Remove This Watch From Your AliExpress Shopping Basket!
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
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I have this watch. The tachymeter dial is useless since the chrono seconds hand is on the 6 subdial. The split pins are wedge pins. This means that the successful way to remove these pins is not by tapping them out in the reverse direction of insertion, but instead to tap on the split side to to expose the rounded end and then use pliers to pull the pins through and out.
I subsequently purchased the Illimite homage to the Bulova. The Illimite homage is a very nice watch which functions like the Bulova.
The 6 o'clock chrono hand means the tachymetere scale is useless and only decorative.
I was just going to write that ! Beat me to it !
@@brianmsahin I had another watch like that, so immediately spotted it!
Buy the watch, ditch the bracelet, put on a NATO. Saying that, you should not have to butcher a watch to adjust something on it.
Clock is working again!
Have you tried hammering the pins out in the opposite direction of the arrows? I've had a couple of Chinese watch bracelets with the same issue and discovered that either the pins were in upside down or the arrows were pointing the wrong way! 🤷🏻♂️
To Cadisen: please fix the chrono hand to work with the tachymeter. Does no one any good in that subdial. The nonfunctional tachymeter was the dealbreaker for me
I hope for a v2
I've had similar issues with DLC coated bracelets (or whatever coating they are using...PVD?)
my guess is that the bracelets come assembled and then go through the DLC/PVD process which gets into the openings for the split pins and shrinks them just enough to make it a nightmare to get the pins out. that's my theory anyway.
Nice watch though....I would have preferred the VK63 movement, though.
Quartz, chronograph and dodgy bracelet. Nothing there to like.
I won't get mad over a bracelet from Ali (if only integrated, but there are also solutions there now), as i tend to take most off, wearing my watches on other straps. So, if the watch's price is right, many other options... even another bracelet!
Was considering this Cadisen when it launched. The price looked good.
I had concerns about the Movement (hoping for a VK63), Butterfly clasp & 19mm lug width.
Any one of these these things on its own was not a deal-breaker, but combined they stopped me buying.
You have proved me right, showing yet another problem.
Use a hammer to reshape the links (cover them in plastic before doing so). Soak the links in WD40. Then hammer out the pin. Also worth investing in a better hammer from Burgeon, that basic hammer is not substantial enough. 👍🏻
My guess on that bracelet is they did the black plating after drilling the hoses for the pins and by doing so put a few microns of black inside the pin channels making it fit way too tight.
I’ve had the exact same experience with my 2 recent purchases from Cadisen. The pins have destroyed all my tools and I did eventually refund both watches. One of them I got my money back the second one is still waiting for a response.. these are 2 completely different watches from Cadisen that I got, not with that black coating. No more Cadisen for me 😡
A colleague and I brought the same bracelet for our Casio Duros from Ali Express. His pins were a nightmare mine were super smooth to remove. You just can't foresee what you'll end up with.
The pins are probably stuck due to being coated with the black coating. Always have this issue with cheap gold watches.
They may have used a locking compound like nutlock or bolt lock - pin lock . Maybe put the bracelet into hot water to soften the chemical. You can’t heat a bracelet directly because of discolour to the metal and then a coated one is even worse.
I do have the white one. Put on a 19mm blue leather strap. Very cool! But the bezel don't need to be a Tachymeter! At ALL! 😅😅😅 Anyway, Greetings from Brazil!
What a shame. Good to see the wall clock running again. Forget those people who complain about the time jumping and don’t understand how a video is made. Thanks for the heads up! Maybe this was hopefully a bad one and the rest are good?🤷🏻♂️
Good unboxing/first look, bad QC experience.
Thanks for sharing and better luck with the next watches.
I was considering this one but that 19mm lug width makes it a chore to source a replacement strap. Thanks for the heads-up review.
I bought a different Cadisen watch (their Grand Seiko White Birch homage) and the bracelet on that was the worst of any watch I've owned. That said, the head of the watch is great and is actually something of a strap monster!!
the bracelet is fine but it's just the wrong movement for a chrono with a tachymeter. The big seconds hand should be the chrono one, and needs more than 60 increments
I bought a Berny am135a-m that did the same thing. Broke 2 bracelet tools.
It's a nice looking watch. As Shri_v stated the tachymeter scale is only decorative. They should have a black Nato option and ditch the bad quality bracelet. Thanks Gary. Forewarned is forearmed.
What kills this watch is the VD53 movement, which makes the Tachymeter bezel useless. You can technically call the Seiko/TMI VD5x series "quartz chronograph" movements, but the fact that all the stopwatch fuctions are on the subdials, make them virtually useless.
No issues with the uncoated one, other than the second hand mixup which makes the tachymeter scale kind of silly. If you want something Bulova Lunar Pilot-ish, it's not a bad item.
i would LOVE to have one of the Bulova watches but I tried one on at a local jeweler and its HUUUUGE!!!! too big for me to wear comfortably. I can get away with a 42mm sometimes, depending on the rest of the dimensions but....anything bigger than a 40 is usually too big.....
Ahhh you got me there, I was totally expecting you to bag this one out! 😄
Do the manufacturers use loctite on the pins sometimes? I had the same issue on a similar bracelet recently and bent a couple of drivers before they would budge, I noticed the new pins went in smooth as silk so I figured there might have been some kind of adhesive applied ?
Finally! Mondaine! Yeah.
Hi Gary, thanks for the video. The way the link has bent makes it look like you may have been trying to push the pin out the wrong side (the opposite way from how the arrow points). Just saying! 😮
I would throw a black rubber strap on it and call it a day, for 60$ but I would hope the braclet would actually be able to sized right dam shame because it looks like an amazing watch for the price 👍
Not to worry, Gary - throw on a rubber mate!
I definitely think Cadisen needs to rethink the bracelet and clasps on their watches. Spend more to put out a better overall product. There seems to be this race to the bottom in terms of price and I for one am not a fan. Who asked them to sell this watch for $60? They could have given us a nicer bracelet and clasp and sold this watch for $85. It wouldn’t have mattered to their core audience who’s after certain designs. SMH
Thanks for update Gary a lot of the Bracelets that come on the Ali watches are basically landfill I’ve only got the one cadisen watch the 62mas homage that came on a nice tropic style strap
I think the quality is usually good, this type of issue is rare.
I wouldn't get it mainly because of the movement. Having a tachymeter scale and no central chrono hand, doesn't seem right.
I bought 2, love 'em. EPIC WIN. I replace most ali bracelets.
If you will place the band on a steel block with holes in it for the pin to pass into once it starts out of the link you want have this problem
i bought the black as well. mine is pretty perfect...sorry you got a bad one. sometimes its a hit or miss gamble on ali. especially on those kind of bracelets!
Have you tried taking out the pin from the other side of the same link, and trying to work the link back & forth a lot? That might loosen things up.
I had that same issue with a pagani off ali
I know Lunar Pilot is different price level, but it's not unobtainium either. Why bother with copycat?
WD40, wait 10 min, whack it again.
I wasn't going to buy, but I definitely am going to do so now! Love a challenge :D
I got the white one. Didn't have to size the bracelet at all. It's quite short and just fits my wrist...
I see it's trying to look like a Lunar Pilot, aside from the pushers.
I know you probably followed the arrow correctly but is it possible they oriented them incorrectly and you were trying to push the fat end in? I always look just to be sure.
Also how do you review two hundred watches a year and not have a nicer tool to remove split pins lmao?
most bracelets have screws now and these tools always get the job done when the split pins have the correct fit.
I just received a Steeldive watch yesterday and there were no arrows on the links. Not helping was the fact that the pins seemed different than normal, the fat end was split. Maybe I never noticed before.
Nothing beats the hammer for split pins. Except a Cadisen, apparently.
You are tearing me apart, Lisa!
I’ve purchased two different dial versions of this Cadisen watch and haven’t had any of these issues with mine, although I did take the bracelet off of the black pvd one, and put it on a black and gray premium NATO strap, and it’s great! I agree with you though on many points here. I generally put most of my Cadisen watches onto leather or NATOs anyway. Either way I still really enjoy wearing this model, it’s just what you make of it, as long as you know what you’re getting into. Which is why we all appreciate your reviews on these watches. Thanks again for this helpful, and fun video on the Cadisen “Lunar Pilot” homage
So if it is cheap in the sale pop it off the bracelet, throw it on a nato, job done :)
19mm lugs and I understand your point but if I had said that in the review I would be getting hammered by people I think. I also don't think it's ok.
I think the arrow goes other Direktion to push the pin. If i see it correct.
Never mind the bracelet the VD53 is absolutely useless, the small second sub dial is too small to use and the tachymeter is almost impossible to use. MY pet hate is the VD53 and similar movements.😡🤬
It looks like you were trying to push the pins out the wrong side, check the direction of the arrows!!
Got it for £35, bracelet was a bit tricky but didn't have the problems you had. Not great overall but for £35 not the end of the world.
I detest hollow links. They are terrible to size or resize the bracelet. Best to just swap for a decent leather strap.
PVD Coating intrusion !
Should have been processed on a matching size wire .
All the links strung on wire .
This may have been coated the bracelet assembled ?
Shame that 😠
A lot of heavy breathing and sighing in this vid. 🤣
Well, the only thing you can do now is to get rid of the bracelet and to replace it with a nice strap.
I've heard that WD40 will help loosen up stuck pins.
Cadisen is the only watch I've owed were the sapphire crystal smashed on me. After one day!
I lost interest as soon as I saw the clasp
Lo9ks like a Bulova moon watch
you need bigger hammer
Dip the bracelet in very hot water??
get a ROPE!!!
Ppl. Please tell me why would u waste money on so many cheap watches ? Why not save , and buy one good quality, good brand watch ?
Well , new guy. He reviews watches at two sites usually at the affordable range for a living to advise us on what we might want to buy.
Wrong tool. Certain level of clumsiness?
Junk. Bin it
I guess if the watch head is good it might still be worth a punt, but with no option to get an exactly matching bracelet i’m sure quite a few might steer clear now if they think the watch head QC might have gone down the toilet as well 🥹
stop buying any ali express watch