when you are on uneven bars. The bars and your hands because even with the especial thing we use (its a kind of gloves?, i dont know how to describe it, neither the name)😂, it still hurts a lot. Also your feets get hurted a lot.
All elements, even if time have passed and it improved, are still painful and really hard to execute.
I think UB is probably the most harder and painful element of artistics gymnastic (like really, i have a lot of marks in my hips)
(sorry for my bad english♡)
But that just my opinion in what i have seen/practiced
I’ve actually heard that they wouldn’t hit their hips but actually the part just below it with more “meat”
While I prefer the look of the older routines, I definitely think they made the right move by making the bars farther apart. Not only were the old routines very bad for the gymnast’s bodies, moving them apart led to so much progression in the sport that wouldn’t have been possible with the bars so close together.
*I agree*
Yeah I agree with you. Also, the routines would have never progressed from the 50s and 60s.
??? Where is this idea coming from? The older style routines were not "very bad for gymnast's bodies". What does that even mean? What gave you this idea? What competitive gymnast do you know who suffered anything more than what gymnasts currently do? Yes, we got rips. But, moving the bars further apart would only fuel that problem, not solve it (as it's caused by friction and the current style causes faster moving routines, thus, greater friction on your hands from the bars, thus, a HIGHER frequency of rips not lower).
I am curious to know why you are spreading these rumors. Have you ever considered finding out the truth of a matter before stating your opinion as if it were fact.
The reason the bars were moved further apart is that it made doing giant-work (the big swing around the bar in a handstand position and associated skills) much easier. Then it was decided that fans wanted more swing and bigger release moves (not very safe for your body) like the Men's High Bar; so, they made the move to the permanent wide bar setting. They also liked this because changing the bars for each gymnast took up a lot of time. Now no wait for a bar setting and no noisy adjustment of the bars between routines.
Is this safer? No, it's just different. It also makes for monotonous routines of Giants with a few pirouettes and high bar release moves. We rarely see multiple transitions from one bar to the other anymore, bc that takes an extraordinary amount of strength, energy, and endurance.
@@ds.nedsong ooooohhhh we've got some tea I see
I don't think the 'progression' was needed. It's just in imitations of men's High bar with a lower bar for decoration. The older bars were so much better, exciting and interesting, and had its own artistic element lost when they increased the space between the bars. Like someone else mentioned I don't think the women experiences any health issues from the belly bouncers. Honestly the routines and releases now are a lot more dangerous that previously, upon reading about it. Most gymnasts from the 70s say it didn't hurt at all and it was fun to do, the bar just had to be placed on right setting for their height and the skill had to be done correctly. Now that bars aren't adjusted for the gymnasts individually anymore the bars just got further apart for the sake of ease not safety. The low bar may as well be removed.
(edit typo)
3021: we have now moved the bars 50 feet away from eachother
Next they'll have relay races between the 2 bars! Tag in the next gymnast.
Bold of you to assume that humans will still be around in 3021
The high one at 50m above the floor and the lower one at 30cm
it has a whole other meaning now 😂😭
...and the Chinese are still putting honey on them.
My goodness. That's why a lot of those girls have died from injures they can't recover from. Because the coaches shove the beauty, elegance and art aside and started to try those killing skills. Elena Mukhina is a very vivid example.
The coolest moves are when they change bars, it's a pitty they do it so little nowadays. I think that's what so many people miss from the time the bars were closer.
It seems that not only the difficulties became higher through the years, but also the quality of execution were more and more polished.
In the 60, 70, 80's the girls were doing art, it is SO beautiful to see them, their movements were like poetry. after that it all became the same boring thing, every girl doing the same things, it became a cold sport. I wish to know why. Why that girls were so more creative, surprisingly and visually insteresting to watch than today? What happened?
Tbh I think that the 90s and 2000s were also very creative, there were lots of new and very hard skills added in. Stuff I never see today. But the bars i see today (2010s) is all boring. Everyone has the same connections and skills. It's like watching the same routine over and over again, just with a different leotard and different girl.
Michele Lemes I mean sometimes there are new exciting skills but lots of them have been banned for difficulty and safety reason todsy
Because a lot of those old moves were "too dangerous" so they had to ban them for the "safety" of the girls. Girls (and boys) getting into gymnastics know what they're getting into once they reach a certain level (that is, anything beyond challenging friends to how many cartwheels they can do in a row!)...to not expect newer, more difficult moves has dulled the sport - in ALL events, not just the uneven bars. It sucks. You can walk down the street and get hit by a car for Pete's sake...OBVIOUSLY gymnastics is a dangerous sport...but that's why these girls (and guys) have top level coaches, not just the local gym owner down the street who can't even do a handstand themselves!
Michele Lemes coaches coach what they know
I see.
I love the 70's gymnastics
Me too! The Korbut flip was the best. That little pixie was awesome!
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Your videos are awesome and your English is perfectly understandable. I don't mind some minor mistakes like using 'usual' instead of 'common'.
Just out of curiosity... What is your mother tongue?
portuguese
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The arched giants in the 80s make me scared lol. They could break their back that way!
videoclip That's why they banned a lot of the routines from back then. They were more exciting to watch but it did a lot of permanent damage to the gymnasts and their organs
@@Dani_1012 That's not true. Only difficult skills like korbut flip was banned. Otherwise their routines didn't damage their organs at all. They're safer than most bar skills nowadays
I think it was more piked than arched.
1:58-2:03 rip my hips
And comes the boring 2013-2016 timeline where lots of gymnasts doing similar connections with transitions elements...
yes, they all have very similar routines by now. But I tried to show something nice instead of all routines that looks the same, I chose show the lots of different skills we can find now o/. Thank you for watching
Artistics Gymnastics Don't worry I was not complaining, I love your videos, and I love this series, I can't wait for the vault and beam. Thank yiu so much, love ya!
GeniusDolphin no you were right. it did get boring more recently. that's because a lot of the older routines have been banned due to extreme difficulty and safety reasons. I work at a gymnastics facility and they have banned a LOT of routines on all events. it would be neat though to bring back some of the old flips
Pink Diamonds that's very interesting
Uneven bar routines are like art. So beautiful!
70's & 80's were badass.
Of course all gymnasts are tho😉
I totally agree Cindy!! That's when I did gymnastics!!
Some people find old routines better because they are exciting without thinking about the safety of the gymnasts? tsk tsk. Easy for them to say that because they are not the ones sacrificing their body just to perform tricks. They are gymnasts not circus performer.
Gracie C. Personally I feel like a lot of the "nowadays it's not that cool" comments might be because ther is a lot more emphasis (and time!) spent on doing and holding a perfect handstand.
It seems to be becoming a "caramel" argument this of the difference between a gymnast and a circus performer. In that case we should just quit giving the medals to gymnasts and start to hand them over to circus performers.
Wow what the hell do you have against circus performers??
I am and the old ones are better
@@irondasgr at least circus performers are fun to watch and have mostly original routines and don't do the same boring bland moves that everybody's seen a million times before.
It looks like the 70s and 80s were game changer decades
5:05 my eyes can not even comprehend what she did but it looks amazing.
That was Kim Gwang-Suk, from North Korea, at the 1991 Worlds, held in my hometown of Indianapolis, Indiana :)
Glitch in the matrix for sure
I so much greatly agree with the people here who say the old bar routines were much much more interesting, varied, and diverse than present bar routines.
In the last many years, every single women's bar routines look the same. Dull cookie cutter bar routines, even if they are doing hard things. No diversity. No individuality. All the moves look alike. Nothing new.
And present bar routines go so fast you cant even see anything. Give me the old bar routines any day. Olga Korbut was so terrific. She cared about being and looking different and unique. Her Korbut move on bars was so beautiful. I loved old bars. And the bars were closer together which made for some very interesting moves between high and low bars. I love the whipping between bars. And you could see each move so vividly in the old bar routines. The skills were different, beautiful and clealy demarcated so you could really see the body in the motions and technique extremely well. I miss those gymnasts and those routines so so much.
@Isabella Mann I dont think anyone is questioning how hard the current gymnast routines are, if anything I think there is more pressure for perfection now than back then. What I think a lot of people have noticed is the seeming lack of individuality. It does seem like a lot of the same things done by different people with little individual personality...i believe that's why that college gymnasts floor routine went viral. Not just because it was a 10 but because she added flavour and artistry that is so rare to see these days
Wow we should go back to the 70’s! Those skills looked so cool
These days, the bars are so far apart and the lower bar is hardly utilized at all. It might as well just be a high bar routine.
I love that hip swingy thing they used to do! Seems really painful though ahah
It only hurt a lot if you didn’t adjust the bars properly for your height. At training we would sometimes stuff foam in the leg holes of our leotards to cushion it. I like how gymnasts in the 70s and 80s used the low bar more often. Today’s routines hardly touch it at all. Might as well just let the women compete on High Bar.
@@Cleow33 right? The low bar is just there for decoration to be honest. It's rarely used.
@@irrelevance3859 very rarely do we see a gymnast that goes back and forth between the high and low bar now. Most gymnast just go to the low bar to fulfill the requirement smh. Honestly why suni is one of my favorite bar specialist now. Her routine is always a joy to watch
You could tell in the 80’s that the bars spacege was really small because when there doing giants on the high bar you could notice they had to put there legs into a relaxed pike position so that they could get around the bars. Cool video!
Thank you for including Nastia in some of the skills. She is my favorite gymnast and truly an artist-especially on the bars.
Yesss! Queen nastia! She slays bars and beam ❤
With the bar routines we have now. It's harder for people to stick them. It just consists of boring spinning at the top of the front bar. I'd rather have some things from the past come back because it was much more interesting to watch and better, harder looking stunts in them.
But, they did the right thing changing. It was very dangerous. They were sacrificing their bodies.....
Triple Sommersault and Strong. I hadn't seen those before. Wow.
I think the Korbut flip (mulkina) should come back but it can transition into a toe shoot now the bars are further apart instead of the hip casts from bars close together. However my favorite decade is the 1990’s and 2000’s. Not only it’s a bit safer but it was balanced with creativity.
Wow the 70s were amazing!! I wish they would bring that stuff back!
@Rinnie Modern day gymnastics is actually more dangerous than the 70s. Higher cause of accident. None of those skills in the 70s/80s cause long term damage unless poorly executed as with anything
So cool, whoever invented gymnastic, who ever did the first cartwheel and somersault.
the routines from the 50s and 60s were interesting to watch. Today is just like the mens high bar.
2:23 I could watch it in a loop all day.
The 60’s routines looked dope 😮 wow
70's and 80's were the best!
Just a note: The double front tuck 1/2 was actually introduced in the late 80's and was way more prevalent in the 90's than the 00's. In fact, it really began to disappear after the 97-2000 COP devalued it from an E to a D.
Love these types of videos! Great work! Keep it up!🐤
thank you so much
Отличный ролик! Спасибо!❤
i like d 70s and 80s routine
PLEASE, could someone explain me the difference between ONE, HEALY and LING? they're so alike
Seru aku senang liat senam ini......👍
I think they should do a retro event where the bars are closer and the competitors cannot use grips. Let’s see how many can easily do their routines
70's and 80's competition was ruthless and more creative. They didn't give af.
sis did her research! nice job on the video
this is really interesting, lets all watch and be part of the next 60 years of this amazing evolution! 🙂
I know that you can't cover all the skills, but I was waiting for the Comanenci in the 70's part. Other than that I Must congratulate you for the amazing video ;)
yes, but actually the comaneci is in this video, in the 70's. Thank you for watching
Artistics Gymnastics I can see her fluidity and perfection also if I was blind! Great video! Thanks from a former artistc gymnast!
The Counter Kim is still my favourite release move. And also old combinations like Li Li's 1991 WC In-bar to German Giant to Tkatchev
am i the only one that thinks that gymnasts were way better back then than they are now ?
Mee too!!!
Letrusik Trash, they got injured and they couldn’t do spins on the air
Letrusik Uhmmmm, no you’re not 😂
Define better
I enjoyed watching this video it was fun to see how far gymnastics has come! Your really good at editing!
I offer no disrespect to these amazing athletes when I agree with people that the current judging/ focus of pirouettes and handstands is is less visually compelling than the older routines. Could someone possibly provide a link to where "belly-beats" were banned for being harmful to female bodies? All the pages I've found mention nothing of the sort, instead claiming that these skills basically just became impossible when they moved the bars farther apart to focus on big scoring HB skills (like the men's). Thanks!
5:05 I've watched it a thousand times and still can't understand how she does it... It's insane!
I think the 60's bars routines were better than now.
All I thought, it was Mustafina the queen
Rafael Kawamura nadia Comaneci :o for me
Elena Mukhina for me . on 1977 it was clear that it was a 10 but for some reason they gave her 9.85 lol bs
This video taught me a lot. I’d been wondering why bar wasn’t as interesting as I remember it being. Thanks.
Fantastic and instructive work! Thank you! I rewinded several times to check a few things because it's so informative.
I feel like I was focusing more on how tv changed throughout the years... but good video!
All flips and turns look the same to me. Until I saw this video. I’ve never thought this sport is so complicated. Great video!
I love all of your videos, but this is by far my favorite one ! : ) Thank you so much for all your hard work and explaining all the moves. I really appreciate it. : )
I didn't find any mistakes with your English. Great job, I know how hard it is picking up a new language.
Another great video - thanks. Just wondering if you (or anyone else) knows if any other gymnast performed the Korbut and Mukhina? I don't think I've ever seen any other gymnast do either (I know its a banned skill now).
. No one is criticizing modern day gymnasts when they talk about routines from the 70's or 80's. The gymnasts now are doing skills ten times harder then before and each decade the difficulty got tougher and tougher and the girls had to get stronger and stronger. The difference is, the rules gave them more leeway back then for more individual creativity and variety. The code of points was different. They didn't stop doing flying hip circles because people hurt themselves, it's because the advanced gymnasts started doing giant swings on the high bar and the more that became the norm, the more they started making that the standard and they pushed the bars apart. It is SO much harder now. In my best years back then, I could never do what the girls do now. I have mad respect for today's gymnasts. I just wish the rules would give them more options for creativity.
Wow, what a detailed and interesting montage. Thank you 🙂
The gymnastics was so much better performed back then
I didn’t see a whole lot of transitions when I watched some the other day. It was all giants with pirouettes. The bare minimum of bar to bar contact and that’s a shame. It’s more beautiful when both bars are utilized in a graceful, powerful manner
Yeah, today it is too similar to men's routine at the bar. Not interesting, not exciting, booooring.
@@cecilianovais212 2 years ago I made this comment and its still not changed. You are exactly right. Boring. Maybe 1 day it will be exciting again.
I love the old school artistry on the bars!
Soo Amazing,!!
Meus Deus! Essas meninas parecem bonecas. É espetacular ver a ginástica olímpica. Admiro muito, quem é atleta deste esporte.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Fascinating
You should put a note that many of these skills are super dangerous and also illegal in competition. Some have become paralyzed because of the moves where you stand on the upper bar.
The 70’s and 80’s were the best times
Absolutely loved the 70s
Great video 👍 really shows the evolution of the bars 💚
What an amazing sport. They're so agile!
Rip uneven bars since 1985. :(
Very cool
the transition must have been hard for gymnasts in the 80s, the style has completely changed when they widened the 2 bars
Great video I loved seeing everyone progress💜💜
Gymnastics looks a lot more fun on the bars. And graceful. lol😂😂😂💕💕💕
Super fun videos
So interesting thank you
This was so so cool to see!!!
Love love this video love your videos
I absolutely love your videos, you have done amazing presentations of the different events. Thanks so much! Also, I've looked around but I can't see the name of the music in the video anywhere, and I wanted to know what music was playing starting in the 1980's segment 😀 If you happen to see this comment, or anyone else knows...
I would be at the Olympics by know if I was in the 50s 😂 2:00 Gave ME A HEART ATTACK!!!
You can really see how much gymnastics has changed through the years
3:37 and the mount after that. Those two look awesome.
Buen resumen!!
Hi, question.
Is the uneven bar the one that has gone through the most changes.
Thanks!
I watched till the end and subbed :)
thank you very much
Artistics Gymnastics same
They sure have come along way.
Crazy!
This was a great video!
Thank you so much for watching
Why did the release move where you drop down to the lower bar in a straddled position (facing the bar) practically disappear? Was the start value too low?
It made me happy to see Nastia and Shawn🥰
This is actually really cool.
LOVE THIS😍❤👍
Good video!
Man I think as soon as they pushed those bars apart, they made a mistake. I love 60s and 70s bars. They had the most individuality, the most art in artistic gymnastics, and the most exquisite routines. But I don't mind that some prefer the difficulty and pizaz of modern bars
Omg!! The things they did on the bars in the 70's scared me!!!
I could've won an olympic medal in 1950 :)